David Frum: Forget McCain and stop Obama by saving the Senate
posted at 6:20 pm on October 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Tough stuff, but conservative passions this year have always been more anti-Obama than pro-McCain (at least until Palin joined the ticket) so I’m curious what you guys think. Nate Silver, a lefty but one who usually plays it straight in his poll analyses, gives Maverick a five percent chance at this point and only then if he gives up on Pennsylvania and starts targeting New Hampshire and New Mexico. Compare that to the thin spreads in various Senate races (as compiled at Silver’s FiveThirtyEight site) that the GOP desperately needs to win to preserve the filibuster: Mitch McConnell, Saxby Chambliss, and Roger Wicker are all clinging to leads of just a few points while Norm Coleman, Liddy Dole, Gordon Smith, and Ted Stevens trail narrowly. Every last one of them’s an incumbent. If the RNC pulls the plug on McCain, they could shower those seven with cash for the last week and try to put them over the top. Or, alternatively, they could stick with Maverick and hope for the best. How lucky do you feel?
The stakes according to Frum:
First, with the financial meltdown, the federal government is now acquiring a huge ownership stake in the nation’s financial system. It will be immensely tempting to officeholders in Washington to use that stake for political ends — to reward friends and punish enemies. One-party government, of course, will intensify those temptations. And as the federal government succumbs, officeholders will become more and more comfortable holding that stake. The current urgency to liquidate the government’s position will subside. The United States needs Republicans and conservatives to monitor the way Democrats wield this extraordinary and dangerous new power — and to pressure them to surrender it as rapidly as feasible.
Second, the political culture of the Democratic Party has changed over the past decade. There’s a fierce new anger among many liberal Democrats, a more militant style and an angry intolerance of dissent and criticism. This is the culture of the left-wing blogosphere and MSNBC’s evening line-up — and soon, it will be the culture of important political institutions in Washington.
Unchecked, this angry new wing of the Democratic Party will seek to stifle opposition by changing the rules of the political game. Some will want to silence conservative talk radio by tightening regulation of the airwaves via the misleadingly named “fairness doctrine”; others may seek to police the activities of right-leaning think tanks by a stricter interpretation of what is tax-deductible and what is not.
The best bulwark for a nonpolitical finance system and a national culture of open debate will be the strongest possible Republican caucus in the Senate. And it is precisely that strength that is being cannibalized now by the flailing end of the McCain-Palin campaign.
He goes so far as to suggest that Senate candidates concede the likelihood of Obama’s victory and run on the sort of divided government platform McCain himself intends to push this week. Exit question: You’re the chairman of the RNC and your phone’s ringing off the hook with demands for money. What do you do? After you print up a few million copies of Treacher’s post and mail it to Republicans, I mean.
Update (Ed): What do I do? I do basic math. The Republicans are defending 23 seats in the Senate, and the Democrats 13. There’s no way on God’s green Earth that the GOP will have enough seats to block the Democratic agenda no matter how much the RNC spends; they’ll be lucky to get 43 seats, and they can’t spend the next two years filibustering everything if they plan to win seats back in 2010. They’re better off spending the money on McCain — his odds are much better than the Senate Republicans.
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I think David Frum should take his ego and his crap opinions and hit the road.
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:23 PM
… the guy’s biggest claim to fame is the “Axis of Evil” line from the 2002 SOTU… he’s hardly a strategist.
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Vote straight R and be sure.
Obama~ in your head you know he’s red.
profitsbeard on October 25, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Frum worked on Rudy’s campaign …. enough said about his stratamajizing abilities.
CanadianGuy on October 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Um, yeah, not much. Another Bushie who really is all talk and no substance.
Right, because he’s another beltwayer who WANTS to come out for Obama, but is to pussy to.
Editor on October 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
How about we go for all of the above with hopes get some or all of what we try for rather than bail on anything at all?
johnnyU on October 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
The senate’s lost.
