Video: Rush on polling

posted at 11:02 am on October 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Rush Limbaugh spoke to the Fox & Friends hosts this morning to discuss polling and the state of the race.  Rush argues that pollsters want to shape opinion rather than measuring it, especially media-sponsored polls.  Why?  To produce a steady drumbeat of pessimism for Republicans:

Transcript via TV Eyes:

STEVE DOOCY: let’s ask rush limbaugh. he’s out there somewhere in t.v. land.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: in the sunny climate of florida, good to be with you.

KILMEADE: congratulations on the 20 years a lot of people are saying the distance senator mccain is from senator obama is the same thing al gore was from governor bush at the time. do you see a lot of similarities there?

LIMBAUGH: i heard you talking about the polls just a minute ago with chris wallace. you know me. i have a more cynical view of people than the drive-by media. the drive-by media do these polls and whether it is a presidential poll or an opinion of the american people on anything, we all know these polls are used to shape opinion, not reflect it, but now we’re getting to the point where in all these pollsters have their credibility to be concerned about and they want to be right at the end of the day, and i think that’s why with a couple of exceptions you’re seeing a lot of polls tighten now, because the race is tight. it’s not over. nationally, of course, is one thing. you do have the battleground states to be concerned about. it’s not looking bad for mccain out there. i don’t think this is anywhere near over. there is an onslaught in the media to make it seem like this has been long ago over. i think the purpose of that is to suppress and depress republicans and their vote turnout.

CARLSON: so you talk about shaping voters’ minds and that’s something we were discussing earlier, what the polls actually do, because who wants to go out and vote for a loser, right?

LIMBAUGH: precisely. it’s — the media coverage of obama in this campaign, this is the most irresponsible journalistic exhibition i have seen in my life. i’m 57 years old. they’ve always been liberal and they’ve always been biased but i have never seen them in the tank like this, and i think the purpose of that, they’re doing two things. they know there is a new media out there and there is a competition and they are trying to show themselves they can still move public opinion and get the country they want. now they’re not even hiding the bias. they’re profoundly in the tank, and the purpose is, i think, to really depress people into thinking this is over, that mccain has no prayer.

DOOCY: when you talk about shaping opinion, historically, newspapers do it on the opinion page, well, today in the pages of “”the new york times”” the old gray lady, she is endorsing barack obama, the same day a poll comes out from the times where they have got barack obama up by 13 points. we have talked to pollsters that say you can effectively drive a poll toward the answer you want, the result you want, you think “”the new york times”” is doing something like that here?

LIMBAUGH: two things about the times. it’s classic that yesterday standard & poor’s officially proclaimed “”the new york times”” as junk on the day they endorsed the messiah, the lord barack obama the most merciful. number two, why is “”the new york times”” junk? why is their advertising revenue down? why is their pages down, their circulation down? it’s because they’re no longer “”the new york times””. they are the public relations department for the public relations department of the barack obama campaign and the democratic party.

KILMEADE: if john mccain was to have two themes in the final 11 days, what would they be?

LIMBAUGH: this is about the economy right now, guys. people do not care about the ancillary things about obama. it’s sad. i wish we could make them care about wright and william ayers. i think obama is the radical in this group. i think obama moved to chicago and found those people. he didn’t arrive as a waif and these people found him. he is a radical and he has a lot of bitterness about race in this country, but this is about the economy, and the thing that really frustrates me, you guys, is this economy is directly traceable to the democrat party. they can find a republican that is responsible for this, they would have strung him up and had him in congressional hearings for the last two months. this fannie mae and freddie mac thing is directly traceable to bill clinton and barney frank. mccain will not criticize democrats because he is afraid it will make independents mad. that’s maddening. the idea that independents get mad at partisanship on the republican side and defect to the most partisan, mean-spirited extremist democratic party in my lifetime is just absurd. if he can’t tie the democrats to this economic mass, because right now bush is being blamed for it, that means the republicans and it is a sitting duck, you guys. he could have done this a month ago, six weeks ago, but he just for some reason doesn’t want to go. he wants to go pop list and blame wall street greed, which is what obama’s doing, so big difference.

