The disarming Democrats
posted at 5:25 pm on October 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Wall Street Journal warns of one clear consequence in electing a Democratic President to match with a Congress controlled by fellow Democrats — disarmament. The WSJ looks at the inconsistencies of both Obama and Joe Biden on defense plans, and warns that the US could be looking at a drastic reduction in military readiness during a time of war:
When it comes to defense, there are two Barack Obamas in this race. There is the candidate who insists, as he did last year in an article in Foreign Affairs, that “a strong military is, more than anything, necessary to sustain peace”; pledges to increase the size of our ground forces by 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines while providing them with “first-rate equipment, armor, incentives and training”; and seems to be as gung-ho for a surge in Afghanistan as he was opposed to the one in Iraq.
And then there is the candidate who early this year recorded an ad for Caucus for Priorities, a far-left outfit that wants to cut 15% of the Pentagon’s budget in favor of “education, healthcare, job training, alternative energy development, world hunger [and] deficit reduction.”
“Thanks so much for the Caucus for Priorities for the great work you’ve been doing,” says Mr. Obama in the ad, before promising to “cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending . . . slow our development of future combat systems . . . not develop new nuclear weapons.”
Joe Biden also cut an ad for the group that was even more emphatic: “I’ll tell you what we cannot afford . . . a trillion-dollar commitment to ‘Star Wars,’ new nuclear weapons, a thousand-ship Navy, the F-22 Raptor.”
None of this should surprise anyone, especially after recalling this Obama spot from early in the primaries:
We neglected our military in the 1990s when we didn’t have a war to fight, or at least one we acknowledged. That neglect handicapped us in fighting the war on terror, which is still ongoing. Now Obama and the Democrats want to replay the disarmament and neglect of the 1990s in the middle of a war. How exactly will that help make America more secure?
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Russia will defend us by putting missile defense in Cuba. Such nice guys!
lorien1973 on October 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM
How stupid is it to disarm and then still be hawkish on foreign policy, like Obama pretends to be?
lodge on October 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Yeah military family here, I for one, am thrilled that Bambi is likely to sign off on Barney Frank gutting defense 25% and simultaneously wanting us to “do logistics” in Africa…..
He wants the US to get its nose bloodied after signing on to the ICC.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Because our enemies will like us then, duh! It’s magic!
CP on October 28, 2008 at 5:29 PM
When Clinton retreated from Somalia it sent the bad guys a crystal clear message. Obama sings from the exact same song-book. Our enemies are salivating.
perroviejo on October 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
If Obama gets elected and folds the US like a tent, Russia and other strong men win big.
What all does Russia get? Ukraine, Georgia, maybe Baltic states again and eventually Germany?
China take Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan?
jp on October 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
The Raptor? Are they flockin’ crazy? What, biplanes and waist gunners again?
Cheese and Rice, I could just strangle…..do these fools not know that a giant portion of the defense budget is spent on precision munitions which SAVE the lives of innocents and our soldiers while killing only the targets?
Are we to go back to Stalingrad-type urban combat and carpet bombing? I swear, are these people insane?
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
This morning I caught a bit on Obama’s closing argument speech where he was listing his economic plan and closed by saying to the effect that he’ll get the money from the 10B a month in Iraq. Now I thought that number was the cost of funding the entire Pentagon. So I’m guessing that yeah, we won’t be needing a military, nor will the rest of the world … cause Obama going to create for us a Civilian National Security Corps.
Texas Gal on October 28, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Hey sven, what’s shaking? Haven’t seen you here in a while.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Disarmament – in more ways than one. Apparently many in our country have failed to learn the lessons of the past. Disarming (see: reducing) our military is foolish and dangerous; disarming Americans is un-American….and unconstitutional.
dugan on October 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM
…but lets not talk about entitlement spending. Not like it’s the bulk of the budget or anything! Good grief.
Meric1837 on October 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Maybe he wants to “level the playing field”… the US has “too much of an advantage”?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 5:33 PM
The idiots in places like France and Germany and England who are cheering for the empty suit called Obama are in for scary times if he gets in.
Like it or not mon ami, you all benefit from the most powerful, benevolent country in history. When we are weakened, and we will be, don’t be surprised by what happens to your own security.
