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“John Galt” donating to Obama this year too, apparently; Update: RNC files new complaint with FEC; Update: Foreign credit cards being accepted too? Update: Ruffini cries fraud

posted at 12:50 pm on October 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I’m ripping the content straight from Powerline. Ace actually had the story last night, but it was only a single source; PL claims in an update that other readers have replicated the experiment. Quote:

I went to the Obama campaign website and entered the following:

Name: John Galt
Address: 1957 Ayn Rand Lane
City: Galts Gulch
State: CO
Zip: 99999

Then I checked the box next to $15 and entered my actual credit card number and expiration date (it didn’t ask for the 3-didgit code on the back of the card) and it took me to the next page and… “Your donation has been processed. Thank you for your generous gift.”

This simply should not, and could not, happen in any business or any campaign that is honestly trying to vet it’s donors. Also, I don’t see how this could possibly happen without the collusion of the credit card companies. They simply wouldn’t allow any business to process, potentially, hundreds of millions in credit card transactions where the name on the card doesn’t match the purchasers name.

In short, with the system set up as it is by the Obama camp, an individual could donate unlimited amounts of money by simply making up fake names and addresses. And Obama is doing his best to facilitate this fraud. This is truly scandalous.

The same guy claims to have tried to donate the same way on McCain’s website and had his card rejected. I’m skeptical that The One would be quite this blatant about things, but (a) at the Corner, Mark Steyn notes that the only way to get his own online merchandising vendor to bypass a name check when processing credit card information would be to modify certain security settings, and (b) this wouldn’t be the first time Team Barry’s website had dragged its feet on online donation security measures. From Ken Timmerman’s much-linked piece at Newsmax last month: “Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.” Meanwhile, in response to his earlier post on this, Geraghty receives this e-mail from an Obama supporter:

Back in August or September (not sure which) Obama’s site definitely would not take my money because I was entering my school address instead of my permanent (parent’s) one. I remember being slightly annoyed at the time. I just tried it to donate again using my school address and it went through no problem. That’s more than a bit disappointing.

Hopefully, the suspect funds will be returned. Almost 2 million was refunded just last month.

There’s definitely no excuse for this though.

Any readers willing and able to help confirm or debunk? Knowledge of online vending a plus! Also a plus: Tolerance for being called a hater or racist for questioning the security measures of a guy who famously hasn’t released any information about his many, many, many small donors. If you succeed, your reward will be watching the media pounce on this story — to find out who “John Galt” is, so that they can give him a beating Joe-the-Plumber-style.

Update: A reader tells Steyn that his donation as “JarackBoe BOamabiden” was accepted.

Update: Lots more info at Ace’s from readers who are replicating the experiment. Question: Is it possible that the website’s showing a “transaction confirmed” message before the transaction’s actually confirmed, and all these donations are being rejected later?

Update: Reader “Dale in Atlanta” says he tried it with a fake name and the transaction showed up on his credit card immediately — but marked “pending.” We’ll find out later today if it clears.

Update: Just across from the RNC:

The Republican National Committee (RNC) today filed a supplement to its complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against the Obama for America campaign addressing its acceptance of foreign national and excessive contributions, donations from unknown sources, and demonstrated lack of oversight or concern for compliance with the law. The complaint demonstrates that the Obama campaign has failed to comply with federal campaign finance law in its fundraising. RNC Chief Counsel Sean Cairncross released the following statement today concerning the supplement to the complaint:

“Based on numerous press accounts that have come to light since our initial filing in early October, it is clear that the Obama for America campaign is operating outside of the law. The complete and total lack of any control mechanisms within the Obama campaign’s fundraising operation has undermined any confidence in their ability to curtail excessive, foreign, and fraudulent contributions and demands immediate attention from the Federal Election Commission (FEC).”

