Philly columnist: Hey, we really are racists here in PA
posted at 12:30 pm on October 22, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I suspect that John McCain may be closing the gap in Pennsylvania, even without looking at the numbers. Why? Because more Keystone State figures keep talking about how racist their neighbors are. John Murtha accused his constituents of racism and then backed off to just call them rednecks. Now Philadelphia Daily News columnist John Baer picks up where Murtha left off:
I think McCain’s camp is banking on Pennsylvania’s “cracker factor.”
I think the campaign believes the Democratic view – expressed by Ed Rendell last winter and Jack Murtha last week (and James Carville 22 years ago) – that there are racist tendencies among Pennsylvania voters. …
So, if you take the most recent polling – an Allentown Morning Call poll Sunday is reflective of others and puts Obama 12 points up, 52-40 – I figure McCain’s folks figure, well, heck, that’s really only 7 points and since most polls have a 3-point margin of error, maybe just 4 points, and that puts us right in the game.
Meanwhile, McCain’s campaign, in TV ads and on the stump, is calling Obama’s tax- cut proposal a “government handout” and “welfare.” McCain yesterday said it’s “just another government giveaway.”
Whom do you think that’s aimed at?
Gee, I don’t know, John — maybe people who don’t want to keep funding redistributionist policies? Perhaps people who don’t want taxes increased? Taxpayers who want the approaching entitlement meltdown to get fixed before creating even more entitlements?
Or are those concepts just a little too complicated for your “sophisticated” noggin?
This is what happens when the supposedly post-racial Obama campaign explicitly exploits racism as a campaign tactic. Suddenly, every policy dispute becomes “racist”, even the most fundamental debates on the nature of government. McCain can’t even argue against a tax policy without being accused of pandering to the drooling rednecks Baer and Murtha suddenly see surrounding them.
I’ve warned about this for months. People like Baer and Murtha want to silence debate because they don’t have the answers for it. They need to hide their own ignorance and stupidity by making baseless accusations in hopes of declaring vast areas of public policy off limits for discussion. Quite frankly, it’s become the mark of stupidity and intolerance in this campaign — and it will get a lot worse if Barack Obama wins the election.
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this IS the sort of thing which CAN resonate: people will sometimes make a voting decision against someone who insults them directly.
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM
LOL at the front pic. (Yeah, I laughed. So what.)
baldilocks on October 22, 2008 at 12:36 PM
NICE!
How ignorant of people, to stoop this low is BEYOND me.
Someone help me up…. the stupidity has me on the floor.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:36 PM
John Murtha is the racist. Anyone who derides such a wide swath of people based on race…. is the racist!
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:37 PM
A couple questions on this. Firstly, when has the Obama campaign ever claimed to be post-racial? I could very well be wrong but it seems like he himself has never claimed to be a “post-racial” figure or run a post-racial campaign, the media and conservatives has just projected this onto him.
And if this is so, why does he need to be post-racial? Why is it that white candidates are never required to be post-racial?
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I used to live just NE of Philly and can attest to the fact that most whites I knew did not like black people.
But let me clarify that point. Their dislike had nothing to do with the “blackness” or physical charasteristics of blacks but rather it was an utter disdain for the attitude and politics of the black community in nearby Philadelphia. I lived in PA when the radical black organization MOVE set an entire city block on fire. I don’t recall what they were protesting but most of us were just dumbfounded that they wouldset public housing on fire. Blacks in Philly, and in most large cities, have a disgusting and tiring attitude of being victims and are felt that they are owed something by whites. It is extremely vocal in the NE. Most whites long ago fled the “city of brotherly love” for the suburbs and exurbs.
If whites are racists then why do we get along so well with Asians and Indians?
I hate whites afflicted with Liberal guilt.
DerKrieger on October 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Mmmm crackers….
Dash on October 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Nah, has nothing to do with those “spread the wealth around” comments and policies. Has nothing to do with his character and or associations. Probably doesnt have much to do with the “bitter, clinging to guns and religon” comments. Couldnt be any of that could it? Its all because we’re racists. If it weren’t so laughable it could make you mad. Wait, maybe we are sick and tired of Democrats calling us racists when we reject their liberalism and socialism and ignorance to running ANYTHING!
OSUBuciz1 on October 22, 2008 at 12:41 PM
John M. Baer is also a racist. He just used the “N-word” that applies to whites, which is “cracker.” But of course since the offending word was directed at white people, he will get a pass and the media will not call attention to his racism.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I am an American of Cuban descent and I love galletas (crackers)!
Continue on MSM. You pissed off the PUMAs and now, piss off a race of people that count for the majority in this country.
I am counting off the days for the McCain/Palin presidency.
jencab on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
If I have to be a cracker, can I at least be a Ritz?
BacaDog on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
LOL.
Haven’t heard “noggin” from anybody but my racist white grandmother in years.
misterpeasea on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I wish I could, but I’ve fallen…and I can’t get up.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
stupid questions from a pedophile troll
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
LOL. So, he’s running a campaign based on race? Is that what you are trying to say?
a capella on October 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM
stupid questions from a pedophile troll
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I’ll take it. He can complain all he wants about racism. In this particular case, it will do the left more harm than good. As long as McCain responds apporopriately.
