How did people get dirt on Joe the Plumber?
posted at 10:44 am on October 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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How did so much information about Joe Wurzelbacher’s taxes and licensing get out to the public so quickly? Officials in Ohio want to know the answer. They apparently suspect that state and local government systems got exploited in order to attack Joe the Plumber:
State and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about “Joe the Plumber.”
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher became part of the national political lexicon Oct. 15 when Republican presidential candidate John McCain mentioned him frequently during his final debate with Democrat Barack Obama. …
Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate.
Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.
It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.
The accounts used to access the information at the BMV and tax records all came from government agencies. This information is only supposed to be accessed for legitimate investigations, not just for curiosity, and certainly not for political purposes. Who in these government offices would have wanted to investigate Wurzelbacher, and for what legitimate reason — within hours of a presidential debate in which he played a significant part?
Answer: no legitimate reason exists. This explains why so much dirt got thrown at Wurzelbacher so quickly. At least one person, and almost certainly more than one person, decided to rifle through government records to discredit Wurzelbacher. That explains how they knew about his brief association years ago with the Natural Law Party; someone must have gone through the voter-registration records.
Thanks to the Tanning Bed Media, the effort to smear Wurzelbacher worked. No one questioned how this information got out, or who might have been behind its publication. The media, which still hasn’t bothered to report on Barack Obama’s association with the quasi-socialist New Party in Chicago, happily printed all the dirt they could find on Wurzelbacher instead.
Thirty-five years ago, a group of Plumbers did the same kind of thing in a presidential election, and it changed American politics forever. This smells of the same kind of Nixonian tactics.
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No one is doing a damn thing. Obama can get away with murder and the MSM will ignore it or defend it.
I am most certain that Obama is behind this.
jencab on October 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM
You are right Ed, but the double standard is strong and these information theifs will not suffer for it at all. It is only a small sample of how power mad the left is, and how corrupt.
MikeA on October 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM
And the Tanning bed media is still strangely quiet about Michelle Obama’s relationship with Dohrn, and her role in sending Obambi’s mistress to Martinique.
To say nothing of allegations that Tim “Family values” Mahoney was trying to pimp his mistress to $$$ contributors or Barney Frank’s boyfried at Fannie Mae etc.
Too bad you can’t sue for journalistic malpractice, because that’s probably the only thing that will get them to change.
Iblis on October 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Typical…don’t like the message, assassinate the messenger.
coldwarrior on October 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM
The donks said when Bush passed the Patriot Act no private information would be safe. Turns out they were right.:)
a capella on October 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Wonder if Plungergate will get any national coverage…
Pianobuff on October 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Seditious traitors of the nation who don’t give a rats rear end about destroying those who stand in their way of gaing absolute power, that’s who. These people are extremely dangerous and are the same ones who complain about use of phone taps to get info on real terrorists. They themselves are terrorists and make the 2nd amendment loom bigger everyday as we see where and how this election is going.
wepeople on October 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
The usual,Dirty Rotten Filthy Liberal campaign tricks!
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM
No need to rely on lawsuits when the free market will accomplish the same end. Thus, has the New York Times’ stock been relegated to “junk bond” status. This election cycle is the last gasp of the dinosaur media. They refuse to adapt and as a result, like the creatures that preceded them eons ago, they will perish.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 10:58 AM
This is frightening. I predict that the next war will be against the left wing/communist media entities in this country.
rplat on October 25, 2008 at 10:58 AM
This reminds me of Al Gore who was making calls out of
the White House for campaign donations,and in particular,
the Buda Monk brown paper money donations!
Hence,
“There is no legal controlling authority!
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Instapundit:
Terrie on October 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Oops,should be brown paper bag money donations!Ugh!
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 11:01 AM
If these thugs get into office, they will do what all thugs do and go too far. My guess is that the media will turn on them eventually…it may take time, but it will happen. Presently, the media is compliant by choice…soon it will be compliant by threats, extortion, etc…that will turn things around.