Update: Here’s something a reader sent me, for what it’s worth:

I recently set up credit card processing for my startup company and the way it works is the vender (ie me, or Obama’s campaign) selects whether the info must match what is on the card. If they opt not to they accept the risk of being flagged after too many fradulent charges are reported by them to the credit card companies. Since these people are (presumably) using their actual credit card and just giving a different name to avoid the donation limits I doubt they’ll file complaints about the charges with their card company.

So the only time you would ever do this is if you know your clients really well. The only reason I can think of for Obama’s campaign to do this is to avoid the donations cap. The fact that this isn’t all over the media is truly a shame.

Update: Unbelievable. Suddenly, after multiple blog readers had their phony donations accepted and this story started percolating on right-wing blogs, the security system is magically back in place.

Update: I don’t know what happened to the guy in the last update but Flip says he successfully donated five bucks at 2:05 p.m. with the following info:

Name: Nodda Realperson
Address: 1000 This Is a Bogus Street
City/State: Neighborhood of Makebelieve, CA
Email: if.a.live.person.is.vetting.this.donation@its.fake.dont.process.it.com
Employer: Barack Obama
Occupation: Cow-Eyed Disciple

A friend e-mails to ask if anyone’s tried this with a foreign credit card to see if there’s any difference. Anyone got one?

Update: Commenter “Bombast” says his foreign credit card worked like a charm:

I have a credit card issued by a bank in Hong Kong.

I’ve just made 5 donations of $5 each using the card. I listed fake addresses in North Korea, Iran, Gaza, Venezuela and Kenya. The names and addresses were made up, each was different, I listed real Yahoo email addresses that forward to me.

Fake Name
Not A. Realperson
Finance Violation
Fraudulent Charge
Over Donation Limit

All 5 went through without a problem. I’m already being solicited for more money.

Update: One of Jonah Goldberg’s readers says he tried this at McCain’s website and was rejected.

Update: Patrick Ruffini was Bush’s web guy in 2004 and specializes in online campaign finance, so he knows what he’s talking about here. Verdict: Fraud.

The issue centers around the Address Verification Service (or AVS) that credit card processors use to sniff out phony transactions. I was able to contribute money using an address other than the one on file with my bank account (I used an address I control, just not the one on my account), showing that the Obama campaign deliberately disabled AVS for its online donors…

The end result? “Donors” like “Doodad Pro” can submit tons of donations totaling well above the $2,300 limit using different bogus addresses (this does clarify how donations from “Palestine”, or PA, got through). And the campaign has no way to reliably de-dupe these donations, besides looking at the last four digits of the credit card number, which with 3.1 million donors is an identifier that could be shared by literally hundreds of donors, and is not as easy to eyeball like a common name or address would be. The ability to contribute with a false address, when the technology to prevent it not only exists but comes standard, is a green light for fraud.


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1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Did it go through on your credit card? Is it pending?

tru2tx on October 23, 2008 at 1:30 PM

It didn’t say.

I have take a trip to my bank today anyway.

I’ll put a stop on it.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 1:34 PM

No. You’re just a stupid peasant.

Ah. I see. That would explain the goat in my bedroom/toilet/ditch.

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:34 PM

I HATE myself for not being smart enought to make it for $0.01; I’m a tool.

God forgive me, I just gave $15 to an Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Anti-Semitic Anti-White Racist Marxist Muslim, who is going to destroy this country.

I feel like throwing up…

Dale in Atlanta on October 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Dale,

Go take a shower and scrub with steel wool—–say three “hail Sarahs” and we’ll forgive you—-this time!

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Dale,

Go take a shower and scrub with steel wool—–say three “hail Sarahs” and we’ll forgive you—-this time!

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Well, appreciate the words; but I’ll never forgive myself; shame on me…

Dale in Atlanta on October 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I program cc transactions. Pending means:

1. The charge is in the current batch of credit cards that will close when that batch closes.
2. Pending reduces the payer’s available balance by the amount, but is not yet transferred to the merchant.
3. When the batch closes, pending charges are all charged to the payer accounts, and funds are then transferred to the merchant’s bank account.
4. Batches can close once a day, once an hour, whenever the merchant decides it works for them. (My company is a small biz, we close our batches once a day because it’s easier to do the accounting that way.)

