RNC ad: Slippery Slope

posted at 3:12 pm on October 30, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

While John McCain shifts from economics to national security, the RNC stays on the suddenly slippery numbers coming from Team Obama. Over the last two weeks, the definition of rich has begun morphing, much as Joe Wurzelbacher predicted:

OBAMA: If you make $250,000 dollars a year or less, we will not raise your taxes. We will cut your taxes. If you make less than $200,000 dollars a year, you’ll get a tax cut.

BIDEN: It should go to middle-class people… People making under $150,000 dollars a year.

VO: As time winds down to November 4th, so does Barack Obama’s definition of “rich.” In July, Obama said if you make less than $250,000 dollars per year you get a tax cut. Ten days before Election Day, he changes it to $200,000. And now, Joe Biden changes the threshold to $150,000.

If you’re wondering where you fit in, the answer is … Who knows?

WURZELBACHER: You know, $250,000 dollars now – what if he decides well, you know, $150,000 dollars, you’re pretty rich too, let’s go ahead and lower it again? You know, it’s a slippery slope… When’s it going to stop?

VO: Yesterday, he promised you a tax cut. Today, he promises he’ll change again. And tomorrow, he’ll “spread the wealth” to those that don’t even pay taxes at all.

Change. Change. Change.

Yeah, that’s Barack.

Part of this is due to a mix-up of terms, but I’m not going to exude much sympathy for a campaign that practically made its summer accusing John McCain of wanting a “100-year war” in Iraq. The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut.  That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

What’s clear in this clip is that neither candidate really seems sure what’s in their own policy.  They casually toss out figures that seem contradictory without explaining what they mean.  That’s either incompetence, or it’s a deliberate attempt to plow the ground for some slippery-slope changes of the kind Joe the Plumber predicted.


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godd*mn web ads.

lorien1973 on October 30, 2008 at 3:14 PM

This makes sense. The economic and tax issues are what will help the party as a whole and congressional candidates in particular. National Security helps McCain almost exclusively.

D0WNT0WN on October 30, 2008 at 3:15 PM

This has to be the final message. Keep pounding away McCain and Palin. Let’s hope it works…

RedSoxNation on October 30, 2008 at 3:17 PM

This is an excellent one-two punch strategy: McCain hits national security, the RNC exploits Senator redistribution and taxation.

Now…we need to get this stuff on television!

Matt Helm on October 30, 2008 at 3:17 PM

That ad has got to be the best yet, hope
it gets a lot of air time. The still of
Obama at the end was just classic.

Mulligan on October 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM

They should cut this ad before Joe the Plumber comes on, shorten it slightly to 30 seconds, and run it on TV.

Steve Z on October 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM

What is amazing is that Joe the Plumber called it. All the journalists, all the economists, all the elitists, all the pundits…and Joe the Plumber called it right.
Sometime smart gets in the way of common sense…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Great ad!

Connie on October 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Part of this is due to a mix-up of terms, but I’m not going to exude much sympathy for a campaign that practically made its summer accusing John McCain of wanting a “100-year war” in Iraq.

I would just note that the BHO team has been using their 95% figure for just about everything in sight and have been changing their “95% of _____ wil have their taxes cut” from ‘Americans’ to ‘American families’ to ‘working American families’ to ‘working Americans’.

The side that has nothing but words to offer has no respect for words. People understand this.

progressoverpeace on October 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM

That last photo of Obama looks pretty racist if you ask me.

At least, thats the vibe I get the Obama supporters are going to make.

wise_man on October 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Spread the Ad

jawbone on October 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Shout it out loud, from the highest transmitter tower!

J.J. Sefton on October 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Good ad, but it’s only as good as however many people see it.

I liked Joe the Plumber’s prophecy though..

lodge on October 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM

That video is not helping Michelle Obama’s kids.

It -really- wouldn’t help them if it were shortened to 30 seconds and put on TV

lorien1973 on October 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM

I hope its good. I saw McCain on Fox today and he looked like he was freezing his *ss off. lol.

I wont mind seeing more of Palin either in this and future elections.

johnnyU on October 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM

being against Socialism is racist, haven’t you heard?

jp on October 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM

If they have the money they should pay for this to run in CO, FL and OH.

