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Video: Obama on judges who “only believe in the strict letter of the Constitution”

posted at 8:12 pm on October 30, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Nothing really exciting here — every liberal in America believes in judge-crafted unenumerated rights (unless it’s a conservative judge finding a right to freedom of contract) — but with the “redistribution of wealth” audio zeroing in on Obama’s feelings about activism and the Warren Court, the RNC’s sending it around. You’ll find him here once again paying tribute to the D.C. Second Amendment ruling, which must be his most shameless flip-flop of the entire campaign. I’m more interested, though, in the example he chooses to illustrate the right of privacy: “The right to marry who you please.” The One supports civil unions but opposes gay marriage, and predictably has gotten little grief about it from the nutroots stalwarts on his side who loathe Palin for opposing it too. Williams could have pinned him by asking why the right to marry “who you please” should carry some sort of implicit gender distinction in his mind, and whether the arbitrariness of his answer isn’t the whole problem with letting unelected judges weave unwritten rights. What might have been.

Update: The follow-up question that wasn’t: “If a Supreme Court candidate believed in a federal constitutional right to gay marriage, would that disqualify them in your eyes?” No good answer for The One to that one, given the constituencies he’s trying to straddle.


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I really hope this guy loses

deedtrader on October 30, 2008 at 8:16 PM

God help us.
The PUMAs are our hope. Hopefully they are big enough to come out for McCain.

jencab on October 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM

He taught for 10 years Con Law? Really? Where?

jawbone on October 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Therein lies the answer,from Hopey!

canopfor on October 30, 2008 at 8:24 PM

No good answer for The One to that one, given the constituencies he’s trying to straddle.

“Look, uhhhh, I’m not … uhh, you know, I’m not about putting … I don’t believe in a uhh ‘litmus test’ for judges. I don’t … uhh, think that it’s … uhh appropriate or, or wise, for a President to say, you know, ‘Because you believe this specific thing, uhhh, I won’t nominate you.’”

apollyonbob on October 30, 2008 at 8:24 PM

“So, so, uhh I guess the answer of uhh ‘Would I nominate this person to the Supreme Court’ is … is above my pay grade.”

apollyonbob on October 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM

You’ll find him here once again paying tribute to the D.C. Second Amendment ruling, which must be his most shameless flip-flop of the entire campaign.

Allah

I find this odd, since there can’t possibly be a NRA member in the country who’s voting for this douchebag. Why would he waste such a gold plated pander-flop on voters who will still despise him no matter what he says?

And yet, we all watched him do it. A rare fail for the Obamians.

Jaibones on October 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Did he ” If Sen. McCain ends up being the nominee…”?

What is talking about?
Is he saying that if elected President he’s going to nominate John McCain for the Supreme Court?

terryannonline on October 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Penumbrae and Lacunae and Obama, oh my!
The Repubs in Congress must take an accounting of what they did to deviate from conservative fiscal policies that may be part of the reason that a card carrying socialist is within spitting distance of the WH.
Of course this does not take the major part of the blame from the LSMSM(libsocialistmainstream media) for utter dereliction of duty. If a corporation had acted (or gov’t officials) so irresponsibly as the media hacks have in this election the same media would be calling for them to be strung up or imprisoned. I thought media bias was somewhat bad but one could penetrate it with some sense most of the time, but not this year, the LSD (LiberalSocialDisease) is just too great. We have to rely upon the common sense of the voters when they go into the booth and face this stark choice, they will be repelled by the cipher socialist and vote for McCain/Palin (and also that the base is enthused, this is not just a vote against the Obamanation but a strong vote in favor of this honorable duo of mavericks).

eaglewingz08 on October 30, 2008 at 8:28 PM

He obfuscates as cunningly as Clinton.

profitsbeard on October 30, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Any judge will mirror Barack Obama,or else,
according to the ‘Great Judicial Scrutenizer
der Hopey’!!!