Sugar Land on October 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Good point. Defunding takes away jobs (DOD, Counter-Terrorism, Contractors, etc.), many jobs.
Talk about being “less safe” – this’ll do it.
dugan on October 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM
No defense, no America.
NObama.
Christine on October 28, 2008 at 5:35 PM
CanadianGuy on October 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Don’t anyone say that we weren’t warned this would happen if he’s elected.
wise_man on October 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Here is our Air Force after Obarky gets done with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueJ9sz92qJA&feature=related
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM
We could always depend on Canada and Mexico to protect us, like we have for them in the past. I consider the Mounties highly qualified.
ballz2wallz on October 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM
It won’t, and that’s what they want, in order to impose more control on the rest of us.
Have you noticed that Obama wants to “talk”, unconditinally with our enemies, Barny Frank wants to cut the Military’s budget by 25% in a time of war, all the Democrats campaigned on “ending the war” instead of winning it………
………… but let “Joe the Plumber” ask one question and the gloves come off?
It’s apparent that “the One” takes greater action upon regular American Citizens that might question his policies, than actual countries that have all of us in their sites.
……………… school yard political bovine fecal matter!
The first time this fool is tested, he will crap in his pants.
Mr. Obama…………….. you….. are……. a…… COWARD!!!
Seven Percent Solution on October 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM
It just keeps getting worse and worse.
My Dad just passed last week, a WWII, ex-POW vet. One of the last things he said to me was that now he wouldn’t have to watch the destruction of America and Free Markets and incentives for excellence and our military at such a precarious time in history and so forth.
Are people really so secure now about terrorism? Don’t they see that nothing else matters if we’re not here?
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Been helping teach a tax class, and getting ready for the election. I did some volunteer work for the campaign here. Look take the weird polls with a grain of salt the GOP is solid behind McCain and ready to crawl on broken glass to beat Bambi.
The polls are skewed to model “new likely voters”.
I suspect whoever wins it will be by more than 3%either McCain and the silent irritated majority or Bambi and the ACORN Cadaver Cartoon CORPS will make the margin wider than polls suggest.
I have faith in the American people’s wisdom when things are reported fairly, this is not the case this time in essence we know more about Joe the Plumber’s butt-crack through the violation of his privacy than we know about Bambi’s speeches and values if all we rely on is the press.
The nation, or at a minimum its leftoids and newsies are ill, I mean seriously ill and if it comes to brass tacks and the choice is between the founders’ embrace of Lockeian principles of the primacy of the individual or the Bambibot’s Marxian dreams the nation will at a minimum schism in ways not seen for a hundred-sixy years.
I’m with Sarah.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Like it or not mon ami, you all benefit from the most powerful, benevolent country in history. When we are weakened, and we will be, don’t be surprised by what happens to your own security
Oof, ain’t that the truth?
Sorry, we would love to bail you out, but we only have fifty ships now, three aircraft carriers and a single strategic bomber wing.
Good luck with the Russian invasion.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
most of the worlds economies are propped up by the American economy, so if we fold economically they get hurt worse as well, aside from the Autocratic states seizing some countries.
jp on October 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Indeed Grue, there is a school of thought at Foggy Bottom that thinks part of our “pr problem” in the Middle East is they feel “the US fights in unmanly ways” and thus Mog ‘93 was not necessarily a bad thing since it made us “more human”.
They are insane and EVERYONE in State that’s been there more than four years should be retired with full pay and told to go to Stockholm where they’ll be at their syndrome’s home.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 5:41 PM
It`s not like China is upgrading and expanding their military……..right?
doom
ThePrez on October 28, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Shhh. Enabling our enemies to inflict MASS casualties in major population centers around the U.S. is all part of Karl Rove’s plan.
My collie says:
Just thought I’d start a rumor for DKOS consumption. Sorry.
CyberCipher on October 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
So Barry, can you explain how your cuts will affect us? I can:
1. increase in unemployment as defense contractors and military are downsized.
2. increased threat and likelihood of terrorism worldwide
3. oil prices headed back up again, as terror premium is reinstated
4. destabilization of the middle east as troops are pulled from areas recovering from war
5. less weight at the bargaining table with Russia, China, etc, since we voluntarily removed our counter-threat
Hey Barry, try thinking more than a few days ahead for once.
