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Todd: The attacker fondled me, too; Update: Todd confesses to making up story, say police; Update: Todd “upset” with the media for hyping the story; Update: “She hasn’t really shown any obvious remorse”

posted at 1:30 pm on October 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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She forgot to mention that to cops during the initial report, just like she forgot to mention the detail about him spotting the McCain bumper sticker on her car. It happens; victims of violent crime forget details initially.

But the nuance is mounting.

Speaking to Channel 4 Action News on Friday, [police spokesman Diane] Richard said they’re still questioning Todd because of some new developments.

“We have learned that the victim’s statement has a few inconsistencies in it and her statement has changed,” said Richard

Richard said Todd now says she isn’t sure if it was a bumper sticker on her car or a campaign button on her jacket that angered the attacker. Richard said Todd added new details to the attack, saying at one point she lost consciousness.

“She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well. She indicated that when he had her on the ground he put his hand up her blouse and started fondling her. But other than that, she says she doesn’t remember anything else. So we’re adding a sexual assault to this as well,” Richard said.

They gave her a polygraph but haven’t released the results. Here’s a photo of the ATM station; cops say the camera doesn’t show anything, but that might be because the attack happened out of frame. No word on whether it at least shows her using the machine to place her at the scene.

People who work at nearby businesses claim they didn’t hear anything. I assumed from the first reports that the ATM was enclosed in the foyer of a bank (the way mine is) but this appears to be open onto the street, so passersby would have a clear view.

She also says, contra Ace’s theory, that the guy was sitting on her chest when he carved the “B,” not standing over her upside down:

Ms. Todd told police during at least five hours of questioning last night that her attacker said to her, “You are going to be a Barack supporter.” She told police the man then sat on her chest, pinning both her hands down with his knees and used what she believed was a dull knife with a roughly 5-inch blade to carve the B.

Ms. Todd then went to a friend’s house in the 5100 block of Cypress Street, about a mile away, where she reported the incident to police about 45 minutes later. She declined medical treatment at that time.

Like Ace says, maybe she took the photo herself in the mirror. If the latter, that would make the “B” facing the right way on her left cheek, which would be the likeliest place for a right-handed assailant to cut her (assuming, probability-wise, that he is right-handed). Exit question one: Why not release the details of the polygraph? If she passed it, it’s mighty irresponsible to suppress that information while whispering to the press about “inconsistencies” in her story. Exit question two: If other businesses were open nearby, why didn’t she go in and ask for immediate help?

Update: The boss’s skepticism was justified: Police tell KDKA it’s a hoax. Disgraceful.

Police sources tell KDKA that a campaign worker has now confessed to making up a story that a mugger attacked her and cut the letter “B” in her face after seeing her McCain bumper sticker…

Investigators did say that they received photos from the ATM machine and “the photographs were verified as not being the victim making the transaction.”

This afternoon, a Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Todd confessed to making up the story.

The commander added that Todd will face charges; but police have not commented on what those charges will be.

Update (Ed): The College Republicans will have some explaining to do here.  And let’s remember that even if the story had been true, it still didn’t say anything about Obama and the people who support him.

Update: Fox News VP John Moody set up the left’s talking points for them perfectly last night: “If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.”

Update: No word yet about the black eye, but the “B” is her own doing, unsurprisingly.

A McCain-Palin campaign volunteer who claimed she was robbed and cut by a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama has confessed to making up the story, police sources told the Tribune-Review.

Ashley Todd, 20, of College Station, Texas, is expected to be charged with filing a false police report and may face additional charges, investigators said. She told detectives she etched a backward letter “B” onto her right cheek and then manufactured a story about being attacked at a Bloomfield ATM by a black man who was enranged by her John McCain bumper sticker.

Detectives are continuing to question Todd at police headquarters. They are expected to release additional information later this afternoon.

If it’s her right cheek, then the photo wasn’t taken in a mirror and she really did etch it backwards, like the moron that she is.

Update: Here’s one possible explanation for how she got the black eye: She may not really have a black eye. Quote: “The photo also shows Todd with a black eye. Salon showed it to Jennifer Province, an emergency room nurse, who says she believes the black eye was faked. The color of it is wrong, Province said, and there’s less swelling than typically seen.”