Yo, people, not accepting CVC (3 digit code) for online transactions VIOLATES the MC/VISA merchant agreement. Somebody who actually made a payment should complain, and reqeest MC/VISA investigate and require Obama to have each donation be verified to ensure the charge is not fraudulent. It would be up to MC/VISA to decide whether to pursue, they could just decide to let it go, I don’t think any laws have been broken, but I don’t know for sure…at our company, we follow all rules and all guidelines to make sure we never break any laws.

JustTruth101 on October 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I wonder if this, and the other breaking scandals, is why Obama is pushing so hard to get his people to vote early.

MarkTheGreat on October 23, 2008 at 1:37 PM

If Obama spends 1 billion dollars advertising his campaign, will any of you vote for him? Is there a dollar amount that could persuade you to vote for him?

If the answer is “no”, why all the talk of ‘buying’ elections?

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Can I mail them a bad check?

CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”

CapedConservative on October 23, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Yo, people, not accepting CVC (3 digit code) for online transactions VIOLATES the MC/VISA merchant agreement.

No they are not.

Visa/MC do not require the 3 digit code (yet). Discover charges merchants 50 cents if the code is not entered. Amex does not require it, either.

lorien1973 on October 23, 2008 at 1:39 PM

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM

I think to a certain extent, you can buy a chance at an election. If you run your side of the story and no one even knows the other guys name, chances are you’ll win just because people remember having heard of you when they go in to vote.

In the case of Obama and McCain, they’re both very well known at this point, so I don’t think Obama could buy an election. However, in a close race, being able to outspend your opponent can get you an edge and that might be all that’s needed.

Still, if either one of them were able to make a convincing case as to why they should be the next president, all the money in the world wouldn’t save the other guy.

JadeNYU on October 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM

If Obama spends 1 billion dollars advertising his campaign, will any of you vote for him? Is there a dollar amount that could persuade you to vote for him?

If the answer is “no”, why all the talk of ‘buying’ elections?

If an election can’t be bought, why the $2300 limit?

Tanya on October 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Lorien – for REMOTE transactions – yes it DOES. Are you looking at the March 2008 master card rules book? if so, look at page 136. if not, tell me what rule book you are looking at.

JustTruth101 on October 23, 2008 at 1:42 PM

If Obama spends 1 billion dollars advertising his campaign, will any of you vote for him? Is there a dollar amount that could persuade you to vote for him?

If the answer is “no”, why all the talk of ‘buying’ elections?

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM

If he pays people to take the mentally disabled to a polling site and force them to vote for him, or if he pays people cash for their votes, to give two examples off the top of my head, then he is trying to buy it.

Vashta.Nerada on October 23, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Isn’t it illegal to accept donations from people that don’t exist or are outside the United States?

Riposte on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Question: Is it possible that the website’s showing a “transaction confirmed” message before the transaction’s actually confirmed, and all these donations are being rejected later?

We will find out soon.

Theworldisnotenough on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

If the answer is “no”, why all the talk of ‘buying’ elections?

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Because there are a great many uninformed citizens that simply watch network TV and see something like an ad by Obama saying that McCain is going to cut social security and base their vote on that… even Annenberg called this ad a LIE along with, of all people, Shuster on MSNBC. That would be LIE (syn; untruth, Obama’s lips moving).

That ad gets paid for with MONEY. Shall I connect those two dots that are touching one another?

CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”

CapedConservative on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Because we are not the ones whose votes can be bought? We are not the gullible sheep lining up behind Osama Obama?

All evidence points to there being nearly enough in that crowd to put Obama over the top. And they were all paid with false promises, empty “visions” and an intense media bombardment.

MrScribbler on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Anyone tried to donate under the name…Osama Bin Laden?

