Video: Palin talks clothes
posted at 4:58 pm on October 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
Jonathan Martin wonders why she’d broach this subject, thereby keeping it alive for another news cycle. The likely answer, per his colleague: Because she had nothing to do with the RNC clothes purchases and is boiling about what it’s done to her image.
[T]he final straw for Palin and her allies was the news that the campaign had reported spending $150,000 on her clothes, turning her, again, into the butt of late-night humor.
“She never even set foot in these stores,” the senior Republican said, noting Palin hadn’t realized the cost when the clothes were brought to her in her Minnesota hotel room.
“It’s completely out-of-control operatives,” said the close ally outside the campaign. “She has no responsibility for that. It’s incredibly frustrating for us and for her.”
McCain defended her this morning on MTP but doubtless he’d like to change the subject. Maybe tomorrow.
The video I really wanted to give you was of her warning Obama not to pop the champagne just yet — “You kinda get the feeling that the Obama campaign thinks this whole election process is just a formality” — but I can’t find it. If you see it somewhere, I’d be grateful for the tip. In lieu of that, you’ll find Hasselbeck’s intro of Palin today below. Exit quotation: “This is deliberately sexist.”
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LOL – yeah, damage. Over five million bucks for a styrofoam Roman playset, and you shrug at it. Palin dresses well and Republicans spend FAR less money on her wardrobe? Why, it’s a scandal!
Hypocritical in the extreme.
While I have no doubt you are acquainted with your share of “6 pack women”, you obviously have no clue about their politics.
They. Don’t. Care.
capitalist piglet on October 26, 2008 at 7:15 PM
You’re just saying that because you wrote them.
carbon_footprint on October 26, 2008 at 7:15 PM
While I have no doubt you are intimately acquainted with your share of
“6 packbeer kegwomen” men, you obviously have no clue about their politics.Fixed it, piglet.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:17 PM
And by the way Dave, I am a real 6 pack woman and what does not sit well with me is some idiot Democrat wearing a Tshirt that says Sarah Palin is a Cun*. Believe it or not that kind of thing is sexist, you backasswards neanderthal.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM
LOL – yeah, damage. Over five million bucks for a styrofoam Roman playset, and you shrug at it. Palin dresses well and Republicans spend FAR less money on her wardrobe? Why, it’s a scandal!
Hypocritical in the extreme.
While I have no doubt you are acquainted with your share of “6 pack women”, you obviously have no clue about their politics.
They. Don’t. Care.
capitalist piglet on October 26, 2008 at 7:15 PM
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Uh, no. Not hypocritical. The unwashed masses of America trying to make ends meet will feel a lot less annoyed over Obama buildig a stage for an audience of 70,000+ people than they will for a woman being dressed up to the tune of 150,000$.
Dave Rywall on October 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Obama and most Democrats don’t think it’s over. I have no clue what she is talking about.
mycowardice on October 26, 2008 at 7:19 PM
You know, Manly, I nearly used the word “intimately”, but then I had to admit to myself that I don’t really believe that about Drywall.
NTTAWWT.
capitalist piglet on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I’m thinking riots.
And if Obama wins, mass regret, as the truth about the economic crisis is revealed (because that will be everyone who’s thinkin’s full-time job) to be first and foremost a by-product of the idiotic Democrat fair housing policies originating with Jimmy Carter, perpetuated by Bill Clinton and totally supported by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the entire Black Caucus, among others. “Community reinvestment”, right.
We should all be the same…poor.
Moxie on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
You win general elections by doing two mundane things – secure the base and appeal to voters outside the base. McCain’s appeal to the independents and moderate left was his biggest asset. His appeal to the ‘base’ was limited.
He secured the ‘base’ by picking Palin. Subsequent to that, he should have re-targeted his message to undecided voters, but I think the Palin ‘uproar’ took him off track and put him on the defensive with independents and even moderate Republicans, and he has never pulled out of that.
He stands now in the polls exactly where he was in November of 2007, with lots of ups and downs of course in between, but having made no lasting progress. Obama has gained 6 points.
His biggest mistake since has been his ever deepening focus on issues near and dear to the base, not to the broader electorate. It’s not a good way to win.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
And by the way Dave, I am a real 6 pack woman and what does not sit well with me is some idiot Democrat wearing a Tshirt that says Sarah Palin is a Cun*. Believe it or not that kind of thing is sexist, you backasswards neanderthal.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM
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When did I ever say I approved of obnoxious as*hole women wearing C word T shirts? Show me where or stfu and stop assigning me your stupid little strawman retardedness.