They will never be on our side, but they will tire from being abused by the very people they hailed.
joepub on October 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Here you go. What is next thought police, or prison for talk against the government. Sheds a alittle light on REX 84. Search for yourself .
tengger on October 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM
What is it about Obama that attracts what appears to be the felons, the mis-fits, the extremists and the borderline mentally ill? His whole campaign is thick with them. I read a article about David Axelrod in the newest issue of Nat Rev. and even he sounds like a fanatic, albeit an intelligent and intuitive one. In passing though, that article also said that many of the people Axelrod has shepherded into office have been failures or close to it(Deval Patrick was mentioned). Personally, I think Obama is next on his failure list should he get in.
jeanie on October 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Welcome to Obamaworld.
JammieWearingFool on October 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM
This kind of garbage will just be business as usual in an Obama presidency.
Tommy_G on October 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Oh Boy,———————-remember the cat-iption fit
the left had about,the so-called spying of American
citizens,in the hunt for terrorists!
Me thinks,the Liberal Party are hypocrits!!
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Get used to it.
Everyone who dares question Osama Obama in future can look forward to this kind of treatment.
Doesn’t matter that this kind of behavior is against the law. So are many things Obama and his campaign have engaged in during the campaign.
Hope, as in “hope we don’t get caught.” Change, as in “we’ll change any law, regulation or moral tenet that restricts us.”
MrScribbler on October 25, 2008 at 11:08 AM
I’ve striven to leave my small piece of this country better than when I found it. I am not alone here, please don’t despair at this juncture–the bedrock is solid still.
What we’re witnessing is the eternal struggle necessary to preserve our political and social system, inarguably the best ever devised.
America as we dream of it WILL prevail.
irongrampa on October 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM
This kind of garbage will just be business as usual in an
Obama presidency.
Tommy_G on Oct 25,2008 at 11:05AM.
Tommy_G: Your right,and like ‘filegate’ with the Clintons!
Thats when Hillary had her FBI hit list on
Republicans!
Obama will be another 8 years of the Clintons!:)
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Does this mean their will soon be a Wikipedia page for each and every one of us conservatives? Will it be edited by the ‘community organizers’. Will sunlight finally arrive to drive us all back where we belong?
Limerick on October 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Fixed it for you, Jeanie.
MrScribbler on October 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM
There are some nasty, slimy Democrats in Ohio. They didn’t need direction from the Obama campaign to start digging up the dirt on Joe. These are the same people who slimed Ken Blackwell all through the 2004 election, and ran one of the dirtiest campaigns of all time to get Ted Strickland elected Governor against Blackwell in 2006.
The Democratic Party has completely taken over by a gang of thugs who will do ANYTHING to win elections. And as long as the media are waving the pompoms instead of investgating and calling out the corruption, they will get away with it. Pat Caddell called this back in 2000 during the Florida recount, and it’s only gotten worse. This is what we are up against now if we want to take our country back; we are up against people who have no morals, no integrity, and no intention of following any rules even if they write them. It’all about gaining power, by any means necessary.
rockmom on October 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM
joepub on October 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Joe, if only they would. But remember that the Clinton’s were found to be in possession of hundreds of FBI raw data files and they had no curiousity about it. If memory serves me correctly, Chuck Colson had one or two files in his hands and did hard time for it.
The only way the TBM (better acronym than MSM) turns on a Dem in office, is when they are OUT of office. And even then it’s done kicking and screaming. Hopefully by the end of Obama’s term (if he isn’t coronated) the NYT will be bankrupt and have closed it’s doors for good.
TugboatPhil on October 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Poopergate 2008.
Terrie on October 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Not in small part of the “new media” Mr. Rash.
New Media (Blogs/internet)= Giant Asteroid = demise of the dinosaur media.
That is until Bambi starts to regulate it.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Agree with you about the media. Think I already see signs of this here and there but that could be wishful thinking? The article also says that Axelrod can be “merciless and even borderline underhanded” Imagine that!!!that anyone associated with Obama could be under handed. A better observation might be is anyone NOT underhanded. Anyway, not touting or anything, but do recommend the article by Mark Hemingway. Obama is not stupid so he must condone and even approve to these sorts of tactics—a person is known by his friends. What a devious and conniving man this Barack must be!!!
jeanie on October 25, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Watergate? That was Republicans. If there were not a double standard, Sandy Burglar would’ve done time.
sloopy on October 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM
For those who doubt, let me post an excerpt from a certain speech.
“Standup, stand up, stand up and fight. America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We MAKE history.