The senate republicans, operating strictly on objecting to Obama, won’t help them either.
lorien1973 on October 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
What a stupid idea. McCain isn’t that far behind and any positive movement towards McCain will most likely assist in down ticket races. The truth is Frum and his ilk hate Palin and Conservatism in general (yes they do, Frum was one of those like Brooks calling for a ‘centrist’ Republican party).
JonPrichard on October 25, 2008 at 6:26 PM
On the contrary…he was correct. Nevertheless, he is a turncoat and will be dealt with after McCain wins the election.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:26 PM
I’m not buying the 5% chance stuff. I think McCain is in the lead.
BuckNutty on October 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM
What’s to save, besides tax and spenders?
Fletch54 on October 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM
The Democrats will not have a veto-proof majority.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Why not have this douche go on MSNBC and explain his proposals? Or with CBS?
He was briefly a favorite when his Palin-bashing volume was set to “high”.
Marcus on October 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Frum is writing in clear English the reality that is already evident in RNC and various Republican Senatorial ads. Over the next 10 days, reality will hit more and more people.
sanjeevn on October 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Sorry I would prefer to multi task and elect Sen. McCain and keep the Senate.
Cindy Munford on October 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Yup. He is. And you can expect even more nastiness from the Drive-By media in the next ten days.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Yep, he was correct about the Axis… but when he then turned around and farmed out his Bush-connections into writing a crap tell-all… well, that’s about when I stopped listening to him.
ManlyRash — you always seem very confident about election day… so am just curious if you might be one the inside of the McCain/Palin campaign?
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Terrie on October 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Where’s the RNSC on this? They have their own fundraising apparatus.
Buy Danish on October 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Frum’s become popular since he became known as a Palin hater.
On the Air
I’ll be appearing on the Larry King program tonight and the Colbert Report tomorrow, talking about the election and the ideas in Comeback.
CanadianGuy on October 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM
So, he thinks we can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? After all, according to research, we are happier and richer than the Democrats, so let’s all keep an upbeat attitude and put our money where our mouths are, so to speak — after we’ve kicked back our daily cup of cognac mixed with Scotch…
unclesmrgol on October 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM
And what happened to the RNC’s supposed $160 million ad buy to push McCain?
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Frum won’t be happy until Frum picks the candidate who follows Frum’s advice exclusively and only holds the positions Frum tells him to. Then the bloated wimp will fight for something instead of lying down on the highway and pretending to be roadkill.
I’ve never seen Frum and Junior Buckley together, BTW. Same with Frum and Peggy Noonan, for that matter.
MrScribbler on October 25, 2008 at 6:33 PM
For the record: I have no connection to the McCain/Palin campaign. I am not clairvoyant (whatever that means). I do not hear voices from God. I am not a brilliant political scientist like Michael Barone.
All I know is that McCain is going to win. I don’t know how I know this, but I know it - as surely as I know the sun will rise tomorrow. I cannot un-know it or forget it or pretend it is not there. It is what it is. You can believe me or not…doesn’t matter to me.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:35 PM
I didn’t know that but now that I know I am amused that he is talking.
Nowhere to be seen, nowhere to be found.
clemycali on October 25, 2008 at 6:36 PM
We can’t do both?
capitalist piglet on October 25, 2008 at 6:37 PM
I hope you’re right.
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Considering the handful of unreliable RINO senators that may vote w/the democrats after a “landslide” to preserve their hides, will we have enough votes to stop the dems anyway?
toliver on October 25, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Frum’s a tool.
AZCoyote on October 25, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Exactly both on point. Frum’s a dbag. Rudy’s campaign was an utter disaster, and Mac hired his campaign manager! Frum even said for Mac to take Rudy for VP b/c Rudy was a more SUBSTANTIAL person than Mac. The fact NRO has him speaks volumes about that mag.
Look, grasping at the senate is stupid. We’ve got Snowe, Collins, Specter at least. Not considering Coleman and/or G Smith. Also, the press and Obama is going to say that any GOP filibuster is PREVENTING CHANGE. These people don’t have a spine; at least a few GOP senators will capitulate.
IR-MN on October 25, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Great. Who on earth is running the RNC and when the hell can we get Michael Steele in there?
