Zogby: McCain up 1
posted at 12:18 am on November 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Right now, it’s only on Drudge, and … well, it’s Zogby. Still, it’s going in the direction we all believed the race was heading:
ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error… McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…
This may get pretty interesting. We’ll watch the other tracking polls, which have bounced all over the place the last few days. By Monday, we’ll get a better sense … or we’ll all be drinking heavily.
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JustTruth101 on November 1, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Reuters headline?
Obama has 5-point lead over McCain
They mention the poll, their name is on the poll, yet they dont mention the 48-47 McCain 1 point lead.
Very dishonest article. I think we will see a lot of headlines like that. Little change, move along, Obama in a landslide.
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 1:28 AM
They did say
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 1:29 AM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html
please go read this article. am I crazy, or did Jake Tapper just out himself as a libertarian/conservative?
funky chicken on November 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM
I think it’s good that the Obamabots think they have it in the bag…my feeling is that people who support McCain want a traditional country and will stand in line for hours to quietly case their vote even if they do think the country is going to hell because they will not stand idly by and let it happen. We are winning on Tuesday, I am confident of it.
JustTruth101 on November 1, 2008 at 1:31 AM
Whatever. Thanks, Drudge, for at least giving me something to drink to tonight.
Now please get out and vote, dammit.
Sugar Land on November 1, 2008 at 1:32 AM
carbon_footprint on November 1, 2008 at 1:34 AM
It was ME who used the phrase, “some strange sudden collapse”, with the accent on ’some strange’
My point was that there is no evidence that this story caused undecideds to jump to Gore–although that was clearly the purpose, as the media had the story for months
Those who are still undecided only a few days before an election are likely to not vote; others are looking for a ‘last straw’ or ‘final push’ to get them to do what they are leaning towards doing.
These people often vote AGAINST a candidate rather than for the other one, so some latent Gore voters may have used this story to finally slink off the fence and actually vote for AlGore–but no one knows how many and no study I know of claims that there were very many of them
The media used that story and improperly-weighted polls to create the mirage of a late swing to Gore, with the intention of creating more votes for Gore. Studies have shown that some people will vote for the candidate who they think will win,
After an election, the percentage of people who say they voted for the winner in a Prez election is 8 – 10 points higher than the actual total
Janos Hunyadi on November 1, 2008 at 1:35 AM
I hope people are just going to get fed up with all the handouts:
Is that how that are going to use the $700 Billion to keep the economy going?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gWsnTUA4iJxSIxPGz5mi1h9LcNowD9452H2G0
pedestrian on November 1, 2008 at 1:35 AM
Its Friday night!…stay positive,..but have fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUrZltfJv5c&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/best-campaign-song-obama-no-merci.html
Bluestate_Blues on November 1, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Wow!
I don’t know what it says about Tapper’s actual politics, but Tapper certainly sounds like someone who appreciates the American spirit and sees BHO as denigrating it.
progressoverpeace on November 1, 2008 at 1:36 AM
The October suprise is going to be Hillary switching her endorsement to McCain this weekend.
Chuckle….
Elizabetty on November 1, 2008 at 1:37 AM
I’m in MO. Folks casting absentee ballots early waited for 2 hours to cast ballots today, and let me tell you, there were LOTS of seniors who brought their lawn chairs with them to wait in line. We will not sit idly by and let our country go to hell and turn into a socialist nation.
My dentist is from Russia, we had a great conversation today. She thinks Obama is Hitler. Immigrants appreciate this country deeply because they are not spoiled by it like the Obamabots.
JustTruth101 on November 1, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Jesus Cristo!
I come in from work and the thread says some fella in an A-4 Skyhawk just blew up the asteroid that was fixin to hit Omaha.
Fly, Johnny, fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Ok.. your mission/script till election day, should you choose it:
“So, who you voting for?”
Response Obama: “Yea, tell me about it. Everyone is voting Obama… It’s pretty clear who’s going to win by now, they’re projecting a landslide. I’d be surprised if he didn’t win by at least 15 points. McCain has no shot at the White House.”