Redo America,in the likeness of Barack Obama,1776/2008!

canopfor on October 30, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Please – no mental images of Obama straddling constituencies.

eeyore on October 30, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Perhaps the greatest indicator to me and many others would have been if asked about : Kelo v. City of New London

theblacksheepwasright on October 30, 2008 at 8:33 PM

He obfuscates as cunningly as Clinton.

profitsbeard on October 30, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Big words. I’m pretty sure Clinton used a cigar.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 8:33 PM

He thinks he “knows or has interacted with most of” the potential nominees to the Supreme Court from a conservative President, because he lectured a class at Chicago.

News flash, douchie: Nope. You don’t know any of them. You are not intellectually capable of talking to them, as the Roberts confirmation clearly demonstrated.

Peanut League – Major League.

Jaibones on October 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM

OT:
Two arrested in KY Obama effigy case.
Still no arrests in the Palin effigy case. After all, she is a Republican.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM

He taught for 10 years Con Law? Really? Where?

jawbone on October 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Most (not all), but most law profs. couldn’t make it in real life.
Both my kids have their law degrees from tier one law schools, and most of the teachers were intelligent, knew law, but couldn’t function outside of the classroom. Some were brilliant in and out of the class room, way brilliant, but most–non functional human beings.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM

So, riddle me this, commenters –

Is it a testament to the brilliant campaign run by the Obammunists, that this discussion of Supreme Court Leftists has simply never happened in any high profile setting, or

is it a testament to the idiocy of the McCain campaign?

Jaibones on October 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Obama on judges who only believe in the strict letter of the consititution……

Dear Leader Douchebag doesn’t believe that the constitution is worthy of being interpretted. He would rather throw it out and put in his own set of “rights and rules”.

I could use one of his rules….shut Bill O’Reilly up. I’m tired of hearing this talking tit.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Not to be a wet blanket here but, aside from his statement that the 2nd amendment could “argued” not to be an individual right (it clearly is), Obama is correct in his larger assertion that there are rights not enumerated in the Constitution.

The Constitution, itself, makes that clear in the 9th amendment which Alexander Hamilton and others fought hard to include:

“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

In other words: We have rights that, while they may not be specifically enumerated by the previous 8 amendments, are presumed to exist in a free society.

Tuning Spork on October 30, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Most (not all), but most law profs. couldn’t make it in real life.
Both my kids have their law degrees from tier one law schools, and most of the teachers were intelligent, knew law, but couldn’t function outside of the classroom. Some were brilliant in and out of the class room, way brilliant, but most–non functional human beings.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Der Führer was never a PROFESSOR, regardless of what he and his media whores like to claim. He was a teaching ass’t/lecturer.

As for law prof’s, nutty as jaybirds. My communist brother-in-law was a child prodigy, and was the youngest person ever to grad. from law school. He taught for a few years, but also barely functions in life. He is in love with Castro and Che and all things Cuban–he visits often, and has infected a generation of students, (not to mention my sister.) He sat on the dais the other day in Denver behind the ONE. He is an enemy of the US, and mad as a hatter.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM

More triple talk from the vocal gymnast known as Duh 1.

Hog Wild on October 30, 2008 at 8:43 PM

OT:
Two arrested in KY Obama effigy case.
Still no arrests in the Palin effigy case. After all, she is a Republican.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Also, the perpetrators in the Palin effigy case are gay.

Disturb the Universe on October 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Still no arrests in the Palin effigy case. After all, she is a Republican.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Look, this is a very clear case of private vs. public property. Yes, both are equally distasteful, but one was a bad decoration while the other was vandalism. They are not being arrested for a hate crime.
You are starting to whine like a democrat.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Hey, how about a constitutional ammendment that bans all Lawyers from public office?????

PaCadle on October 30, 2008 at 8:45 PM

I have the feeling that Obama thinks that lawyers and judges can and should control every area of my life. This little interview presages a nightmare of an attack on freedom. That coupled with the growing trend of officials to enforce only the laws they want to enforce and only on the occasions they choose makes rule by Democrats look scary indeed

snaggletoothie on October 30, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Notice how he slips in the “right to marry whom you please” as a matter of privacy. Putting aside the fact that marriage is a public, and not private, statement of one’s relationship to another, this is a warm-up to Barry pushing for gay marriage as yet another progeny of Roe v. Wade.