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Lorien, shut-up, already. We know. WE KNOW.

Editor on October 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM

I love it.

But…

Where exactly is this playing?

Is this a TV spot? At 1:19?

ClintACK on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

You can buy minute long ads, right?

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

The whole tax cut thing is a giant flim-flam to make Obama sound like a fiscal conservative. He’s used conservative code words throughout this campaign, and unfortunately it seems to have worked with a lot of people. Just like Bill Clinton’s middle-class tax cut, the entire program will disappear once Obama is elected.

rockmom on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

That’s either incompetence, or it’s a deliberate attempt to plow the ground for some slippery-slope changes of the kind Joe the Plumber predicted.

Then there’s the third option Ed.

They’re lying liars.

fogw on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Not normally.

lorien1973 on October 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM

The last photo looks like he just handed someone the bong.

Akzed on October 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Part of this is due to a mix-up of terms, but I’m not going to exude much sympathy for a campaign that practically made its summer accusing John McCain of wanting a “100-year war” in Iraq. The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut. That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

Not exactly. Wouldn’t they get sacked with an increase when the Bush tax cuts sunset in 2010?

Nat Hound on October 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Niiiccee.

thirteen28 on October 30, 2008 at 3:25 PM

What is amazing is that Joe the Plumber called it. All the journalists, all the economists, all the elitists, all the pundits…and Joe the Plumber called it right.

Damn straight.

Topsecretk9 on October 30, 2008 at 3:26 PM

That was a good ad. Too bad he has no money to plaster it on the tube.

Hening on October 30, 2008 at 3:26 PM

I am starting to think ‘Change’ is more a reflection of his policy stances than his slogan.

Vashta.Nerada on October 30, 2008 at 3:27 PM

If you want to really scream at a screen, go to Obama’s automatic lie-generating website that purports to tell you what your tax cut will be.

You enter your income, number of dependents, how much you owe on your home, etc. Guess what? When we run the numbers pretending we still have a mortgage, he (a lie of course) says we’ll get a cut! When we enter the truth, that we’ve done the right thing and paid off our mortgage, taa daaaaah…. no tax cut for you!

Beautiful.

Sugar Land on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

You can buy minute long ads, right?

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

YES

funky chicken on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Obama looks like Batboy…

fitzsweetpea on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

progressoverpeace on October 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM

I would add, the BHO commercial shown from 10/25/08 shows in writing that FAMILIES making under $200,000 will get a tax cut. Earlier the argument had been individuals pegged at $200,000 and joint filers at $250,000 (trying to kill marriage off, I guess). So, BHO must have meant $150,000 for individuals even in that spot.

But it doesn’t matter. They just make the numbers up contemporaneously, anyway. Libs aren’t good with numbers. They like to think of numbers as ‘living amounts’.

progressoverpeace on October 30, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Gov Palin said today:

If you don’t believe me, Senator McCain’s running mate on this score, then just listen to Senator Obama’s running mate. In that way of his, Joe Biden strayed off message the other day and stumbled on the truth. And he never sounded more certain of anything. First, in the primaries he said Barack Obama is not ready to be president. Then, the other day, he “guaranteed” us that Obama’s lack of experience ensures us an international crisis. He said we could expect this crisis by July of 2009, within just six months of an untested man’s arrival to the Oval Office.

After a warning like that, it would be some comfort to believe, at least, that Congress might provide some national-security leadership. But, no, we’ve been put on notice by the Democrat majority that this is not to be expected either. Already, plans are underway by Democrat House Finance Committee chairman Barney Frank to cut defense spending by 25 percent!

We’re fighting two wars, with a force strength in need of rebuilding, and a guaranteed crisis heading our way, in the considered judgment of Joe Biden himself — and they think it’s the perfect time to radically reduce defense spending? They even tie these cuts to projected savings from the forced withdrawal — an early surrender — in Iraq that Barack Obama promises! The far left wing of the Democrat Party is preparing to take over the entire federal government, folks. And according to their own stated plans, the first thing to go will be one quarter of our defense budget.

