CNN: Biden misleading on Iraq SOFA talks
posted at 2:20 pm on October 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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This should surprise no one, but Joe Biden’s telling more whoppers on Iraq. Remember when he tried to claim credit for success in Iraq after opposing the surge? Now he claims that the Bush administration has decided to adopt Barack Obama’s withdrawal plan, too. CNN hits the buzzer, except they botch the sound effect:
Actually, Alina Cho sounded surprised by the final verdict of “misleading”, and it’s no small wonder given her confused explanation of the issue. Biden deliberately misleads his cheering throngs by confusing a couple of issues. First, the reductions in the SOFA are keyed to security improvements, not dates on a calendar, which has always been the Bush administration position. That’s nothing new.
Second, there is a vast degree of difference between setting a timeline in January 2007 and October 2008. The latter acknowledges that the violence has decreased to a level that the Iraqi Army can handle mostly on its own. The former would have been an abject retreat and would have left Iraq as a failed state. Barack Obama wanted to declare defeat and run out of Iraq, chased out by terrorists that we managed to beat without Obama’s support.
In any normal cycle, this demonstration of weakness in the face of the enemy would have sent Obama back to Illinois. As it is, voters still have that opportunity on November 4th.
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Joe the Dumber.
fogw on October 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Fixed
NoFanofLibs on October 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Does Joe Biden always YELL AT HIS AUDIENCE???
ctmom on October 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM
I am not surprised that she is surprised.
Vashta.Nerada on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
And why are there 2 photo’s of Obama in the background and only 1 of McCain??
FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!
ctmom on October 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
………. but that’s not what George Soros has paid for.
Seven Percent Solution on October 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Shock! Jotox is misleading? Never!
jgapinoy on October 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM
You cannot deny that at some point we will be 16 months away from withdrawing our forces. Therefore Obama was right!
/necessary?
redshirt on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM
We can blame his passion for his hair loss & excessively wrinkled forehead, necessitating the plugs & Botox.
jgapinoy on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Bush didn’t come to agree with Obama’s strategy. Obama wanted us to run out of Iraq with our tail between our legs, in defeat and risking a massive civil war. McCain and Bush thought it would be better to leave Iraq in a peaceful victory. It IS subtle, but there IS a difference.
Star20 on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM
…for the situation to change! BO was dead wrong six years ago!
jgapinoy on October 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Jotox! Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
Vince on October 24, 2008 at 2:32 PM
He shoots….he scores…ON HIS OWN GOAL!!!!!!
ManlyRash on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Gaffemiester-B is in da hood.
ManlyRash on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Uhhh, I’m still waiting for the coverage on the “International Crisis” caused by the world “testing” Obama’s inexperience as a leader. Where’s that?
marklmail on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Joe, Joe, calm down! Joe , really now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA&feature=related
max1 on October 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM
No, she can’t handle the truth and I can’t handle her HAIR!!! Talk about wrong cut for facial shape!!!
bloggless on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility that Biden had another aneurysm awhile back and no one noticed?
It would explain
so mucheverything.Trace on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM
JOE-TOX is at it again……’bout time for him to let out a Howard Dean yee-ha!
SDarchitect on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Mom, I’m pretty sure that IS the fairness doctrine!
RegularJoe on October 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Joe looks like a Klingon.
bloggless on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Ha!
(I have seen this happen. A guy on a team I was playing on tried to stop a pass and accidentally sent it into our own goal. Incidentally, it was the only time that game that someone on our team scored.)
Count to 10 on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Anyone else see Time’s Joe Klein on CNN this morning hyping the July meeting between Obama and Patraeus? Is it just me or is he tring to insinuate that Patraeus was against a timeline for withdrawal until he met with The One, who then changed his mind his it courage and steadfastness.
BohicaTwentyTwo on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Thank you, fogw! My day is made-we all needed a laugh today.
honorable mention: joetox.
Doug on October 24, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Is it possible that CNN is less in the tank that the networks? Or is it just that it is harder to ignore bad press about Obama when they have to report news all day long instead of just for half an hour?
Count to 10 on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM
…changed his mind with his courage and steadfastness.
BohicaTwentyTwo on October 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Obama wanted a VP that didn’t outshine him and he definitely found the perfect person in old “no shine” Biden . . . he is sooooo dumb.
rplat on October 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM
I hope and pray that the ‘horizon’ concept doesn’t get too many extra killed.
snaggletoothie on October 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Paging Dr.Young,Paging old Dr.Young,Bidengaffe is lose
again,code 3 on the second floor,approach with caution!
Update: Orderly’s bring mace,Gaffebiden’s Anti-War Moonbats
have circled the wagons around him,approach with
extreme caution!ahha(Snark!)