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Obama is Carter Version 2.0
The late Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan summed it up when he said of Carter in 1980, “Unable to distinguish between our friends and our enemies, he has essentially adopted our enemies’ view of the world.”
Kevin in Washington State on October 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I fail to see how bombing the living @%$^ out of things is considered “unmanly”. What do they want us to do, pistols at dawn? Sabers to the death?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Sounds to me like Barry O is betting our lives that he can talk out any problems we may have in the world. He honestly doesn’t think he can’t fail, so why waste money on the military?
redshirt on October 28, 2008 at 5:44 PM
LOL. Point for Cyber and the collie.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 5:44 PM
So the Chinese, Russians and Iranians would be setting all the conditions, at least we would be liked.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Reminds me of a foolish guy in a Dr Who episode. He was melted by the Cybermen.
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
That missile defense shield has been shown to work and what is more we have signed treaties with other countries to share the technology with them. Can Obama just cut that off? What if there is a strike?
Terrye on October 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM
scary thing is our enemeis are funding Obama’s campaign and helped make is primetime TV special possible.
jp on October 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM
It just keeps getting worse and worse.
My Dad just passed last week, a WWII, ex-POW vet. One of the last things he said to me was that now he wouldn’t have to watch the destruction of America and Free Markets and incentives for excellence and our military at such a precarious time in history and so forth.
Are people really so secure now about terrorism? Don’t they see that nothing else matters if we’re not here?
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Sorry for your loss Moxie.
goplibertygirl on October 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
You can bet that Obama will not make this sweeping indictment of our security forces again as he tries to move to the center in the general election. But this is what he thinks, and this is what he plans to do.
His campaign Web site doesn’t list a separate category for military or defense under “Issues.” But search shows near-identical language there regarding nuclear weapons.
His plan, needless to say, is frighteningly irresponsible given the world threats.
While there is fat in the defense budget, defense spending both as a share of GDP and the total federal budget are still at historically low levels, despite the war.
And while cutting fat out of the defense budget is a worthy goal, Obama would cut beyond fat to bone.
Caucus for Priorities aims to redirect 15% of the Pentagon’s discretionary budget away from “obsolete Cold War weapons towards education, health care, job training, alternative energy development, world hunger and deficit-reduction.”
On the chopping block: the F-22 Raptor, the V-22 Osprey, the Virginia-class sub, the DDG-1,000 destroyer and the Army’s Future Combat System.
Source: IBD
RushBaby on October 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
He is the anti-Christ
skatz51 on October 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM
remember their idea of precision guided munitions is to wire up a mongoloid child with 40 pounds of c-4 and rat-poison covered shrapnel and aim him at a mosque…..these are not rocket scientists we are discussing and the left has fundtionally painted us in a corner given our knee-jerk reaction away from empire….
we are funding 7-12th century minds to the point they will have at a minum late ’40s level nuke tech within the decade and simultaneously assuring them through giving handjobs to our “allies” that we will never retaliate in kind….and our public is eating it up.
It was my sincere hope that the loss of 3,000 American civillians on one day owuld be enough for us to steel the political will to teach the region a lesson and fund domestic nuclear plants while eliminating regional tough guys’ oil production.
It was not meant to be, instead of paradigm shifts in national defense policy we went schizoid and treated it as a peacekeeping op/domestic cops and robbers game without the domestic game being allowed to use “evil profiling”.
Best case scenario is a United States under McCain gets lucky and interdicts the WMD strike one of our enemies intends before it happens steeling our will…..worst case is a disunited states has to absorb one or more major metro areas suddenly needing SPF 3500 lotion and we either have the tools to go sword of damocles or not….but at any rate Barry’s “vision” almost ensures the use of nukes before 2025.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
“We could be allies! We could…”
ZZZZZZZZZZAP!!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
OT:
Erick Erickson has a post up documenting the connection between the anti-Palin rumors and Romney supporters. If true, they are not doing Mitt any favors.
Terrie on October 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM
baldilocks on October 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Obama will replace the US of KKKA with the US of KGB-A.