How does one “fake” a black eye, exactly? Did she actually put make up around her eye and expect the cops to be fooled?

Update: KDKA updates to say that cops believe the “injuries” were self-inflicted. Whether that’s a reference to the “B” or to something more, like her giving herself a black eye, I don’t know yet.

Update: Surprise — she told cops she’s had mental health problems in the past.

Update: I’ve received the following statement from Ethan Eilon, executive director of the College Republicans:

“When Ms. Todd initially contacted us claiming to have been attacked our first reaction was obviously to be concerned for her safety.  We are as upset as anyone to learn of her deceit, Ashley must take full responsibility for her actions.” – Ashley Barbera, Communications Director

“We have terminated her effective today. Obviously, we had know idea she was making this story up.” – Ethan Eilon

Update: She simply must be joking.

“She just opened up and said she wanted to tell the truth,” Bryant said. “She was upset with the media for blowing this into a political firestorm.”

She told Detectives J.R. Smith and Scott Evans varying stories about how she ended up with two black eyes and a backward letter “B” etched onto her right cheek late Wednesday. She said she remembers being in her car, driving around the city, and seeing the letter on her cheek when she looked into the rearview mirror. She said she immediately thought of Barack Obama when she saw the “B,” Bryant said.

“She said she doesn’t remember doing it but knows it must have been her who did it,” Bryant said.

Update: Inflaming race relations, sandbagging the candidate she claims to support, sending the cops on a wild goose chase — and no remorse, of course.

“She hasn’t really shown any obvious remorse,” Kraus said. “She’s certainly surprised that it snowballed to where it is today.”

“It’s been a huge waste of time and man hours,” said Bryant, adding that police had been working on the story since it broke Thursday…

A woman named Liz who answered the door at the residence where Todd arrived after her purported attack told FOXNews.com that her roommate is friends with Todd, and he told Liz not to discuss any details about the incident. A Ford Taurus with a Texas license plate and a McCain-Palin sticker was parked outside.

Fox notes that she’s staying with a “male friend” in the area. I’m still wondering about that black eye.

Update: KDKA has perp-walk video. I looked closely to try to see if her eye’s still black, which would at least prove that it’s a real injury, but I can’t tell for sure. If it is, it’s healed an awful lot already.


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I hope Todd gets some genuine help. This will follow her forever.

And I hope she gets the same punishment the “victims” in the Duke “rape” case got. Which is to say, none. Our society still needs to work on its compassion for those who have mental problems. Particularly when, as in this case, the only one she has hurt was herself.

It will be interesting to see the double standard the race- and victim-hustlers will apply to this girl.

MrScribbler on October 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM

I’m sorry but, the Left have proven they will do anything in this election…ANYTHING…this story does NOT surprise me.

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:07 PM

me either, anyone with Lexis should look her up to see Party ID, parents etc., but accept the official story for now

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM

BTW, what all the trolls here ought to be saying is, Gee that Michelle Malkin really is a straight shooter. Yep, she called it and wasn’t afraid to go so. You still have bloggers on the left claiming Bristol Palin is Trigs mother.

Todd lying doesn’t change the fact that electing B Hussein Obama will be the worst thing that ever happened to this country.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

I’ll go further. Where are the trolls out there posting their admiration the way Todd was so dedicated that she was willing to go through all of this just to get McCain elected?

highhopes on October 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM

The Race Card on October 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

You’re classic dude. Classic troll. I’ve been checking in between meetings today and haven’t seen hide nor hair or you. Now, you are all over it.

I have this picture of you sitting in front of your computer hitting the refresh button every ten seconds waiting with your fingers crossed. Then the story! “YES!” You scream. “Watch out bitches, here I come.”

What do you comment about the lady who was hit with the campaign sign in NYC. Did you offer one remark about that?

LOL

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Fiveways, I think she just wanted to be important.

Assuming I am wrong or not completely right about that, perhaps she had something to cover, like an explanation for injuries inflicted on herself to relieve psychic pain.

SarahW on October 24, 2008 at 2:15 PM

What would you do for “The One”?

….assuming you really believed he was “The One”…..

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

It’s a sad story in an election that is ugly and uglier.

mycowardice on October 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM

well, how did she get to work for the McCain camp and shipped from Texas to Pittsburgh?

