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Wow, you were using the internet in 1991?

Yep, so was I. Compuserve. 300 baud was bitchin.

jero_jones on October 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM

My God you are a retard. You have been told, and not just by me, how credit card transactions are processed over the internet, and how that relates to 0bamas open to fraud system.

So you go and google a few related words and acronyms throw them up on the screen in an incoherent manner, thinking that you will impress people.

Yeah, data mining is a very powerful tool and can do everything you claim. I never denied that. But you apparently think that every damn internet transaction is analyzed like that? My guess is that you have been listening to a little too much George Noory. Did he recently do another program on Carnivore and Echelon? Or maybe even talk about even more recent investigative tools out of room 641a?

What you are talking about in that last heaping pile of idiocy is part of criminal investigations and anti terrorism… It isn’t done as a matter of course on every five dollar sale through toysrus or every five dollar donation on 0bama.com

And as usual you miss the entire point of this thread, despite having your nose rubbed in it many times. There are a few people here that are too stupid to argue with because logic and common sense is a completely foreign concept to them. Welcome to the top of that list.

He also pays extra attention to make sure he has photo’s of kissing hugging and being surrounded by whites, so obviously thats who he’s trying to impress. He’s got it with the blacks just because he’s black and they’ll tell you so. I am not saying it this as racist in anyway but to sort of quote Rush from last week, its not ‘racist’, but instead is race-related. If you dont believe me look at his news clips and you’ll see he’s got white middle-class males in the background of the shots and you’ll see him kissing and hugging white women [includig Hillary I might add]. Has anyone seen him in a crowd with blacks all over the place? no becuase its not the crowd he’s needing to sway.

I’m tellin ya the mans strategists know what they are doing, and he is a well-trained speaker and con man. There’s one secret weapon out there and its called the ’silent majority’ and they have a way of making up a lot of that 11% I mentioned earlier here. Like someone else said, he needs to b stopped now because once he’s in it will literally take an act of Congress to get him out and we hopefully won’t be fighting one or two more wars abroad at the time.

stonemeister on October 26, 2008 at 4:16 AM

Nah, that could never happen. The scenario for a direct to video Troma Team zombie flick would be more likely.

Oh wait. I vaguely remember something like that happening in real life.

But never in America, Right? Our press is so full of unbiased genuine investigative journalists that such a situation could never get off the ground. It could only happen in a third-world country full of illiterates, Right???

(do I need to add the sarcasm tag?)

S on October 26, 2008 at 3:35 AM

Here’s the scenario for a great comedy flick: A young marxist fraudster strings a series of scams together to run for the state legislature, wins, then parlays that to run for the Senate, wins, and immediately positions himself to run for President. Leveraging a willing press, he keeps his entire life history a secret, and runs for President with a campaign of high sounding generalities.

His opponent is a true hero, who sacrificed nearly 6 years of his life being tortured as a prisoner of war, and later on went on to a career in as a congressman and senator, working as a maverick to unselfishly represent all of America for over 25 years. The only tarnish to his record was, as a young congressman, being polite to an intimidating power broker who had asked for illegal favors, and who he tactfully turned down.

The scam artist actually leads all the polls by varying margins, even though none of his supporters has any idea of his accomplishments, if any. To top it off, this fraudster has admitted to using serious drugs, his only associations are with race-baiters, domestic terrorists, convicted racketeers, and the like. His running mate cannot speak a sentence without making major gaffes or telling lies.

I haven’t come up with an ending yet. I doubt if anyone would buy this cockamamie story anyway.

What would happen if Obama won, and after the election, it was discovered that Obama was NOT a US citizen, or some other fact disqualified him from running in the first place, or sitting as president? Would the info be suppressed, allowing Obama to be blackmailed by a foreign power, or would he be disqualified, causing riots in the streets?

I’m not kidding, I’d like to know.

stonemeister on October 25, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Well, it’d make one heck of a great film if made by someone not among the Liberal side (who’d ruin it with wrongly-placed heroics and ridicule of the actual heroes).

I once heard a story pitch about: “the Messiah returns to Earth and is later discovered to be an alien.”

Sorta’ what’s taking place today, with a few revisions to the story.

I apologize for overestimating how long I have been in business over the internet.

And since I didn’t get my first CC merchant account until about a year later (customers just mailed me checks or M.O.s before that), my first transaction handled completely over the internet was a mere 12 years ago. So it just SEEMS like 17 years to me.

I stand by the rest of my statements though.

Yes, website Domain names and IPs can be traced to a specific name and address, of owners, administrators and technical contacts although this data can be hidden or spoofed, as as long as the authorities don’t get interested in it, you ca get away with it.

USER IPs… those by individuals sitting at home donating to McCain or 0bama, or Toys’RUs online are generally not trackable any closer than city without a court order to the ISP. Even if you are on broadband at home and have a Static IP, there is no way to get name and address of individual users without either a court oder or the illegal collusion of a friend down at the ISP. And people on Dialup, (and even some on some DSL or broadband accounts) usually get a randomly assigned dynamic IP assigned when they log on, which will often change , be assigned to the next user once you disconnect from your ISP.

COOKIES reside on the individual users computer and can be erased in two mouse clicks. While they COULD be stored and correlated by IP by the websites SSI system, not everyone does it, and that information is never passed on to the credit card processor, unless it is a part of an investigation, after the fact.

Only transactions greater than $10,000 are given the sort of scrutiny that you claim as a mater of course.

And you still dance around the entire point of this whole thread:

0bama’s site is set up to make it very easy to facilitate fraudulent transactions and illegal donations. McCain’s is not.

NOW… You claim to be ‘in the industry’. OK, here is the deal. Give me the URL to some sort of internet site that you have access to the back end. I’ll go there, make a transaction under my Hot Air screen name. Then you can come back to this thread and tell everyone my real name and my official street address.

Unless you can do that, Sir, You are are not worth another moment’s thought by me or any other rational user of this site.

The Chinese government gave money to a Buddhist temple. The monks & nuns at the temple donated $50,000 to the DNC and were reimbursed by the temple.

The way Obama’s donation website is configured it’s almost as if it were designed specifically to allow a foreign government who wants Obama elected (Chavez, Iran) or rich individuals (George Soros) to funnel millions of dollars directly into his campaign.

The thing is that this would require prior knowledge that the donations would be made, if not, the Obama campaign would just be setting itself up for possible massive chargeback fees.

There are countries where roomfulls of people do nothing all day but play World of Warcraft, creating and advancing characters to later sell to U.S. players who don’t want to take the time to do it themselves. Is it really such a stretch to imagine similar rooms full of people making charges against thousands of pre-paid gift cards?