Response McCain: “Vote”
El_Terrible on November 1, 2008 at 1:40 AM
You can all drink heartily if Obama loses and it certainly is good news and a cause to celebrate.
The bad news is once you sober up you realize McCain won.
You’re pretty much screwed either way.
Goodale on November 1, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Man if that’s true I am going to be PISSED. I pay my bills and live within my means, and now I’m getting nothing. Ok, calm down, I have my dignity and self-respect…ok, crisis over. I gotta sign off now, night all.
JustTruth101 on November 1, 2008 at 1:42 AM
Elizabetty on November 1, 2008 at 1:37 AM
I wouldn’t be shocked at all if McCain asked Hillary to be part of his administration.
I was told to pass this on,..soooooo…: o )
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEyVglw1uyk
christene on November 1, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Big difference between ’screwed’ and ’screwed-blued-and-tattooed’.
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Is this DRywall’s cousin? The name’s the same as a Canuck socialist.
either orr on November 1, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Hicmentum
Surprised I’m the first to recognize it.
CK MacLeod on November 1, 2008 at 1:49 AM
3-year-old Sarah Palin is incredible, btw
ubetcha!
(beats goshdarn heck out of “Yes we can,” doggone it)
CK MacLeod on November 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM
My understanding is that the McCain lead is from the Friday portion of a 3-day tracking poll. If that’s the case, then Obama’s informercial was a flop and may have depressed or turned off voters.
CanadianGuy on November 1, 2008 at 1:54 AM
I know everyones been waiting for me to weigh in on the polls. Heres my theory. I believe Obama must have a double digit lead, 12 points or more to feel safe. In any poll we know there is a 3 to 4 point margin of error. And by now we all should know about the Bradley effect, another 5 points. But here are two things I havent heard anyone else talking about. These last two are linked really. Every poll, I mean every poll is using a heavy, heavy democrat tilt. The smallest is usually six percent more dems than repubs. They say this is the result of voter registration. Ok fine, but in 06 the difference was merely a point in actual turnout. I dont believe anyone thinks there will be a spread as big as 6 points. Lets not forget the long dem primary when so many repubs switched parties to prolong the dem primary(operation chaos anyone?) It is impossible, impossible to guage this number, how many people switched and intend to vote that way. This is why I believe the internal polls of the mccain campaign above everyone else. I believe their numbers are showing them that they are right there. Obama never could really close the deal on hillary…I see no reason to think he can close on mccain.
Lets reveiw: a 10 point lead for obama lets say. With the margin of error, that is really a 7 point lead. Let’s be conservative(no pun intended) with the Bradley effect and say its only 3 instead of 5. You are now down to 4. With the heavily skewed polls indicating a 6 to 10 point swing between dems and repubs, going on past election trends, the spread usually is even or a 1 percent lead for the dems. Again being generous, we’ll give them a 3 point spread. What you have left of that 10 point lead is 1 point, in either direction.
With this model, which I believe to be reasonable and logical, you have a dead heat. You have a race that is fluid and certainly not over. I believe this is why the polls have been all over the place. That and quite a few are being used to attempt to supress gop turnout…….
ritethinker on November 1, 2008 at 1:57 AM
Still not looking that good for McCain but it will at least be fun watching the Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself)sweat and cry like big babies. I can hear it now-”the Republicans are trying to steal another one”.
Goodale on November 1, 2008 at 1:57 AM
You spoke of seniors in MO. How do you think they’re trending? I’ve been hearing that Obama’s running ads scaring seniors into believing that McCain’s going to privatize their social security just in time for the market to tank. Clearly, that’s horsesh*t on several levels, not the least of which is that he couldn’t possibliy move anything like that through a Democratic Congress. That said, supposedly young people are being to edge away from Obama while elders are starting to edge toward him.
I figured the oldsters would have seen enought snake oil salesman never to bother going into that tent. I’ve worried about young people, too many guilt-ridden middle-agers, and (I can’t believe it) Hispanics.
Somebody give me an anecdotal story that I can go to sleep on.
BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2008 at 2:02 AM
If Sarah had an aunt that was an illegal alien welfare queen we would never, ever hear the end of it. In no time the moonbats would be saying it was really her mother.
Two more days for this country to come to its senses.
pedestrian on November 1, 2008 at 2:03 AM
A long, long, time ago, in a galaxy far, far, away….
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 2:05 AM
buckeye sam, go read the jake tapper piece I linked above. it will help you sleep….
funky chicken on November 1, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Buckeye Sam, here’s one.
My immediate clan (including in-laws) numbers 19 registered voters (including 3 first-timers this election). Normally, there are 5 votes for Dems. Only one this time (a devout Kool-Aid drinker).
Also note, my ex-brother-in-law’s family are congenital Democrats. Two of ‘em are voting GOP for the first time in their lives (both are in their 50s).
That’s 15 votes in Pa. and three in Va. for McPalin.
Sleep well, Buckeye Sam.
either orr on November 1, 2008 at 2:07 AM
That is absolutely adorable. They need to show this in the battle-states. Then we’ll win for sure.
iamse7en on November 1, 2008 at 2:08 AM
That means the two prior ways it was 50-42 Obama.
49×3=147-47=100/2= 50
44×3=132-48=84/2= 42
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 2:08 AM
buckeye…..
Try any of these…
Lexington Green, Ft McHenry, Ft Sumter, The Corn Field at Antitam, Little Round Top, Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Midway, Bastogne, Chosin Resevoir, Phu-Bai, Tal Afar
Quit? Surrender? We ain’t got a chance?
NUTZ!
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 2:09 AM
http://bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1128958&format=comments#CommentsArea
buckeye, that article may warm your heart. or at least the first 5 comments after the article may help.
I’m off to bed myself!
funky chicken on November 1, 2008 at 2:17 AM
innominatus/Mark1971
Actually, not to be too nerdy, but the Dolittle Raid perhaps DID have strategic impact. The shocking event apparently helped tip the balance in the stand-off between Combined Fleet Commander Yamamoto and the Navy command over the Midway operation. The high command was humiliated by the raid (the “imperial presence” had been endangered), and Yamamoto was able to cite the event as support for his contention that the American carriers must be lured into a “decisive battle” so they could finally be destroyed.
That, along with a resignation threat (Yamamoto was at that point a super-star, having led 6 months of nearly non-stop victories for Japan at sea), did the trick, and Yamamoto finally had his Midway operation approved. The rest, as they say, is …..
(just a palate cleanser for history buffs – we now return you to our regularly scheduled menu of intense and fruitless electoral speculation)
IceCold on November 1, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Thanks all. For my part, two parents, a brother, and I are four for the good guys in Ohio. My brother’s wife is suspect because I think she was a Hillary backer. She’s a devout Catholic, so I can’t see how she’d vote for Obama. That said, my brother makes some dough so they’ll be looking at increased taxes out the ying yang. So I’ll call her a soft McCain. They have a college-age daughter who should be a quiet McCain. So that’s six in Ohio.
In VA, I have a sister who’s deep red, and happily she has three voting-age kids (teacher, college guy, and Naval Academy midshipman) all deep red–and throroughly schooled by their uncle. So that’s four in VA.
Other family lives in CA and IL, so they probably don’t count–and, in some cases, I don’t want to know.
OT: I think goptrust.com starts its Jeremiah Wright blitz Saturday or Sunday for football games in battleground states. This could be pretty entertaining. I think the group raised $6 million or $7 million and are raring to go.
BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2008 at 2:24 AM
Nixon wins Illinois by +5!
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Well, Grasshopper, you are that much closer to taking the marble from my hand.
platypus on November 1, 2008 at 2:32 AM
Just got this email tonight. HE’S STILL BEGGING FOR MONEY!!! This guy’s incompetence must be of epic proportions if he still pleading for more, after already spending $600 million on his campaign.
El_Terrible on November 1, 2008 at 2:54 AM
I will laugh for at least a week when this happens.