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM

The Race Card on October 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

You’re classic dude. Classic troll. I’ve been checking in between meetings today and haven’t seen hide nor hair or you. Now, you are all over it.

I have this picture of you sitting in front of your computer hitting the refresh button every ten seconds waiting with your fingers crossed. Then the story! “YES!” You scream. “Watch out b*tches, here I come.”

What do you comment about the lady who was hit with the campaign sign in NYC. Did you offer one remark about that?

LOL

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:20 PM

What preconceived notions?

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

That Obama supporters are likely to be robbers who are also stupid enough to linger long enough after the fact to rough their victims up a bit and turn them into a walking campaign sign.

Hey, I agree you have to be crazy to vote for Obama, just not that crazy.

Bill Scrunty on October 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM

This is one person. In a sane world, it would be one person. In a sane world, Obama would be indicted to campaign finance fraud. In a sane world, Fannie and Freddie would be nailed to the coffin of Obama and the dems.

Alas.

Mommypundit on October 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM

John Moody is right. The MSM will explode over this. McCain is done.

p0s3r on October 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Awww…heartache.

Constant Parrhesia on October 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM

More fun than ben wa balls

LimeyGeek on October 24, 2008 at 1:48 PM

You vicious bastard. Juxtaposing that with Hilary Clinto… AUGH. WHEN WILL THE VOMITING STOP?!?

My mind’s eye is bleeding!

TheUnrepentantGeek on October 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Well, it lands me in the same place every night: healthy and happy, a block from the beach and next to the most beautiful woman in town.

The Race Card on October 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM

That’s so sweet, I hope she sees it. I am afraid you are taking more heat for not believing your fellow posters than Ms. Todd. Family fight and you are a part of the family, don’t forget it.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Hoax, huh?

The Race Card on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I live in Central Illinois near two Universities. I’ve talked to the twenty-something Obamanites.

Trust me, if McCain wins this election…..it ain’t going to be race-riots…..it’s going to be moonbat riots.

These young skulls-full-o’-mush are from the dark side of the moon.

As Rush would say- Don’t doubt me.

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

If the photo real of her? Does she really have a black eye and scratched B on her face or is that Photoshop faked?

If it is a real photo, then who punched her in the face and gave her the black eye and the other damage?

If it is a fraud, The woman needs some help.

albill on October 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM

I noted yesterday that the black eye showed no signs of swelling. Strange……

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM

I’m sure this was discussed at some point, but doesn’t it take some time for black eyes to actually get black. Aren’t they red and puffy and then the pooled blood turns a darker color after a couple of days?

Maybe it’s just a make-up job?

forest on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I still believe she was assaulted even though she said she made it up.

If there can be a bloc of imbeciles who thinks 9/11 was an inside job despite the evidence, I can believe this…

Spanglemaker on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Fox News VP John Moody set up the left’s talking points for them perfectly last night: “If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.”

It would make more sense that Ms. Todd is an actual Obama supporter, who went to work for the McCain campaign, then created this hoax in order to forever link the McCain campaign to race-baiting…………….. that’s just how they work people.

Seven Percent Solution on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I knew that wasn’t true. Good thing my law classes taught me a lot. Thought I lost all of that. The story didn’t seem reasonable. Knowing that they would probably make her take a polygraph. Glad she didn’t out and describe a fictitious man. There have been many innocent accused. I think McCain will win. To bad they were duped and called Todd. What some won’t do. Only falls on the person herself.

sheebe on October 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Update: Fox News VP John Moody set up the left’s talking points for them perfectly last night: “If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.”

Oh good LORD, Allah.

That’s overstating things a little. And by “a little”, I mean, “a whole f’ing lot”. Some nuance on my part.

Vyce on October 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

What preconceived notions?

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

That this fits in with the left’s increasingly aggressive and violent behavior pattern. As I noted yesterday, it does fit that pattern, but the whole thing just didn’t pass the smell test.

In the Duke case, the media had in their minds the image of the loud, rich/privileged, drunken, sexually aggressive white jocks, and they let that affect their reporting and judgment.

doubleplusundead on October 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

It’s a sad story in an election that is ugly and uglier.

mycowardice on October 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Wow, they were all really were waiting for this story to break.