THAT MIGHT GET NOTICED. The Osama Obama campaign will send a thank you note to the cave.

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Any one have a copy of Osama’s signiture—I want to make a donation.

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Isn’t it illegal to accept donations from people that don’t exist or are outside the United States?

Riposte on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Yes, it is. That is why Al Gore is in jail right now. Well, OK that’s a poor example, but yes it is illegal.

Vashta.Nerada on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Isn’t it illegal to accept donations from people that don’t exist or are outside the United States?

Riposte on October 23, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Legal, no… actually done… yes. They can do it using Visa/AMEX/or other “gift cards” that have an amount but no real name associated with it. Soros’ minions have been hard at work.

CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”

CapedConservative on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Credit card companies base their security on the affiliated bank. The system we use to reconcile payments looks at the card number, the date, the street number and zip code. It’s doesn’t care about the security number or the name.

Due to CC fraud at an all time high, the billing address of the card is what is in use for security in many systems.

Did you know that the secret service is in charge of CC fraud investigation? Do you have any idea how hard it is to get them to react to CC fraud?

Hening on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Any one have a copy of Osama’s signiture—I want to make a donation.

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Call Michelle Obama for an address. He lives next to Bill Ayers.

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Yes, it is. That is why Al Gore is in jail right now.
Vashta.Nerada on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

LMAO… Vashta wins the thread.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

HEY, you thought-you-were-so-cool CHUMPS who donated:

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY IMMEDIATELY AND ASK THEM TO CANCEL THE PAYMENT.

Next time, read THIS first:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/who-is-john-gal.html

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM

If I contribute $0.01 (one cent) to Obama……will that be a net loss to his campaign?

subbottomfeeder on October 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM

It would appear that Obama does not really support “card check.”

If the verifications are suddenly activated, then it would indicate that the campaign sees the potential for traction in the media. If they are not activated, then the campaign knows that the media will not mention it.

rw on October 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM

When you validate the credit cards, does it just reject it, or does it give you the valid credit card information to compare with the invalid info?

If it gives you the correct information to compare, is it possible that they are switching out bad information with correct info and processing anyway?

JadeNYU on October 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM

All you get is a rejection code.

factoid on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Now what great minds would have thought of this?

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

FWIW:

There are Obama-Beggars out on the street in and around Washington, DC…

…ASKING FOR DONATIONS!!!

THIS, after an ostensible $150 million September take.

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

JustTruth101 on October 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM

“Pending” is how I caught several hundred dollars’ charges on my credit card last Christmastime that I did not purchase, so I do know that it is a real sign that the charge will be accepted unless you pitch a fit that it was not authorized.
I had purchased gifts online (through ebay) and next thing I know someone had used my card to buy a bunch of video games. I’ve never purchased a video game in my life.

This has GOT TO BE the last straw on that proverbial camel that can take this fraud, lying, phony Chicago-thug (I am being redundant) DOWN!!

tru2tx on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

For the Hive, for the Swarm! Glory to the Many, you are a Voice in the Choir!

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Or, the one that freaks me out the most “Sacrifice me!”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Great! With everyone testing this to see just what the site does accept, I expect the next headlines to be:

Obama Support Surges! Millions raised from new donors.

OBQuiet on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

If I contribute $0.01 (one cent) to Obama……will that be a net loss to his campaign?

subbottomfeeder on October 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Donation site has a $5 minimum. Presumably to avoid/prevent such net losses.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

The MSM will focus on the scam that Allah and Steyn instigated, as opposed to O’s incompetence or intentional violations.

Rick on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Oops. I had the link wrong to the PBS Palin poll. Here is the correct one:

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

ErinF on October 23, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Update: Reader “Dale in Atlanta” says he tried it with a fake name and the transaction showed up on his credit card immediately — but marked “pending.” We’ll find out later today if it clears.

All pending means is the credit card company hasn’t actually posted the transaction to the account, it’s still being process – but processed it is.