Think about it.
irongrampa on October 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Obama will be another 8 years of the Clintons!:)
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM
OH no, this is going to be far, far worse. Did you know that in 2005, a group of Democratic Congressmen brought up a bill to appeal the 22nd amendment. I believe its still floating out there. href=”http://tinyurl.com/66sp75″>
red131 on October 25, 2008 at 11:20 AM
I haven’t really watched the news this morning but I noticed that FOX is running these questions in the crawl. This along with Mr. Malone’s article need wider coverage than that.
Cindy Munford on October 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I don’t think he will have that kind of authority after he returns to the Senate in 2009.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Wait, isn’t Ohio’s Attorney General the same person who can’t be bothered to verify the accuracy of voters? If so this story is done.
Cindy Munford on October 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM
I’m beginning to feel like I’m living in jail cell.
Connie on October 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I’m with you on that.
We’re going to win this thing.
Like you, I just feel it in my broken bones.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 25, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Nothing will come of this. Just some quiet reprimands, no firings. No jail sentences. No fines.
Welcome to the Obama century (or two).
13Girl on October 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM
No wonder the Democrats decry FISA… They don’t NEED LAWS, they have friends in high places who will do the dirty work for them.
This needs to be PLASTERED everywhere.
This is what will happens when we have all three of the branches of government in the hands of the left.
originalpechanga on October 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM
I would like to see some anti-trust actions taken against them since they are all acting like a massive monopoly. Yeah Freedom of the Press, but it has been so abused and bastardized over the past 30 years that it is unrecognizable to the media any more.
They are a monopoly when they do what they have done in this election, and they need to be broken up.
91Veteran on October 25, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Yup, I expect so, for openers.
petefrt on October 25, 2008 at 11:36 AM
This makes at least two ‘Watergate’ style plumber breakings so far. (The breaking in of Sarah Palin’s email and the access of ‘dirt’ on Joe the Plumber). The only difference now is the electronic nature of the break-ins rather than actual ‘black bag’ operations. It took just one to bring down Nixon. And these two instances have seen the light of day BEFORE the election. Remember it wasn’t the actual break in that did in Nixon (he didn’t know about it) it was what he and his subordinates did AFTERWARD.
jerseyman on October 25, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Amen
Viper1 on October 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I used to think this too years ago when Bubba was boinking the help and this thugs were strong-arming anyone who got in their way.
Where are we now? 16 years from his election, he is still running around collecting millions in speaking and other fees, still influencing elections, and his Seahag wife is sitting in the Senate and almost the White House again.
The media has not turned on a surrendercrat since Dumkakis was defeated, and they reported on the sorry financial situation his state was in…a situation they knew of but never reported on before the election.
91Veteran on October 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I feel like we’re going to win this thing. Obama hasn’t sealed the deal with $600 million and the endorsement of ALL of the TV networks and Newspapers. That tells me that a lot of folks see through this chump. Palin could seal the deal if she started hammering the Wright issue. That would alienate the undecideds from Obama. She REALLY wants to do it, because she has good human instincts. She knows that’s their ace in the hole. I hope they turn her loose with it.
marklmail on October 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I’m waiting for these people to produce Obama’s birth certificate and school and medical records.
la.rt.wngr on October 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Let’s hope the one who made the speech then stands up and fights back over this thuggery from the left. The campaign ads should be airing now.
…but somehow I doubt their production is even a thought.
91Veteran on October 25, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Mr. Morrissey,
Has any one asked the Dispatch author of this story why they failed to even get the story straight?
Joe became a national icon when Barack Obama attempted to answer a simple question Joe asked about how the government wwas going to allocate his money. Did the Dispatch even get around to mentioning Obama’s “spread the wealth” comment?
Rovin on October 25, 2008 at 11:51 AM
…with helpful links to Google maps pointing the way to the re-education camps.
91Veteran on October 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM
To me the scariest part of this is that time and time again we see AGs and law enforcement officials, people we think are upholding the laws, breaking every last law! In MO we saw prosecutors and sheriffs threatening citizens if they made an ad that contained “lies” about Obama. This is exactly the same type of deal in OH. It is to scare the hell out of people and to have a chilling impact on free speech. Look at what happened to Michelle Bachman! No free speech for Republicans!