As Damian Lewis would say, “everything’s connected.”

ktrush on October 30, 2008 at 8:47 PM

You are starting to whine like a democrat.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Whoa. Fuc off! Asshole.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:47 PM

As for law prof’s, nutty as jaybirds. My communist brother-in-law was a child prodigy, and was the youngest person ever to grad. from law school. He taught for a few years, but also barely functions in life. He is in love with Castro and Che and all things Cuban–he visits often, and has infected a generation of students, (not to mention my sister.) He sat on the dais the other day in Denver behind the ONE. He is an enemy of the US, and mad as a hatter.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM

I guess it makes sense that the Marxists have gravitated to the practice of law: it produces nothing, it gives them power, and the results are based on being convincing rather than being correct.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Whoa. Fuc off! Asshole.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Yeah, well, its late hear on the East Coast, and I get more belligerent the tireder I get.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Okay, so if I have a hanging effigy of Barack Obama that is considered a hate crime, but if it is Sarah Palin, who cares? Did I get that right?

If it’s on MY PROPERTY, isn’t that a who cares because he is a public citizen and I am practicing my “free speech”. I know I would be forever labled a racist, which is fine, been hearing that since the immigration bill, but WTF?

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Yeah, well, its late hear on the East Coast, and I get more belligerent the tireder I get.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Get yourself a dictionary.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Yeah, well, its late hear on the East Coast, and I get more belligerent the tireder I get.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Totally misdirected anger on your part and my part.
Bygones.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Get yourself a dictionary.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:51 PM

What? Firefox says “tireder” is a word.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:55 PM

I guess it makes sense that the Marxists have gravitated to the practice of law: it produces nothing, it gives them power, and the results are based on being convincing rather than being correct.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Law and punditry. Calling Peggy Noonan.

It’s what the smart, angry beta males (and some females) use to compete when they’re not particularly manly, athletic, can’t attract girls, get sand kicked in their face, and excel in studying. If anyone doesn’t like the generalization, or you think it’s mean, piss off.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM

Okay, so if I have a hanging effigy of Barack Obama that is considered a hate crime, but if it is Sarah Palin, who cares? Did I get that right?

If it’s on MY PROPERTY, isn’t that a who cares because he is a public citizen and I am practicing my “free speech”. I know I would be forever labled a racist, which is fine, been hearing that since the immigration bill, but WTF?

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

I’m a little confused as to your point here.
Palin effigy, private property.
Obama effigy, public property.
Not that I am going to guarantee that the police are going to investigate a Palin effigy on public property they way they did the Obama effigy, but that’s not the point.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM

What? Firefox says “tireder” is a word.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:55 PM

Hear here..sugar sugar.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM

It’s what the smart, angry beta males (and some females) use to compete when they’re not particularly manly, athletic, can’t attract girls, get sand kicked in their face, and excel in studying. If anyone doesn’t like the generalization, or you think it’s mean, piss off.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM

Having just been fairly accurately described, let be say that I ended up with a Ph.D. in theoretical Physics instead.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

He obfuscates as cunningly as Clinton. – profitsbeard on October 30, 2008 at 8:29 PM

And if anyone knows about cunning, it’s Clinton.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Interesting conundrum there.

Obama being (half) black, there is “racist history” behind that noose…so that’s a “hate crime” and must be punished severely.

Palin is only a woman. And despite their claims, liberals don’t think much of a white woman who doesn’t buy their line of nonsense.

If it had been Hillary hanging up there, you damn betcha there would have been arrests….

MrScribbler on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Hear here..sugar sugar.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM

?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

That’s what I wanted to know. I saw an effigy on PRIVATE prop of Obama and they went crazy over it.
Not that either is good, but what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Tired of being told that one color is more special than the other.
We are all humans..it’s time that we act that way.
That’s all.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Having just been fairly accurately described, let be say that I ended up with a Ph.D. in theoretical Physics instead. – Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Theoretical Physics? Does that mean you only proposed your doctoral thesis but never actually submitted it? I’m confused.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Hear here..sugar sugar.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM

?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

You used hear in the wrong context.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

And back on topic: Osama Obama’s sole litmus test for judges is unquestioning obedience to Him Who sits in the White House.

