Ohio official OK’d records search on Joe the Plumber
posted at 11:00 am on October 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Columbus Dispatch reports that at least one culprit has emerged from the misuse of public information to attack Joe Wurzelbacher — and to no one’s surprise, she’s a Democrat and a big Barack Obama supporter. Helen Jones-Kelly decided to check on Wurzelbacher as soon as he became an issue in the third presidential debate. But this maxed-out donor to Obama swears that she had no political reasons for her sudden curiosity about Wurzelbacher:
Ohio’s inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on “Joe the Plumber.”
Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK’d the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.
She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.
Amid questions from the media and others about “Joe the Plumber,” Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.
Those records are supposed to be checked only when some probable cause exists to do so. What was Jones-Kelley’s probable cause? She claims that sudden public notoriety is enough to generate an investigation of someone’s status. I can’t wait to hear what the ACLU makes of that explanation.
The more likely explanation comes from Ace:
Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley (two e’s in Kelley) just happens to be a maximum $2300 contributor to Barack Obama.
What a [expletive] shock, huh?
But she provides this sort of illegal intrusion into personal records for anyone who “comes into the public light.” It’s a public service, you see.
Right.
Riiiiight.
Here’s an even bigger shock:
Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said. “Based on what we know to this point, we don’t have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee,” said Keith Dailey, Strickland’s press secretary.
No reason to believe that Wurzelbacher got politically vetted for dirt? What reason existed to look up his information at that particular point in time? Had someone filed a complaint against Joe? The act of opening his court records by a public agency has to have some motivation, and if no reason for a legitimate investigation exists, then by deduction the reasons were illegitimate — and almost certainly a Dumpster Dive for Dirt.
Change You Can Believe In — The State Will Own You. You’d better believe it.
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What will it take?
tru2tx on October 28, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Lexington Green, 1775.
Bishop on October 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
That’s just it Dave. Your guy will get her promoted for this.
This is the change he has in mind.
DeweyWins on October 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
“WTF is the department of justice doing?”
The DoJ is staffed with Clinton employees. Every time the administration tries to get rid of one, they get hauled before Congress in hearings. DoJ isn’t going to lift a finger against this kind of stuff. It is a political organization at this point, not a law enforcement organization.
“By all rights any Republican candidate should be mopping the floor with Obama. ”
Yup, but not a single major network or newspaper will carry the stories. They are also political organizations now, not news organizations.
This country pretty much sucks at this point. The corrupt Democrats have taken over the institutions that were designed to prevent this kind of thing from happening.
crosspatch on October 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM
someone needs to step up and stop this kind of police state tactic.
where is the ohio attorney general?
ohioans need to stand up and get vocal.
jimmer on October 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM
She was appointed by strickland…he gave her ass a pass…she also gave bho the max donation of 2300.00…go figure…
Can’t wait for the MSM to pick this up…tic toc…
areseaoh on October 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Get Megyn Kelly on this. Here’s the question: “So, we have a government official who went into the records of a private citizen, and illegally released his information to the press. This official also happens to be someone who illegally contributed more than the maximum allowable $2300 to Obama in July of this year, yet you are ’satisfied that there are no political overtures’ involved?” Am I hearing you right, or has the entire world gone nuts?
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Fixed it
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2008 at 11:52 AM
(Oh yeah, I forgot):
Nothing to see here….
This is just a first class maxed out Obama donor working for a first class presidential candidate.
Don’t worry about a thing.. this is all grade “A” first class cool stuff.
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM
That’s just it Dave. Your guy will get her promoted for this.
This is the change he has in mind.
DeweyWins on October 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
———
Yes, her imminent promotion is on Hussein Osama’s website RIGHT NOW.
Dave Rywall on October 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM
This is the kind of Nixonian dirty tricks that ended up in tricky Dicks resignation. This is just a prelude of what is to come. Radio and television stations being denied acces unless they toe the party line. What comes next? No knock raids for firearms confiscation.
The message is – Shut up and keep your head low if you know what is good fopr you, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
Kuffar on October 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Since Joe’s kid lives with him, just who did the woman think Joe might owe child-support payments to? Himself?