Dave Rywall on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
And that’s why the polls are tightening, huh? ‘Cause Americans are outraged that Sarah Palin looks nice.
Cut the crap, will you?
capitalist piglet on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
The audience sat in the stadium seats. He was on the stage, for farking potted plant.
You gonna make that bet, Dave? C’mon tough guy.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Don’t worry. You’ve already been identified as “clueless.”
Blake on October 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Just a personal peeve of mine: too much of what we think we know about how people lived in the past only applies to the “rich and famous,” and a lot of little things now that many consider beyond the pal would have been common place among the commoners.
For instance, women wearing make-up and shaving their legs. Those can’t be more than a few centuries old, but people have gotten it into their heads that they define femininity.
Count to 10 on October 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Show me where or stfu and stop assigning me your stupid little strawman retardedness. – Dave Rywall on October 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Make the bet or STFU, Dave. C’mon…the polls are in your favor, right? Obama’s just gonna cruise in, right? So make the bet. If Obama wins, I leave Hot Air. When McCain wins, YOU leave Hot Air. Whaddya say, tough guy?
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:23 PM
The truth is that Palin and her family don’t have a lot of money. That means Palin probably buys her suits at lower end stores like Kohl’s or Macy’s or whatnot. But when you are traveling all the time and you’re on TV, you need a suit that: (i) fits properly, (ii) hangs well, and (iii) doesn’t wrinkle up after sitting on a bus or airplane seat for 4 hours. Hence, the need for higher end fashion from Neiman Marcus. Rest assured that the Obamas and Joe Biden buy their clothes from Neiman and retailers like it, too.
The draw of middle class women to Palin is that Palin is “one of them,” but at the same time, is a serious politician who you can trust. So, she connects with “the gals” but is not one of them. The problem is that the media has successfully portrayed her as a right wing kook and has turned EVERY ONE of her positive attributes against her. She didn’t abort Trig = “right wing loon.” She hunts = “whack job that shoots things from a helicopter.” She was in a pageant when she was 16 years old = Tina Fey playing the flute and “pageant walking” in a press conference. The list goes on.
I will never forgive McCain for throwing Palin into that line of fire with no preparation. Palin is one of about 3 true rising stars in the GOP ranks, and she’s now been so irreparably harmed that she won’t be able to run in 2012. It’s absolutely disgusting. That woman should have been going through media training back in July if she was seriously in contention for the VP choice. You don’t just pluck her out of Alaska and throw her to the wolves on 2 days’ notice — and that’s what McCain did to her.
Outlander on October 26, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Sorry to bear bad news, but to me (and probably any other normal American male) they DO define at least a part of what it means to be feminine.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:25 PM
While were taking a poll,I’m not wearing my wedding
ring either!
And yes,I’m stll happily married!
And yes I’m in the family home!
Now,i will sit quitely,sh#tting my pants,in a cold sweat,
and wait for Gawd’s retribution,to smite me down,like
a He#ll-fire with my name on it!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahahha.
canopfor on October 26, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Daggit,another glitch,thats I’m still,not stll,
me thinks thats an omen,for sumpin bad comin!
canopfor on October 26, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I couldn’t find “explect” either. But I still like you, Manly. You’re doing a fine job on this thread. If your predictions come through, Rywall will be treated in my ward.
csdeven, Tom Brokow brought up the 41 years ago shooting down of McCain. It was very moving, for those who feel, anyway.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:27 PM
The truth is that Palin and her family don’t have a lot of money.
Outlander on October 26, 2008 at 7:25 PM
———
166,000 in 2007
128,000 in 2006
(FIled late both years)
Lots of expenses covered that non-governor people would have to pay for, so their true income would be higher than either of these.
That’s pretty good cake.
Dave Rywall on October 26, 2008 at 7:28 PM
You are taking this harder than she has. Water under the bridge. It was her baptism of fire on the national stage and she pulled through with a only singe here and there. And in Alaska she was no babe in the woods.
The political landscape in Alaska is littered with the corpses of those who underestimated her. That’s why she’s the Arctic Fox.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Dave:
Oh, I don’t know you seemed to think that American women {the same ones who love billionare Oprah and her million dollar wardrobe} are going to be mortally offended by Palin’s wardrobe….not silly stuff like being called obscene names.