As the time for choosing draws near, let me provide a better idea — wiser and safer course for America. Let’s not retreat from wars that are almost won. Let’s not gut the defense budget, in a time of multiple conflicts and obvious dangers. And let’s not entrust all the powers of the federal government to the one-party rule of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.

You know, a man can be admirable in many ways, and promising, and yet still not be ready for the most important and demanding job in the world. Rousing speeches can fill a stadium, but they cannot keep this country safe. For a season, a man can inspire with his words. But for a lifetime, John McCain has inspired with his deeds. And in five days, it will all come down to a choice between these two men, Barack Obama and John McCain.

Only one of them understands the costs of war, because he has paid those costs himself in the pursuit of peace. Only one of them has ever held command over more than a political campaign, and borne responsibility for the lives of others. He is a man of unquestioned honor, of personal and political courage, and of tested judgment — the kind of judgment that avoids crisis instead of inviting it. In a time of great danger, we are fortunate to have a man of his caliber ready to serve as commander in chief — and I ask you, my fellow Americans, to elect John McCain as the next president of the United States. Thank you, and God

Any Questions?

unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:29 PM

OT: Here is contact information for the DOJ department that just said it’s fine with Brunner not giving county election boards the info they need to verify which provisional ballots will be counted.

Keep in mind that all it takes for someone to cast a provisional ballot off a fraudulent registration in Ohio is to sign a statement saying the voter name and that they’re eligible to vote.

If Mickey Mouse registers his name has to be listed on the voter rolls. When you arrive claiming you’re Mickey Mouse you can get a provisional ballot as long as you’re willing to sign your “Mickey Mouse” to a statement saying you’re
Mickey Mouse and you’re eligible to vote. The county election board will have no proof that you’re not Mickey Mouse, so your vote counts. Period.

As long as the county election boards who verify provisional ballots don’t have any information to use against fraudulent voters, any fraud can vote and as long as the name they sign isn’t their own, they can’t be tracked.

Here’s the contact info:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Criminal Section, PHB
Washington, D.C. 20530

(202) 514-3204

(202) 514-8336 – FAX

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Mark Kappelhoff

Deputy Chiefs

Bobbi Bernstein
Mark Blumberg
Stephen Curran
Kenneth Gibson
Brent Gray

justincase on October 30, 2008 at 3:30 PM

That pic is creeeeeepy.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM

ClintACK on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

It’s playing here, on my facebook, on YouTube, on Yahoo, and I just sent it to Drudge. (Go ahead, Matt. They hate you anyway).

Connie on October 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM

How about getting some trackbacks going?

Connie on October 30, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Let’s see:

An actual picture of Obambi,
Actual video of Obambi contradicting himself,
Actual video of Obiden contradicting Obambi contradicting himself,

This is soooooo raccccciiiist!

AubieJon on October 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM

Not normally.

lorien1973 on October 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM

They let Obama buy 30 or them in a row.

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM

of

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM

The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut. That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

Listen to the first clip, again, Ed…

In July, Barack Obama said “If you make $250,000 dollars a year or less, we will not raise your taxes. We will cut your taxes.”

Get that? If you make $250K or less, we will cut your taxes.

I saw you giving Plugs the benefit of the doubt on this earlier this week, and I think you are way off base. In July, the cut off for the tax cut was $250K, and today it is $150K. The video clips are quite clear on that.

I know it is hard to keep up with Obama’s shifting positions, because the guy is slippier than a greased pig on a rainy day, but we have him on videotape!

gridlock2 on October 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM

That is pure gold.

JustTruth101 on October 30, 2008 at 3:35 PM

You can buy minute long ads, right?

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

No, I think they have to be either 30 seconds or 30 minutes.

mattshu on October 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM

The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut.

Uh, not according to the first clip, in which he says everyone under $250K gets a tax cut.

mcg on October 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Sugar Land on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

I went there and typed in that I made over 250k (I don’t, so no asking for handouts), and ObamaCalculator told me:

You most likely won’t be getting a tax cut under Obama’s plan.

I giggled.

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Where is Biden? Biden has been shut up for about 2 weeks now…

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Uh, not according to the first clip, in which he says everyone under $250K gets a tax cut.