AZCoyote on October 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM
“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
George Santayana
Are we to repeat the WWII model or the Decline and fall of the Roman Empire model?
kelly Tejera on October 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Here is a mid-day palate-cleanser that I am posting to all of today’s threads. It’s very inspirational and I promise it will be worth 2 minutes of your life. Birth of the U.S.
ManlyRash on October 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Quotes or not, there’s nothing appropriate about calling one of our politicians a ho.
No. By all rights any Democrat should be completely mopping the floor with the Republican. The economy is suffering, and our president has a historically low approval rating.
By all rights no Republican should be able to stand a chance.
That’s bull. After he picked Palin the base has come out in droves to support the campaign.
You mean the polls that over sample Democrats because they expect a high Democrat turnout in this election?
Moral equivalence… it’s not just for the Democrats anymore.
Esthier on October 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM
I can tell you that easily. As a long time Single parent, whose kids have at times bounced back and forth between houses?
LEGALLY my Ex wife has to pay me child support, but when my son decided he wanted to live with her, we aggreed on no child support for him…. and no paperwork was done or needed.
I know of at least 5 other guys, who have this same type of situation, where Xs are friendly and adult enough, not to involved the courts…
She was probably hoping that Joe had initialy NOT had custody, but son decided to live with him, and the paperwork was not done…
Romeo13 on October 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Thank God I don’t live in OH anymore. Back in ‘87 Columbus was a cesspool & now it’s even worse.
Nothing to see here folks-move along.
Badger40 on October 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM
This is incorrect information. Ed’s post clearly identifies her as director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services. That’s a state level position–in Columbus, Ohio. The immediate tipoff would be that all the address information relates to Dayton, Ohio, and her previous county position.
A second tipoff would be to go to the homepage for her current state position. To that end, here’s her bio off that page:
http://jfs.test.ohio.gov/ocomm_root/director.stm
Here’s a contact page (scroll down and look for Director’s Office); a phone number and fax number are provided. No e-mail address.
http://jfs.ohio.gov/aboutus/0002AboutUs.stm#R01
Have at it.
BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM
On a steady course for the decline and fall model, but the fall of the Roman Empire brought something better. Forget your what your leftist history books spewed on you. There was a formidable Renaissance during later antiquity and the dreaded “middle ages.”
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM
That’s a when not an if. Aside from McCains failure to excite the electorate, it is clear that the Democrats intend to win by fraud if necessary. Expect a huge landslide next week and not for the grumpy old guy from Arizona.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Can Joe sue her?
justdianne on October 28, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Even if she didn’t get caught invading citizen’s privacy for partisan reasons, that is one job where I wouldn’t think it wise to put an e-mail address out.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Pres Bush were in the hell is the Dept. of Just. in this clear illegal act what about Joe,s civil rights? You must act now are there is no justice left in this country!!
thmcbb on October 28, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Say, old friend, you’re not suggesting Mrs. Jones-Kelley should be spared being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, are you?
Lots of Watergate felons got put in the slammer for this kind of thing.
Or are you just another hard-left hypocrite?
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Perhaps we should select one of the “elite” of the media and give them the ‘Treatment’ – find out everything we can and publish it.
Research the public record, dig through their trash, etc. Give them a taste of what they do to people and see how they like it.
They’re in the public eye, shouldn’t we know about their background?
kelly Tejera on October 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM
…can you say “police state”?
…I knew you could….
Puritan1648 on October 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Paging Joe the Lawyer, Joe the Lawyer…Money, Money, Money.
Dr Evil on October 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Think your Messiah will denounce this kind of behavior made on his behalf?
Sure he will. Right after he denounces ACORN for voter fraud.
DeweyWins on October 28, 2008 at 12:07 PM
One should recall that a favorite tactic of Hopenchange and his supporters is to access normally private or sealed records on political opponents, and then to release any damaging information that surfaces.
That’s how he won election in Illinois, and to the US Senate.
In a Hopenchange presidency, get ready for the following government agencies to become state instruments of harassment:
- The IRS
- The Secret Service
- The Justice Department
In a liberal thugocracy, conservative freedom of expression will be subject to a multi-layered effort to: (1) deny conservatives a voice (media refusal to cover stories or issues unfavorable to The One, coupled with a “fairness” doctrine to close down conservative media); (2) intimidate conservatives into silence with politically motivated audits and investigations; and (3) where possible, obtain criminal indictments against conservatives who don’t get the hint after (1) and (2).