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM
FWIW…
http://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/interesting-tidbit-on-polls/
I doubt Rasmussen and the republican pollsters are in on a “concerted voter suppression effort”(sic) but if McCain pulls this election out then the media and pollsters will discredited forever…
BTW, isn’t McCain rich enough he could gamble with his own money? The headlines might not be nice but…
ninjapirate on October 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM
That rhetorical flourish from McCain is beyond annoying. He is the one who hasn’t been fighting. He’s the one who undercut Palin’s brilliant smackdown of Barack the community organizer by turning around and praising Obama for his wonderful work. He’s the one who refuses to use Jeremiah Wright. He’s the one who is doing a horrible job of linking Obama and Democrats to the housing fiasco. He’s the one who has not connected it to ACORN and thus to Obama. He’s the one who keeps blathering on about reaching across the aisle instead of exposing the socialist dems for the scum that they are. He should have promised to fight them tooth and nail, but instead he brags about his record of bi-partisanship, and tells us we have nothing to worry about if Barry is elected.
How can voters be expected to understand how dangerous Obama and the uber-leftist Dems are if he keeps sending them flowers?
We can only do so much as we watch, helplessly.
Buy Danish on October 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM
It’s a valid point, but I’d prefer to see an attempt at both. McCain needs to go for a 270 strategy that trims every ounce of fat possible from the campaign advertising. Don’t worry about defending NC. If Obama wins that he’s going to win the White House. Same story for a state like Missouri. If they trim the fat I think the RNC could have enough resources to defend the vulverable Senate seats.
OT: There’s a plane doing laps over Madison right now towing a gigantic O banner.
BadgerHawk on October 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM
The final link to Treacher was FANTASTIC.
I don’t usually get Treacher. (I know, that’s entirely my fault.) But this was great!
Thank you very much Treacher. You made Churchill proud.
JiangxiDad on October 25, 2008 at 6:41 PM
OK, so we pick a moderate (or a Frum-friendly) candidate who is primed to go down to an ignominious defeat UNTIL said candidate picks a conservative (read Frum-unfriendly) for Veep. Now we abandon said candidate in a tight race with many still undecided to concentrate on other tight races, right?
David & Kathleen Parker really need to just be honest and go to work at Atlantic.
tgibson1962 on October 25, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Good things, I’ll bet. Mr. Frum is realizing when we’re all in the “camps” we’re not forgetting the scum that collaborated to put us there. For now, he must get as many Conservatives collaborating with him as possible. Getting all to agree “all is lost for McCain” in the homestretch is a start.
Marcus on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
David Frum is an idiot. McCain is going to win the election.
He should just advise everyone to vote republican all the way.
Is that so hard to say Frum?
jencab on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Even if we had that Senate contingent, couldn’t the Democrats just go with the nuclear option? Go for broke with McCain.
Step #1 after this election is to clean out the RNC.
WisCon on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Back in the day I read Frum in the TO Sun. He was refreshing.
Today, here in cloudy America, not so much.
He’s become a moderate prognosticator.
Oh. Now he’s worried!? Too late buster! You are off the bus.
Frum is not a conservative - too self-absorbed.
Randy
williars on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Make sure you know your individual state’s rules. In some states a straight ticket vote doesn’t apply to the Presidential race, so you’d have to fill that one in too. I think it may not even apply to congressional votes in some states.
BadgerHawk on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Also, why is Allah even considering Nate Silver to be neutral. He doesn’t play it straight. I remember when Mac was leading in the polls and Nate had Mac’s chances at under 50%. The polls aren’t great, but if you believe Mac has a 5% chance, you might as well donate to Obama b/c if not, you’ll be on a list and not a good one.
IR-MN on October 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
The premise is wrong.
A divided govt? even if we keep 40 senate seats?
I wish.
There are too many squish, go-along-to-get-along republicans for my liking. With an almost even split in the Senate, what Demo insanity have the repubs stopped? Who passed the
BailoutSellout?As you are wont to link, AP, GAME OVER, MAN.