Red Cloud on November 1, 2008 at 3:02 AM
Don’t drink so much before the election that you can’t vote!
njcommuter on November 1, 2008 at 3:54 AM
1 day Zogby says “dont beleive the hype
the next he has Obama up 8 points
jp on November 1, 2008 at 3:59 AM
Does it have to be either/or?
Hollowpoint on November 1, 2008 at 4:37 AM
I’m one of those quiet ones. Nobody knows how I’m voting.
Silence is Golden.
misslizzi on November 1, 2008 at 5:20 AM
Obama’s “Joe the Plumber”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8
hipgecko on November 1, 2008 at 5:38 AM
LEAKED (ALLEGED) INTERNAL POLLS SHOW MCCAIN AHEAD IN MICHIGAN, NEW JERSEY, PENNSYLVANIA, AND WITHIN 1 POINT IN CALIFORNIA
Okay, I’m very doubtful. But the audio is only 5-minutes long and may be worth listening to.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 5:48 AM
I don’t trust these polls. But I do enjoy imagining the look on Obama’s face…
Jim Treacher on November 1, 2008 at 5:54 AM
Yep on both.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 6:06 AM
Goshdarnit, everyone’s got to read this article.
It’s scary totalitarianism, or the threat of.
h/t DRJ at Patterico’s
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 6:18 AM
Even teh gays are getting McPalin FEVAH. Some of us anyways.
SouthernGent on November 1, 2008 at 6:42 AM
All class Rev Wright… I mean rightwinged. You hope for racism to be the deciding factor…
You really never will change
Bradky on November 1, 2008 at 6:42 AM
The Bradley Effect is not necessarily racism. Many good people dont want to be though of as being a racist, so they fib.
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 6:59 AM
Example, if someone asked me who I would vote for, and if I was not totally sure about who they are, or why they are asking, I may say I dont know. If I count on Liberals to support a business, I am not going to make them mad by saying McCain/Palin is the winning combo.
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 7:01 AM
No one wants to back a loser. Even Zogby it would seem.
Tommy_G on November 1, 2008 at 7:10 AM
Understand that but ol Rightwinged has a history of aggrievance in regards to blacks.
No surprise he is praying for some hate.
Bradky on November 1, 2008 at 7:19 AM
I won’t answer any of those polls. Just invites others.
Bradky on November 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM
“Nothing is inevitable until it happens.” A. J. P. Taylor
snaggletoothie on November 1, 2008 at 7:30 AM
Gallap has Obama up another 2 points.
Check this out:
Just imagine what’ll happen if Obama loses!
Tony737 on November 1, 2008 at 7:35 AM
Entelechy on November 1, 2008 at 7:43 AM
And the sound of that frying pan clanging upside Barry’s noggin.
profitsbeard on November 1, 2008 at 7:47 AM
And so it begins. Here is the top story on yahoo, which the PUMAs warned would happen:
AP poll shows Obama backers gleeful, McCain’s glum (AP)
“That smiling guy walking down the street? Odds are he’s a Barack Obama backer. The grouchy looking one? Don’t ask, and don’t necessarily count on him to vote next week, either.”
http://tinyurl.com/6j27m5
Michael in MI on November 1, 2008 at 8:21 AM
When I say the PUMAs warned about this, I am referring to the psyops campaign to depress the GOP into thinking there is no point in voting, to just give up, because Obama is going to win in a landslide.
It’s going to make for some really depressed and angry Obama supporters come Tuesday night when they realize the mass media has been lying to them all this time about the polls and McCain ends up pulling out the victory.
Michael in MI on November 1, 2008 at 8:22 AM
I’m sure this has been asked and answered but… is McCains performance trending the market?
Dash on November 1, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Sure, Michael.
Gallup has another 2-point break in Obama’s favor in the traditional daily tracking poll, the third Obama gain in as many days.
I posted some allegedly encouraging internal GOP polls above so who knows?
But predicting victory on the basis of 1 Zogby 1-day snapshot poll showing a 1-point McCain lead in the face of every other poll showing Obama ahead since God knows when is… optimistic.
GOTV!