Yes it is ugly and it’s all from your guys. Aside from one stupid young lady, nothing, nothing compares to the organized trashing, literally and figuratively, we’ve received as Republican and Conservatives in this election.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I still believe she was assaulted even though she said she made it up.

If there can be a bloc of imbeciles who thinks 9/11 was an inside job despite the evidence, I can believe this…

Spanglemaker on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

She’s probably one of those “imbeciles who thinks 9/11 was an inside job”……..

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I still believe she was assaulted even though she said she made it up.

Spanglemaker on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

You must be joking…

JetBoy on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Your “race victimization” is old and is noted by your name.

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Yep. Mention race and suddenly you have a prodigy of Reverend Wright posting.

MadisonConservative on October 24, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Sounds like you two are stereotyping. TRC’s screen name has proven to be ironic. Calling the man a Wright prodigy is a nasty thing to do.

Marxists have taken America’s historic mistreatment of her citizens of African descent and, instead of allowing it to die, they have inflamed it toward a race war. One way or the other, Obama is merely the flowering of that goal. Don’t continue being part of the problem; don’t be the Marxists’ tool by letting you emotions and your testosterone push away even the black Americans who put country before race.

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I noted yesterday that the black eye showed no signs of swelling. Strange……

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM

I wondered about that too, but didn’t have the conviction to comment. Even the black eye looks like makeup. Real ones swell.

DarkCurrent on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

October Suprise

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I’m sure this was discussed at some point, but doesn’t it take some time for black eyes to actually get black. Aren’t they red and puffy and then the pooled blood turns a darker color after a couple of days?

Maybe it’s just a make-up job?

forest on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Any MD’s or nurses in the house?

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

your_worst_enemy on October 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Again, I don’t believe anyone referred to the now fictitious mugger as a Democrat operative. I will not allow you to infer that Ms. Todd is a representative of our party either. She is a sad sad young woman.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I wondered about that too, but didn’t have the conviction to comment. Even the black eye looks like makeup. Real ones swell.

DarkCurrent on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I’ve used stack makeup on a few occasions for Halloween. It’s that time of year when it’s available in all the stores…looks like real bruising when applied right.

I wouldn’t doubt if it was makeup.

JetBoy on October 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Ugh. Please take her picture down, I can’t stand looking at it anymore.

ctmom on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

I wondered about that too, but didn’t have the conviction to comment. Even the black eye looks like makeup. Real ones swell.

DarkCurrent on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I did have the conviction…..still do….

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Apologies to DFCtomm for my comments early on. I was out of line and lashing out.

Why someone would do this is beyond comprehension. How anyone would think this was a good idea or even possible to pull off is just beyond me.

Kudos to the skeptics.

spmat on October 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Thanks I appreciate the apology, but I am sorry that in the end the skeptics were right.

DFCtomm on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

DrMagnolias on October 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM

In a way you are right. But, in a way you are wrong. I met many women in group counseling. I am Anorexic and Bullemic. I never was into self mutilation. So many women there were. A few did scar their faces. That was the best thing that made me fight. And in a different way. I would come home realizing, I wasn’t that mentally off. CA. Has a lot of self mutilating people.

sheebe on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Amen Ms B.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

No, Baldi. He was stating that he felt that if a victim of sexual assault didn’t act “perfectly” after her attack, she wasn’t telling the truth. How many rapes are not reported out of shame? Or worse, being barraged by the defense attorneys if it goes to trial about her “past sexual history or because of what she was wearing”?
He injected the “race” argument about being shot at because of the “color” of his skin.

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

what if she has the backwards B scar for rest of her life, if she really was a mccain supporter and did this she should probably be on suicide watch about now

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:32 PM

what if she has the backwards B scar for rest of her life, if she really was a mccain supporter and did this she should probably be on suicide watch about now

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:32 PM

That scratch will be gone in a week.

My kitty does more damage than that……

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Sounds like you two are stereotyping.

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

The dude has, on more than one occasion, flipped his lid when someone has mentioned racial tendencies or issues. Maybe he has a reason to do so, maybe he doesn’t. Either way, pointing out his behavior when posting is not “stereotyping”.