After McCain wins we MUST begin the fight of our lives on our own soil. We MUST weed out of every system anyone that would be willing to commit acts like these. We MUST give confidence to those who support Conservatism, but are afraid to become active in taking America back. We MUST elect strong Conservatives to be Mayors, Judges, Sheriffs, and school board members. Heck, we should strongly support Conservative Animal Control people! Our movement to regain control of this nation is going to have to be from the bottom up, and moves like these in OH and MO just prove that to protect our rights we are in desperate need of starting at home where free speech is apparently in grave danger.
And lastly, we must remember them in our prayers. They need just as much protection from evil as any group of people out there other than our military. We tend to elect these people, and then forget about them. That is until things like amnesty, and drilling comes up. We need to pray daily for them and for God to protect them from temptation. If the world wants to hold Republicans to a higher morality standard then we need to step it up in the morality department. We need to live what we preach, and pray those that represent us do as well.
freeus on October 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM
It is Nixonian and Clintonian. Just imagine what an Obama thugocracy would do with, say, FBI files.
Buy Danish on October 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Joe the Plumber,should do a few Team McCain/Palin
rallys!
A few days before V-Day!
The theme:If THEY can do this TO ME,then THEY will do it TO
YOU!
And,have the same type of theme in a campaign ad,flood the
airwaves!!!
canopfor on October 25, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Barack Milhous Obama
Glenn Jericho on October 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM
For the most part you are exactly correct. But some of these issues do get reported accurately by the MSM. The dynamic that sickens me is that those who support Obama and know that he is duplicitous in most every area of his record and especially about the truth of his vile associations etc, are gleeful that he is getting away with the lying.
They want Bush and conservatives to be disenfranchised as no other group has been disenfranchise in the course of human history. And in the case of the huge amount of militant blacks (read Michelle Obama) who are voting for Obama on race alone, they insist they are still being screwed over as they were during the days of slavery and they want to jackboot whitey’s face in the mud until he dies a humiliating death.
These are immoral people who as far as I am concerned, are collectively the whore of Babylon. In other words, the followers of the anti-Christ.
csdeven on October 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM
It is simply unacceptable for Obama to keep getting a pass for his associations with radicals and being one himself. Honest, hard working individuals are now being looked upon as the enemy of the state in the eyes of the ignorant people who blindly follow Obama campaign rhetoric. We are ten days out and I have no clue what else I can do to defeat this radical. He may win, but we can keep fighting every minute of every day.
mindhacker on October 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM
I would run an ad not attacking his opponents but the plumbers, with the angle that John McCain will fight for you
Voice over: A few weeks ago a guy named Joe asked Obama about his tax plan and Obama said
It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance at success, too… And I think that when we spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody
Since then a lot of people have heard about Joe the Plumber and some people have improperly gone into government files releasing private information about his taxes and family
John McCain has fought for the dignity of all citizens. John McCain has fought to protect his fellow Americans from bureacrats who have forgotten they serve the people.
It is not just about Joe the Plumber, it is about a government that works for the people and respects the rights of all.
Citizen voice over: I don’t know anyone more qualified to defend the rights of American citizens in Washington
Vote John McCain
entagor on October 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM
91Veteran on October25 at ii:51 AM
First, let me say thank you from another veteran.
I would merely say to you, man up, trooper. Nobody said this was gonna be easy-so just keep driving on. You CAN make the difference-NEVER doubt that.
irongrampa on October 25, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Just a preview of the coming Soviet-style state under Obama and Ayers.
Big Bro is watching you.
fogw on October 25, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Umm – there are a dozen sites that can dig up personal information on any person.
The government happily sells your data. The biggest of them, Acxiom, is a company worth over $5 billion
A Axe on October 25, 2008 at 12:47 PM
May Darkness engulf them.
KP has no clue what socialism is. If the American people are not careful, they will bring their expedited demise upon themselves.
Entelechy on October 25, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Two different people.
Democratic Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner is providing cover for the voting fiasco.
Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers is the official mentioned in the Columbus Dispatch article. Offhand, I can’t recall her party affiliation, but I suspect that she’s a Democrat. That said, she replaced a predecessor, Marc Dann, who resigned in absolute disgrace for conducting an affair and running an AG’s office comparable to Animal House. Rogers, an Ohio State law school prof, was asked to step in to bring some amount of credibility to the office. I think she’s merely finishing out Dann’s term and then heading back to academia. So we’ll see.