Topsecretk9 on October 23, 2008 at 1:50 PM

FWIW:

There are Obama-Beggars out on the street in and around Washington, DC…

…ASKING FOR DONATIONS!!!

THIS, after an ostensible $150 million September take.

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

That speaks volumes.

Of course, they will need the practice – they will be begging for food if Obama pulls it out…

Vashta.Nerada on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

For the Hive, for the Swarm! Glory to the Many, you are a Voice in the Choir!

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Or, the one that freaks me out the most “Sacrifice me!”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

My Life for You! MY LIFE FOR YOU!!

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Someone send this thread to Patrick Fitzgerald. If any of the money clears, would this not be wire fraud?

Mr. D on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

I have set up these systems with a number of retail banks. Security features and filters really depend on the bank being used. For most merchant card systems the beneficiary has very little input on the security criteria but given the scale of these political contribution campaigns, I would not be surprised if they have their own independent systems.

In all these transactions the money does not actually clear through the entire process at the time you enter the card details and amount… even if you see the funds debit your account. Most of the actual clearing takes place on a weekly or monthly basis. Again, the campaigns will likely have their own staff working on compliance issues at the time the funds clear their accounts so it is likely that those transactions will be scrutinized later. The number of transactions would overwhelm even the best review efforts.

lexhamfox on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Considering that O!’s campaign finance chair ran her family’s bank into bankruptcy with the subprime mess, this is not really surprising.

JimK on October 23, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Of course it’s possible that it says its confirmed, without actually confirming it. The true test is whether or not it goes through.

I could slap together a website in 30 seconds that pretends to take a credit card number and then says its confirmed. :-)

DaveS on October 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM

tru2tx on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Yup, true. Good thing you caught it before the batch closed, then you would have had to do a chargeback.

I think the bottom line of whether a CVC is required or not is this: the rules say for internet transactions you need it. But that is just a RULE, it is NOT the law.

Once again, slick Barry can do whatever he wants.

JustTruth101 on October 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Unfortunately it was really stupid of some on here to send Obama money via this method.

Now the left can point to these donations and say “Look the right wing is sending phoney donations to Obama in attempt to smear him.”

They will refocus the story on that.

William Amos on October 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM

“Next question?”
“Senator Obama, how do you explain the large number of clearly fraudulent Democratic voter registrations collected by ACORN?”
“Look, you would not believe the vast and nefarious conspiracy my opponent’s campaign has running. For example, my aides have come across a far-right blog named ‘Hot Air’ — that is their actual name — where the regulars were discussing their exploits in making illegal donations under falsified names to my campaign with the sole purpose of being able to accuse me of collecting fraudulent donations. There is, unfortunately nothing, nothing, that is too dear to Senator McCain and his supporters when it comes to making me look bad.

Next question?”

factoid on October 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Now what great minds would have thought of this?

Rovin on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Great minds, my friend.

Osama Bin Laden Terrorist Industries
666 Cave Way
Gray Rock, Afghanistan 98666

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Someone send this thread to Patrick Fitzgerald. If any of the money clears, would this not be wire fraud?

Mr. D on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Perpetrated by Heywood and others here…

factoid on October 23, 2008 at 1:55 PM

If his campaign is guilty of fraud, that is a separate issue, I am simply addressing the idea that it is possible to ‘buy’ elections.

I think Jade is right. Money buys exposure. No amount of money is going to ‘buy’ my vote, however. I believe selling your vote is illegal, which is ironically what happens every 4 years – your vote in exchange for gubmint goodies – so in a sense, every election is bought….it’s just a question of how many layers of indirection can you stuff between a vote and the transfer of cash.

I wonder what would happen if Obama is elected, and we subsequently uncover massive evidence of electoral fraud perpetrated by his campaign and surrogates? He would have ‘plausible deniability’ of course, but there would be no question that his election was invalid. What procedure exists to recall such an illegitimate presidency? I am aware of none.

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:55 PM

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Damn! Beat me to it.

