Erica Jong: Obama defeat will bring civil war
posted at 10:30 am on November 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Normally, I’d ignore the rantings of the fringe, but Erica Jong sees herself as a replacement for Susan Sontag … which still makes her fringe, but noteworthy. In an interview with Italian magazine Corriere della Sera, the Fear of Flying author makes the jump to public moonbat by predicting an armed struggle if Barack Obama loses the presidential election. Why? Because someone has to target the “Republican Mafia”, dagnabbit:
Basically, Jong says her fear that Obama might lose the election has developed into an “obsession. A paralyzing terror. An anxious fever that keeps you awake at night.” She also says that her friends Jane Fonda and Naomi Wolf are extremely worried that Obama will be sabotaged by Republican dirty tricks, and that if an Obama loss indeed comes to pass, the result will be a second American Civil War. …
“The record shows that voting machines in America are rigged.”
“My friends Ken Follett and Susan Cheever are extremely worried. Naomi Wolf calls me every day. Yesterday, Jane Fonda sent me an email to tell me that she cried all night and can’t cure her ailing back for all the stress that has reduces her to a bundle of nerves. … My back is also suffering from spasms, so much so that I had to see an acupuncturist and get prescriptions for Valium.”
And the #1 quote from Erica Jong? The troop drawdown in Iraq has a secret purpose:
“If Obama loses it will spark the second American Civil War. Blood will run in the streets, believe me. And it’s not a coincidence that President Bush recalled soldiers from Iraq for Dick Cheney to lead against American citizens in the streets.”
I’d bold the more lunatic portions, but who can make that distinction? Jong makes Truthers look almost sane. (Almost.)
While I’m sure most of us fret constantly about the collective psychoses of Jane Fonda and Naomi Wolf, it’s difficult to see who Jong wants to impress with these statements. If Jong is so obsessed, why isn’t she talking about this in America? Why talk to the Italian magazine instead of getting involved to stop the Second Civil War? I guess Jong’s commitment to democracy and her country consists of popping a few happy pills and seeing an acupuncturist. What a patriot!
It could be worse, I guess. Fonda could get Jong to travel to Pakistan in order to get photo ops of them operating Taliban anti-aircraft guns.
Speaking of which, by the way: of whom does Jong’s rhetoric remind readers? “Blood will run in the streets.” Sounds like an echo of 1960s radical terrorists like, oh, the Weather Underground.
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And the first white flag on the battlefield will be Jong’s.
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 10:34 AM
“The record shows that voting machines in America are rigged.”
So if BO wins it doesn’t count right?
America1st on November 1, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Twilight Zone stuff
Wade on November 1, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Well Erica Jong “Ms” Fear of Flying does she have a new book coming out or something she is trying to hump? Why would I care what Erica Jong thinks again? Jong? Aging bitterly, this is why they make a hormone replacement patch. No, oh no, not Palin, anything but a women who can run a government effectively, and look good while she is doing it:)
Dr Evil on November 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Sometimes there’s just not enough medication….
jojostan on November 1, 2008 at 10:36 AM
“America, vote for BHO, or we’ll terrorize your streets!”
jgapinoy on November 1, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Her statements are no less than the rejection of the republic itself.
exception on November 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Jane Fonda’s back hurts “Voodoo” does work, where can I find one of these, Jane Fonda voodoo dolls?
Dr Evil on November 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM
What is it with these ugly liberal women?
grapeknutz on November 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Heh. I guess she got disillusioned by us rednecks in flyover country and went to talk to people who might actually pay attention. Snort.
P.S. Watching GameDay on ESPN, expecting a respite from politics. No such luck; Luke Russert is on, albeit briefly. Sigh.
grasshopper68 on November 1, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I think her reasoning behind what would cause a civil war is mistaken. I think the outcome she predicts is entirely possible.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 10:38 AM
We already have a civil war.
The good news is, our opponents are aging baby boom losers like Erica Jong.
The demographics alone favor us to win. The enemy attrition rate is high.
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Jane’s in pain? Cry me a river.
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Please. Vader has cloned stormtroopers.
Spirit of 1776 on November 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Well hey…”real” america looks so far down on “fake” america i doubt they’d care all that much. Here in NY the more we hear that real america rhetoric the more we resent it. I hear someone say that theyre voting for McCain because they’re a real american…that theres a fake america…i know they’re talking about me. they’re talking about my whole family…my aunts and uncles and parents who made it out of the ghettos of the south bronx and spanish harlem to raise me and my brother and my cousins in suburbs that offered us a much better life. Politics is one thing…but keep pushing that real america crap and sooner or later the fake america’s gonna realize we really, deep down, want nothing to do with your crap anymore. the economist had a good phrase for it…”southern friend moralism”. It doesnt fly here, and thats not because we’re not american…
ernesto on November 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Someone should remind Erica who has the guns in this country, and it isn’t the liberal Democrats. I guess she expects them to slap us to death.
