Indiana SecState: “Multiple criminal violations” involving ACORN

I called my Sec of State’s office here in NE and he was totally misinformed about Ohio’s situation. So I did some further reading, and it turns out that in Ohio everybody is supposed to show positive ID in order to vote. BUT a person can register to vote by giving the last 4 digits of their SS# and then vote just by giving those same 4 digits.

The county election boards are responsible for deciding which voters are/may be fraudulent. But even though she knows the SS# doesn’t match up, Brunner won’t release the SS and DMV records to the county boards so they can catch fraud.

So an ACORN man could register as Betty Boop under whatever 4 digits he wants, give those same 4 numbers to the poll workers, and vote – even if it’s obvious to all that he is not Betty Boop. The county election board would have no way of proving that Betty Boop wasn’t a man with those last 4 SS digits. If the real Betty Boop came in to vote later, I’m not sure what would happen.

AND even if a person registered with no identifying information, their name has to be on the voter rolls. If someone by that name comes in with no identifying information they have to be given a provisional ballot if they are willing to sign a statement that they are eligible to vote. Again, Brunner won’t give the county election boards the cross-checked info the election boards would need to carry out their job of verifying provisional ballots. So those people would be off scott-free, as long as nobody can prove that “Mickey Mouse” WASN’T eligible to vote. If they can prove he wasn’t eligible, then he could be prosecuted for election fraud. But he can’t be required to show any identification as long as he’s just getting a provisional ballot.

IOW, Brunner is making it so that someone with no other information than an alleged name can vote, and the county election board would be unable to prove the vote fraudulent. How, in this system, would you ever catch ACORN’s fraud? You could catch somebody trying to vote as somebody else perhaps. But that’s not what ACORN is up to, and Brunner knows it.

And this is in a state where fraud is supposed to be so hard because “positive ID is required of all voters” (except those who know their last 4 SS digits or file a provisional ballot that can never be thrown out).

The NE Sec of State’s office thought the OH Repulican party wanted the mismatched voter list for THEMSELVES – not for the county election boards.

And he basically said that if our elected officials screw us, we’re screwed. We can only do anything about it after we’ve already been screwed, when the damage is irreparable. He said for state offices, the candidate needs to sign a sworn statement that they are eligible for the office. But the presidency is different because what is voted on in the state ballot is not the candidate, but the ELECTORS. So the candidates don’t enter their names on the state ballots. The political parties do, and they are not required to verify eligibility. The only protection voters have is if they find out ON THEIR OWN and refuse to vote for somebody who is ineligible. Tough to do when we can’t have access to vital records – the only proof of eligibility or ineligibility. And when the media in charge of the documents we do have won’t put the info out there. So our Constitution is dependent on the MEDIA for its presidential eligibility requirements to be met.

I asked him if that means that media which fails to properly vet a candidate could be tried for treason. He said he couldn’t believe that the media would do such a thing. I told him I knew for a fact that they not only would, but HAVE. I told him I didn’t trust ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN as far as I could throw them, much less trust them with the integrity of The US Constitution on the line.

We’re screwed. People need to learn that our media is committing treason. Nobody in this country has standing to question our elected officials. The only power we have is the power of knowledge. Without a truthfully informed public, this is not democracy or a nation of laws – nor can it ever be as the Constitution is being interpreted even by the conservative judges.

justincase on October 27, 2008 at 3:15 PM

rockmom on October 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM

From what I could find about Kenya, Raila Odinga’s people knew they were losing so they threw out any observers in some areas and started coming up with the votes they needed (IIRC they had some places with more than 100% voting for Odinga) So then Kibaki’s people started doing the same thing and it ended up with everybody saying there was no way to know who really won. That’s when Odinga went to worst-case scenario and told his thugs to go on the rampage (as his campaign plan had prescribed in case he lost the election).

That didn’t happen here in 2000 but I think the stakes are even higher now than then, and I think the agitation among Blacks – who Ayers and Dohrn said in “Prairie Fire” was their main group to agitate – is higher because the guy Ayers groomed for the candidacy is Black.

Someone else said this could be the last week of normal American life. I don’t know the future, but I have a gnawing fear that it may come to that.

justincase on October 27, 2008 at 4:08 PM