CARLSON: mccain gave an interview yesterday where he did pretty much president bush and try to distance himself. finally, during the third debate, he turned to barack obama and said i am not george bush. if you wanted to run against him, you should have run four years ago.

LIMBAUGH: gretchen, you keep mentioning things that frustrate me. there is no reason to run around yesterday and talk about how, you know, the bush administration goofed things up. that’s just agreeing with obama. obama is the opponent here, not george w. bush. mccain’s problem is consistency. when he finally named dodd and barney frank at one of these cam aign appearances in waukesha, wisconsin, everyone thought he was on message, and the next day he is dissing bush. he hasn’t been consistent. he has to get consistent. we can drag him across the finish line, guys. we can do this.

KILMEADE: rush, let’s go back to the new york times who has a big article about acorn. yeah, we told you we registered 1.3 million but that was exaggerated, closer to a half a million. it sounds like spin coming out of the new york times to explain, hey, a lot of people have been worried about voter fraud. don’t worry about it.

LIMBAUGH: of course they’re going to say don’t worry about democrat vote are fraud and they’re going to try to downplay this, but i think, look, my reaction to this is why does obama have cheat? if this is in the bag, why does he have to spend any more ad money? why does he have to go to the battleground states? if this is in the bag, why does this stuff have to happen? it is no, sir what it appears to be. there is a false reality being presented and people have got to get a grip.

DOOCY: congratulations on 20 years, rush.

LIMBAUGH: thanks, guys.

KILMEADE: rush limbaugh, thank you very much for joining us.

Rush nails two points solidly in this interview. First, McCain needs to abandon the Ayers line of attack right now, not because it’s somehow out of bounds, but because right now people just don’t care.  He has ten days to make his message resonate, and he has to speak to voter concerns.  Thankfully, that’s exactly what McCain has done, with ads on Joe the Plumber and hammering Obama on his tax-and-spend proclivities.  He’s also been given a gift from Joe the Gaffemaster on national security, and both McCain and Palin have made that a strong theme in the closing days.

On polls and pessimism, Rush is dead on target.  Those of us who watched the Star Tribune’s MinnPoll noticed this same dynamic every race.  It would run heavily towards the Democrats until the last two iterations, when suddenly the race “tightened”.  That’s why the Times and CBS (and others) publish polls with ridiculous gaps of 14 and 16 points in party identification — because most people won’t check the samples or the methodology.  They want to create a story line that generates pessimism in Republicans and depress turnout, which then makes the polls a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Without exception, polls “tighten” in the final days of an election.  Is that a true indication of voter loyalty transitioning — or just an attempt by pollsters to get their last polls close enough to claim better accuracy afterwards?


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…. Fox themselves have Obama over McCain by 9 points, don’t they?

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM

I do agree with Rush on some things here, especially about polls.

McCain has gone after the Democrats on the credit mess, the problem is they just respond with the refrain that Republicans ran Congress for years and did nothing to stop them. That is sad right there, as if it were the job of the Republicans to clean up after the Democrats.

In truth McCain would do better to run against Congress in general. At least he tried to deal with this mess and he can prove it.

I wish he did not go after Bush so much. I don’t think Bush deserves it, but then again, it is not McCain’s job to defend George Bush.

I don’t know what the best approach would be. People want to be reassured that the situation will improve.

Terrye on October 24, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Yeah right, Rush. Polls suck, except the ones that show your guy ahead.

sanguine4 on October 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM

I’m so sick of the polls. Listen if we have, what, four or five national polls and they range from dead even to Obama up by 12, then what the heck are they measuring? If they are all scientific and based in an objective reality how can they be all over the map? I keep saying watch where the candidates spend their money, and especially where they spend their time. Forget the garbage polls.

hestrold on October 24, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Yeah right, Rush. Polls suck, except the ones that show your guy ahead.

sanguine4 on October 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Get over yourself. The man rarely follows that crap. Tells other not to, good or bad.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 5:58 PM

On Hannity’s radio show today, he had a caller on who said that Gallup poll called her and asked her first about her opinion on Bush and she said GOOD…then they asked her what her opinion of the most important issues were and she replied SECURITY first…ECONOMY second and CONGRESS/SENATE/SUPREME COURT JUSTICES third.