GarandFan on November 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Good lord! I’m not being funny — I saw that picture and thought it was a man in drag.
I had to read Jong and Atwood and all the bitter harpies of that generation in High School. They *owe* me.
S. Weasel on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM
A little proactive spinning of the inevitable riots?
Disturb the Universe on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM
This sounds like the flip side of neo-nazi crackpots calling for a race war.
I’ll be glad when McCain wins and we can ignore these barking moon bats.
Right_of_Attila on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM
An incidental reason for Obama to lose is seeming more and more important: to prove that other that fantasists like Jong the American people are not insane.
exception on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Fear of flopping?
This assumes that Obama supporters are all law breakers. What a self-loathing, negative view to have of your own party.
Are they prepping the talking points here? The voting machines that worked in ‘06 will suddenly fail in ‘08?
Mojave Mark on November 1, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Susan Sontag couldn’t have been all that bad. She wrote some pretty decent literary criticism. And she was married to that intellectual stud Philip Rieff, whom every conservative should read.
I think Sontag just came unhinged in middle age. Deep down, she had something going on.
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 10:42 AM
I’m surprised I haven’t seen this at the Huffington Post. Probably too crazy to be posted there.
JammieWearingFool on November 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Do they mean blood will run on the streets because disappointed Obama supporters will break a few windows and torch some cars?
Or do they mean blood will run on the streets because the left will be forced to resort to violence to achieve their aims? I imagine Ayers and Dorn are digging their old combat fatigues out of the closet right now.
You all should check out Dennis Prager’s interview with Naomi Wolf from a week or two ago, in which she repeated the above themes. Prager was kind, respectful and patient with her, and allowed her to come across as an absolute raving lunatic. Podcasts and transcripts here.
The left is making troubling inroads into mainstream American politics. If McCain can pull this off the reaction of the left may be so extreme that they’re pushed back to the fringes where they belong. One more reason, as if you needed one, to get out and vote on Tuesday and drag others with you.
I do sympathise with the crazies on one point though: I’m having a lot of sleepless nights worrying about an Obama victory. And I’m English…
EnglishMike on November 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Hey Erica – the 70’s called, they want you back…I didn’t know she was still alive but I certainly know she is irrelevant.
HawaiiLwyr on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM
NEWS FLASH:
Left wingers are very bad losers and very bad winners.
But we already knew that.
RobCon on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I live in Northern Ohio, and if McCain wins, I’m not going into work the next morning. The Dems have poisoned the well so much by saying “the only way Obama can lose, given the poll numbers, is if McCain steals the election OR Americans are a bunch of racists” that it’s really scaring me. I think there is a serious risk of race riots.
Outlander on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Not sure about a voodoo doll but you could substitute these.
Oldnuke on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I’m assuming that she’s volunteering to be the new John Brown. What town will play the role of Harper’s Ferry?
CFL on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM
It’s a terrible thing to say about the “Hello! Dolly!” star,
but Jong’s photo looks like Carol Channing post-road-kill.
Lockstein13 on November 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM
What’re you gonna do about it, ernesto? Real Americans outnumber the faux Americans by a substantial margin. Plus, we own all the firearms.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM
What about if he wins?
DwnSouthJukin on November 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM
EnglishMike on November 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Great post; I worry for your country, too.
Disturb the Universe on November 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Get back on your meds lady.
Maxx on November 1, 2008 at 10:46 AM
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Good – I hope it hurts bad.
RobCon on November 1, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Old war injury I think from sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in the battle of Hanoi.
But…she said 35 years latter that she was kinda sorta sorry that she got caught sighting in US planes for the commies.
Poor Hanoi Jane.
Not Over.
1GooDDaDDy on November 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Jane Fonda sent me an email to tell me that she cried all night and can’t cure her ailing back for all the stress that has reduces her to a bundle of nerves.
Gee Jane, try rope torture like McCain did when you went over to Vietnam to mock him.
RobCon on November 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM
+1
Disturb the Universe on November 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Oh, there will be riots when McCain wins. Count on it.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Erica, pop some pills and go see your plastic surgeon. Time for your botox shots. YIKES!
RMR on November 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Remember the charge once again: the Palin and McCain supporters are the anti-intellectuals who reject scholarship.
Unlike the finely-tuned arguments and empirically-based claims of Jong and Wolf, et al.
These are your folks now Kathleen Parker. Good luck.
SteveMG on November 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM
It’s a good thing nobody cares what Erica Jong thinks.
SoulGlo on November 1, 2008 at 10:48 AM
He won’t.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Did Susan Estrich really say if Obama loses, it will be because we are a racist country?
petefrt on November 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Need to send Miss Jong the MP3……….