It’ll be an interesting set of state elections in Ohio next time around. Dann was a disgrace as AG, and I suspect that people are going to want Brunner’s head on a stick–if not now, very soon.
BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2008 at 12:57 PM
It could be worse.
lonesomecharlie on October 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Useful idiots did this.
They need to be useful jailed idiots.
Speakup on October 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM
My library card feels Joe’s pain. Remember that ruse and how it was used to hammer Bush with the useful idiots.
tarpon on October 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Just remember, if you vote against Obama you may be targeted as a “hate voter for unchange” and can then be investigated under an Obama “sunshine America” executive order he will sign in 60 days. America has a right to know who is trying to suppress ACORN, dash hope and stop change. Lord Obama will ensure the public has key information about these people that’s needed to justify what is done with them next.
Under this program, Bill Ayers will be appointed to pay his debt to society as head of the new Department of Reformed Education, or “Dept of Reeducation.” His top goal will be to make sure that everyone going through the process embraces the change that Americans need. Obama was most offended when McCain calling Ayers washed-up because Barack knows Bill has his best 8-10 years ahead of him.
econavenger on October 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.
Reaps on October 25, 2008 at 1:37 PM
I’ve said it before, but it’s worth repeating – if only because people tend to forget it:
It is the doom of men that they forget.
ManlyRash on October 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM
A few people have mentioned that this is “Clintonian”, and I agree. Which is why I don’t understand at all this enfatuation that some people on the Right (Ace and the ‘morons’ at Ace of Spades HQ) have with the PUMAs. Does anyone believe that Hillary and the Clinton Machine would not have been doing the exact same thing here? Someone already mentioned their FBI files. And of course, it was Hillary who espoused socialism first (she said something like “we’re going to take from you and give to others who need it” or something like that… basically the same “spread the wealth” comment as Obama), which was why we were all freaking out about trying to find someone to defeat Hillary in 2008.
So I find it laughable that some people on the Right seem to think we have some sort of alliance with PUMAs. We don’t. Hillary and her Machine are simply sore, because Obama beat her at her own game. Hillary is no better than Obama and I don’t understand why the Right seems to think we have anything in common with PUMAs and Hillary. She is just as bad, corrupt and as much of a ruthless thug as Obama, only she’s not Black.
I have no doubt in my mind that her Machine would have smeared Joe the Plumber like Obama’s people have been doing. And I have no doubt that her Machine would have worked to steal the election against John McCain as Obama’s people are doing.
Hillary and the PUMAs look good now, only because Obama is our enemy, instead of Hillary. I’ve seen commentors and blog authors over at places like Ace of Spades HQ and The Jawa Report wondering what our differences are with the PUMAs and ‘why can’t we all just get along’? I just shake my head at the stupidity and naivety of these questions. Just like the mass media is our enemy and we shouldn’t try to ‘just get along’ with them, so too are Hillary and her supporters. Hillary and her supporters would be pulling the same voter registration fraud, the same voting fraud and the same thug tactics that Obama and his minions are doing, had she won the nomination. To think otherwise is to deny the past operations of the Clinton Machine.
We on the Right are never going to defeat this crap until we finally acknowledge that these people are our enemies. We need to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and start calling them out on their BS.
Michael in MI on October 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I am waiting for the stories to come about how Ohio Secy of State Brunner called a lacky friend in the Ohio AG’s Office to use these databases to dig up dirt on Joe the Plumber. Also waiting for emails and texts to come out from high campaign officials of the Obama campaign to Secy of State and AG’s office requesting such actions as well.
The AG’s office’s statement that it had cleared itself of wrongdoing is the knee slapper of the day.
eaglewingz08 on October 25, 2008 at 2:09 PM
They ought to look to see if there were leaks in the various agencies. That kind of information trafficking needs to be stopped.
On the other hand this kind of information could have been gleaned by going to a private data mining company. For a fee you would be surprised what they can find. All the searching legitimate, as the data that is supposed to be locked up is available on other legal documents freely given by the person being searched.
Dr. Dog on October 25, 2008 at 2:35 PM
I’m sure this will be headlined on all major news sources, just like when Obama’s passport file was snooped into. Ok, maybe not, more like when it was discovered that an Obama aide was the one snooping.