She then said that they told her to hang on and put her on hold….after which they then hung up the line.

The fact is the polls are fake.

I will bet that we are looking forward to a landslide Mccain win.

SaintOlaf on October 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM

I will bet that we are looking forward to a landslide Mccain win.

SaintOlaf on October 24, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Dear God, let it be.

Oink on October 24, 2008 at 6:43 PM

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08” tie, again I laughed, as he had given away his political preference—just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came, I decided not to tip the server and explained to him I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need—the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10, and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment, I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn, even though the actual recipient needed money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

… OR IS IT? REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE’S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA!!

Keemo on October 24, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Wow, that was good! I wonder if the democrats implement the fairness doctrine, will the shut down fox news as well?

We must defeat Obama.

mindhacker on October 24, 2008 at 6:47 PM

Keemo on October 24, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Great experiment my friend….I would have left the waiter .02 cents and told him that’s what your candidate is worth to me.

Rovin on October 24, 2008 at 7:02 PM

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obamas-fundraising-fraud/

This needs to be explored to the fullest extent allowed by law. If we allow this behavior, our free election system has been compromised.

Keemo on October 24, 2008 at 7:07 PM

Wow, that was good! I wonder if the democrats implement the fairness doctrine, will the shut down fox news as well?

We must defeat Obama.

mindhacker on October 24, 2008

I fully believe the next fairness doctrine will not be your grand daddie’s fairness doctrine. It will restrict more than just AM radio.
Also,, there is so much fraud everywhere,, it is not that hard to believe there is fraud in these polls.

JellyToast on October 24, 2008 at 7:16 PM

fully believe the next fairness doctrine will not be your grand daddie’s fairness doctrine. It will restrict more than just AM radio.

The new Fairness Doctrine, in combination with a possible return of criminal libel laws will be on a par with the Sedition Act–talk about chilling…

Matt Helm on October 24, 2008 at 7:37 PM

I was called by a pollster a few weeks ago. Throughout the poll, I was continually pressed about Democrat candidates. This was a state poll here in PA, regarding state candidates. The woman who polled me was very pleasant, but persistent. She asked me about many different Democrats running for offices verses Republicans. I kept saying I vote Republican. Republican. Republican. Each time I answered for the Republican,, she would respond with “Well, would you vote for the Democrat if you knew such and such?” Would you vote for this Democrat if you knew he voted for this particular whatever?” It was a lengthy poll. Though she was pleasant,, she was obviously pushing me towards answering in a positive for Democrats. I eventually said to her,, “look,, I would need to hear angels singing, the clouds parting and Jesus Himself to come down out of the sky this election day, grab my finger and place it on the Democrat button before i would ever vote for e a Democrat!” After that, she just said “Well. OK, thankyou.” and ended the call.

JellyToast on October 24, 2008 at 7:48 PM

I think the polls are volatile because of the Bradley effect. People just don’t want to say they’re against BHO. We’ll see.

Mojave Mark on October 24, 2008 at 8:14 PM

El Rushbo knows whereof he speaks here. These polls are all across the board. Also, I know quite a few Democrats who are most definitely voting for McCain-Palin. True, part of it is Bradley Effect, but also part of it is that the more they see, hear, and read of Barack Obama, the less they like of him.

Matt Helm on October 24, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Yeah right, Rush. Polls suck, except the ones that show your guy ahead.

sanguine4 on October 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Exactly, the party of hypocrites (not enough bandwidth to even start listing) jump right in line, including right here (archives don’t lie) when the Rasmussen polls close to within 4 they are the GOPs best friend … now they all suck according to the gas bag Rush.

Monkei on October 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM

El Rushbo knows whereof he speaks here. These polls are all across the board.