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 10:50 AM
I say bring on the civil war. Liberals are going to regret their stance on the second amendment about 30 seconds into the first battle though.
muyoso on November 1, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Sleep tight, old chap. John McCain will become our next president.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Warmonger.
Saltysam on November 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM
No, no. The strategy will be one that was briefly executed, but aborted in 2004. “Polls showed him winning, but THE MAN moved in on election day and fixed the numbers.”
John Edwards — the man who was destined to be Obama’s running mate but magically disappeared overnight for reasons still unknown to the MSM — yes, that John Edwards was pimping the poll-discrepancy theory in the wee hours of the morning on the day after the election in 2004 where he and Kerry got their asses handed to them.
Just watch. Pollsters, who are a pretty sleazy lot to begin with, have laid the foundation for any acts of hooliganism, any vandalism by unruly youths, we might witness after the election.
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I assume this troll will disappear after That One loses, and he is no longer paid from the Obama
credit card theft ringcampaign.When I lived in NYC, the liberal insanity and ignorant provincialism was rampant. I see it is still around.
Right_of_Attila on November 1, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Probably. It is the last card they have left to play from the hand they were dealt. Trouble is, J-Mac has a Full House.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Me too. Whether he wins or loses. Yes, I’m serious; and no, I’m not a racist. And you can lay the blame for it at the feet of Obama, whose use of the race card has incited it.
IrishEi on November 1, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Who?
Metro on November 1, 2008 at 10:52 AM
The sad part is that this is starting to sound like a good idea.
RedWinged Blackbird on November 1, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Nah. Even us Southerners don’t want that. We’ll do just about anything to keep it from happening. We just aren’t afraid of it. That’s the part the Yankees don’t get.
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Oh my, she hasn’t aged well.
obladioblada on November 1, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I didn’t even know she was still alive. Or is she?
Noelie on November 1, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I’m already in trouble with Erica because I have an Asian woman. It’s because they are better than bitter trash like you Erica!!!! Get over it.
lexhamfox on November 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Maybe she’ll be one of the first casualites. The gene pool needs a palate cleanser.
SouthernGent on November 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Hmmmmmmm……
I wonder if the riots will start in Philadelphia instead. Rasmussen has it down to a 4 point race in PA as of this morning.
Pianobuff on November 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I don’t have much confidence in G.W. Bush, but the good news is, it’s the Governors who have the power to bring in the National Guard to quell the hooligans.
Think it through. The Democrat governers will be too scared to quell the unruly youths so they’ll let their cities burn. The Republican governers will bring out the crap cannons and establish law and order.
If I were you, I’d take refuge in a red state. If there is tomfoolery, it’ll be the blue states that crumble.
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM
And they said Bush and Cheney were bad?
Good grief.
drjohn on November 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Embittered liberal women never do.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Well, I for one will have fun fighting the army of aging hippies, and pot smoking moveon hipsters.
Should take about a day to sort out.
Then, a la Ayers, we round them up, force them into camps, where they have to actually perform work for money, until they understand the basic tenets of capitalism.
Then we let them go, to a separate country, that has a 40 foot tall fence between us and them, and see how they do without working people to support them. They can have the coasts (but we reserve California, the entire state, as our own, on account of it being pretty) and we get to have the military. We get to keep the original copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Ind., and they get to keep the art museums and coffee houses, most of the colleges, and all of the natural food supermarkets. Oh yeah, we get all of the guns too.
Who’s with me?
hippie_chucker on November 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Wait, so it’s Dick Cheney who will fire the first shot if Obama loses? It won’t be crazed Obamamaniacs starting riots by torching cars and stealing TVs from stores? (In LA, that’s how they express their displeasure and bring about social change, you see.)
I kinda thought it might be Chris Matthews who will start the Second Civil War on Obama’s behalf. Either that, or he’ll just sit behind his desk at MSNBC crying uncontrollably until they drag him away in a straightjacket.
aero on November 1, 2008 at 10:59 AM
We are in this together, Mike. Thanks for your thoughts.
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RJGatorEsq. on November 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM
That broad looks like someone set her face on fire and beat it out with a shovel.
CurtZHP on November 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM
As long as they burn Los Angeles again, who cares? If they progress into the hinterland then the nature of the battle will change significantly.
rplat on November 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Interestingly, Jong is a dead ringer for the notorious English homosexual actor and writer Quentin Crisp.
EnglishMike on November 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM
er……ah……..TX, LA, AL, MS, FL, SC, NC, VA…..that is a LOT of coast to hand over. ;)
Limerick on November 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM
The riots will begin simultaneously – when Obama gives his concession speech and is then whisked away by Secret Service as the savages set fire to the new Barackopolis in Grant Park.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Jeez… someone buy this 70ish woman trying to look 50ish (and failing) some new batteries…
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM
What Secret Service? I belive, at that point, he no longer warrants such expenditures of taxpayer money.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 1, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Neither are we man, neither are we. You’re the guys running whole presidential campaigns based on the “real america” rhetoric…so one can’t get on the Northeast’s case all THAT much about stoking provincialism and disunity. We’ve got the richest ports and the best weed…take your obesity and farm subsidies.
ernesto on November 1, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Not so fast bucko… My wife and I are in LA (well actually she left a little while ago on the McCain cavalry bus out to NV for two days to canvass/GOTV. You’d really be surprised at how many people around us are voting for McCain. Don’t write us off just yet.