If they’re willing to ignore the Constitution, they’re halfway down the road to confirmation.

MrScribbler on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Hear here..sugar sugar.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM

?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Yeah, well, its late hear on the East Coast, and I get more belligerent the tireder I get.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Are you related to “The Count”? Love that purple guy.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Trouble is I get in trouble if I act too human.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Obama being (half) black
MrScribbler on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Ah, come-on. Almost all African Americans are partly-to-mostly white.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Manly, need your knowledge…ever had a kidney stone with your rash?

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:04 PM

That coupled with the growing trend of officials to enforce only the laws they want to enforce and only on the occasions they choose makes rule by Democrats look scary indeed

snaggletoothie

Right on. One of the distinguishing features of America is the objective unbiased enforcement of the law. We can’t lose that.

kc8ukw on October 30, 2008 at 9:07 PM

Manly, need your knowledge…ever had a kidney stone with your rash? – HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I’ll have you know that the rash has healed. The cream and all those hot oil massages worked. Kidney stones? No, thank heaven. I’ve heard they are devilish painful.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Have one in each kidney. I went as the devil to a holloween party on Saturday and I am being punished. That and my friend and I almost killed half a bottle of parrot bay. The parrot flew and I got this calamity two days later.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM

In other words: We have rights that, while they may not be specifically enumerated by the previous 8 amendments, are presumed to exist in a free society.

Tuning Spork on October 30, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Barry’s gonna have to show me where Hamilton was speaking to “redistribution provided” healthcare…..

sven10077 on October 30, 2008 at 9:11 PM

Are you related to “The Count”? Love that purple guy.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Ah, ah, ah. :)
The fact of the matter is that, when I first signed on to Captains Quarters a few years ago, I was more centrist, and thought I was really good at working out the common ground between apparently irreconcilable positions (I was at the time for being something of a translator between two friends who typically talked right passed each other). At any rate, I wanted a name that captured that idea.
And the Count is the only vampire character I can stand:)

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:11 PM

I like you, Count. So, you went over to the “dark side” of conservative?
One radical associate, ah ah ah….

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM

Theoretical Physics? Does that mean you only proposed your doctoral thesis but never actually submitted it? I’m confused.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Sometimes it feels like it, but no. What it does mean is that I am very familiar with the “theory land” that things like communism live in, and how disconnected from reality they can become in a person’s head. We spend a lot of time on things we have no evidence for, simply because we haven’t thought of any other idea.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM

You used hear in the wrong context.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Oh. Wrong word error, the bane of my existence.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Hey, is anyone watching Hannity and Colmes?

Evidently, Bill Ayers dedicated his book to one Sirhan Sirhan…

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:21 PM

I like you, Count. So, you went over to the “dark side” of conservative?
One radical associate, ah ah ah….

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM

I would argue that conservatism is not the “dark side,” but, after Episode III, I’m not so sure. I mean, sure, you have one instance of an evil dark sider, but you have clear statistical evidence that light siders are pricks.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Hey, is anyone watching Hannity and Colmes?

Evidently, Bill Ayers dedicated his book to one Sirhan Sirhan…

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Yes, and Coulter said that his latest book was dedicated to a long list of cop killers. What gets me is that it takes H&C to find these kind of things.

Oh. Wrong word error, the bane of my existence.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:18 PM

We all do.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Evidently, Bill Ayers dedicated his book to one Sirhan Sirhan…

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:21 PM

One quick google search later, and…
Hun?
What, was RFK just not radical enough for Billy, or what?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Count, I have been a conservative since the day my father drove me to the primary polls and told me if I didn’t vote for the republican, I would not have a home. He was kidding, but he explained the difference and I gladly chose the republicans.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Kidney stones? No, thank heaven. I’ve heard they are devilish painful.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Unbelievable pain, unreal, I wanted my wife to kill me on the spot to stop the pain, agony. I would have told them where the treasure was buried, how many tanks we have, what the password to the nuclear bomb was, my wifes age and WEIGHT…then when you see what caused the pain (when you “pass” it, you are so ashamed. How did McCain and the others survive.
In Gitmo, forget the waterboarding, give them the “stones”.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:29 PM

I went as the devil to a holloween party on Saturday and I am being punished. – HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM

Of course you are being punished, naughty girl. The devil is passe. You should have gone as Michelle Obama. THAT would have scared the shit out of St. Peter himself.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:31 PM

There are already laws that forbid us from marrying just anyone.