All across the board … right, from Obama ahead by 6 to Obama ahead by 12 …

Monkei on October 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM

All across the board … right, from Obama ahead by 6 to Obama ahead by 12 …

Monkei on October 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM

BEEEEP…thanks for playing Obamatron! You forgot AP: Obama ahead by only 1; Battleground: Obama by 2; IBD (the ones who got it closest the last time) Obama by approx. 2…

But then, those polls don’t fit your narrative or your goal of demoralization, do they?

Sorry…we’re not playing that game.

Matt Helm on October 25, 2008 at 12:14 AM

… OR IS IT? REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE’S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA!!

Keemo on October 24, 2008 at 6:46 PM

LOL. Great story!

silverfox on October 25, 2008 at 3:13 AM

How quickly after the elections, will the old MSM’s cry for a bailout…….they will scream “we are the 4th branch of govt”……

I wonder if B.Frank supports NYT by advertz his gay brothel in the entertainment section?…or if he sends his advertz dollar elsewhere?

sbark on October 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM

Nice to have you on record once again monkei. If I remember correctly, 90% of the polls had Gore winning big in 2000, and Kerry winning big in 2004. Hell, for that matter, I seem to remember McGovern ahead in most polls.

Polling firms, as is the case with their bed partners in the Liberal Media, are widely recognized as just another dishonest propaganda tool used by the DNC for purposes other than it’s original design.

2008, the year the old Main Stream Media died; the year all polling firms died; the year a Black African American ran the most unethical, corrupt, and illegal campaign in the history of the United States.

As the truth is discovered by the new media, by the new truth detectors, Barack Obama and the Democrat Party will go down in history as the party who broke every law and threw any attempt at fairness and integrity under the bus. The entire corrupt Democrat machine has been on full display for all to see, and the entire world has been watching. Illegal campaign contributions; widespread voter fraud by the hands of ACORN; illegally tapping citizens credit cards for Obama donations; taking millions of dollars from foreign sources; never being vetted by the media; never having to answer one single question about his relationship with several really evil people; having his disdain and hatred for white people hidden by a very well organized “hit squad.”

Hey monkei, how does it feel to support a man that blames much of the evil in this world on the “white mans greed?” After all monkei, these are his words taken from a book he wrote.

Keemo on October 25, 2008 at 9:52 AM

RNC: Obama ‘Outside Law’ on Donors

Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:40 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

The Republican National Committee on Thursday supplemented its Oct. 6 complaint to the Federal Election Committee and — citing new revelations by Newsmax and other news organizations — called on the FEC to “immediately conduct a full audit” of the Obama campaign accounts.

The RNC complaint asserts that the Obama campaign had demonstrated a “lack of compliance with the law” because of its acceptance of prohibited donations from foreign nationals, excessive contributions from individuals, and donations from unknown sources.

At the same time, RNC officials said they recognize that the FEC has “no authority” to freeze campaign accounts or to take other actions that would actually prevent the Obama campaign from spending money illegally obtained from foreign nationals to influence the U.S. presidential election.

“The system isn’t designed for actors who are going to ignore the law,” RNC chief legal counsel Sean Cairncross told Newsmax.

A Newsmax analysis of the Obama campaign’s campaign finance disclosures found 60,000 donations in unrounded amounts that fundraising experts said clearly suggested were “foreign currency transactions” translated into U.S. dollars.

The Obama campaign claims that many of these donations were purchases of T-shirts from the Obama store. However, when asked by Newsmax to provide an accounting for receipts and expenditures of the Obama store, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt could only name a single supplier who sold merchandise worth less than $500,000, according to campaign records.

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_campaign_donations/2008/10/22/143057.html
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_illegal_donations/2008/10/21/142761.html

The new truth detectors.

Keemo on October 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Daily Intrade.com tracking chart of the McCain presidential campaign.

Latest price is 13.6 cents on the dollar.

There’s still time for you mongrels to put your money where your mouth is.

I did.

See here where I posted comments as I was in the process of buying into these trades live here on HotAir (scroll up to see all my comments).