I think I’ll start drinking again.
VolMagic on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
bingo
brak on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Hope all you like if it makes you happy.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Just how effective such a Republican block will be depends on Obama’s margin of victory. If it’s a squeaker, a minority block can play obstructionist for two years and hope for allies in ‘10. If it’s a blowout, moderates among them aren’t likely to buck the tide.
I think the problem this year is the party, not the players.
We can’t throw Bush out, except symbolically, so Senators are next in line.
There’s also a potential irony here: The RNC pulls the plug on McCain to support Republican Senators. They end up going down, and McCain waltzes back to his Senate gig.
sanguine4 on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Off-topic but quasi-related… a couple weeks ago at work, the office lesbian and capital “L” liberal, thought it would be hilarious to show me this bash Palin site… what is it exactly that underachieving, overweight, Democrats hate so much about an accomplished, beautiful, Republican woman?… oh… yeah….. never mind.
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Exactly what part of being American says that we can only do one thing at a time? Lets multitask. I know I get to vote for a Congressman and a Senator, not to mention a bunch of local officials, not just the President. And I can do it all at once.
If conservatives focus on the principles and policies and then promote the people who champion them we can advocate for conservatism in every branch and level of government at the same time. The “best and brightest of us” tried to convince us that we can’t, and then they left to support Obama. Let Obama have them because I still have my principles and the American Dream without them.
Tim Pancoast on October 25, 2008 at 6:43 PM
It tells me Obama is a Paper Tiger, he is in real trouble, and that McCain has a chance in Pennsylvania, a very good chance.
Beware Trojans bearing gifts…keep your friends close, and your enemies closer;)
Dr Evil on October 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Why aren’t McCain’s chances, say 6%, or 4%, or maybe 7.25%. What a load. No one know what is going to happen. Someone may be right after the fact, but it wasn’t because they knew anything ahead of time. If it is so important to shore up New Mexico and New Hampshire, (two places Team McCain is spending precious face time anyway) why is he all over Penn.? Too late in the game for head fakes. If McCain flips Penn. he wins, simple as that. So it’s up to the rednecks and clingers to pull our ass out of the fire.
hestrold on October 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM
um….. I want to do both…
twoarmman on October 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM
He’s exactly right, and McCain should have conceded this race two weeks ago and focused his campaign on those states where Senate and House candidates are in particular trouble. If McCain truly wants to Put Country First, he’ll concede he screwed the pooch and focus on containing the damage from his mistake. But he won’t. I just hope the RNC has the stones to pull their money from McCain, and I hope that a 10 day push will make the difference in these down-ticket races.
Outlander on October 25, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Troll
hestrold on October 25, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Of course - abandon the presidential nominee to fire up voters about senate seats …
GENIUS!!
Frum must think the base doesn’t matter at all - pumping up ad $$$ for senate candidates will bring in more independents, etc. than it’ll cost you “base” voters who’ll be discouraged by the whole thing.
How bout this - pull money from the “safe” senate races (as in “we know we’ve won or lost this seat”) and send that money to the competitive races?
BD57 on October 25, 2008 at 6:48 PM
He’s exactly right, and McCain should have conceded this race two weeks ago and focused his campaign on those states where Senate and House candidates are in particular trouble. If McCain truly wants to Put Country First, he’ll concede he screwed the pooch and focus on containing the damage from his mistake. But he won’t. I just hope the RNC has the stones to pull their money from McCain, and I hope that a 10 day push will make the difference in these down-ticket races.
Outlander on October 25, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:48 PM
It bothers them that Sarah (a)gets laid regularly, (b) with her husband, who (c) is probably hung like a moose.
Next question.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 6:48 PM
I’ll tell you why I think McCain will win. I haven’t seen the left this frothy since 1972, and their froth then pissed off the Silent Majority big time. I’m THAT PISSED and more this time.
Patrick S on October 25, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Why can’t we do both?