I have seen more sexism in this election than I have seen in years in this country. If Palin was a man no one would care how much the suits cost. Obama is absolutely legendary for raising and spending money on himself. If he had spent some of that campaign money on some soup kitchens bottom feeding little hypocrites like you might have room to talk.
No one cares about this issue, except the press. Fraud on the part of the Obama fundraisers is no big deal, Palin’s wardrobe is. Stupid.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Well, if we’re going to discuss something this stupid instead of the fact that we could have unbridled, unchecked welfare spending by the Pelosi/Reid/Frank show, then we should at least update the story:
Palin has already denounced the RNC for not telling her the cost of the clothes when they brought them to her in Minn. hotel room. She’s donated them all to charity and is only wearing clothes from her favorite store in Anchorage from now on.
That’s more than Obama has done with Ayers, Wright (until personally embarrassed), and ACORN. Talk about standing up to your own party!!
Moxie on October 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Perhaps by your “unibomber cabin in the woods” standard. You gonna make that bet or what?
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Even though McCain was one of my least desirable Rep candidates in the primary, I find myself thinking these days that perhaps God’s omniscient will was done. Without McCain, it is highly unlikely we would have gotten Palin. The immense potential for revitalizing and focusing the conservative movement that Sarah Palin represents is clearly corroborated by the sheer fear and hatred that the left and the MSM are directing towards her.
neuquenguy on October 26, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Why are you here?
Glynn on October 26, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Dave:
Pretty good cake? Let’s compare that to the $4 million Barry made. Stupid.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
By anybody’s standards, that’s living very comfortably.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
You neglected to check the Scrabble dictionary. Neener, neener.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
You’re right with “at least in part” – shaving legs does. The make up is useful only when it’s needed. Otherwise, why bother? The natural is always most beautiful. But I’m not a man and might be totally wrong.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Pay a visit to the Tri-State area sometime and you’ll get a much needed education.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:34 PM
How hard are you laughing, dude? I know you’re kidding us with that comment. She’s the only one in this race who isn’t a MILLIONARE.
Moxie on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
You are not a man. And, yes, you are totally wrong.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
trailboss:
So? Palin is Governor of Alaska, Governors get paid pretty well. Not as well as US Senators of course.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Thats pretty good cake.
Dave Rywall on Oct 26,2008 at 7:28PM.
Dave Rywall: Ladies and gentlemen I give you exihbit’A'!
Nice smokin gun you got Dave,proof that all
Liberals have nothing else better to do then
snoop on people!
No wonder Liberals can’t get anything done,
they’ve got their nose up everybody else’s
lifes!
Talk about spying,and they have the audacity
to blame President Bush!
Great Dave,now your spying on an American!
canopfor on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
I see you’ve gone frothy on us, Dave. I’m very disappointed. I expected better of you. No matter- pray allow me to answer you.
1)So because Palin doesn’t own the clothes it was okay to spend $150,000 on them. Righttttt
You’re stepping into some weird territory here, Dave. See, the Barackopolos cost, what was it, $5.3M and change to build, for a 45 minute speech that was quickly forgotten. That was on top of the money spent by the DNC for the convention. Which, by the way, Dave, I didn’t have a problem with. Perfectly legitimate that the DNC will want to look the best it can for that week. Barry doesn’t own those columns, much a Sarah doesn’t own those clothes. The clothes will have a life after the election- they will have some use. Hell, they might even be able to help fight global warming because they will not induce more wear and tear on Gaia. On the other hand, Dave, styrofoam Greek columns have very limited uses. Someone used a lot of carbon offsets to make those. Perhaps you can find a use for one up there in Canada, Dave?
2)SHE DOES NOT WHERE HER WEDDING RING AT ALL TIMES GOD WOULD NOT APPROVE
Couple of problems with this statement, Dave. Now, I’m going to go full disclosure here, Dave, and tell you I’m an athiest. That said, just who the hell are you to decide what God would and would not approve, Dave? Are you a member of the clergy? Have some sort of special dispensation? Maybe you think you’re Christ’s long-lost 158th cousin? As for the wedding ring, Dave, Sarah described why she had it in her pocket. Oh- and lastly, Dave, you need to post calmly. The word I believe you were looking for was ‘wear’, not ‘where’. Posting in a frothy rage causes idiot mistakes like that.
BillH on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Manly, do you multi-task Scrabble with HA commenting?
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Pretty good cake? Let’s compare that to the $4 million Barry made. Stupid.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:33 PM
——-
Someone claimed the Palins didn’t have a lot of money. I pointed out they kind of did based on their income tax returns.