If you can’t silence them, then intimidate them; and if you can’t intimidate them, then criminalize them. The handwriting on the wall is already plain to see.
Spurius Ligustinus on October 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM
…don’t look into the decline of the US…look forward with a bit of anger to what is rising. The Sixties gave birth to what is turning out to be two generations of muddle-headed academics, feel-good politicians, and worthless “celebrities”…and “causes” galore…that is giving rise to a disconnection, patiently worked, from our history, traditions, and constitional protections from intrusion by the likes of Ms. Jones-Kelly.
…these folks are actually making the black helicopter types seem prescient! For that alone they need to be thwarted.
One party rule…a charismatic leader with no history of actual achievement…and a legion of acolytes, willing to do anything to support “change”….
…Germany…1933….
Puritan1648 on October 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM
By the way, anyone who has worked in the public sector where personal information is available by computer can tell you that you are trained precisely to keep your filthy hands off private look-ups.
It’s not a small item in the employee handbook, either. It’s in your face, firmly and with shock and awe: don’t even think about private look-ups or you will be fired and prosecuted. And you’re taught to refrain from even thinking you can get away with it. The IT department audits the usage trails of every employee for appropriate use.
I’m saying this dirtbag knows the severity of what she did.
But as a democrat, she simply gave us the finger and did it anyway.
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Well, now Helen Jones-Kelley has sudden public notoriety… start digging!
fehuq on October 28, 2008 at 12:13 PM
let’s all start Goose Stepping behind ADOLPH OBAMA….1, 2, 3 1, 2, 3
SDarchitect on October 28, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Black democrat woman. No surprise.
Wade on October 28, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Absolute moral authority.
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM
I know I am going to sound nuts here but the state, filled by and for a huge liberal agenda, will go after anyone and anything that goes after it. And that my friends, is tyranny.
Ask liberals that you know the following question. Is it more important that Obama wins this election, or more important that every legal vote is counted, each dollar contributed is done so legally and ethically? Or do the ends justify the means?
Liberals don’t care about the legalities of what they are doing – they are right and their agenda must win.
This story is the tip of many icebergs to come. And there is nothing that can stop it once The One is in power.
JeffinOrlando on October 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Perhaps you’re right, but then they only had bladed weapons and rudimentary firearms – this time it could happen with far more destructive firepower in the hands of the barbarians.
kelly Tejera on October 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Even if she didn’t get caught invading citizen’s privacy for partisan reasons, that is one job where I wouldn’t think it wise to put an e-mail address out.highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:04 PM
I agree entirely. I mentioned the absence of an e-mail address to save people the trouble of trying to hunt one down–at least on that page.
But, again, you’re right. She’d probably have an in-box of 500 new messages a day–that is, before she decided to go snooping into Joe W.’s affairs.
By the way, one rationale I read is that this department checks on lottery winners. Well, okay, that involves a financial windfall, and it makes perfect sense to do so. I’m failing to understand how asking Obama a pointed question and, in turn, becoming the focus of a presidential debate leads to the conclusion that he’s immediately come into a financial windfall.
This woman’s office and personal phone records should be subpoenaed and analyzed immediately.
BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Now to use your position of power to snoop on a private citizen for political purpose and then to lie outright about it. Well does that not make you somewhat erm…EVIL?
ronsfi on October 28, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Anybody, can sue anybody, for any reason, in this country.
HELLO…. you didn’t know that….!?!
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Got that right.
How ’bout it. Paybacks are a bitch!
BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Also, the $2,300 amount on her campaign contribution to Obama is the maximum amount by law.
This suggests an elevated likelihood that she’s an insider.
I bet there are are mere 2 degrees of separation between her and The One.
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Access to “confidential” government data bases and the complicity of the MSM is one powerful weapon.
The future doesn’t look bright.
forest on October 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM
We need to know more about this woman! I demand to see her personal records, who do I need to ask?
d1carter on October 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Good luck firing a black state employee.
One of Rev Wright’s minions I presume?