We need a new crop of “elites”
Elizabetty on October 25, 2008 at 6:49 PM
As if people are going to vote for Republican Senators and Barack Obama. *rolls eyes*
Ronnie on October 25, 2008 at 6:50 PM
how come none of the Conservative Bloggers or Pundits have penned -typed - video taped. What IF Obama Loses Scenario..you know it might be helpful to have a little counter insurgency going on…a wistful muse, for the afternoon readers, where ever they look…What if I am Right What if Obama is a Paper Tiger. What if like every Liberal Biased Media Entity, the Right started it’s own Psychological campaign? You know just to be doing something to help the cause. Head Line: Messiah pulls up short out of the gate..that is for the horse race analogy. When has the Mainstream Media ever been WRONG about a Presidential Election or Polls, then you all could list them. I am spit balling but you get the idea.
Dr Evil on October 25, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Amen.
Onager on October 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Way to help a front runner finish fifth.
CanadianGuy on October 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM
I, for one, think that Jim Treacher should be hired by MM to blog here. Anyone else?
carbon_footprint on October 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM
1972 is way before my time, but what were the polls like in the lead-up?
Republican on October 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Why can’t we do both? Is it money?
Kat_Mo on October 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I have no ideea but in my humble opinion Michael Steele is the best man for the RNC chair.
Because nobody thinks at RNC.
clemycali on October 25, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I second that emotion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Next to Obama’s loss, the greatest day in America will be the day we give these despicable liars the boot, or door knob!
RINOS, WE ARE COMING FOR YOU NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freeus on October 25, 2008 at 6:56 PM
My sentiments exacly.
With a Congress whose approval ratings are in the gutter even without factoring in their approval of a bailout plan despised by a majority of voters …
With Democrats so sure they have already won they are coming out publicly with spending plans and new rules they are going to ram down our throats …
I find it hard to believe that some of them are not going to get a surprise from their constituents on Nov 4th.
DJ Dubya on October 25, 2008 at 6:57 PM
The Kos kids will see this and have myriad of threads on it alone. May it be so.
Phalin (I made the word up to rhyme), I mean Palin envy - they sure must possess it. You’re a funny creature.
November surprise. Hang in there Patrick. It has just begun, and it won’t be pretty.
Entelechy on October 25, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Mostly the lack of financial resources. McCain had to take public funding because his fundraising was abisimal. The base was not eager to contribute to the victory. I wonder although where are the independent conservative groups? They are nowhere to be seen too.
clemycali on October 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM
This stuff is getting old, people saying Mcain should do this or he should of done that, opinions are like a** holes everyone has one.
KBird on October 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Hey Frum you and the rest of the elite washington bunch of jerks like Buckley ,Barnes,Wells,Brooks,Hagell,Wills and Katt.Parker Kiss my big fat one.You bunch of pompuss know it all pond scum!!!!
thmcbb on October 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM
The pundits/media all assume that the 11% undecideds are a bunch of morons.
Entelechy on October 25, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Fortunately, the gray skies and barren trees of November will still yield opportunities for us to see true beauty.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM
That’s not a fair read of his point. His point is that the NRSC doesn’t have the money to buy gum.
paul006 on October 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Sorry, but if Americans want to capitulate to an all-hard-left Washington on November 4th, then I’m not going to go out of my way to try to stop them. I’ll simply do what I need to do to protect myself and my family, and go John Galt on everything else. Then I’ll just sit back and laugh over the next four years as everything falls apart.
It’s America’s choice.
The Lone Platypus on October 25, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Jerry Lewis once said that any true comedian is in greater need of comedy than his own audience.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Not either or. No! Both and. Take the White House! Take the Senate! Take the House!
Weight of Glory on October 25, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I guess the 11% haven’t decided if they’re racist yet.
Patrick S on October 25, 2008 at 7:04 PM
My experience, living in Ohio, is that a huge number of Obama supporters are people who believe Obama is much more centrist than he actually is. In short, they believe his rhetoric. I believe that’s true because (i) the media wants Obama to win and has allowed him free rein to define himself without criticism and (ii) McCain missed every opportunity he had to speak directly to the American people and expose Obama as a leftie.