Even if we wanted to, I could not marry my sisters, nor in most states my first cousins. That’s because marriage is not just a contract between two people; it also includes the potential of others (usually) yet unborn. To protect those babies from hemophilia, etc., we don’t allow such unions to take place.

I cannot marry Megyn Kelly (even if The Bride of Monster and Mr. Kelly were cool with it) because no state permits polygamy or polyandry.

I cannot marry a member of another species.

Not even an anime character.

The Monster on October 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM

I tell you what. I have such hate in my heart for this Bill Ayers. I hate hippies anyway, but this is beyond.
My husband is out there tonight, protecting people that he doesn’t even know, but he has honor and he took his oath to protect them.
Bill Ayers doesn’t deserve his protections and I wish someone would go after him and show him what fear feels like.
He is a washed up, hippie, *%Y(W(#*$&%$(* piece of SH*T that should be rotting in jail.
The fact that he can dedicate a book with his whore wife that give kudos to killers of cops and SIRHAN SIRHAN shows that this piece of work doesn’t deserve any protection.
EVERY ONE OF OBAMA’S FRIENDS ARE SCUM, AGAINST THE COUNTRY, HIS PARTY HATES AMERICA! What is wrong with these people, that they are stupid enough to believe this charlatan. I am mad.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Sometimes it feels like it, but no. What it does mean is that I am very familiar with the “theory land” that things like communism live in, and how disconnected from reality they can become in a person’s head. We spend a lot of time on things we have no evidence for, simply because we haven’t thought of any other idea.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM

So you think of something that doesn’t exist? And if it doesn’t exist, how do you know to think about it? And then…when you think of it, it now exists so it is no longer theoretical, so you can’t think about it anymore?
How much does this pay, I think I could work there…wait I can’t because I just thought it…how do you theoretically apply for a job?

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:33 PM

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:29 PM

Reminds me of the time Debbie Gallorano kicked me in the nads when I was 12. I saw God. And he told me I was farked because I stupid enough to let Debbie Gallorano kick me in the nads. It was the ultimate mobius loop.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Of course you are being punished, naughty girl. The devil is passe. You should have gone as Michelle Obama. THAT would have scared the shit out of St. Peter himself.

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:31 PM

As you can tell from my last response, I am a little hopped up. I have a stone in each kidney and waiting, waiting, waiting for them to pass. Doc gave me good meds, but still waiting waiting waiting.
I was going to go to the party dressed as Ashley Todd with a B and black eye, but thought better of it. Most of our friends are liberal. My husband loves it when I have to fight all of them.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:35 PM

ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 9:33 PM

And Debbie learned just how powerful a girl could be…but trust me, in water polo I had a serious of those injuries, enough so a doctor had to go up with forceps and retrieve the ball (and it felt like the water polo ball), that was a cake walk compared to the STONE (about 1/2 the size of a pea).

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:37 PM

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Tell me you are peeing through a strainer…that’s what I did, I wanted to catch that muther…I knew it was going to be the size of a marble…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:39 PM

I hear it’s worse for a man. My husband passed two, one that was the size of a pea.
Women can take a lot of pain, but this is getting old.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Count, I have been a conservative since the day my father drove me to the primary polls and told me if I didn’t vote for the republican, I would not have a home. He was kidding, but he explained the difference and I gladly chose the republicans.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM

I grew up rooting for the Republicans because that’s what my father did. I high school I got indoctrinated into Roe vs. Wade (and even came up with my own rational for it). In college, I voted for Clinton and Gore based on abortion alone, though I was for the impeachment and was glad Gore lost less than a weak after voting for him. I may have a conservative kind of personality, but, philosophically, I feel like I went off the left end of the spectrum and found myself approaching the center from the right. I always loved the military (particularly the fighter jets), and now feel like an ass for dismissing it out of hand when I was younger. I have, over the years, come to the conclusion that the Democratic positions on pretty much everything are stupid, seductive and dangerous. So, I find myself in the company of those who have assumed that from the beginning. But, hey, the journey is the interesting part, right?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Tell me you are peeing through a strainer…that’s what I did, I wanted to catch that muther…I knew it was going to be the size of a marble…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:39 PM

I have a plastic solo cup. Gonna get these suckers and take a hammer to them when they emerge. My doctor told me to drink beer…

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I have a friend that is voting for Obama based on Gay Marriage. He said he doesn’t mind paying more taxes. Most of our friends are liberals, my best friends, but they won’t even vote for Obama. It is hard sometimes and as I get older, I can see both sides, but I will always be conservative. I have one friend that works with my husband that is hardcore liberal and at parties, our fights are legendary. It is fun to spar and I love talking politics. I don’t take it seriously, all are deserving of an opinion. We won’t sway each other, but we won’t give up either.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM

EVERY ONE OF OBAMA’S FRIENDS ARE SCUM, AGAINST THE COUNTRY, HIS PARTY HATES AMERICA! What is wrong with these people, that they are stupid enough to believe this charlatan. I am mad.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM

I love that post…exactly what I feel, but who do you tell? Well I told my neighbor with the Obama sign…he knows how I feel about Obama and his terrorist scum bag friends (of course my neighbor doesn’t believe anyone could be that bad, the stories of Ayres is “exagerrated”)..he’s a fool (neighbor and Obama), he owns a business and says he may have to lay off a few people, idiot.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM

You will be shocked about how small they are…but look under a magnifying or microscope…
this is a weird thread…Ayres and kidney stones, I guess they are both about as useful.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:46 PM

So you think of something that doesn’t exist? And if it doesn’t exist, how do you know to think about it? And then…when you think of it, it now exists so it is no longer theoretical, so you can’t think about it anymore?
How much does this pay, I think I could work there…wait I can’t because I just thought it…how do you theoretically apply for a job?

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Oh, its not so much that it doesn’t exist as it is that we are very short on observations to test it. Whether we think about it or not has no bearing on its existence.
As for pay, well, it is good work, if you can get it. Not spectacular, especially given the amount of training required, but comfortable. You know, kind of like being a professor of education, but without the job security.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM

I hear it’s worse for a man. My husband passed two, one that was the size of a pea.
Women can take a lot of pain, but this is getting old.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:39 PM

My wife, that sadistic b*tch, started to do the “LaMaze” breathing crap on me, then started giggling and laughing…saying “see what it’s like? That’s how I felt 30 years ago”, don’t you gals ever forget, let alone forgive?

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM

I was just foolin, your job sounds great, but above my pay level.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM

You will be shocked about how small they are…but look under a magnifying or microscope…
this is a weird thread…Ayres and kidney stones, I guess they are both about as useful.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Ayers and kidney stones….need to be outlawed. Yeah, I’ve had them before, passes them easy, but these are just about to send me other the edge.

About Obama supporters, it’s like arguing with a moron. They are convinced he is the one. They drink the koolaid and believe the media. They see that he is a nice person. Hitler smiled too, you know.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Small stone vs watermelon…..yeah, hate to say it. You deserve it.
Hum, don’t have kids but I still like to torture my husband for fun.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM

I have a friend that is voting for Obama based on Gay Marriage. He said he doesn’t mind paying more taxes. Most of our friends are liberals, my best friends, but they won’t even vote for Obama. It is hard sometimes and as I get older, I can see both sides, but I will always be conservative. I have one friend that works with my husband that is hardcore liberal and at parties, our fights are legendary. It is fun to spar and I love talking politics. I don’t take it seriously, all are deserving of an opinion. We won’t sway each other, but we won’t give up either.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I am surrounded by (often snooty) elitist liberals, and all my friends are back in CA. There is no way I am bringing up politics with the people I work with, but I have a good (unemployed Ph.D.) friend that is conservative that I can talk with.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM

They see that he is a nice person. Hitler smiled too, you know.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM

The type is like my sister-in-law…she doesn’t understand life sentences (let alone death penalty), she is convinced that all people can be saved (no she is not religious but secular saved). Even the most heinous crimes, of rape and child incest, “oh, probable a few years of counseling and they would be all right”…terrorist don’t exist in her world.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:54 PM

but I still like to torture my husband for fun.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 9:53 PM

It must be hidden in the marriage vows…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:56 PM

don’t you gals ever forget, let alone forgive?