That Obama has more money than the Palins is entirely irrelevant to the topic at hand, Princess Genius.
Dave Rywall on October 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM
He’s grasping at straws. I diagnose acute and terminal Palin Derangement Syndrome. There is no hope.
Glynn on October 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM
You are beginning to see the picture, Grasshopper.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM
He got the base excited with Palin while scaring the moderates and independents away as they concluded that it was risky to have a lady a “heartbeat away” from the POTUS who couldnt describe what paper(s) she reads to keep on current events.
I dont blame Palin…I blame McCain. They should not have picked her and they mismanaged her once she was picked. And, yes, I am one of those who now believes that she is now running for 2012. She wont get the nomination though. The base may like her but the rest of the country think she is a female Dan Quayle which is unfortunate…..Quayle was never that dumb or inexperienced…HE got a bad rap.
Roger Waters on October 26, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Yuppers. And, if it makes you happy, I’ll even shave MY legs.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM
$130 – $170k, plus all travel, many meals, paid by the state on top of the guv’s salary. Pretty comfortable. Ok, maybe not by tri-state standards, but just about anywhere else.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM
I will be honest with you. I make less money in a year than Obama spends to send his two girls to private schools. He is a great believer in public education, but there is no way his little princesses are going to go to school with the peasants.
I do believe that Palin’s kids actually go to regular school.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM
California and Massachusetts also come to mind.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:38 PM
trailboss:
You could combine Palin’s income with Biden’s income and McCain’s income and it would be about 1/4 of Obama’s income. For a guy who hates capitalism he has done all right for himself.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Blah, blah. Make the bet, bigmouth.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:39 PM
With respect, only to those in the media and pal around together, and joke at the cocktail parties because they have no defense for what a true, strong, capable, intelligent, well spoken, Conservative American Woman is.
When they get petty, and SNL and the late night guys use her as the butt of a joke, you have no idea how it pisses off the masses, men and women alike, just like they did to “Joe the Plumber”, just like they have done to President Bush. It only shows their contempt to the working families of this nation, and their elitism is shown as a big fat boil on the tip of their noses.
When the media conducts a poll, over loads it with Democrats, screws the results further, then reports it as news……… all the while trying to tear down a Vice Presidential candidate for the United States of America for the price of clothes, while hiding the true cause of our economic crisis and the Democratic policies and politicians who caused it……………… you know they are worried.
Seven Percent Solution on October 26, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Because Dave likes to be tortured.
Only for swimming competitions. Otherwise it wouldn’t be very manly.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:40 PM
YOU were the one who raised the topic, dummy. Make the bet or STFU.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:40 PM
It was at the convention, IIRC, that she said that her children do go to public schools.
And yes, the amount the Palins make per year is pretty comfortable most places in the US, and very rich by average world standards. It’s also nowhere near what the rest of the millionaires on the tickets have. So…to criticize her for what her family makes without comparison to others in comparable circumstances is disingenuous.
inviolet on October 26, 2008 at 7:41 PM
So? The question at hand concerns the Palins financial status, and they make pretty good scratch at somewhere around $150 k annually, plus property and interests in businesses. Definitely upper middle income. Quite comfortable.
Senators make five to ten times as much as they are worth.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:41 PM
I have seen the lefts version of au natural and it’s not pretty.
Kini on October 26, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Roger:
Wrong again. The people who are really put off by Palin are the elitist conservatives like Frum and Noonan and other self described luminaries. I have been told by people on HA that I am not conservative enough and I really like and respect Palin. She seems genuine to me. It was the pundits who did not like her.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:41 PM
I bet that Rywall will cry on Nov. 05.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Stupid…
Terrye on Oct 26,2008 at 7:33PM.
Terrye:I’m trying to be helpful!
Don’t forget Obama’s shiny new house,at a rate
lower than the average American!
And Rev.Wrights new shiny palace too!:)
canopfor on October 26, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Even there, MR.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM
trailboss:
Of course they makes pretty good money, she is Governor.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM
canopfor:
I saw Wright’s new house, it looks like a public building, it is huge.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I don’t know, she would have done the same things for Rudy as she does for McCain.
Count to 10 on October 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I am very surprised by these figures. She is grossly underpaid. Most middle managers in the high-tech industry are in that range, and they are managing 50-200 people not 10,000.
neuquenguy on October 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Kini, I’ve seen them too, and I know what you mean. Been in enough subways in Europe…I don’t mean that. I meant strictly on unnecessary makeup. But you guys can have the argument if you like all that paste, even if it’s not necessary.