Unless the RNC cut off the next sentence of his speech which explained it as Ed says. These are politicians, remember.

lodge on October 30, 2008 at 3:39 PM

That’s the best ad yet. The polls are moving on this tax thing. They need to get that on TV.

AYNBLAND on October 30, 2008 at 3:40 PM

We’ve seen this movie before: Bill Clinton and the middle class tax cut, 1992.

I’m betting on the same ending as well.

Cuffy Meigs on October 30, 2008 at 3:41 PM

justincase on October 30, 2008 at 3:30 PM

And I am not sure whether anyone has ever been prosecuted or punished for voter fraud.
It is one of those things people get all shook up about…then nothing happens.

right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM

This sounds like Clinton’s first 30 days of office – yeah right, tax cuts, sorry I’ll have to raise them now.

Kevin in Washington State on October 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Excellent.

Buy Danish on October 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM

I’m betting on the same ending as well.

Cuffy Meigs on October 30, 2008 at 3:41 PM

An Obama win, or Obama raising just about everyone’s taxes?

BadgerHawk on October 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM

We all know how he’s been changing things lately. So now Obama will change people’s taxes for those between 200-250k. But he will cut them for those under and raise them for those over.

But he’s still planning on letting the Bush tax cut expire, right?

So that means taxes on those making over 200k will be raised, right?

OBAMA: “If you make $250,000 dollars a year or less, we will not raise your taxes. We will cut your taxes. If you make less than $200,000 dollars a year, you’ll get a tax cut

DJ Tablesauce on October 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM

This $250K, $200K, and $150K problem is Obama’s problem to waste time with Biden and Alan Colmes trying to clear up.

All I care is that Obama has the appearance of being sleazing and evasive. He had a half hour last night to clear this up and plenty of time on the trail to address the issue to describe exactly what he and Biden propose–and they still haven’t cleared up the confusion.

Sorry, BO, you and Biden have created this problem on your own. Let’s us know what you decide after you get your stories straight.

BuckeyeSam on October 30, 2008 at 3:44 PM

I’m getting sick of the bait-and-switch of the terms ‘you’ and ‘family’. On the stump, he’ll say “if you make less than 250K”, but elsewhere I’m seeing that as a family threshhold.

A family making 150K is not one you would consider “rich,” especially in a high cost-of-living area like New York City.

askheaves on October 30, 2008 at 3:45 PM

The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut. That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

No, he pretty clearly tried to play it the way the RNC presented… he said “If you make less than $250k, you won’t see a tax increase… in fact, we want to cut your taxes.” He didn’t bother bringing the $150k to people’s attention when he was pushing he, so why should the RNC when they are attacking it?

DaveS on October 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM

I think the old $150,000/$250,000 mark wasn’t about income taxes. I’m pretty sure that was the zone that was, allegedly, free of the new FICA charges, which would go full on from $250,000 to infinity. There are so many taxes to be raised, and so much economic growth to kill, that it’s tough for team BHO to keep track.

progressoverpeace on October 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM

They used good material, but I don’t think they used it effectively enough.

I would’ve had Barack Obama with the 250K, then the 200K, then I would’ve had Joe the Plumber segment, “Well what if he decides ‘If you make 150,000 you’re pretty rich’” and the slippery slope then bam, Biden.

And at the end, “What if” what IF he decides to spread your wealth to people who don’t pay taxes? That’s the plan people! Should’ve mentioned that those 5% already pay 50-60% of the taxes.

But good material otherwise!

apollyonbob on October 30, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Obama looks like Batboy…

fitzsweetpea on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

He DOES! Racist!

/sarc

tru2tx on October 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Obama looks like Batboy…

fitzsweetpea on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM
He DOES! Racist!

/sarc

tru2tx on October 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM

I mean, He DOES!! The picture!

The racist was the sarc comment.