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:29 AM
48-47 from Fri? IRONY – Lie about campaign financing – Buy infomercial – Tank in polls.
marklmail on November 1, 2008 at 8:31 AM
Hell hath no fury like a snubbed militant black woman.
csdeven on November 1, 2008 at 8:36 AM
Pennsylvania trend
Rasmussen 10/30 – 10/30 500 LV 4.5 51 47 Obama +4
RCP Average 10/23 – 10/31 – – 51.8 43.3 Obama +8.5
WoosterOh on November 1, 2008 at 8:37 AM
keebs, i have almost the identical story. was getting a courtesy ride from the dealership to work, and the senior citizen driver and i started chatting…and i asked him who he was favoring (very uncharacteristic of me)…
and he waffled…unsure…has concerns about both…
well, i jumped in with both feet. “i’m not unsure…i’m voting for mccain. obama’s scary”.
the guy then went on to share incredibly traditional conservative views and relayed to me that he’s already voted.
i asked him about palin, and he said he wasn’t sure about her…i said the media’s done all they can to make her look dumb. he said, “yeah, you can’t accomplish what she’s accomplished at her age without having something upstairs”.
i then went into bashing biden, and we were done.
toenail on November 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM
This is the cutest thing I have ever seen.
scrubjay on November 1, 2008 at 8:43 AM
This election reminds me a lot of the 1948 election, “Dewey Defeats Truman.” Again we have a candidate(s) who represent more “the people next door” vs. a politician seen as condescending and enigmatic. We have a VERY unpopular Congress, just like the Republican Congress in ‘48. In ‘48, I think it was “Times” polled 50 pollsters right before the election. Every single one of them called the election for Dewey.
Truman caused a miracle once, why not McCain?
Yossarian on November 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM
I just saw that video, scrubjay. That was awesome!
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM
I certainly hope he does.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:48 AM
I am not very confident in the Zogby Poll But I hope its right. Obama and a Dem majority would be the best thing for the GOP over the long term..
Dennis D on November 1, 2008 at 8:50 AM
No, it wouldn’t, Dennis D, that’s absolutely stupid. Obama is a “power symbol creating” megalomaniac with suppress the media and thug-politic tendencies. He must be stopped.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Yeah maybe, but I would rather be screwed by a 1 incher than a 13 incher.
redrock on November 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Half the population would disagree.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM
But predicting victory on the basis of 1 Zogby 1-day snapshot poll showing a 1-point McCain lead in the face of every other poll showing Obama ahead since God knows when is… optimistic.
GOTV!
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 8:29 AM
I felt this way prior to that 1-day Zogby thing. I don’t believe the polls are anywhere near accurate. I am just going on my instincts that the American public has not lost its collective fuhkeen minds the last 4 years and is not ready to accept socialism/borderline communism/marxism.
I agree completely though that it will come down to GOTV. But that’s why the AP is putting out stories like that: to depress the GOTV efforts. He did it in the Primaries to depress the Hillary voters and is doing it now. He has done it his entire political career.
But again, I just have to believe that the American public has not lost their fuhkeen minds and is not ready for socialism/communism/marxism.
If I am wrong, we have much bigger problems in this nation than just our politicians being socialists… we now apparently would have the majority of the nation which believes in socialism/communism/marxism. That would be scary.
Michael in MI on November 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Dude? No professional organization ever mentions single day polling… ever. Especially when the one-day sample constitutes only 300 people.
Typhonsentra on November 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM
I know you have to believe that. But your beliefs do not make up the sum total of reality. I guess we’ll find out on Tuesday.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 9:04 AM
A letter to the Editor published in today’s Pittsburgh Tribune-Review recounts how the Obama campaign is sending blacks into white Pittsburgh suburbs. They are going door-to-door asking people if they are racist if they express doubts about an Obama presidency.
I think there just might be something to this idea of a Bradley effect.
jay12 on November 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM
I’ve listened to this audio about a dozen times. There are several aspects that suggest that at least the caller is legit, if not the poll itself. Most notable are the numbers given for Pennsylvania, both for the Dems and overall. It seems to me that a hoaxer would have invented more believable numbers. I did some editing to eliminate some of the extraneous commentary, reducing the length to 2 1/2 minutes, and reduced the file size further by reducing the bit rate. The result is here, in case anyone wants to download it and pass it around.