People don’t like being called racist. This is one case where Obama’s camp consistently goes too far and damages themselves. The negative spin reflects on them.
McCain should use this to their advantage by responding. Keep it in the news. Keep it positive, and keep it clean.
The RED SHIFT is coming!
connertown on October 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I am not big on pedophiles, but accusations of a person is just as wrong. Either you show proof or STFU and ignore and move on.
Just my opinion and I am sticking to it.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM
And I vomit disdainful laughter at those blacks that whine about slavery and racism.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Being a cracker myself, I know crackers!! Try a Townhouse Cracker, they are much better than Ritz.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Limbaugh is on a tear now about the prospect of riots after the election. “Welcome to the land of Barack Obama.”
I must admit, that the prospect of riots after the election is depressing – what cheers me up is the fact that they will rioting in protest of McCain’s election.
The racist card is backfiring. One tires of being called a racist if he doesn’t vote for the black guy and may end up voting against him out of sheer spite.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM
WTF? Gimme the ban hammer…..
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Probably they’re trying to pump up the White Guilt enough to carry the election.
petefrt on October 22, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I am pilot bread. A huge round cracker…
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Crackers are people too. Perhaps there are more of them than the elite MSM think. Obama’s campaign should reach out to them, they’ve reached out to everyone else.
Tommy_G on October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Giant Wheat Thin here, with a hunk of stilton
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Time to go to the street corner and start selling my;
“Proud to be a Racist – McCain/Palin ‘08” Tee-shirts
Seven Percent Solution on October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I heard that too. Riots if he wins in celebration and riots if he looses in protest. WHo do we turn to on said riots? All the police and security people here in my town are black. Nice.
johnnyU on October 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Only with salad. For beer cheese spread, only a Ritz will do.
Crap. Since I like beer cheese, that must make me a redneck. If that’s the case, I must be a lowly saltine.
BacaDog on October 22, 2008 at 12:50 PM
So? So what if they are black? They are there to protect and serve.. not riot along with the people. Gimme a Break!
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Messrs Smith & Wesson
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Don’t believe it. I wouldn’t trust the black cops of DC as far as I could spit.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Then they shouldn’t be Cops now should they!
BTW.. Wooten is finally going to have someone at the Union possibly letting him go. I am PRAYING!
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I’m saying he should be allowed to talk about racial issues as much as a white candidate, he can’t though because the media handcuffs him. Imagine what would happen if he had run a “Two America’s” type campaign like Edwards, or if he had simply spent a significant amount of time highlighting urban school reform, affirmative action and white collar crime. People would say he was “the black candidate” and that he was just “looking after his own kind”. He’d get marginalized quickly.
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
crr6 calls everyone racist, and seems oddly interested in my and other people’s childhood.
and criticizes conservatives and Republicans, like clockwork
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
I hope those racist “cracka-ass-crackas” toss Murtha out on his inept, corrupt, liberal hate-monger ass….and vote McCain too!
HawaiiLwyr on October 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Somebody please explain this to me. Both the N-word and cracker are racist terms…. right? So why is it that if someone uses the N-word the entire media goes nuclear from coast-to-coast, but the media itself routinely uses the racist term “cracker” with glee, as if its not a racist term. How do they get away with such an obvious double standard? Someone please explain that to me because I don’t understand it.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Has apparently had one too many cups of coffee and been appointed Official Troll Policeman.
misterpeasea on October 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Try this on a Carr’s Water Cracker: I call it Hors d’Oeuvres de Michelle Ma Belle.
Mix 1 tablespoon of fine red lumpfish caviar (Romanoff brand – you can get it in the supermarket)with 4 tablespoons of Breakstone sour cream. Slice a steamed lobster tail into medallions. Spoon a dollop of the caviar/sour cream mix onto the cracker and place a lobster medallion on top. Dust with a quick sprinkle of cracked pepper.
Delicious.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Don’t worry hawaii. You will be called a Pineapple and I will be called a Moose or a Caribou.
I think I would rather be called a fruit.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
That’s raaacist! Everybody knows Townhouse are white & Ritz are brown(ish)!
Badger40 on October 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
wonder what percent of racist hillary voters in Penn. need to either not vote or vote McCain for obama to lose there? has to be some number they are shooting for?
jp on October 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
And BTW-those Carr’s Water Crackers are REALLY white
Badger40 on October 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Oddly interested…how? I’m confused, Janos. Has this person spoken of molesting children or expressed a desire to molest them?
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I look at riot preparations the same way as hurricane preparations down here… stock up on non-perishable food, water, alcohol, and ammo.
Thankfully for me, I’ve still got supplies of at least 3 of those 4 left over from Gustav.
teke184 on October 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Ever had rice crackers?
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
AND…I am a garlic triscuit with cream cheese on top…
HawaiiLwyr on October 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Carr’s Water Crackers? You must be one of those rich republicans to afford those.