But Congress is widely viewed as very liberal, and Congressional liberals are out in force talking about commie takeovers of health care and 401(k) plans, tax hikes, cutting defense spending 25%, and other extremely liberal things. So the theory is that the divided government argument is a way for moderate voters to hedge their bet on Obama.
It may be a good theory, it may be a bad theory, but what more can we do at this point? Things are extremely bleak and now time is up. The media won’t cover McCain positively and McCain has no money and no new advertising slots to run ads.
Outlander on October 25, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Hey, Entelechy is a true beauty in my eyes all year long.
Patrick S on October 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM
I would have thought those Bush tax cuts would translate into more attacks ads on Obama from evil rich white guys. But Obama and his 527s are going to outspend the right by a 3-1 margin this cycle.
BadgerHawk on October 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM
There are no more undecideds, any more than you are undecided even when you flip a coin. While it is in the air, you already know how you’ve decided and by the time it lands you are hoping it will confirm your decision.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM
He’ll be ‘dealt with’? I don’t think so. Not if its a free country.
aengus on October 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM
That’s because no rich white guy wants to give $2 million to a 527 to launch attack ads on Obama only to have McCain call him a racist when the MSM asks him about the campaign. That’s why.
CanadianGuy on October 25, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Stick with McCain-Palin! It would be foolish to give up on them.
Besides, I have not been that impressed by Senate Republicans. They ridiculed Boehner’s efforts on drilling and tried to come up with a “compromise” that we didn’t need when the House Republicans were strong and I missed what big accomplishment they had on the bailout bill.
If there were a viable strategy for gaining a lot of House seats by abandoning McCain-Palin… maybe. But, actually, since I think the polls are being manipulated, I am not sure what evidence would convince me to abandon McCain. It sends a really bad sign to the next Presidential nominee.
Sorry - not taking advice from this guy.
Y-not on October 25, 2008 at 7:09 PM
McCain flipped the bird to conservative issue groups, and those issue groups have flipped the bird back. Hence, the $15m ad campaign for T. Boone Pickens’ wind farms in Texas (which was a giant middle finger to McCain for slamming Pickens & friends re: the Swiftboat Vets) and how the American Issues Project ran out of money after one Ayers ad becuase McCain wouldn’t support it.
Outlander on October 25, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Yeah it’s a free country. And he will be dealt with. We are free not to subscribe to NRO or any one else who publishes his crap. Only leftards and marxists think free speech means we have to give our money to those who insult us.
Blake on October 25, 2008 at 7:09 PM
The RNC has never done a great job at the grassroots level - counting on religious conservatives and pro-life forces to do the local work. They should learn something from Sarah. Start a grassroots program to encourage conservatives to run at the local level. We need a farm team for state and US legislatures.
huckleberryfriend on October 25, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Sheesh. What’s with the writers at NRO?
They need to shake some of these bats out of their bellfry.
Lehosh on October 25, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Especially if it’s a free country.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Thanks, Patrick. Why be subtle and poetic when I can simply blurt it out?
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Yeah but in what way? I mean if you haven’t already unsubscribed to the drivel called National Review you need to get your head examined. If you have then what can be done about Frum? Letters to the Editor?
aengus on October 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Obama is like a vampire who wants to spread the blood around.
profitsbeard on October 25, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Always glad to help. Manly. :)
Patrick S on October 25, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I am not voting for anybody who voted for the bailout.
angelat0763 on October 25, 2008 at 7:15 PM
They’re not the only ones. Sick of being told by chumps that “we” don’t do this and while you’re bending over and spreading your cheeks apart, just be satisfied that you are better than them.
Blake on October 25, 2008 at 7:15 PM
The Senate compromise bill on drilling was a dumb move and the bailout bill was a stupidity in itself.
Good advice but I am not sure RNC is going to take it into consideration.
clemycali on October 25, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Yeeahhhhh!!! That’ll show ‘em. That’ll punish ‘em. You go, girl.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM
We must defeat Obama. No ifs ands or buts.
mindhacker on October 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM
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