Potential surprise in the House?
posted at 2:15 pm on October 30, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
In 2006, Democrats led Republicans on generic Congressional ballot polling by double digits and took control of the House. In 2008, the ground has quietly shifted — and it has accelerated in the past week. The Hill reports that the Democrats lost half of their lead in generic-ballot polling in the past week, and that the Republicans have come close to a virtual dead heat:
Republicans have cut the Democratic advantage in the generic ballot question in half over the past week, according to a new GW-Battleground poll.
Democrats now lead by four points, their slimmest lead in more than three years. A week ago, according to the George Washington University poll, their advantage was eight points. Meantime, the congressional approval rating remained low, at 19 percent, up two points from the previous poll.
While the poll could give Republican candidates hope in a tough political landscape for the GOP, it had only mixed news for the party’s presidential candidate, John McCain. The Arizona senator remained three points behind Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.).
In the final weekend of 2004, the Tarrance Group (GW’s partner) put the GOP up 3 on the generic ballot — and they won a larger majority. They have no data for 2006, but Rasmussen had a 14-point lead for Democrats, who won back control of the House as well as the Senate. Most analysts had predicted gains for Democrats in this cycle as well — but the sudden shift gives a hint that Nancy Pelosi may have her hands full on Tuesday.
The Republicans have some hurdles here, though. They have more retirees than the Democrats do, making it tougher to focus on pickups as much as simple holds of existing seats. Democrats have far outraised them, too, making it harder to get the message across in the districts.
Something appears to have changed, however. Could the divided government argument be working in a different direction? Have voters decided to prepare for an Obama presidency by attempting to pass the House into Republican control? It would probably take a harder swing than what we see now to make that a reality — but if this represents momentum, it may come at the right time for the GOP.










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oh please oh please oh please
pseudonominus on October 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM
That is the one bit of good news I was able to find. The Dems are soft in the house
Obama might be surging but COngress is still veiwed negatively
Hopefully in 2010 can retake the house
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM
I thought you were gonna say Pelosi’s seat was under threat
lodge on October 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM
there are not enough viable republicans winning to make it close.
the generic ballot is irrelevant.
GOP expected a wipeout, so the recruiting class sucked. Face it. It’s the White house or nothing.
lorien1973 on October 30, 2008 at 2:18 PM
We want it all!
kahall on October 30, 2008 at 2:18 PM
If the GOP can get organized they can turn things around.
Clean out the RNC and see where we can go from there.
Hey Fred if your reading this time for you to step up.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM
The GOP will gain the lead in house.
I told you so.
I’m betting they will on Intrade.com
I will make money.
Period.
Mcguyver on October 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Maybe the bailout did some good – I have heard from too many people all over the country that they plan to vote against incumbents, no matter the party. I can see some big surprises next Tuesday.
Vashta.Nerada on October 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Stop it Ed. You’re about to make me cry.
BacaDog on October 30, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Donks about to lose the House? Fuggetabout. Maybe no Dem Tsunami, but still a steady & strong tide. And McCain? 4 to 1 against.
Sorry. Reality bites.
Bruno Strozek on October 30, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Astroturfer Drywall loses.
Period.
Mcguyver on October 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
The deal is that republicans are voting down the line republican.
We are coming out in large droves to prevent an Obama presidency.
That means republicans can gain in the House, Senate, and win the White House.
jencab on October 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Keep in mind that the 2010 census will kick in and maybe move some more seats out of places like NY and PA and send them south and west. That shift in 1990 is what gave the GOP the house in 1994. It can help us again in 2010.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
HUH!!! poloser lost her grip a lllOOOOOOOng time ago…
twiggman on October 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
I need to buy more popcorn and beer this weekend it seems :) Tuesday night is going to be an all nighter it seems!
Kevin in Washington State on October 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Watching that psychotic 8itch have to turn over the gavel to a republican would be some sweet sweet schadenfreude. lol
csdeven on October 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM
America is waking up. Joe The Plumber put the core of the current decision plainly into public view. The man has earned himself a very prominent place in future history books. Whether as hero or villain will depend on which direction America picks (whether the pioneer spirit has died, or not), but he will definitely be a major figure. Amazing, I think.
progressoverpeace on October 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM
I bet she’d throw it.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 30, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Losing her mind.
NoFanofLibs on October 30, 2008 at 2:23 PM
I hate to say it, but most voters just don’t think that way.
flipflop on October 30, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Where?
johnsteele on October 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Regardless who wins the mansion on Pennsylvania Avenue, it’s going to be a tough four years for America.
Ace ODale on October 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I don’t necessarily see the GOP *winning* the House in this election, but I see them gaining a lot of ground and making Pelosi lean *VERY* hard on the Blue Dogs on party-line votes.