Pianobuff on November 1, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Good point. Could be a Halloween prank.
EnglishMike on November 1, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Good heavens, man. You are right! OT, but I have a book that Crisp wrote called Chog – illustrated by Edmund Gorey and signed by the author himself.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 11:03 AM
A civil war?
No, Erica, darling, it won’t be civil. It isn’t now.
Josiah on November 1, 2008 at 11:03 AM
That’s soooo 60s. I believe the way it is said today is “Neither are we dude, neither are we.”
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on November 1, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Careful with the assumptions there – they have the criminals on their side. We may have most of the registered guns, but their supporters have most of the unregistered ones, I’m guessing.
aero on November 1, 2008 at 11:04 AM
If this was to ever happen, there is no way that the blue states could survive without the red states
ConservativePartyNow on November 1, 2008 at 11:05 AM
LOL. You have New England, Illinois (Chicago, actually), California, Oregon and Washington. We have the rest – including the farm subsidized bread basket that feeds you. We also have most of the military bases – including the missile silos and fleet headquarters in Norfolk.
Keep smoking that weed, ernie.
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Wouldn’t it be funny as hell if Obama and Michelle abscond with the millions in campaign cash, move to some backward island with their inner circle and form some kind of Jonestown-like cult?
Some will be left behind.
I will volunteer to be a deprogrammer. “He was not the messiah, dude. Think about it. He had to buy all that crap he put around him on stage. Those were props, dude. He wasn’t an actual deity. He took the money, and he’s gone. It’s time to move on, dude. You can still live your life.”
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Her mentality justifies everything Obamas minions are doing to bum rush the ballot box.
I’ve spoken to a number of friends who use the 2000 to justify any action by the Democrats and their allies to gain votes.
It’s remarkable to see the psycological damage Gores loss did to the Dems.
No wonder Bush has been the target of unprecedented vitriol over the last 8 years…9/11 not withstanding.
mylegsareswollen on November 1, 2008 at 11:08 AM
I guess I’ll be clinging to my guns more tightly come Tuesday.
RedWinged Blackbird on November 1, 2008 at 11:08 AM
The left predicting the south will rise again.
I haven’t quite seen everything yet, but we’re getting pretty close now.
TexasDan on November 1, 2008 at 11:09 AM
It depends who gains control of the nuclear forces. That’s entirely federal. Not one nuclear weapon is under the direct command of a state.
With a dictator in the White House, that could prove problematic.
Christoph on November 1, 2008 at 11:09 AM
TexasDan on November 1, 2008 at 11:09 AM
ernesto, the east coast is the financial capital of the world. In case you hadn’t noticed, that’s not too cool anymore.
But good news, the west coast is a major exporter of porn, so lots of democrats will totally fit in there.
jeff_from_mpls on November 1, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Yeah, forgot the Outer Banks are nice. Have to annex them asap.
On second thought-
Maybe we just set up miniguns on the Mississippi, its a pretty good natural barrier :)
hippie_chucker on November 1, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Why not? We’re the ones who pay out more in taxes than we receive already…at least in NY anyway. If we’re already subsidizing other states as it is…because you guys have guns? or farms? new yorks got plenty of farms and would have more if they didnt compete with conagra giants in the midwest
ernesto on November 1, 2008 at 11:10 AM
The only problem is that if there is a second civil war I reckon it will be a fairly short one. Especialy when you consider that only one side is heavily armed and has a will to fight.
Personally I just hope all the high profile left wing celebritards and moonbats keep their promise and move to France when Obama loses.
Dreadnought223 on November 1, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I’m prepared for the coming civil war because I’m bitterly clinging to my Bible gun.
That’s right: I cut out the middle-man and made a gun that shoots Bibles. You’re jealous.
Lehosh on November 1, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Ew. Fugly.
Red Cloud on November 1, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Fixed.
HerrMorgenholz on November 1, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Nothing like what will happen if Obama wins very narrowly making it clear he only won due to the ACORN fraud effect. That civil war will be short and brutal.
bill30097 on November 1, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Sarkosy’s in France now. The new destination of choice for the left should be Cuba.
TexasDan on November 1, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I’ve heard this line of bullshit before…it sounds familiar. OMG…ALPHIE! Is that you, ma petite latrine watcher?
ManlyRash on November 1, 2008 at 11:13 AM
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