Hot Air poll: Who’s going to win?

If Prop. 8 passes it will be mainly because of religious influence (esp. from OUTSIDE the state, specifically Utah and the Vatican) trying to reinstate a measure found unconstitutional by the CA Supreme Court, not by Gavin Newsom (and yes his gloating doesn’t help). and yes black Obama supporters overwhelmingly back the measure, so the Superdelegates will be to blame as well for choosing Barry over Hillary.
Noneya on October 30, 2008 at 2:55 PM

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I moved to CA last year, so I was not here for the first vote on this, but from what I’ve observed, there is popular support for Proposition 8 from people of all backgrounds who voted in 2000 and who are frustrated with the judges’ ruling (and Newsom’s gloating when he conducted the first gay marriages). I have not detected undue influence from Utah (I assume you mean Mormons… I know there is a relatively large Mormon community in CA, but not that large so I really doubt they are affecting the vote much) or Rome (and I’m Catholic). It’s interesting that you do not throw the blame on the blacks who oppose it, even though it is very likely they, too, are being guided by their religious convictions.

I’m voting for Prop 8 because (1) I object to how gay marriage was started here, over the voters’ objections; (2) I think legal rights on gay couples are sufficiently available without redefining marriage; and mostly because (3) society needs to address a number of serious ramifications that will arise from a redefinition of marriage.

I have yet to hear how polygamy would be preventable if gay marriage is allowed. The main argument I’ve heard is that it is not an issue because not many people will request it… but that is a poor argument. The Brits, who do not allow polygamy, are already headed down the slippery slope by allowing greater ‘welfare’ benefits to multi-spousal families. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Didn’t we start down the path to gay marriage through benefits to domestic partners?

I know some gay couples/families and I appreciate the frustration they feel. I do not want to interfere with their ability to build a life together. But I do not think it is advisable to redefine marriage for one minority group without considering the broader impacts on society.

I hope you can appreciate that even secular conservatives, which I consider myself to be (in terms of how I want my government to function, not necessarily my personal convictions), also have real concerns about gay marriage. I think you will have more luck convincing people of your position if you can tone down your anti-religion vibes.

Y-not on October 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM

You should still be able to cast a provisional ballot, right?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2008 at 3:27 PM

A what? Enlighten me.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 30, 2008 at 3:39 PM

This may help.

In CA we are given a receipt when we register in case the paperwork doesn’t come through the mail on time. I don’t suppose you have a copy.

I wonder if you could still vote in your old precinct? Probably not, but you might want to check.

FAQ About Voter ID Requirements

If you go to vote without acceptable ID as indicated above, you won’t be turned away but you will be given a provisional ballot. That means that you have 5 days days after a Federal General election and three (3) days after any other election to provide the correct identification or your ballot will not count.
There are other cards or documents you may have that have your photo on them, like credit cards, membership cards, etc. Those are not government issued IDs and are not acceptable for the purposes of voting.
If you want to vote, any form of ID you present, whether it is one photo ID, or two pieces of other ID, all must have both your name and address on them. For instance, a passport is not acceptable. ID with only a spouse’s name (not yours) and address are not acceptable.
If you have completed a provisional ballot, and you want to have your ballot count, you must appear at the Maricopa County Recorder’s Office (if you vote in Maricopa County) and present the proper ID. Here are the locations of the Maricopa County Recorder. There are also other specially designated locations where you can present the required documents.
If you choose to bring two non-photo IDs, they have to be from different sources. For instance, a bank statement with your name and address from two different months is not acceptable.
If the ID you present has an address that doesn’t match the one on file with the election officials, you will be given a provisional ballot, but in this case you don’t have to return with different documents. Election officials will verify the ballot after the fact.
Printing online statements from utilities is acceptable, as long as they meet the criteria for acceptable ID.
Photocopies of statements issued in the names of two people are acceptable, like bank statements or phone bills.
A person’s name will be considered as matching the election department’s records if it is reasonably close. If I present a current bank statement and a current phone bill with my address and the name Judy Hedding, that will be acceptable if the name on the election register appears as Judith Hedding.
If an ID has an expiration date, and it has expired, it is no longer valid.
No official at any polling place will keep any forms of identification presented.

Y-not on October 30, 2008 at 3:47 PM