There is still time for you, yes you to do this.

U.S. credit/debit cards will not work to transfer money to Intrade – due to our banks’ regulations (think Barney Frank and his partners in crime…. :)

But it takes only two (2) business days and a $65.00 flat fee (depends on your bank) to wire it.

Let’s make some mullah!! Help donate to muah!

Let’s win this thing already!!

Mcguyver on October 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Whatever, Rush. You have alot of nerve talking about others manipulating the truth. You and the conservative talk shows like Beck, Hannity, Coulter, et al,… even Ingraham (whom I like, but can’t trust now). You sick evil people hammered Governor Huckabee and McCain all through the Republican primaries saying they were liberals and all sorts of vile stuff (Socialists, worse than Hillary, would destroy the Republican Party!). You sucked up tens of millions of viewers and people who are now ditto-heads and hanitized and sanitized. I mean, it is just unbelievable! You spewed lies day after day after day to your tens of millions of listeners all through the Republican primaries essentially eliminating our best hope for stopping the Obama. Governor Huckabee was our best speaker and the most charismatic of the Republican candidates. Having a Reaganesque ability to communicate he was Republicans best chance to beat Obama, especially in the debates. And almost all of you, most of you were opposing him, condemning Huckabee, urging people to vote against Huckabee. You condemned a decent man. I mean, you could burn in hell for this! Do you know what you’re doing to your country! You’re destroying this country! You hideous hypocrites! You and all these other phony, hypocrite fools, you’re a big reason why Barack Hussein Obama has been virtually unchallenged and will probably be the next President of the United States! Obama, who was a member of a church for 20 years that believes in what’s called ‘Black Liberation Theology’. Which is not a theology. It is just pure racial hatred against whites. Jealousy, hatred, and ugly, filthy, hate mongering, against whites! This is a church… this is a church… Obama’s church is a church that is no different in terms of the anti-white, anti-semitic hatred that they preach from Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. In terms of the anti-white and anti-semitic hatred there is no difference! That’s why they honour Louis Farrakhan. That’s why last year they gave him their highest award. That’s why Jeremiah Wright and the church funded Jeremiah Wright’s trip to meet with Lybian terrorist dictator Mouammar Kadhafi in the 1980’s. Jeremiah Wright went with Louis Farrakhan on a trip to meet with Mouammar Kadhafi and meet with all the Arab terrorists, in order to say he agrees with them in destroying America and destroying Israel. These are the spiritual mentors and the church that Barack Obama had been a proud member of for 20 years! And you helped put him at the front door of the White House — this is national suicide!

apacalyps on October 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Rush is right….the MSM is now like Pravda…they don’t care
about the truth. BTW Obama wants a National Police Force ala
the SS in Nazi Germany…. The Libs have a population that has no idea what they are getting themselves into.

dec5 on October 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Call for a National Police Force by Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXvLWB_NLKE

dec5 on October 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM

apacalyps

Oh noes, Rush didn’t like the guy that granted clemency to hardened criminals. Big deal. Also, try to remember to use the occasional line break next time you ramble.

R. Waher on October 26, 2008 at 12:42 AM

…. Fox themselves have Obama over McCain by 9 points, don’t they?

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM

FOX was one of the only polls to have Kerry leading (by two) on election eve four years ago. They’re useless. (Oddly, CNN had Bush up one.)

Damian G. on October 26, 2008 at 1:04 AM

I know I have responded to two polls telling them I was going to vote Obama when I have absolutely no intention of voting for him. I told one pollster that I was a communist and it was good to finally see a good communist running for office but I was disappointed that he had to cover as a Democrat. She sort of stammered a bit after that.

Who cares what the polls say. I am not changing my vote according to what anyone’s polls say. I have made up my mind and I am voting for McCain/Palin, polls be damned.

crosspatch on October 26, 2008 at 4:51 AM

Oh noes, Rush didn’t like the guy that granted clemency to hardened criminals. Big deal.