If Pelosi starts trying to push hard on the Blue Dogs to roll over and vote for some hard-left policies, one or more of them may jump ship and leave her with an even smaller majority.
teke184 on October 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM
this is the only thing that helps me sleep at night. please let it be so.
flyawaybird on October 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM
How the 2000 Census went 2010 should be similar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_apportionment
Texas +4 seats
Arizona +2
Florida +2
Georgia +1
Nevada +1
North Carolina +1
Oregon +1
South Carolina +1
Utah +1 California -1
Illinois -1
Iowa -1
Louisiana -1
Massachusetts -1
Michigan -1
Minnesota -1
Missouri -1
New Jersey -1
Pennsylvania -1
New York -2
Ohio – 2
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
If the Democrats even lose a couple of seats, it might be the impetus they need to throw out Pelosi, and pick a different Speaker…
Not sure it’d be a trade up from our perspective, but…
ClintACK on October 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Those don’t get factored in until the 2012 election, though, right?
ClintACK on October 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
It does help McCain because the polling is based upon a ten point differential or more in democrats to repubs, if the pollsters used a five point differential McCain would be far ahead in the polls.
eaglewingz08 on October 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I’ll read anything with the word “surprise” in the headline.
Dorvillian on October 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Maybe enough people have seen how inept the Dims are and know who is responsible for our finacial mess we are right now. I would luv to see Frank and Murtha sent home this election.
la.rt.wngr on October 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I think more voters have noticed that the Democrats control the House and kinda control the Senate. Between the financial mess, McCain’s comments and advertising naming the congressional democrats and a generally higher profile for bozos like Pelosi and Barney Frank lately – people are getting an education about who’s running the show there.
And they aren’t liking what they see.
forest on October 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Yes not till 2012. And kep in mind those are estimates so the Dems who control congress will have some say.
Its the state houses and redistricting that will be key.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM
OT, a bit but I thought SOMEONE should focus on why people should vote FOR John McCain.
And I want everyone from Texas (or if you wish you were from Texas) to subscribe to the new magazine I write for!
Rightwingsparkle on October 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Based on my highly scientific poll of me drinking a couple of beers and thinking about it, I think we’ll have a huge victory if we just keep the seats needed to filibuster.
BacaDog on October 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Yes the Southern states are gaining votes, but some of that is coming from Northern liberals moving South and bringing their %$#$%%#% up liberal ideas with them.
Look at whats happened in Colorado with all those Californians fed up with taxes etc., moving there. They brought their screwed up ideas with them and now they have the same stupid problems they had in California.
Where liberals go stupidity is bound to follow.
johnsteele on October 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
And for those that missed it MSNBC has a poll out today showing Norm Coleman with an 8 point lead over Franken 44% to 36%.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Yep. Just look at northern Virginia.
BacaDog on October 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Ohhhhhh can you just imagine how many liberal pukes in the MSM will just completely melt down on election night?
If McCain pulls off a last minute come from behind win by about 2 electoral votes and the dems lose control on congress also?
There would be liberals throwing themselves under the truck!
HoosierCon on October 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM
OT Awesomeness: US Navy names warship after Michael Monsoor.
carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Any data on the Murtha race in Pa?
BacaDog on October 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I just felt a tingle up my leg.
BobK on October 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I am saying a prayer right now. I would probably have a stroke laughing so hard to see R’s gain numbers and get that female out as speaker.
L
letget on October 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM
…and people like us dropping big bills in the offering plate the following Sunday…
Vashta.Nerada on October 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I haven’t found one person in my random travels who did not know that Fannie and Freddie were responsible for the meltdown in mortgages. From there it got fuzzy, but I helped them out.
tarpon on October 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Well dont get too cocky I mentioned before a “Surge” for Obama. I spotted a story that says the early vote ballots in most state right now are heavily democratic. They are voting early and often.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
As ashamed as I am to say this, I cast a vote for our state insurance commissioner based on the fact our Republican governor (whom I really respect) recommended him. The reason for this was it was the only office with candidates I didn’t know anything about & I had to place my early ballot.
Who’s not to say that other people aren’t voting straight Republican no matter what bcs they see what the Democrat majority has ALREADY done not done?
Badger40 on October 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/
Fox News:
0B0mber 47 McCain 44
Experience to lead McCain 78 0B0mber 49
Interest in election Repubs 70% Dems 62%
McCain wins if this holds considering lots of Dems goin for McCain!
Voters comin home to ……
dhunter on October 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Speaker of the House, Barney Frank (D MA).
Akzed on October 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Sorry no but some DOD contractor just offered to move a defense bid to Johnston. Im sure Murtha will be crowing about the money it will bring.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM
If this comes to pass, I want the House to SMASH socialism once and for all. I want filibusters, speeches after the lights go out, the works.