Btw, Manly, Kini lives in Hawaii – thus the late night drink raised to you. Also, Kini has a great link to his name, which depicts the paradise he lives in.
Back to topic, lest we all get banned.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM
By shaving, I would only change my swimming appearance from walrus to manatee. Not a pretty picture.
*tugs at collar and channels Dangerfield*
Are kidding me? Heh…my wife sewed an American flag on my bathing suit so the Coast Guard wouldn’t open fire by mistake. I’m tellin ya, no respect. I lay in the sun on the beach and my kid take cover in the shade I create. I asked them to bury me in the sand and wife rented a front-loader. No respect.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Count to 10:
But would Rudy have picked her? I don’t think so.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM
I don’t like this bet — I just joined and you might leave, no please, I think you’re funny.
But, I am curious to see if he will man up…
Moxie on October 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Let’s be more specific, shall we?
2000—$240,505 (tax int—$38; divs—$0)
2001—$272,759 (tax int—$0; divs—$0)
2002—$259,394 (tax int—$34; divs—$0)
2003—$238,327 (tax int—$0; divs—$0)
2004—$207,647 (tax int—$0; divs—$0)
2005—$1,655,106 (tax int—$13,385; divs—$2,754)
2006—$983,826 (tax int—$4,590; divs—$1,188)
2007—$4,139,965 (tax int—$1,442; tax-ex int—$45,851; divs—$0)
BTW: In 2004, Michelle’s hospital salary was $121,910. Obama was sworn into the U.S. Senate in early 2005, the year in which Michelle’s hospital salary increased to $316,962. And in 2006, Obama directed a $1 million earmark back to Michelle’s hospital. Slam dunk outrageous conflict of interest. Crickets from the media.
And can anyone explain why Obama paid Rezko’s wife $104,500 for a slice of an adjacent lot, which he had appraised at $40,500? What was that $64,000 gift for? And has Obama reported that gift on a federal gift tax return yet?
BuckeyeSam on October 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM
I know McCain going to win, the reason I know is anytime there is a discussion about Palin the trolls come out in droves. They are so afraid of her. Why be afraid if you are going to win in a landslide. :)
djohn669 on October 26, 2008 at 7:46 PM
*shudders* Amen…I’ll drink (heavily) to that.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Don’t bring in McCain, with his 7 homes and $10,000 bbq grill. And his wealthy wife. It might skew the results a bit.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:47 PM
McCain will win. Obama will lose. Roger and Dave will chicken out because neither has balls.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:47 PM
This guy seriously needs to get the boot from here.
True_King on October 26, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Don’t any of these people know anything about holding public office? This is peanuts…!!
Moxie on October 26, 2008 at 7:48 PM
<blockquoteUh, no. Not hypocritical. The unwashed masses of America trying to make ends meet will feel a lot less annoyed over Obama buildig a stage for an audience of 70,000+ people than they will for a woman being dressed up to the tune of 150,000$.
This reflects the way Obama does business:
He spent $5,000,000 for just over 70,000 people to see him in person for a few minutes.
The RNC spent $150,000 for way over 1,000,000 people to see her in person for several weeks.
Democrats ALWAYS spend more for less.
jawbone on October 26, 2008 at 7:49 PM
I don’t know about Alaska. In many parts of the country a family of 7 with that income has to watch their budget pretty closely, that is why I believe it when they say they shop at consignment stores and Walmart.
Why are we discussing this again?
neuquenguy on October 26, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Trouble is that he may come here to do it, since he isn’t man enough to take my bet. Sniveling little troll.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Has it? Only to the mini-minds. She didn’t spend the money — the RNC did. And we have in comparison a $450.00 lobster meal signed for by Michelle Obama herself. She certainly knew the cost of her food even if she isn’t the ultimate payer — it wasn’t brought to her without a price tag like Sarah Palin’s clothes were.
$450 is easily a month’s worth of food to me and my family, and Michelle Obama eats it in ONE MEAL. That’s incredible.
And don’t tell me that Michelle is going to regurgitate it and sell it for charity as the RNC is required by law to do for Palin’s clothes. It won’t fly even here in California.
unclesmrgol on October 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM
trailboss:
I am talking about what McCain makes, his wife’s money is her money and would be her money whether McCain were in the picture or not.