I was going to try the following

Charack OBarkley
1961 Kamel Urine Cave
Tora Bora, California 99998

Oh well.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

I wonder what would happen if Obama is elected, and we subsequently uncover massive evidence of electoral fraud perpetrated by his campaign and surrogates? He would have ‘plausible deniability’ of course, but there would be no question that his election was invalid. What procedure exists to recall such an illegitimate presidency? I am aware of none.

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 1:55 PM

McCain would do the same thing Nixon did when they had the goods on Kennedy… let it go for the good of the country.

CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”

CapedConservative on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

This has GOT TO BE the last straw on that proverbial camel that can take this fraud, lying, phony Chicago-thug (I am being redundant) DOWN!!

tru2tx on October 23, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Nope. Sorry. No way.

The Obama camp will just come out and say “we had a programming glitch” and “this is just a distraction by evil McCain supporters” and the MSM, if it reports on this at all, will just nod their heads and recite “glitch” and “distraction” in unison.

No story here for our crackerjack media, except how “negative” it is for anyone to have even thought of bringing it up in the first place…

Gilda on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Kamel Urine Cave, that’s a good one.

HornetSting on October 23, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Perpetrated by Heywood and others here…

factoid on October 23, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Yes, and Obama’s negligence is completely innocent…

Ain’t no innocent party in this one, bub.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM

The other underlying complaint is that there are too many stupid people that are sufficiently sheeplike that they can be effectively swayed with an expensive media bombardment.

Seems kinda dumb to allow such dummies to vote, doesn’t it?

Isn’t dumbocracy wonderful?

LimeyGeek on October 23, 2008 at 2:00 PM

I am soooo tempted to try this and use the name Hugo Chavez, or Kim Jong-il, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad… but I won’t give that weasel Obama a dime of my money, even for fun.

FlatFoot on October 23, 2008 at 2:00 PM

I’m skeptical that The One would be quite this blatant about things

I’m not. It dovetails in quite nicely with all the voter registration “oopsies” that ACORN (which Dear Leader Obamassiah has only a nodding acquaintance with) has, in multiple states.

No, a politician who comes up through Chicago can be guaranteed to be squeaky clean.

/sarc

rbj on October 23, 2008 at 2:00 PM

The Obama camp will just come out and say “we had a programming glitch” and “this is just a distraction by evil McCain supporters” and the MSM, if it reports on this at all, will just nod their heads and recite “glitch” and “distraction” in unison.

Gilda on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

At which point, McCain presses Obama to return the fraudulent money.

Sir Andrew on October 23, 2008 at 2:01 PM

factoid on October 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Needs more “uhhhhhhhhhhhhh”s.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Please post your links to the news stories that have reported that some people have discovered fraudulent charges to the Obama campagin on their card.

cryptojunkie on October 23, 2008 at 2:02 PM

I just tried it. Fake name, fake address, fake phone number, fake email. Lets see if it goes through.

I’ve have screen shots in case Hotair is interested.

Theworldisnotenough on October 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM

How very ACORNish of a strategy …

progressoverpeace on October 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM

I recently set up credit card processing for my startup company and the way it works is the vender (ie me, or Obama’s campaign) selects whether the info must match what is on the card. If they opt not to they accept the risk of being flagged after too many fradulent charges are reported by them to the credit card companies.

What would “being flagged” usually mean? What does a credit card company do with mere mortals when this happens?

MamaAJ on October 23, 2008 at 2:04 PM

At which point, McCain presses Obama to return the fraudulent money.

Sir Andrew on October 23, 2008 at 2:01 PM

but those time slots are already paid for..

Obama can give back IOU’s.. those are just as good as money..

DaveC on October 23, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Who is John Galt?

kelly Tejera on October 23, 2008 at 2:05 PM

IIRC, wasn’t the FEC neutered before this election by losing enough members to make a quorum impossible and Democrats blocking Bush’s appointment of new members?

cthulhu on October 23, 2008 at 2:06 PM

How many ‘Rosy Palm at 5 Sisters Avenue’ have donated?