Or,if one remembers the Movie,Arsenic and Old Lace,the
raving loonitic,of Teddy with his bugle would be Biden,
me thinks!haha.
canopfor on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I read that. Mostly I remember it being bizarrely out of touch, toting Obama’s “I know better than the military” attitude as a positive, while slamming Bush’s enforcement of a competent commander as reckless.
Count to 10 on October 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Imagine these two fools in power. Obama – “Soldiers, retreat.” Biden – “FASTER, FASTER!!!”
marklmail on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Me thinks!
That GaffeBiden is Certifiable!
canopfor on October 24, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Another aneurism moment for Joe the Senator
Kini on October 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM
SNL————-HELLO!
Theres enough material from Joe alone
to fuel two solid months of SNL!!
canopfor on October 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM
He also said that McCain’s “worship of Patraeus” was unjustified.
BohicaTwentyTwo on October 24, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I had forgotten about that, but, now that you mention it, that one was particularly egregious.
Count to 10 on October 24, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Ed – I love this line and especially the ending phrase that I highlighted. McCain and Palin need to use it too!
T J Green on October 24, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Remember the old commercial with the egg? Here’s the new version featuring an egg with a world map painted on it…
Announcer: This is your world.
Hammer blow smashes painted egg into a gooey splat.
Announcer: This is your world on Biden’s brain.
Bold Letter Message: NoBama – NoBiden
T J Green on October 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
canopfor my friend.
Joe doesn’t look as good as Palin does.
Kini on October 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM
MRI and CT scan….NOW!!!!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM
He is probably the most stupid person I have ever seen so far. My liberal’s friends keep telling me how smart people on the left are. I guess if Biden is smart I’m a genius.
pukara61 on October 24, 2008 at 3:27 PM
In any normal cycle
You say this like any ordinary, mere mortal is up for election.
Gunslinger on October 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Joe doesn’t look as good as Palin does.
Kini on Oct 24,2008 at 3:06PM.
Kini: Ha ha,ya but, if your a Liberal drinking Koolaid,
and wearing Liberal rose coloured glass’s,Biden
would look like Bo(10)Dereck!!haha:)
canopfor on October 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Joe is SOFAking stupid.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Yeah, but the important thing is that the RNC spent $150K on clothing for Gov.
moose killerPalin. That’s much more relevant than the Gaffe-0matic 3000 lying yet again on what’s going on in Iraq.rbj on October 24, 2008 at 3:50 PM
The problem with Joe is that he is stupid, prone to gaffes and sufficiently dismissive of his audience that he stretches the truth, thinking he can say anything and they don’t have the intellect to discriminate between the three.
The fact that pundits and the electorate have to try and decipher the genesis of his off the wall comments should give everyone pause.
If Obama wins, Joe will get the crazy uncle treatment that befits a sitting veep. Expect Barry to send Biden on a 4 year snipe hunt (global health initiative) which will have Joe orbiting the earth more frequently than a satellite and visiting every third world hell hole that doesn’t have running water, a press corps or cameras.
moxie_neanderthal on October 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM
+1
common sensineer on October 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM
dude, what’s up with her hair? doesn’t surprise me that the dems want to spin anything the public doesn’t like against bush/republicans, and take credit for anything positive. why doesn’t CNN just call biden a liar? olbermann takes great joy in calling bush a liar… for example… that was very lame reporting if you ask me… just an attempt to SEEM like they are unbiased.
thedude on October 24, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I don’t even think the MSM bothered to look up what a SOFA is. It is more of a legal/diplomatic agreement between the US and the host country on the legal Status of US military Forces. The agreement spend more time covering how our force will be treated by the local legal system. It covers what will happen if a member of the US military got into a fight downtown, would the member be prosecuted by the UCMJ or will they be prosecuted by the host nation. We have SOFAs with pretty much every NATO ally, and many of the other countries we have forces permanatly stationed in. Therefore, the existance of a SOFA implies US troops will be on the ground for an extended period of time.
cobrakai99 on October 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM
cobrakai99 on October 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM –
Precisely.
As for Biden, why is it that so many refuse to accept that Biden has a long long reputation for making it up as he goes along? And people still want this guy a heartbeat away from the Presidency?
coldwarrior on October 24, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Yeah, but next to her, Julie Chen look like a Rhodes scholar.
And I’m sorry, but toward the end there was a moment in John Roberts’ eyes that looked like he was havin’ the type of feelin’ Jimmy Carter once famously confessed to.
Captain Scarlet on October 25, 2008 at 6:57 AM
Oh yeah, it was Obama’s plan first…BS!
mindhacker on October 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM
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