Hening on October 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Betcha the next story is about the “death threats” she received from all of us right-wing kooks who emailed her office.
rockmom on October 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I was told in the military that I couldn’t sue the government. Don’t know if it’s true. I do know that Timothy McViegh (no not Oklahoma City bomber … I’m talking about the Gay Submariner that got booted from the Navy) … Tim McViegh (I thought) got a lot of money from the government for violating his privacy supposedly. Never figured out how he did it though.
HondaV65 on October 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM
“When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded”
“Francisco’s Money Speech”, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand 1957
kelly Tejera on October 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Unless your Berg trying to get Obama to produce a Birch Certificate… then you don’t have “standing”…
Or are a political campaign trying to get the Attorney General of a state to enforce voter fraud law, then again, you don’t have “standing”….
Also, State and Federal Employees cannot usualy be sued for anything they do while doing their JOB… it is left up to the Government to police those actions…
So, no, Joe probably can’t sue.
Romeo13 on October 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Why would you be so nasty to someone who asks a question, that the simplest of minds would understand?
justdianne was asking, without taking a huge amount of time, is their legal standing to file a lawsuit? Is there precedent, are there statuary laws that were broken, was there policy broken?
See how easy it is to try to understand?
She said, in one sentence, what I needed paragraphs to explain to you…try to comprehend next time.
HELLO, you didn’t understand that?
right2bright on October 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Thanks Buckeye. Sorry about the wrong info.
ErinF on October 28, 2008 at 12:32 PM
So long as Jones-Kelley can prove that there was no political motivation involved, she’s in the clear. In this case that would mean proving that her office made it a practice to check on any Ohioan who appeared in the media for any reason. Not just Joe the Plumber but everyone. Men and women. Joe’s lawyer should be in court this afternoon getting a court order that Jones-Kelley must protect her official and private phone records, e-mails, and electronic messaging pending further investigation. After all, Detroit got a new mayor because of his text messaging problems.
Seriously, this woman should be fired and that’s only going to happen if Ohioans storm the phone lines to the Governor and their elected representatives demanding this evil vile women be taken down for her unethical (at best) behavior.
Do you really want this amoral woman dealing with the welfare of children?
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:33 PM
See mcguyver, how easy it is, and how really complex the statement by justdianne actually was?
That is why you need to read these posts, it will help you learn.
HELLO, do you understand now?
right2bright on October 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Answer: With Fitzgerald’s brains, Hillary’s balls, Petraus’s foot….. and McCain’s veto pen.
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I have the right 2 be bright and therefore I AM what I am, which is brilliant.
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Nixon got busted for standing up for his guys who got caught playing the game the way it was played. It has been downhill ever since. Democrats are proving they can committ felonies and get a shrug from the electorate and press.
The only thing that is likely to remove this stain is a borderline revolution and I don’t see that happening in an environment where the average voter is being taught to dissent from Bambi’s Sermon to the Mounted is “racism”….
from a guy who is half from a 93% voting block.
sven10077 on October 28, 2008 at 12:39 PM
You can’t sue the military while in uniform because of the oath you took. That doesn’t mean your family can’t sue or that you can’t sue after you’re no longer in uniform. The family of that sailor wrongly accused of the USS Iowa’s explosion, for example, sued the Navy.
If it is the case I’m thinking of, that gay submariner got money because his name leaked out in the press by somebody’s loose lips in Navy so it was a violation of privacy. Horror of horrors that the guy was willing to declare his sexual orientation to the Navy but wanted to stay in the closet for everybody else. He was out of the military by the time that happened.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Hey idiots…..
The question was, can Joe The Plumber sue?
The answer is yes, because he lives in the U.S. under the right to retribution.
Whether it will stand up, is for the judge to decide and not you right 2 be brights here.
Next question.
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM
That’s based on the idea that authorizing fishing expeditions for private information falls within the scope of her official duties.
It would be a lengthy and expensive process since the Governor is clearly onboard with committing fraud for Obama but Joe could always file a civil suit because his rights were violated. The state would have to prove that there was no malpractice and that this was a routine matter. Hard to do when the authorizing official is a maxed-out Obama contributor.