MadisonConservative on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM

It would make more sense that Ms. Todd is an actual Obama supporter, who went to work for the McCain campaign, then created this hoax in order to forever link the McCain campaign to race-baiting…………….. that’s just how they work people.

Right: she’s been volunteering for McCain all this time just so she could pull this stunt. Come on. Don’t make this worse by engaging in denial and ridiculous mental-gymnastic rationalizations like a Kool-Aid drinking moonbat. This is simply what many of us suspected all along: a dumb and disturbed individual who got a stupid idea.

Alex_SF on October 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

What preconceived notions?

That Obama supporters are likely to be robbers who are also stupid enough to linger long enough after the fact to rough their victims up a bit and turn them into a walking campaign sign.

Bill Scrunty on October 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM

I seriously doubt that people on this board who “rushed to accept this story” think Obama supporters are robbers and so on.

That this fits in with the left’s increasingly aggressive and violent behavior pattern. As I noted yesterday, it does fit that pattern, but the whole thing just didn’t pass the smell test.

In the Duke case, the media had in their minds the image of the loud, rich/privileged, drunken, sexually aggressive white jocks, and they let that affect their reporting and judgment.

doubleplusundead on October 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I dunno. We’re anonymous citizens on a blog. We do nothing BUT opine. We’re partisan, so it’s natural to feel defensive and protective of a supposed victim of a politically motivated attack. The media should (ha ha) have a much higher standard, i.e., keeping subjective judgment out of their reporting.

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

This is self mutilation. it seems to be all the rage with insecure, suicidal kids and college aged people (mostly.) This is a mental health issue.

Mommypundit on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Right: she’s been volunteering for McCain all this time just so she could pull this stunt. Come on. Don’t make this worse by engaging in denial and ridiculous mental-gymnastic rationalizations like a Kool-Aid drinking moonbat. This is simply what many of us suspected all along: a dumb and disturbed individual who got a stupid idea.

Alex_SF on October 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

uhm……have you heard of ACORN….

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Fox News VP John Moody set up the left’s talking points for them perfectly last night: “If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over…

His quest to turn PA red is definitely over.

cornfedbubba on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

This is a mental health issue.

Mommypundit on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

So is modern Liberalism……

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Any MD’s or nurses in the house?

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

An ER doc, Mikeyboss IIRC, commented in the thread yesterday.

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM

He was stating that he felt that if a victim of sexual assault didn’t act “perfectly” after her attack, she wasn’t telling the truth.

Sometimes that is true. Like now.

How many rapes are not reported out of shame?

I think that the modern day numbers of that are a myth. Most aren’t reported out of fear of the attacker.

He injected the “race” argument about being shot at because of the “color” of his skin.

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

How is that “playing the victim?”

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Awaiting more information.
Rush has yet to even mention it as far as I know.

johnnyU on October 24, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Either way, pointing out his behavior when posting is not “stereotyping”.

MadisonConservative on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Did he implore God to d*mn America? Say that we deserved 9/11?

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM

It’s kind of like whining about racial profiling….

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

I dunno. We’re anonymous citizens on a blog. We do nothing BUT opine. We’re partisan, so it’s natural to feel defensive and protective of a supposed victim of a politically motivated attack. The media should (ha ha) have a much higher standard, i.e., keeping subjective judgment out of their reporting.

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

I agree that the media should have higher standards then blog commenters, but that doesn’t disprove the point that in both cases the rush to judgement was done for the same reason.

Bill Scrunty on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

She is a sad sad young woman.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Too bad; throw her in jail.

This is a mental health issue.

Mommypundit on October 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Let her get some counseling in jail.

Kensington on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Wonder who tipped Drudge off to this yesterday?

He’s the reason this was such a big story. First the Sensationalized headline with no story then 30 minutes later the story and you realize its not as bad as first headline, then came the Picture and she wasn’t really “Mutilated”

anyway, so Drudge who tipped you to this story which got all of the Right to jump on it which got it out in national news?

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

I’m sure this was discussed at some point, but doesn’t it take some time for black eyes to actually get black. Aren’t they red and puffy and then the pooled blood turns a darker color after a couple of days?