McCain makes about $380,000 a year and gives more to charity than Obama does who makes $4 million. The guy who gives the least to charity is Biden.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Nah…I dont know about that. Frum and Noonan were getting pretty slippery during the last couple years of Bush’s presidency and certainly during the primary process. Noonan was saying that Obama was a rational presidential choice way back before Palin was ever thought of.
The real story there is the so called moderates who helped convince the republican party to not elect somebody who will not encompasse the big tent theory. They said John McCain was the guy to bring in independents…like he did in New Hampshire. And then when McCain got the nomination, they fled for Obama. Dont listen to moderates…they dont believe in anything.
The party screwed itself by allowing McCain to screw them. McCain has been screwing conservatives for 15 years. He screwed us in the nomination process, will screw us by being incompetent in the general election, and will go back to the senate in an environment where he will flourish at his favorite pasttime of reaching across the aisle and screwing conservatives. dont blame me…I voted Romney.
Roger Waters on October 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Because it is one the myriad pet peeves of Douchebag Dave.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Yep, Manly is funny – don’t drink so heavily, Manly. We need you somewhat sober.
Dave R. and “man up” are contradictions.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Put up or shut up, bigmouth.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Anything a man can do is by definition not feminine.
No matter how dressed up he is, a man in drag is still a man in drag.
Ergo, make-up and shaved legs (and other parts of the body) are not feminine.
…and I prefer women au natural. Clean, but au natural.
Count to 10 on October 26, 2008 at 7:52 PM
And for crissakes don’t forget that Todd Palin has two or more jobs. Factor in the fact that Alaska has the highest cost of living in the US.
carbon_footprint on October 26, 2008 at 7:52 PM
WTF does that mean?
Roger Waters on October 26, 2008 at 7:53 PM
“Only Manly can be manly…and vice-versa” – Manly Rash
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Like most political leaders, she doesn’t actually manage the workforce in Alaska, she relies on the dept heads to do that. The DOT director in our state makes about the same $, and has 15,000 employees.
By these standards, of course, the Prez is way underpaid at only 450 k, since he oversees 3 million employees.
trailboss on October 26, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Roger:
McCain did not screw anyone. If Republicans wanted to vote for someone else, they could have. I am so tired of the cry babies who blame everyone else for the fact that they can not get it together.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Time for the violins for the continuation
theme of this thread that has runith* amuckith*!
*(canopfor deeply regrets the b#sterdization
of some spelling!)haha.
canopfor on October 26, 2008 at 7:56 PM
* Correct.
* Also Correct.
* correct.
* And finally .. correct.
wise_man on October 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I didn’t think McCain would have, so who’s to say?
Count to 10 on October 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM
And Roger, it was McCain who the balls to put Palin on the ticket. Certain sore loser conservatives can whine that he is not conservative enough, that he does not kiss their asses often enough, but the truth is he is the one who the put the Conservative woman on the ticket.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Roger Waters on October 26, 2008 at 7:58 PM
On the make-up, yes, if she doesn’t need it, but on the shaving, yak. You’ve obviously never been in a Parisian subway. Yak, again. None beat the American way in this regard. Sorry for the off topic.
Entelechy on October 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Count to 10:
I liked Rudy, but the purity people would not have tolerated him. I doubt if he would have picked her, he would probably have gone with someone like Romney. But who knows?
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM
*cue the opening notes of The Good, the Bad & the Ugly*
It means you are as full of sh!t as a Thanksgiving turkey. It means you blather and drool on and on like you actually know something. And the truth is, you don’t know much of anything except that you enjoy reading your words after you type them, much as Peggy Noonan likely masturbates to the sound of her own voice. I, for one, am weary of your idiotic logorrhea.
If you are so farking sure of yourself, then make the bet.
McCain wins, you leave. McCain loses, I leave. Come on, big mouth. Put up or shut up.
ManlyRash on October 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Roger:
And Romney lost so stop whining and grow up.
Terrye on October 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM
I am all for conservative women on the ticket. Huge Maggie Thatcher fan over here. I just prefer my conservative women to know what newspapers they read. I expect my conservative veeps to be smarter than my daughter who is currently in 8th grade.
Roger Waters on October 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM
I’m sorry, I don’t get the point. How is this different from CEOs or executives?.
In any case, all this is just as relevat as Michelle O feasting on lobster and caviar.
neuquenguy on October 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Well, no, I’ve never been to France.
But, either your nose was offended, and they have a problem with hygiene over there, or your eyes were offended, in which case you have an unhealthy aversion to hair.
Count to 10 on October 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM
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