R. Waher on October 26, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Look, you arrogent fool, no matter how many times some “conservative” wins based on Rush Limbo’s checklist, the country goes much further left over the course of time. So go right ahead and keep supporting him. Be my guest! The fact is, Rush condemned a decent man, and he did it to damage his presidential campaign. And it just so happened that that man was out best chance at defeating Barack Hussein Obama! I don’t call that helping your country. I call that destroying your country!! When are you going to understand. When are you going to realize. The so-called conservative movement is a farce and a paper tiger. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin and other talk radio hosts have tens of millions of listeners, and NEVER MADE ANYTHING OF IT, never made a mass movement. They are USELESS!! Political whores. Paid liars. They DO NOT represent the silent majority of this country. I think this is worth emphasizing this point. Unless we COMPLETELY CHANGE THE STATUS QUO, we will never have a real conservative movement and if we do not have a real conservative movement, then America is literally doomed.

apacalyps on October 26, 2008 at 6:32 AM

I know that the apacalyps is coming, but I just don’t have time for it.

I know that twice in the last 18 years a politician from Hope arghkansas told us that unless he is elected we’re going to face the apacalyps unless we elect him.

I need to apologize to them, because I’m going to be too busy for it.

I know that both of these politicians said, that, unless we raise taxes to build parkways that are accessible to the little children, our next generation, will not recognize their own country.

I could go on and on explaining all this, except for the fact that I just don’t have time for it.

Mcguyver on October 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Anyone remember from the 2000 election how CBS called Florida won for Gore when the polls in the panhandle still had an hour to go before closing because they are an hour behind the rest of the state? Who knows how many republican voters stayed home due to the state being “officially” called a win for Gore.
I predict that in this election, the media will be much worse in this respect, especially if they see Obama falling behind early. They will not hesitate to try and steer the election in any way they can by continuing, up until the last minute, to make people think that it’s a lost cause so why bother to go out and vote for McCain.

AZ_Mike on October 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM

I know that the apacalyps is coming, but I just don’t have time for it. I know that twice in the last 18 years a politician from Hope arghkansas told us that unless he is elected we’re going to face the apacalyps unless we elect him. I need to apologize to them, because I’m going to be too busy for it. I know that both of these politicians said, that, unless we raise taxes to build parkways that are accessible to the little children, our next generation, will not recognize their own country. I could go on and on explaining all this, except for the fact that I just don’t have time for it.

Mcguyver on October 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Mcguyver, I don’t disagree with you that every election we are told that our next generation will not recognize their own country. It’s true. Crooked Politicians (the ones who don’t believe the promises they make to voters) use this tactic to scare voters into voting for them. It happens every election! On that we agree. However, has it ever occured to you that while these evil people use this selfish ploy to get voters to vote for them — has it ever occured to you that it’s actually come true? That the last generation does NOT recognize their own country!! That each generation IS worse than the last!! I refer to it as the ‘Boy Who Cried Wolf Syndrome’. It has led Policians us to ignore real parallels. The lies and compliance have become a reality.

I know that the apacalyps is coming, but I just don’t have time for it.

God warns there is a fiery trial unlike anything in the history of the world coming soon, to separate the unfaithful unbelievers from the faithful believers (the coming ‘Apocalypse’). It doesn’t matter if you don’t have time for it or not, Mcguyver. It’s coming, and you better get saved (if you’re not already) and ready for it while you still have a chance.

apacalyps on October 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM

dec5 on October 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Here is the really scary part, we already have several national police forces. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Agency, and Border Patrol are among them. So why would Barack Obama feel that we need another?

It seems that Obama does not like the narrow role that these police forces play. He wants a much more powerful police force with the same broad powers and discretion inside of America that the military enjoys outside our borders. That is what he says in the quote that you linked. If people would think about that for a bit, they should be VERY scared.

Hawthorne on October 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM

If you remain a Democrat after seeing the plain evidence of what your party is doing, you are a criminal, and you should be prosecuted as a conspirator to commit election fraud. You should forfeit your citizenship, because you do not deserve its privileges. You are beneath contempt.

drunyan8315 on October 26, 2008 at 11:58 PM