Maybe it’s just a make-up job?

forest on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

First red, then purple, then green/purple, then yellow as the heme pigments break down in a stepwise manner. As I said yesterday, the greenish color above her left eye would have appeared very quickly for something that happened a few hours prior to the picture. My guess: either makeup or a three-to-five day old real black eye that she decided to use in her story.

Big S on October 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM

I think Ms B was just saying that there is definately the propensity to overreact in things like this and that’s exactly what Marxists count on. I didn’t really see her making an indictment. But the bottom line is we have black conservatives who put a lot on the line for their convictions. Lets never give even the appearance we are not standing arm in arm.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Thank you Mr. Moody.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Did he implore God to d*mn America? Say that we deserved 9/11?

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

He boisterously and blusteringly bemoaned his racial status and how there were racists surrounding him.

You may have focused on Wright’s more prominent remarks, but he had much, much more, and it was just as offensive.

MadisonConservative on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM

And let’s remember that even if the story had been true, it still didn’t say anything about Obama and the people who support him.

Yes, it would have.

It's Vintage, Duh on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM

actually, if she truly is a McCain supporter the black eye can be explained. Who here hasn’t felt like punching themself for having to support McCain???

the backwards B though?

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Oh and….I still stick with my original theory that the “B” on her face was made with HER FINGER NAIL.

FiveWays on October 24, 2008 at 12:49 PM

No, not possible, even if her fingernails were filed to a fine point.

Her cut was obviously bleeding (albeit slightly) at one point. It’s far more likely she used a razor or a knife and pressed as hard as she was able.

But seriously, you’re way off on the fingernail theory.

Esthier on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

anyone know wich way is up in this election?

custer on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

It’s kind of like whining about racial profiling….

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Is mentioning it “whining.” As long as he wasn’t blaming you or white people in general for it, what’s the big deal?

You get the last word because I have things to attend to. Later.

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

I was pissed for her, and now, I’m getting pissed at her.

Anna on October 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Everyone should be, especially those who believed her story or even wanted to believe she was honest. She’s let a lot of people down and likely done damage to the campaign she probably thought she could help with this stunt.

Though, I also feel for her. She’s going to be killed in the press, and while she deserves most of it, she’ll get it worse than the Duke woman.

Esthier on October 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

First red, then purple, then green/purple, then yellow as the heme pigments break down in a stepwise manner. As I said yesterday, the greenish color above her left eye would have appeared very quickly for something that happened a few hours prior to the picture. My guess: either makeup or a three-to-five day old real black eye that she decided to use in her story.

Big S on October 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Yeah, my son came home with one a while back. It was just red for a day or two, then black, then it kind of turned green as it faded away.

Bill Scrunty on October 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Kensington on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM

I have not problem with that but I must tell everyone that I felt bad for Ms. Mangum also because I think people that do this kind of stuff are screwed up in a big way.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Is mentioning it “whining.” As long as he wasn’t blaming you or white people in general for it, what’s the big deal?

You get the last word because I have things to attend to. Later.

baldilocks on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Why? Are you Race Card’s PR person?

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

sure thing for “Worst person in the world” tonight, for once Republicans may agree with Olbermann

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Though, I also feel for her. She’s going to be killed in the press, and while she deserves most of it, she’ll get it worse than the Duke woman.

Esthier on October 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

If Obama were really that far ahead, he’d temper his response. We’ll see.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

this hasn’t made my local news.

What am i saying? It’s Friday. It will be gone by the weekend. And McCain et al need to move, move, move on the taxes, spending and defunding the military.

Kat_Mo on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Why the hell would she think this was a good idea? And who in the world would mutilate their own face to pull off a stupid hoax? Ugh…they’re already blaming the “negative” campaign of McCain/Palin for what is obviously a case of mental instability. ‘See, look what they’re driving people to do!’ Sheesh…

changer1701 on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

More updates up top. Ugh.

RushBaby on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Ugh. Please take her picture down, I can’t stand looking at it anymore.

ctmom on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Ditto that…and send the story to the vault of the archives. The girl needs help, lets hope she gets it.

Now let’s focus on more important issues like:
1. divided government
2. impending international crisis under BO administration
3. BO’s tax and spend and wealth spreading agenda

Keep focused!