Loses snark factor when I have to explain myself.

tru2tx on October 30, 2008 at 4:04 PM

I’m in TN, a lock for McCain but still the TV is drenched with Obama ads. What’s he doing in the battleground states?

wepeople on October 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Joe The Plumber for congress!

csdeven on October 30, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Obama looks like Batboy…

fitzsweetpea on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Well, Batboy did endorse Obama.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Just like Bill Clinton’s middle-class tax cut, the entire program will disappear once Obama is elected.

rockmom on October 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Obama, like most other Dims, has rarely ever met a tax hike he didn’t vote for. They should edit this commercial (get rid of the repetition), and include the fact that in the Senate, Obama voted to raise taxes for people making as little as $45,000 a year. Anybody think a $45k income qualifies a person as “rich?”

Didn’t think so.

AZCoyote on October 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Obama looks like Batboy…

fitzsweetpea on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Well, Batboy did endorse Obama.

carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM

But the alien is voting McCain!

JetBoy on October 30, 2008 at 4:14 PM

What’s clear in this clip is that neither candidate really seems sure what’s in their own policy.

Present.

Mr_Magoo on October 30, 2008 at 4:16 PM

But the alien is voting McCain!

JetBoy on October 30, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Not according to Tom Cruise.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM

JetBoy on October 30, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Yes! Thank God for Cindy McCain’s willingness to “explore” alien territory in order to get the endorsement!

m064404 on October 30, 2008 at 4:23 PM

His ‘spreading the wealth’ meme buys ‘Demo’ votes. Who woulda thunk it?

Christine on October 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM

I’m in TN, a lock for McCain but still the TV is drenched with Obama ads. What’s he doing in the battleground states?

wepeople on October 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Here in NV I got to explain to my 12 year old son what “a woman’s right to choose” meant because of an ad that Obama’s running featuring middle aged white women bashing McCain. Thanks Barry. My son was appropriately horrified, but his young life didn’t need that.

funky chicken on October 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Funky chicken: and I thought BJ Clintoon was bad for the kids.

Christine on October 30, 2008 at 4:31 PM

Well done. Run it. Now.

PersonalLiberty on October 30, 2008 at 4:36 PM

I’m convinced. Plug me into the borg collective.

LimeyGeek on October 30, 2008 at 4:41 PM

What’s clear in this clip is that neither candidate really seems sure what’s in their own policy.

I’m glad you feel your moral relativity keeps you above the unpleasant political discourse, Ed. When are you moving to georgetown?

peacenprosperity on October 30, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Run the hell out of this ad… it’s beautiful.

D2Boston on October 30, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Part of this is due to a mix-up of terms, but I’m not going to exude much sympathy for a campaign that practically made its summer accusing John McCain of wanting a “100-year war” in Iraq. The cutoff for taxincreases was $250,000, while those below $150,000 would see a tax cut. That would leave those in between at the existing rate, or so Obama claims.

Not exactly. Wouldn’t they get sacked with an increase when the Bush tax cuts sunset in 2010?

Nat Hound on October 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Not to mention increased capital gains taxes — Obama has been clear that he’s going to raise them. This will be an enormous hit for anyone with retirement savings, or who wants to sell their home or business.

Also increased payroll taxes — Obama has been clear that he’s going to raise the salary cap (currently at $100,000). This will be an *enormous* hit for anyone making $150,000 right now.

Also the “trickle down” of Obama’s large corporate tax increases.

I’ve probably missed a few.

ClintACK on October 30, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Change, change, change!
Change of fools!

The Monster on October 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Revised Obama PLan #7: if you made any money last year, it’s ours.

profitsbeard on October 30, 2008 at 7:12 PM

OK, I was wondering how much this drop from 250,000 to $150,000 would Net the Government, 20% of all tax receipts.

Here are the percentage of tax payers in 2006.

Top 1% $388,806 39.89
Top 5% $153,542 60.14
Top 10% $108,904 70.79

So, it is reasonable to say that the jump from top 10% of payers at $100,000, to top 3% at $250.000 is about 20% of all payers.

According to Heritage Foundation the Government took in $1.2 Trillion dollars in individual income taxes last year. So, Obama found $240 billion dollars by going from $250,000 to $150,000.

WoosterOh on October 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM

gridlock2 on October 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Ed’s been hanging with AP too long.

But it was a nice try, Ed.

Tommygun on October 31, 2008 at 7:42 AM