DaveC on October 23, 2008 at 2:06 PM

All pending means is the credit card company hasn’t actually posted the transaction to the account, it’s still being process – but processed it is.

Topsecretk9 on October 23, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Topsecretk9 is correct; it IS “processed”; I’ve had this argument with my bank before; once a tranaction like that is “processed” into the “pending” category, there is NO way to stop it; they just wait until after Midnight, to make sure you have the money in your account.

If you do not have the money in your account, the put it thru any way, and then charge you a $35 “over draft” fee!

This transaction has been processed, and it WILl “clear” a midnight tonight and be official.

Accoring to my bank, once a charge like this comes thru, there is NO way to stop it from being deducted from your account.

Dale in Atlanta on October 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Gilda on October 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM

You’re probably right.

I think my head exploded five minutes ago anyway – because of Obama, I can see the end of civilization as we know it and he’s getting away with it.

tru2tx on October 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM

If the BHO campaign doesn’t have enough cash to return all fraudulent/illegal donations … do they get a government bailout?

progressoverpeace on October 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Update: Unbelievable.

F’in crooks. Flat out.

BadgerHawk on October 23, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Unless the Republicans decide to play by Obama rules, the rule breaking will go unnoticed.

mylegsareswollen on October 23, 2008 at 2:09 PM

I just e-mailed my 2 screen captures of my donation to Bambi from “Bill Ayers” over to Mark Steyn’s blog as proof of this scam.

Use it well Mark.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 2:12 PM

I’m shocked that …. never mind

corona on October 23, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Update: Unbelievable. Suddenly, after multiple blog readers had their phony donations accepted and this story started percolating on right-wing blogs, the security system is magically back in place.

How much money has been donated? If anyone gets charged, then it is definitely a clear case of wire fraud.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 23, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Update: Unbelievable. Suddenly, after multiple blog readers had their phony donations accepted and this story started percolating on right-wing blogs, the security system is magically back in place.

BUSTED.

Yeah, Believable.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

For the Hive, for the Swarm! Glory to the Many, you are a Voice in the Choir!

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Or, the one that freaks me out the most “Sacrifice me!”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM

My Life for You! MY LIFE FOR YOU!!

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Not that “My life for Aire” is much better…
Though I do get a kick out of “Are you trying to get invited to my next bar-b-que?”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

I just called my credit card company. They said it was ‘pending’ and I couldn’t cancel the charge. I could however dispute the charges after they post (3-5 days), my account would be credited and they would work it out with the merchant.

I was totally honest with them, and told them I didn’t think the website would take it without error.

Anyway, I had them note on my account that I did call and the reason.

Additionally, I had them immediately close my account with that number and issue me a new CC number since I thought that one was now compromised.

If you can’t trust them to check properly before processing, how can you trust that they will protect the number?

cryptojunkie on October 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Unbelievable. Suddenly, after multiple blog readers had their phony donations accepted and this story started percolating on right-wing blogs, the security system is magically back in place.

The Obama campaign knew what it was getting away with all along. This is criminal.

CP on October 23, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Use it well Mark.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 2:12 PM

I’m not smart enought to do “screen captures”; but Heywood JaBlowMee just donated $15 to Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SAW)(SWT)!

Dale in Atlanta on October 23, 2008 at 2:16 PM

dang, I was about todonate as:

Satan for Obama
666 Socialism-Slavery Way
Hell, UNIVERSE 66666-666

jp on October 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Not that “My life for Aire” is much better…
Though I do get a kick out of “Are you trying to get invited to my next bar-b-que?”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

I love those games. I used to, before I really knew how to play them, sit and click just to hear everything the characters would say. Awesome stuff.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 2:18 PM

The Republican National Committee (RNC) today filed a supplement to its complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against the Obama for America campaign addressing its acceptance of foreign national and excessive contributions, donations from unknown sources, and demonstrated lack of oversight or concern for compliance with the law.