ConMom on October 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Crytal Mangum somehow, for some curious reason, earned immediate scrutiny and attacks from the right. She deserved them, too. I reserve the right to give equal scrutiny to equally suspicious people and/or claims.

The Race Card on October 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Don’t you see a difference here, at least when it comes to a Hot Air poster?

Magnum pointed her finger at three men who were kicked out of school and had to go to court, spending money on lawyers trying to defend themselves against criminal charges and trying to preserve their reputations.

Terrye isn’t naming names or sending anyone to jail. She’s on a blog. If you doubt she’s an honest person, you can doubt that she’s even a woman.

And whether you believe it or not, most sexual assaults (rapes or lesser charges) never go reported, mostly because the women who have gone through those experiences don’t want to be treated the way you just treated Terrye. You don’t even have anything at stake and yet you insulted her.

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Esthier on October 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM

I smell a rat.

ejbentz on October 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Why? Are you Race Card’s PR person?

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Hornet Baldi is good people. Leave her alone, please.

upinak on October 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

The moron perp from the Duke case just published a book claiming she really was a victim. Maybe this girl decided cashing in could be profitable. This chick needs help.

On the upside, if it turns out to be a hoax, I guess I’ll have a cheap, new Halloween costume.

Laura in Maryland on October 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

uhm……have you heard of ACORN….

What on earth does ACORN have to do with anything???

Why don’t you spell out the connection, like the super-smart person you must be to see right through this fiendishly clever plan, full of twists and double-twists (unlike the rest of us, who must be too dumb to spot anything but the blindingly obvious or to look beyond Occam’s Razor)?

Alex_SF on October 24, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Hornet Baldi is good people. Leave her alone, please.

upinak on October 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Just messing with her. I’m not even upset with Race Card. Just want them to understand that people react differently to different situations.

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:49 PM

I was going to write yesterday and say it was a fake but did not because i didn’t want to rush to judgment on this. I am a prosecutor down in Texas and I looked at her photo with one of our invetigators and we thought it was faked because the coloring of her eye looked all wrong compared to what we’ve seen of real victims of assault. We also thought she carved the “B” herself while looking in the mirror.

Obviously, this is a young woman who needs some help. I hope she gets it.

skatz51 on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

You know without even trying to I found another case of potential donation fraud to Obama. This one is from Feb/2008.

Unless maybe IR is one of the extra 7 states.

cameo on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

PS…and maybe she told her story to her friends to get sympathy which is why she didnt call the police right away and then she played it too hard and they insisted that she call the police and go to the hospital, etc leading to this rather public display of private, immature angst.

She’s just a dumb kid.

I didn’t think it was real in the first place and I think a lot of people had their “hoax” filters on.

are you planning to lynch her?

Kat_Mo on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Whoops.

Dummy.

Bishop on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Full opensecrets entry:

TODD, FREDERICK B
IR,ZZ 2/29/08 $500 Obama, Barack (D)

cameo on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Did anyone check her car to see if there is a Palin – McCain bumper sticker???

I like the sound of that…. Palin – ????

Kini on October 24, 2008 at 2:51 PM

and Palin embraced her and mccain called her…sweet jesus this is going to get a lot of play. it goes to judgement.

tomas on October 24, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Hornet Baldi is good people. Leave her alone, please.

upinak on October 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

And if I may be frank and candid, conservative have long courted black conservatives. You need to look on HA and actually read the comments she’s posted. She’s a good person.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Wow, what a huge idiot and a disgrace. Thanks for losing the election for us, Ashley.

MedSchoolCatholic on October 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Full opensecrets entry:

TODD, FREDERICK B
IR,ZZ 2/29/08 $500 Obama, Barack (D)

cameo on October 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Is that her dad???

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:53 PM

If Obama were really that far ahead, he’d temper his response. We’ll see.

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Yeah like his response about the “kill him” comment?

No, this woman just signed her own death certificate to her reputation.

me either, anyone with Lexis should look her up to see Party ID, parents etc., but accept the official story for now

jp on October 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM

The Republican group vouched for her, so she’s likely at least registered with them, which would make a search not helpful.

Esthier on October 24, 2008 at 2:54 PM

HornetSting on October 24, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Roger, never mind!

hawkdriver on October 24, 2008 at 2:55 PM

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