The real justice in this case comes from exposing Democrats for what they are, hounding this evil woman out of a position that affects the lives of children, and letting the world know precisely how far the left is willing to go to fix elections.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM
OK, so maybe when someone gets into the spotlight, little Miss Nosey routinely goes and has a look at their file.
Does Little Miss Nosey automatically take that information and feed it to the evening TV news?
Beep! Wrong answer…
Harry Schell on October 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I thought George Bush was supposed to be the one doing this stuff… I’m confused.
Riposte on October 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM
mcguyver,
When the courts are stacked with socialist-minded judges, do you really think Joe-the-plumber types have a remote chance of winning? Give me a break.
This situation does effect all of us who care about the country going irreparably left. We have a right to be aggrevated over this. If you don’t like it, leave.
ErinF on October 28, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Not being a lawyer, but… wouldn’t Joe’s real problem with Standing on this one be that he would have to proove “injury”?
Sounds like someone looked… but didn’t find anything to release… so no injury. My understanding from digging into the weird Berg v Obama case, is that with no prooveable injury, you do not have standing to sue…
Romeo13 on October 28, 2008 at 12:51 PM
see you next tuesday, Helen…
D2Boston on October 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM
YES!!! I guessed she’d be a black person.
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM
They are the Stasi they’ve been waiting for.
SlimyBill on October 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM
There are Federal privacy laws, and surely there must be privacy laws in that State as well.
It seems to me Joe’s Civil rights were violated.
If Joe does not have a right to sue, and no action is taken against an invasion of privacy on public records, what is the point of privacy laws?
When I worked in Federal Government, accessing someone’s file data without cause was a violation of Federal Privacy law and back then we were told there was 5 years in jail and a $50K fine. Employees were fired when a personal file printout was found in a wastebasket.
If a State decideds that investigating a citizen without cause to see if he has committed a crime is acceptable (and then leaking the data), what is the point of the Constitution and Bill of rights – wherein a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty?
I can only deduce that politely questioning a political candidate, after being approached by that candidate for a conversation, is now probable cause that the citizen must be investigated?
Does anyone think if Joe had spoken away from cameras or recording equipment that the State officials would have opened his files and leaked the data?
It is this State giving a pass to intimidating a citizen with private personal data supposedly protected by the State that leads me more and more to the grim conclusion we are in the last days of Empire.
It is not the debauchery and decadence, but the fact that laws are being selectively enforced at all levels, without a complaint from the press or half the public. This runs from Bush pretending we have no border and immigration laws when it suits him to the Ohio government pretending that public records may be selectively plundered and shared without cause for political reward.
When public officials participate in voter intimidation, and the press is silent, we no longer have a republic, we have Rome.
To everyone out there too young to remember the 1930’s, understand you are watching a re-run of the birth of the nazis, who grew in steps while public institutions remained moot because they agreed with the end game
entagor on October 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I’m not one either but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! ;-0
Seriously, this is America- everybody’s a victim! Joe can claim his reputation was irrevocably injured when it became public that the state was checking into his child support payments. Because of Jones-Kelly’s search outside of her official authority, the whole world will think that Joe the Plumber is Joe the deadbeat. The state caused harm and they should pay.
Whether all that would hold up or not at trial I can’t say, in large part because it has yet to be determined just how far Jones-Kelly went outside the ethical and legal bounds of her position.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 1:02 PM
During the Watergate mess, didn’t someone go to jail for checking into someone’s records?
duggersd on October 28, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Yes and I know something about Evil
Dr Evil on October 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM
From the “self-interest first, country later” files, Pam Meister of Pajamas Media posted this nugget today about the Palin bashers’ agenda.
Terrie on October 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM
THIS story is why we must begin taking things back from the ground up. No AG or Governor or Legislator must be controlled by the Dems like OH has. From town counsels to sheriffs to dog catcher; we must retake control of every governmental job out there, or the infestation of this type of Dem will surely destroy our lives on a local level. And someone like Reid, Pelosi or Obama will be what pushes us over nationally.
Seeing stuff like this just make me believe that not only can Obama not win because of the House and Senate being stacked with radical Democrats, but because each state is stacked with radical Democrats.
