IBD/TIPP: Obama +2, under 50%

…don’t worry about gettin’ your hopes up, only to have them dashed in the early, eye-peepin’ hours of 5 November…keep prayin’, workin’ and movin’ ’til it’s all over…then, not when the polsters and pundits say so, it’ll be over.

…it’s up to this: people have a choice…it’s the safe choice over the hopeful choice…the wise choice over the emotional choice…the thought-out choice over the feel-good choice…the former bein’ John McCain, the latter Mr. Obama.

…and I’d bet that’s how folks are seein’ it: do I wanna take a risk on Obama…especially with what’s come out over just the last few days….

…the “top-level” of the middle class is slipping to level of countin’ pocket change…key sectors of the energy industry are not only off the table, but in the crosshairs…arrogance has abounded in the face of a good-humored, self-effacing appearance on a tired old prehistoric comedy show…and the more we come to know of Mr. Obama, the less he looks like someone we can trust.

…we’ll see….

…for my part, Mr. Obama looks like the choice an airheaded high-school cheerleader’d make…’cause he’s so groovy…and she don’t know why…Washington needs adult supervision, and a rock star isn’t the guy to do it…Clinton shoulda taught us that….

…but, then, Texas has early voting, and I’ve already made my stand. Y’all get out and vote and get out the vote, and don’t hope for the best…work for he best.

See ya Wednesday….

Puritan1648 on November 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I’ve often argued that Americans are the only people ever to have fought a war over the issue of slavery.

…hmmm…Spartacus and his folks were people…and the guys in Haiti were people, too….

…England actually did more to end not only the institution of slavery, but the trans-Atlantic trade in slaves than America ever did…and almost 30 years before America did…and without all the fuss and bother….

…in fact, the efforts of England were pointed to as an example of how to end slavery while compensating the owners of slaves, who often had more money tied up in slaves than in land, livestock, buildings and implements combined.

…but, then, many abolitionists — north and south — were fairly unstable, emotional people (as were many pro-slavery fire-eaters), and it’s the American way to go to the brink…and then trip over it. Our ancestors had a path blazed before them, but had to have it their own bloody way.

…then, to add insult to injury, many of the same folks who wanted to wound slavery and slaveholders to death made sure — with willing and welcome help from moronic former slaveholders — that as screwed as blacks were as slaves, they would be doubly screwed, and for a hundred years, by the way the nation was reconstructed after the War you mention.

…we may have fought a war to end slavery, but nothing about the issue stands up to much scrutiny as far as nobility is concerned…on either side of the issue….

…one thing that makes my head spin is that some Europeans think that Michael Moore is a redneck.

Fortunata on November 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

…heavens above! Michael Moore? Europeans are wickedly stupid as to the definition of the word, then….

…then again, Europe is dying…dementia is a part of the process….

Puritan1648 on November 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM

He probably meant a CIVIL war, Puritan.

Janos Hunyadi on November 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM

…it’s just that “fighting to free the slaves” is an old chesnut used to show the United States as a fundamentally noble place….

…using that justification, it’s saying that half of the nation geographically, and two thirds of it demographically, could be called “noble”, while the other guys livin’ here were rat bastards….

…it doesn’t hold up.

…slavery could have been ended in a much more adult manner, as in Britain…but the folks at the time were too head-up to do the right thing…each side was too head-up to win the argument…pure and simple….

…it screwed the black man…it screwed the 600K of fatalities, most of whom didn’t even have a dog in the fight….

…and we’ve been gettin’ lied to about it ever since.

…try to have a reasoned discussion about race in this country. The well’s poisoned, as we both know…and we can thank the Lloyd Garrisons, Wendell Phillips’, Frederick Douglass’ and Harriet Beecher Bloody-Handed Stowes as much as we can the Quitmans, Yanceys, Hammond and Calhoun.

…and their ideological idiot children are with us today…you yourself refer to them here:

The larger point was that of ‘white guilt’ as the basis of a current voting decision, and unfortunately there are more than a few White Folks who will vote for BHO to redeem themselves….

…I need redeeming, but no man walking the earth today can do it…and it doesn’t have anything to do with a slavery I would never support, or an anti-slavery effort I’d p*ss on as readily….

I’m not guilty, and I’d assume all posting her today/tonight are as guiltless, of suporting or benefitting from slavery…the profits to be had from that institution have long ago been gathered up and spent…and, as innocent as we are of the institution, the great-grandchildren of those held as slaves understand that…and, if not, need to crack a book and learn….

America is a noble place…and our foul history of slavery, on all sides, has nothing to do with it….

Puritan1648 on November 2, 2008 at 11:05 PM