Steve Z on October 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Wait. Didn’t the media call out Obama on this ad back during the primaries?
ROFLMAO! I keed, I keed!
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 28, 2008 at 5:53 PM
“The Wall Street Journal warns of one clear consequence in electing a Democratic President to match with a Congress controlled by fellow Democrats — disarmament.”…ya think?!
christene on October 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM
So sorry for your loss. May he rest in eternal peace; he certainly earned it.
We owe it to heroes like your Dad to make sure the Great
American Experiment continues to succeed.
IrishEi on October 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I have Obama supporters in my neighborhood who work for defense contractors with Obama signs in their front yard.
Talk about morons. Where do they think those “25% cuts in the defense” are coming from?
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
The demand for clean-up crews to handle terrorist attacks will go up. Buy stock in shovels.
Ronnie on October 28, 2008 at 5:58 PM
That’s for sure. Especially at this point in time. Focus, idiots!
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM
On August 29th, 2009 it’s gonna feel pretty fucking real to you too. Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day… Get it?
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM
OT: Someone needs to get the Khalidi piece Gibson is doing right now. I sent Shep 3 links this afternoon after he grilled Joe the Plumber on why Obama will not be a friend of Israel. Hope he reads them. One was from Gateway Pundit and had a video of O’Reilly on Khalidi. Joe the Plumber, btw, did a great job when he talked with Shep.
Connie on October 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Sounds dirty…in an aeronautically pornographic sense.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Huge, enthusiastic crowd in Fayetteville, NC listening to McCain. This ain’t over!
SouthernGent on October 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Are there any large military bases in PA or OH, any large military hardware manufacturers? IF there are, the people who work there might want to hear this.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Pacifist nitwit, and ChickenHawk bullshitter, all in one.
Jaibones on October 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM
My dad died two years ago. Veteran of the first reconnaissance unit to occupy West Berlin after the war, in 1952. He told me stories of peering through binoculars at the line of Soviet tanks outside of the city, their officers peering through their binoculars back at him. Unnerving.
I mourn your loss with you. May your father rest in peace.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Amen, they know at last the final eternal peace of His Kingdom where old friends can bond and old enemies finally break bread and discuss the wary respect they held each other in on this mortal coil.
Every WW2 gener we lose is a reduction in a vital national resource….the mix of balls and brains.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Simple Ed. As Regan said, there is a way to have peace, and you can have it in an instant. Surrender. That’s what the Dems have been trying to do since 9/11. Oby-One is planning to complete that process.
MikeA on October 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Sure, McCain is old, but I don’t think that there will be that many candles on his next birthday cake.
rw on October 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM
On August 29th, 2009 it’s gonna feel pretty
fuckingFARKING real to you too.Sanitized it for you. Allah says nobody is to drop the F-Bomb.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Sure, McCain is old, but I don’t think that there will be that many candles on his next birthday cake.
rw on October 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM
:-)
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 6:13 PM
I have been trying to get this very message out since this election cycle began. I realize the focus is on the economy right now and that helps Obambi, however I try to remind people that are leaning Obambi (because of the economy) they need to remember Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, and the first and foremost need for anyone is survival!
The economy won’t mean a damn thing if we get hit by those that have vowed to destroy us, and with Iran getting closer to a nuke the stakes are even higher!
Eveyone keeps saying “it’s the economy stupid” but anyone with half a brain should know it’s not the “economy stupid” what’s most important is the survival of our people and nation, and if Obambi is elected POTUS he will gut our military and intelligence agencies as Slick Willy did so he can brag about a budget surplus while our enemies go unchecked and hit us with something worse than 9-11!
For this reason alone Obambi should not be elected POTUS!
Liberty or Death on October 28, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Sanitized it for you. Allah says nobody is to drop the F-Bomb.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 6:13 PM
It was a direct quote, anything less would have ruined the essence. Besides, I’m about the only one at HA who hasn’t questioned his allegiance or motives, he secretly likes me for that.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM
My Dad is still alive at 89 and was also in Europe at the end of WWII. He has seen enough to be be scared of this election, and he does not scare easily. He is also angry that so many people are willing to so easily throw away what his friends died to protect.