RedWinged Blackbird on November 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM
The bigger the lie…..
And I do not think it wise to propagate rumors. The guy sounded like he was full of $hit.
csdeven on November 1, 2008 at 9:14 AM
Zogby … this is the same guy who in 2004 predicted on his final poll that Kerry would carry (no pun intended) over 300 EVs.
Yet this is the only poll showing McCain ahead in any shape or form. Rejoice wingnuts!
Monkei on November 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Nobody is predicting victory based on a +1 Zogby poll. However, it does illustrated what a lot of people have been saying for a while: this election is very close and we can win it.
Blake on November 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Much less than half. Obama will lose by a substantial margin.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM
There is still time for you to come to your senses and support McCain. Obama is going to lose. You don’t wnat to be on that ship when it goes down, do you?
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM
Drudge has another link up about Obama taking one of his daughters trick-or-treating and getting testy with the media. So they celebrate Halloween? Isn’t this the same family who don’t buy their kids Christmas presents? But they celebrate Halloween…oh, right, free handouts.
Kevin71 on November 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM
Zogby ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Zogby.
Ha.
Next.
Dave Rywall on November 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM
They, (pollsters) have to believe they have some basis for their big Obama leads…personally I think they’re using it as a cover up because they know this is a rigged election. If the months long polls reflect this big lead, no one should question Obama winning when he shouldn’t.
People seem to like Rasmussen, but I get a serious hink when he speaks. I think he’s cookin’ the books on this one.
anniekc on November 1, 2008 at 9:22 AM
LOL…
MSNBC this morning…..Obama returning to Iowa for a ‘nostalgic visit’.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww……(pay no attention to the crowd around that woman)
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Go Johnny Go!
I love you Sarah Palin!
mindhacker on November 1, 2008 at 9:41 AM
I see this election as something like this: Obama has invited the entire country over to a giant kegger where he’s given everyone roofie-laced beers. Some of us immediately recognized what he was doing, so, without even taking a sip, we poured our beers into that potted plant sitting in the corner. Others, after taking a sip or two and finding out that their beer tasted kind of funky, poured their drinks into that poor potted plants. Now, as the kegger is beginning to wind down, many people who took some serious swigs of Obama’s brew are managing to shake off their beer goggles just in time before he can get them into the bedroom and they’re hightailing it away from him as fast as they can. Many drank too deep and they’re passed out.
What we have to do is to do our best to tell those few still remaining who are deciding whether to drink or not to not drink Obama’s brew and to try to wake up as many of those who’ve passed out as possible before it’s too late.
Matt Helm on November 1, 2008 at 9:51 AM
That is so Pravdaesque. MSNBC most definitely is angling for “most favored network” in Obama’s socialist “paradise”.
Matt Helm on November 1, 2008 at 9:54 AM
I’ve been feeling this lately, too. Is everybody doing this? I’m so naive, I don’t know why they would, if they may turn out to be so wrong.
Moxie on November 1, 2008 at 9:54 AM
73% of their stories on McCain/Palin were negative
29% negative for Obama/Biden
That’s as clear as it gets.
Moxie on November 1, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Not so much cooking the books as manipulating the sampling demographics. The polling organizations – at least the serious ones – are in business to make money and if they are proven wrong consistently, their reputations suffer. Then again, there are internal polls and public polls.
The internals are where the real money is and it’s entirely conceivable that these characters are providing accurate internals to the campaigns and less-than-accurate data for public consumption for a very hefty sum of money.
For example, the Obama campaign, swimming in cash, could very easily pay off pollsters to make it appear that Obama is far ahead of McCain in order to depress Republican turnout.
It’s a dangerous game of chicken because at some point they are going to collide with the brick wall of the ultimate poll – election day.
The question, therefore, is when one of them will flinch and be the first to accurately reflect in the public polls what is being reported in the internal polls.
It would appear that Zogby – who has a pro-Democrat bias – was the first to flinch.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 9:58 AM
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