It’s going to take a lot more oversight than filing complaints if the RNC wants to protect the integrity of this election. They need to be out there demanding independent observers at each and every polling place in every state where ACORN is under investigation. They need to demand positive identification (state-issued documents) before allowing a single vote to be cast. They need to pore over the absentee and provisional ballots as if it were a hanging chad in Post-election Florida 2000.

In short, the RNC needs to be out acting as if the Democrats are evil corrupt partisans. Because they are and the GOP candidate simply doesn’t have the appeal to overcome the corruption by the preponderance of the votes cast.

highhopes on October 23, 2008 at 2:18 PM

UPDATE: BUSTED

Doggoneit, don’t you all just love technology?

The donations heard round the world.

I hope.

Over..

1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM

The Obama campaign knew what it was getting away with all along. This is criminal.

CP on October 23, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Of course. Next up, Barry’s speech in which he throws his head tech guy under the bus for failing to follow the rules. He’ll also point to the righty bloggers and republicans as instigators.

Rick on October 23, 2008 at 2:20 PM

He’ll also point to the righty bloggers and republicans as instigators.

Rick on October 23, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Bring it Bambi! I’ve got nothing to hide.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on October 23, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Name: Nodda Realperson
Address: 1000 This Is a Bogus Street
City/State: Neighborhood of Makebelieve, CA
Email: if.a.live.person.is.vetting.this.donation@its.fake.dont.process.it.com
Employer: Barack Obama
Occupation: Cow-Eyed Disciple

Awesome.

BadgerHawk on October 23, 2008 at 2:23 PM

I love those games. I used to, before I really knew how to play them, sit and click just to hear everything the characters would say. Awesome stuff.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 2:18 PM

My only claim to fame is low loss numbers on story maps. I can’t pass timed levels and I always get my @$$ handed to me against live opponents.
“What is your major malfunction?”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Yep, its all about Hope and Change isn’t it. Inspite of everything we know about this charlatan, the color of his skin will carry the day.

dmann on October 23, 2008 at 2:25 PM

BTW, Paypal also generates virtual credit cards along with many other companies. COmbine that with no authentication or verification of names or addresses, and well…heh

YellowDawg on October 23, 2008 at 2:25 PM

We all know what will happen here: The FEC will issue a slap on the wrist AFTER the election is over.

Socratease on October 23, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Name: Nodda Realperson
Address: 1000 This Is a Bogus Street
City/State: Neighborhood of Makebelieve, CA
Email: if.a.live.person.is.vetting.this.donation@its.fake.dont.process.it.com
Employer: Barack Obama
Occupation: Cow-Eyed Disciple

LMAO!!!

My only claim to fame is low loss numbers on story maps. I can’t pass timed levels and I always get my @$$ handed to me against live opponents.
“What is your major malfunction?”

Count to 10 on October 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I’m not ashamed to admit I used cheatcodes, especially for Warcraft; Starcraft wasn’t so bad, for some reason. After too many failed attempts to beat a certain stage and progress in the story, I’d get frustrated and use a work-around. I wanted to know what happened next in the story, dangit!

Not so much now, but then again I am ~10 years older now.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I would assume that we could consider this stealing the election.

benrand on October 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM

We all know that this will poo-poo’d and swept under the rug as it is, if not outright ignored by the putrid vile slithering creatures of the MSM.

And even if someone actually does investigate this, and fraud on a massive level is discovered, it will be way too late anyway since it would take a year if not years to make a case, if Barack Hussein Obama wins the election. And, even if the FEC or any government agency even dares touch this thing, all President Barack Hussein Obama need do is blame someone else and/or play the race card and he’s all good.

So, you see, none of this matters in the least when all is finally said and done. He is the Obamassiah. He is The One. He is the Teflon Don, and nothing will ever change that.

FlatFoot on October 23, 2008 at 2:32 PM

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