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:48 PM

I’m sure there is a saying that goes “Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget.”
I can’t vouch for the truth of it, but it certainly seems like the Democrats forget, but never forgive, while the Republicans forgive, but never forget.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Typical liberal, another side could be argued, if he were presiding over the Heller decision the finding would have been 5-4…kiss of your second amendment rights good bye.

Only a liberal could ever think our second amendment is in any way ambiguous.

Instead, we got a complicated, vague assurance from a very simple, solid, individual right that leaves great latitude in finding for a liberal activist court.

Speakup on October 30, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Good night all…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:58 PM

The type is like my sister-in-law…she doesn’t understand life sentences (let alone death penalty), she is convinced that all people can be saved (no she is not religious but secular saved). Even the most heinous crimes, of rape and child incest, “oh, probable a few years of counseling and they would be all right”…terrorist don’t exist in her world.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:54 PM

It seems to me that the type doesn’t really sympathize so much as imagine themselves (as they are) in the other’s position. They twist themselves in knots trying to fit the other’s actions to their own motivations, and thus imagine that the other can be quickly and easily rehabilitated.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 10:02 PM

The type is like my sister-in-law…she doesn’t understand life sentences (let alone death penalty), she is convinced that all people can be saved (no she is not religious but secular saved). Even the most heinous crimes, of rape and child incest, “oh, probable a few years of counseling and they would be all right”…terrorist don’t exist in her world.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 9:54 PM

I had that same problem in a college course with a person that just LOVED to spar with me. She used to always talk about her children. When the death penalty fight came up, mind you I used to live in Texas. We have an express lane and I LOVE IT, I asked her one question:

The death penalty. If a man raped and killed your daughter and executed your son, would you want him to get the death penalty?
She got silent. She was all about defending the rehabbing criminals.
I asked her again, If it was your children that this man killed, would you want him to live?
She started crying and she said, “I see your point.” She didn’t say yes, but she realized it is different when it happens to you. Best way to handle people like that.

Oh, and yes, that honor part entails torture of thy husband.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Good night, right. Sleep tight, don’t let the bed bugs bite.

HornetSting on October 30, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Strict letter of the Constitution? No more redistributive justice? I can hardly believe my ears. This squirrelly little POS will say anything, absolutely anything, whatever it takes to get elected.

The man is starting to give me a bad case of the creeps.

petefrt on October 30, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Having just been fairly accurately described, let be say that I ended up with a Ph.D. in theoretical Physics instead.

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Yes, but this is HA, where some very intelligent and hardworking people transcend the typical outcome.

Know Thyself.

JiangxiDad on October 30, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Obama has proven himself to be an inveterate liar. Anybody who believes one word he says deserves his fate.

Mojave Mark on October 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Wow. It’s refreshing to hear some thoughful analysis on how judges should approach the constitution…

mycowardice on October 31, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Wow. It’s refreshing to hear some thoughful analysis on how judges should approach the constitution…

mycowardice on October 31, 2008 at 12:13 AM

There is no such thing as “implication” when it involves peoples lives. Implication is alwaysaccompanied by individual perception. This country has survived upon the perception of the people, not of a single judge.

Sounds to me like Obama seeks to appoint closet dictators.

leetpriest on October 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM

All we really need to have in any Judge is a person that will interperate and follow the law as it is written. Obama’s all over the map and is being disengenuous about his adgenda because he doesn’t really want to admit his real goal here. He has shown his hand a couple of times, however, like when he said he wanted a justice who knew what it felt like to be poor, black, or pregnant at a young age.

Snuffy on October 31, 2008 at 2:54 AM

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