I don’t care if Obama is having sex in an inappropriate place, I want the Reps to address and demolish the progressive policy once and for all.
PattyJ on October 30, 2008 at 2:36 PM
I have a strong feeling the House surge is largely due to straight-Republican ticket voting, as someone mentioned above. Republican voters often do a lot of ticket-splitting, but not this time. Get ready for the surge of Broken Glass voters, the people who normally don’t bother to vote, but will crawl across broken glass to vote against the Dear Leader. Obama lost this thing when he stated looking downright creepy to the swing voters.
Doctor Zero on October 30, 2008 at 2:36 PM
I saw that and Murtha comes out swinging
Murtha is on his hands and knees begging the dems for $1 million dollars to save his hide.
William Amos on October 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM
whitetop on October 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I follow the races fairly closely, and I only see a handful of GOP seats going Democratic this time. Republicans may pick up two, three, or even four seats in PA. I think this shift will also save some embattled incumbents like Chris Shays.
rockmom on October 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, here.
DaveS on October 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
I have commented several times on here that with a single-digit approval rating, why DEMS thought they’d maintain or gain seats was beyond me.
But I’m not SURE of a darned thing.
Oink on October 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Pelosi’s chiiiickkkennnnss are commmminnnggg home…to ROOSSST!
carbon_footprint on October 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
That force her to another botox treatment…
right2bright on October 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM
I read this as the fact that the democrats are not going to win as many seats in the House as they expect. That can be a good thing.
clemycali on October 30, 2008 at 2:43 PM
She should switch to PoliGrip! (less ooze)
dmann on October 30, 2008 at 2:44 PM
oh please oh please oh please
pseudonominus on October 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM
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LMAO! Fingers and toes are crossed.
marklmail on October 30, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Considering what a crappy job of running the Congress the Democrats have done I would not be surprised to see them slip a little.
When they took over things were looking better in a lot of ways than they are now. The big improvement since then has been in Iraq and that has been in spite of them rather than because of them.
Terrye on October 30, 2008 at 2:47 PM
This won’t happen. Not this election cycle. I have great hopes for 2010 though.
Abby Adams on October 30, 2008 at 2:48 PM
I long to see Senator Inhofe waving a gavel at Barbara Boxer, and telling her that “Elections have consequences…”
Of course, it will never happen. Inhofe has way too much class to pull such a stunt.
gridlock2 on October 30, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Not allowing anyone to dampen my hope for change !
;-)
pambi on October 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Olson wins TX 22, Mahoney loses FL seat, Murtha behind in PA, that’s three losses for dems. I don’t know of any republicans in danger….
Vashta.Nerada on October 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Gilmore in Va loses for sure. Dole in NC, MCConnell in Ky are in tough races.
BacaDog on October 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM
I’m picturing a scene from Deliverance.
fogw on October 30, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Instead of botox…
Catseye on October 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Those are all senate though, right? I was thinking house.
Vashta.Nerada on October 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Cazayoux (D-LA) should lose to Cassidy (R-LA) in LA 6.
That seat would regularly go to Richard Baker (R-LA) around 75-25 before his retirement at the start of this year.
Cazayoux won the seat in a special election runoff against a weak candidate early this year, but is facing a stronger Republican candidate as well as an independent challenger who will be eating into his support from the black community.
There hasn’t been a lot of polling on this district, but the amount of signage displayed in the area seems to show Cassidy having strong support.
teke184 on October 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Snort. McCain surging, looking like some GOP pickups in the house (probably not enough to retake the majority, but enough to give Nancy heartburn), Franken going down, down, down….
Liddy Dole will win if not to many “true conservatives” throw electoral tantrums, same for McConnell.
it’s looking good for next Tuesday
funky chicken on October 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Faces in the crowds
Look at the faces of the people in the Obama and Palin
crowds. Very different: the Palin/McCain people are engaged, enthused (Palin) thoughtful (McCain). Obama’s really just voting “present”. They’re not engaged, they don’t talk to each other, they don’t laugh and smile – there are groups in those crowds that do: but look carefully, they have cheerleaders and they’re performing for the cameras.
What i think is means is that middle America, the sane people who make the country great, will vote overwhelmingly anti-democrat.
Will this be enough given about 5% pro-Obama fraud? Lets hope so.
Paul Murphy on October 30, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Jim Marshall (D) representative in GA looks like he might lose.
Too bad for him, as he is actually a real patriotic, independent minded democrat (thus part of a dying breed) but the GOP put up a strong, retired general against him.
funky chicken on October 30, 2008 at 3:11 PM
* DOES A SNOOPY DANCE IN PLACE *
Take that, Ms. Measures-The-Curtains-Before-They’re-Hatched!