No offense to you sane Democrats. Even though I rarely agree with you; we miss all of you. You at least knew what real danger looked like when it threatened you country! Where are the Zell Millers of the DNC? Best wishes in getting your party back from the Marxists!
freeus on October 28, 2008 at 1:15 PM
The real question is:
a) do those liberal judges have a chance in the hell that is up next when Obama loses this election and b) Home Depot runs out of “pitchforks and rope” purchased by 84% of our citizens who are against spreading the wealth around….
?
?
?
If your answer is a)……, and b)….., and c)…., but d)…. then…. BEEP (wrong answer)!!!
What most of you right-2-be-brights do not comprehend is the fact that, heretofore, the majority Democrat voting matrix, simply did not believe that their former “Zell Miller” politician is for spreading the wealth around!!
Most of them, up until this Obama exposure, have voted Democrat because they didn’t think their beloved, once-upon-a-time great party, is capable of doing, what WE (CONSERVATIVES) knew all along!!
THAT IS ALL CHANGING AS WE SPEAK.
I have “doubled up” on my Intrade.com position against Obama, precisely because my adamantly liberal friends, over the weekend told me.. to vote for McCain!!
Next idiot question, PLEASE!!
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 1:20 PM
freeus on October 28, 2008 at 1:15 PM,
Great minds think alike!
Two consecutive comment posts with the word Zell Miller in them!
And no, I didn’t read yours before posting mine! :)
Mcguyver on October 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Idaho, I think…
uncivilized on October 28, 2008 at 1:32 PM
…and these are the same a$$clowns who decry the Patriot Act.
MsUnderestimated on October 28, 2008 at 1:32 PM
When I see that picture, I see a new target (practice only) for shooting ranges around the Midwest–or at least in Ohio.
BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM
I’m still shaken up that McCain has run such a bad campaign that Montana is in play. Do they even have black people there???
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM
unions in Montana
badtothebone on October 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM
More good news out of the Buckeye State. Park Benches are now considered addresses.
Go Michigan!!!
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) – A federal judge in Ohio has ruled that counties must allow homeless voters to list park benches and other locations that aren’t buildings as their addresses.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM
And this is worse than the Patriot Act how? The current left is the biggest collection of lying, pussy thugs I have ever had the misfortune of sharing the same air with.
ClassicCon on October 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM
OH! That makes sense. One state, I think, where it will be interesting to see if the so-called “Bradley Effect” occurs. Michigan is another. The UAW and teacher’s unions are so strong I think Obama will still take the state but by a far narrower margin than the polls suggest.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Good God Man! Don’t you realize that under the Patriot Act they can find out what you check out with your library card??? All the Dems did to Joe the Plumber is check one system to see if he was a deadbeat dad, another to check if he had a criminal record, and a third to check out his driving record. But, of course, since they say there was no political motivation we should all take them at their word and rest certain that the vile Secretary of State who upheld ACORN’s “right” to register the seven dwarves at their home in Dayton will run a fair and fraud-free election.
Mark my words now. The Ohio results are going to be ugly this time around because nobody is taking this fraud thing seriously. Because of the partisanship of Governor Strickland, the actions of ACORN, a Secretary of State who is clearly using her office to stack the deck for Obama, and the actions of other public officials like Jones-Kelly…. Because of all this fraud and attempted tampering with the elections……
the GOP should be demanding that Ohio be treated like one would treat a third-world country holding its first election after decades of totalitarian rule. There should be independent observers brought in to oversee each and every polling place and there should be a cadre of individuals scrutinizing and eliminating any absentee ballot that does not correspond to a valid voter.
highhopes on October 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM
I wonder if they ever checked Kwasi Mfume for back child support? I guess not.
gbear on October 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Or Jessie Jackson?
right2bright on October 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Well I’m sure that the ACLU will be anxious to take this case on to defend Joe’s right to speak in America!!
/SARC>
landlines on October 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM
The first word tells you all you need to know…these people are shameless.
Richard Romano on October 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM
When the law isn’t enforced, is that society lawful?
jeff_from_mpls on October 28, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Wow.
apacalyps on October 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM
She looks like Barack with a bad wig.
Have they ever been seen together..???
Hmmmmmmmm…she’s really a black with a big butt…he’s an arab…ask his father…
areseaoh on October 28, 2008 at 3:30 PM
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