Vashta.Nerada on October 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM
I’m going to love reading the depositions in this HUGE lawsuit.
marklmail on October 25, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Guess which party Nancy H. Rogers belongs to?
CrazyFool on October 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Investigating this will have a very low priority in the Obama administration.
drjohn on October 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
No surprise. Just in my little Condo Association one of the Board members is a cop. He abuses his privileges all the time to dig up dirt on dissenting members. I wish it were funny, but it’s scary.
Joan of Argghh on October 25, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Jay Severin on WTKK in Boston yesterday reported that 15 graduate students from out of state came into Ohio and registered to vote. They are not residents, and are probably the tip of the iceberg. You can guess who they were going to vote for.
According to Jay, none of these miscreants have been charged with a crime.
When you have the partisan media and partisan authorities conspiring to elect a Presidential candidate, then you have the end of democracy.
MrLynn on October 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
… and no one can find a birth certificate … ?
progressoverpeace on October 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Someone needs to create a newspaper publisher in a major city that will publish information like this. Fox News will carry it, but Fox preaches to the choir. There needs to be an outlet in a major city somewhere that will put information like this on the front page.
How come the left managed to get a stranglehold on all the broadcast networks AND all the major newspapers in this country?
crosspatch on October 25, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Get used to it. IF The Chosen One is elected, his people will have access to a lot more data bases than those in Ohio. NO ONE will be permitted to question The One.
GarandFan on October 25, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Plumbers for McCain.
Toilets for Obama.
profitsbeard on October 25, 2008 at 9:36 PM
This story is the second-best arguement I can think of for not wanting medical records to be digitized, as many politicians of both parties have advocated (along with Google).
I recently attended a conference on child abuse issues (called the Dependency Summit in Florida) in which a presenter said quite plainly that if you think there is such a thing as privacy anymore, you are wrong.
I agree.
CourtZero on October 25, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Can you sue the government for breaching the law and violating your “right to privacy”? I hope so. It would be nice to see Joe qualify for Obama’s tax increase by getting $5 million from the State of Ohio.
Jaibones on October 25, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Um, I can think of a few reasons why. Can I have your job, media?
Andrew D on October 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Let me get this straight …
Democrats are FOR violating the privacy of Republicans.
And against violating the rights of terrorists?
Hmmm.
Terrorist’s Rights Party anyone?
HondaV65 on October 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Obama sure has some people with great moral integrity working for him.
Cr4sh Dummy on October 26, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Thinking that the last two elections were stolen and the democratical candidate should’ve won will do that to some people.
That’s one of the many reasons I want McCain to win, all the pop-pop-pop of exploding heads on the lefty sites on the internet.
TeeDee on October 26, 2008 at 12:52 AM
test
HondaV65 on October 26, 2008 at 12:52 AM
With every passing day, the smelly Obama plane is increasingly explained.
S on October 26, 2008 at 3:09 AM
By the way, Saturday Night Live is disgustingly stupid and certainly not funny tonight. I tuned in for the second time in something like four years, and the show is hideous.
They just “performed” some song and dance bit promoting BO and now have some idiot dressed up like a “Robot Call” denigrating McCain.
And just before that, they flashed a large, full-screen annoncement (part of “the show”, not a commercial) displaying the BO campaign logo.
SNL at one time used to be funny. Palin’s guest appearance last week was wonderful. Now the show is returned to its lowest pond scum stupidty…it’s just terrible.
So, this is how the stupid Leftwing behaves today. Words escape me at this point, the show is abysmal. Tonight’s broadcast opened with a “skit” about a guy ringing a doorbell on Halloween, a neighbor announcing he was “a sex offender” threatening ‘trick or treat’.
What a ridiculous waste of broadcast resources.
S on October 26, 2008 at 3:21 AM
If there is just one thing I have done, it is to stop trusting anything the MSM has to say about anything. I no longer trust news services like the AP, and I certainly do not trust anything to come out of sources like the NYT, NBC or any of its affliates, nor do I no longer trust anything that comes out of the Tribune company. I am now very selective as to who I get my news from, and if I have to rely on sources like Fox News, or independent sources like here or at Drudge Report, or even WorldNetDaily, then so be it. But as far as I am now concerned, the MSM can go straight to hell.
pilamaye on October 26, 2008 at 8:43 AM
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