Go to the dictionary and look up “democracy”…then look up “plutocracy”, and look for your picture…then go to “gargoyle”, and get your beef-jerky-lookin’ ass to a beautician and hand her the gold card…and say “Fill’er up!”….
Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Waters, Durbin, and then aaaaaaalllll of the RINOs who’ve jumped ship to Obama…even if y’all win…this week spent sweatin’ will be delicious….
Puritan1648 on October 30, 2008 at 3:11 PM
4:1 odds. I like that. Can you cover a $100 bet for McCain to win?
ManlyRash on October 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I’d like to think having Congressional approval ratings in the toilet might be starting to sink in, but doubt it will change things too much.
a capella on October 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Losing????
Lost, a very very long time ago!!
Viper1 on October 30, 2008 at 3:28 PM
It be nice to send John Hall of NY 19th home too. Guy thinks taking money from Rangle is a good idea. He’s running against Iraq vet Keiran Lalor.
Iblis on October 30, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I always vote straight Republican. I could never understand voting for a president but not voting for those who would support his agenda.
Rose on October 30, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Maybe she will bash herself in the head out of pure frustration? Or maybe beat the crap out of lollipop boy?
lol
csdeven on October 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Heck, I’ll be happy if we can just limit the losses and possibly save the filibuster.
Gains? Would be awesome in this cycle, but I certainly don’t want to count on them. But everbody needs to keep fighting nevertheless.
Either way, these numbers could be reflecting the unpopularity of the current Pelosi/Reid congress and the fear of Democrats having total control, especially after some of the things that have come up in the past few weeks (e.g., JTP, Obama’s redistributionist schtick, and the talk of gutting 401k’s and IRA’s).
If the dems make fewer gains than anticipated or end up actually losing seats, they’re going to be in for a rough time regardless of whether BO wins or not. It will be an indication right off the bat that their socialist agenda isn’t that popular, but if they try to govern from the middle, the kooks are going to blow a gasket.
thirteen28 on October 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM
LOL all the astroturfers have left is intrade, where Eurotrash billionaires can buy up millions of shares of “Obama Wins!”
who gives a damn about intrade? Unless some of you are inclined to go buy up shares of Coleman and McCain so you can take some of Soros and that Virgin Air douchbag’s money on Nov. 5. Apparently right after the two bad polls for Franken hit today somebody put in a huge buy for the guy…so Coleman shares should be a bargain, and almost a sure bet.
funky chicken on October 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM
That’s interesting. All we heard thru the campaign season was that the landscape is very poor for Republicans and the fact that McCain is a Republican is hurting him. I wonder how different things would be today if McCain would have run a campaign against the Democrats and spent more time linking Obama to Pelosi and Reid. Instead, for most of the campaign he basically said “yes Republicans suck but I am different.”
poljunkie on October 30, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen
unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM
There is another Republican pick up in the making near Houston.
Harpoon on October 30, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Does anyone really vote for a presidential candidate in one party then consciously vote for the other party in a congressional election for the sole purpose of maintaining a divided government? The whole premise seems absurd.
The Founding Fathers did not have a two party system in mind when they devised our three-legged system of checks and balances. I think the were quite convinced that the natural inclinations of men would slow things down quite nicely, whether there was a single party or a dozen.
pugwriter on October 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM
The only sure way that our nation will be brought to our knees is if Obama wins the presidency and the dims have full control of Congress. If that happens, we are all screwed. The nation as we have always known it, will cease to survive.
volsense on October 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM
pugwriter on October 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Yes they do. Take NC. Vote for Rep to national office but vote for dems in the state offices. Looks like this time might vote foe a rep gov.
unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM
The only sure way that our nation will be brought to our knees is if Obama wins the presidency and the dims have full control of Congress. If that happens, we are all screwed. The nation as we have always known it, will cease to survive.
volsense on October 30, 2008 at 3:46 PM
and thus:
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen
unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM
unseen on October 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Praying without ceasing, here, for sure.
pambi on October 30, 2008 at 3:58 PM
I’ll take your word for it. I guess I’m just not intellectually sophisticated enough to pull it off. Too many variables and all.
pugwriter on October 30, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Still my beating heart!
morganfrost on October 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Whatever happens, the pachyderms that we do manage to squeeze into congress had better be conservatives with fighting blood and not pack animals.
That is a very specific, very constant prayer of mine.
pugwriter on October 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Is San Francisco ready for change? Go Cindy!
Just A Grunt on October 30, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Amen, brother/sister.
Fuquay Steve on October 30, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Since the middle of the primary season, as far as I have been concerned, concerned, getting Republican control of the house was the only real hope for saving this country.
No matter who wins the Presidency, no matter who has control of the Senate, a Republican majority Congress is the only thing that stands between us and disaster, at least on the domestic front.
LegendHasIt on October 30, 2008 at 4:38 PM
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