MikeA on October 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Just need to find new ones somewhere then. Or make them.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Yes, yes they are Bishop…and it will be you, me, and our nation that will pay the price for their insanity!
Liberty or Death on October 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Bama will disband the military and arm his own civilian national defense corps…Joe the Plumber ian’t seen no retribution like the stuff people will see in a few years.
Ban a TV station from interviews? Hah, blow it up and execute the non-believers…
Harry Schell on October 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Yes, yes they are Bishop…and it will be you, me, and our nation that will pay the price for their insanity!
Liberty or Death on October 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM
That’s just great.
Is it too late to create the earth of Starship Troopers, force those who want to vote to serve a military stint and see the world as it really is?
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 6:26 PM
As long as we can pass on the bugs…
“COME ON YOU MAGGOTS DO YOU WANT TO LIVE FOREVER?!?!?!?!?!?!?”
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM
erm…in Starship Troopers the US falls into what is being described as happening now before the gunners finally say, “no…really let’s have some order.”
I find it more likely the rightist backlash to Marxian daydreaming will take root here than a prolonged love affair with empty bellies.
That is why the second amendment is second only to the free expression of faith and political will in our God endowed rights.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 6:32 PM
I went to the Caucus4Priorites site and found a link to Ben of Ben & Jerry’s, who uses oreos to explain how the federal government is a maze, it’s our money, and we need to shift Pentagon funds to fight world hunger, fund day care and other social programs.
How can we do this without threatening our security? Why Russia is an ally and only spends a teeny weeny bit on its military, the axis of evil spends even less.
Paging Alfred E. Neuman.
Buy Danish on October 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM
UGH!
My Father, my hero, the Republican has always detested Ben & Jerry.
He suffered a massive stroke but still knows who his enemies are.
Domino on October 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM
From what I have heard, the Lithuanians will go down fighting if necessary.
Count to 10 on October 28, 2008 at 8:27 PM
I worried about that a lot less when I lived in small towns far away from anything important.
Now I live in a major city that might be considered an “alternate target” if someone can’t get into D.C.
Count to 10 on October 28, 2008 at 8:51 PM
You can thank the Clintons for the 90’s. At least the Democrats are consistant. Ol’ Hope and Change will probably just order a bunch of white flags from China.
GarandFan on October 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Thank you, everyone, for reminding me that there are still people who do not take our hard-earned, hard-defended freedom for granted.
Land of the Free BECAUSE of the Brave!
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 9:08 PM
My Dad was a B-17 pilot, shot down over Germany 1943, POW 19 months, liberated by Patton. He had just started “talking” two years ago and I got it all on tape. I am so humbled when I try to imagine having those kinds of responsibilities at such a young age.
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Yeah, by none other than his very own VP pick.
4shoes on October 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Moxie, so sorry to hear of your loss.
4shoes on October 28, 2008 at 9:27 PM
That’s bad.
4shoes on October 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM
You are among friends.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Our Greatest Generation can currently be found in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The debt we owe them is at least as great.
irongrampa on October 28, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Darpa brought us the computer, the Internet, atomic energy/bomb, stealth technology, and gps munitions. Always money well spent. What have the Dhimmicrats brought us?
Mojave Mark on October 28, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Obama is a shameless liar, a committed leftist and an egotist, a combination that spells disaster for more than the military. Owhorama will use his election as a mandate from the American people to end our “cowboy” policies and adopt a more cooperative(EU) posture with the wold community, as such he’ll claim the need to shift American strategic policy from one of stand alone or independent capability to a policy that will rely far more on mutual aid and shared responsibility. While this approach may sound reasonable it is nothing more than an exercise in rhetorical 3 card charlie. Under such a strategic vision Owhorama will cull the vast majority of our offensive strike platforms (B1,B2, Tridents and ICBMS) claiming that together with our new one world strategic partners (UN) we can provide tactical solutions to any threat, he’ll make good on his promise to eliminate any ABM systems, claiming they are unproven despite the facts to the contrary. He will freeze any further procurement of advanced systems like the F22, F35, Arleigh Burke FIIA, V22, CH53K and the ABL, again claiming that current resources when combined with our allies are more than adequate. We can kiss goodbye replacements for the C5, KC135, UH60, LA class attack subs, M1A2. Owhorama’s message that we need to be a more responsible world citizen coupled with tough economic times will seal the deal with the redistribution crowd. Did I mention The War on Terror?…neither will he. A nice fat peace dividend to pay for all the nice fat social programs. Keep’m happy dumb and fat, they’ll vote Democrat everytime!
dmann on October 28, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Gee Ed,
You had me worried there for a moment…I thought this was going to be about the 2nd amendment…
Cause I heard …. Oh wait…. Sarc
Lol!
These libs are such fools…I sometimes can’t believe they actually say this stuff…amazing!!!
jerrytbg on October 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Moxie on October 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM
With ya there mox…
My Dad always told us that he was just a map reader….He was in fact exceptional at topography ….
A year or so before he died he and I were watching Victory At Sea and he was sitting on the edge of his seat, literally, when watching the episode that covered the battle at Monte Casino…
He opened up some but not completely…As it turns out he and his squad ,(he was in charge as the senior NCO),mapped the entire valley and all the accesses to the abbey…
It wasn’t until after he died and I was going through his things that I found his bronze star…
I am so proud of him.
jerrytbg on October 28, 2008 at 10:19 PM
With ya there mox…
My Dad always told us that he was just a map reader….He was in fact exceptional at topography ….
A year or so before he died he and I were watching Victory At Sea and he was sitting on the edge of his seat, literally, when watching the episode that covered the battle at Monte Casino…
He opened up some but not completely…As it turns out he and his squad ,(he was in charge as the senior NCO),mapped the entire valley and all the accesses to the abbey…
It wasn’t until after he died and I was going through his things that I found his bronze star…
I am so proud of him.
jerrytbg on October 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM
0bama is a naive metrosexual Marxist who is going to get a lot of US soldiers killed if he becomes CIC. Look for many military people to leave the service like they did during Clinton and Carter.
mydh12 on October 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Michelle O. obviously did some intimate disarmament on Barry long ago.
Clink* Clank*
profitsbeard on October 28, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Obama/Biden can cut the money from the military budget because of the Department of Peace and Nonviolence (H.R. 808) that was mentioned here in another thread.
The word “Peace” has never made me feel ill before. Who doesn’t want peace? The more apt word would have been pacification.
You guys need to read the legislation. It will essentially create a generation of Americans that will not fight.
nyrofan on October 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Of course, if you believe we are a bad country doing bad things with a racist past we can never let go of, you will want to weaken us to allow our enemies easier access to attack and kill us. The big-eared goblin thinks we deserve such punishment and, by Allah, he’s going to make it happen.
(yes, I know he claims to be a Christian. But why should I accept this if almost all his other claims and promises are bull****)
SKYFOX on October 29, 2008 at 5:14 AM
Are we to go back to Stalingrad-type urban combat and carpet bombing? I swear, are these people insane?
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 5:30 PM
MarkTheGreat on October 29, 2008 at 7:56 AM
“WHAT will disarmament of America secure” is the question.
MARXISM
The answer is as obvious as the question: Obama Marxism will dismantel the US Military, having monopolized the Legislative, Judicial and Executive Branches.
JUDICIAL? Judges deny citizens “standing” in court regarding CONSTITUTIONAL matters, wherein the Constitution literally guarantees Citizens “standing” in whatever Constitutional matter before the Courts.
VOTE AGAINST OBAMARX
maverick muse on October 29, 2008 at 9:00 AM
Count to 10 on October 28, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Though it be China’s dream to monopolize Japan, come right down to the wire of combat, I don’t see Japan succumbing to domination by China though it be obliterated in the process of battle. Japan may have been “Americanized” into consumer driven capitalism, but because they are a homogeneous racial population, their cultural identity or traditional heritage is potently intact. The Japanese may well prove they’d rather die than submit to tyranny from China. (Reminiscent of our Founding Fathers’ sentiment under Colonialism without fair representation from the oppressive government abroad.)
With Obama in office, the US will refuse its alliances, having refused its own citizens’ Constitutional Rights.
D-Obama brings deprivation, destruction and death.
Vote against D-candidates.
maverick muse on October 29, 2008 at 9:16 AM
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