/sarc off
BacaDog on October 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
God I’m so sick of all this racist crap. If you criticize Obama, you’re a racist. If you don’t vote for Obama, you’re a racist. Racism has been dumbed down for this election to where it is essentially meaningless.
We are now left with the choice of at least four years of the ‘racism’ sword being hung over our heads with President Obama or at least four years of being told that our country is incredibly racist.
Queasy on October 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Ohhhh I am with Hawaii on the Garlic Triscuit!
Hawaii.. try some Kenai Cheese Dip!
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Ummmm….stilton…and a glass of Sandeman Ruby Port.
*drools like Homer Simpson*
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Quite right. However, “shouldn’t” is not much consolation.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM
A very good, more low-brow snack is Keebler Club crackers topped with some boiled or baked ham (cold cut style) and followed up with baby sweet gerkhins.
This was my childhood favorite.
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Trivia question for you LimeyGeek. Why were the Limey’s called Limey’s? Don’t cheat and look it up because I bet you don’t know. Do you know?
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Carr’s Water Crackers? You must be one of those rich, racist, sexist, homophobic republicans to afford those.
Fixed it.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Who’s trolling in this thread? You are. Please say something at least remotely substantive or buzz off.
Oh and you’re starting to creep me out with the constant pedophile accusations. Project much?
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Are they racist Japanese?
I’m here all week…..
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Trivia question for you LimeyGeek. Why were the Limey’s called Limey’s? Don’t cheat and look it up because I bet you don’t know. Do you know?- Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Citrus to avoid scurvy on naval vessels. That was easy.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:00 PM
This whole campaign,from the Liberal Democrats,revovles
around RACE!
The Liberal Democratic Party has moved their own
“Civil War” within their “Own Party”,now to every
little town,city and subrubs,and streets of America!
Hence,the perception of Pennslyvania as ‘red necks crap’!
——————————————————
While i’m on a roll!
This is not what Martin Luther King wanted,and I dare
say,this is no different than Islamic fundamentalists
hijacking the Muslim religion,in the same regard as
Obama is hijacking this ELECTION through painting every
AMERICAN as RACISTS!
I warned 6 months ago for Republicans stay out of this
besmirchment of the African American voters!
And Republicans did just that!
They stuck to the issues!
But,the MSM,and Obama have shoved this crap,into
every crack and cranny of this American Election!!!!!!!!
This sh#t has gota stop!!!!
canopfor on October 22, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Of course I bloody know. You lose the bet.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:01 PM
A nickname earned during WW1, from Americans none less :)
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Well I could be called a coconut – since most people in the lower 48 think we live in palm trees anyway.
HawaiiLwyr on October 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM
No…. Zesta’s are white, and they are yummy. If that’s racist, so be it.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM
When I disagreed with crr6, it called me ‘racist’ right away and spent two post asking inappropriate and suggestive questions about what I did as a child.
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:03 PM
I didn’t know until recently. Something I’ve heard all my life but never knew why. It’s not a bad thing by the way.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:04 PM
This is a calculated play on white guilt and it may just swing voters the other way that is to help Obama. It has been a lamentable year to see the USA election Zimbabwenized.
wepeople on October 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM
I’m an oyster cracker. Love them suckers in soup. White, small, and oddly shaped. That’s me.
I also like the water crackers, the ones with cracked pepper. Heck, I like most crackers.
/will be on the first train to reeducation camp, dontchaknow, ’cause of my cracker love
Anna on October 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM
If we call Michael Vick a dog abuser, is that racist, too?
chachi
cpr on October 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM
I don’t know about this magical Kenai Cheese Dip – but researching it right now. Thanks!
HawaiiLwyr on October 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM
So Murtha says Rev. Wright is correct? Good, we can air clips from his sermons then.
marklmail on October 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Well, he seems understandably reluctant to talk about urban school reform, since we all know how well that went with the pesky Annenberg Challenge thing, which he would probably prefer remain in the background. Affirmative action won’t get him any traction because reparations for slavery lurks just around that bend and we all know it. White collar crime? Fitzgerald seems to be actively involved in pursuing that in the Rezko and Chicago political machine relationships. So, perhaps Obama prefers to avoid those subjects, but not because of race. Do you think any of that makes him just a bit uneasy?
a capella on October 22, 2008 at 1:07 PM
On a thread about Alcee Hastings, you didn’t even know he was a man rather than a woman. You threw up the ‘racist’ charge right away, and then did spend two posts asking inappropriate questions and making suggestive remarks about my childhood
That IS substantive regarding what you are, and what your methods are. You started this thread my implying that all white politicians who don’t follow your agenda are racist
if you’re ‘creeped out’, that’s good–but you’ve been worse than that for a while
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Rethink that. ‘Tis slang for “gay” where I hail from ;)
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Were they the kind of questions asked to taunt or the kind of questons asked by a pedophile?
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I would give you the recipe… but ManlyRash would kick my butt since I am making a cook book.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Yep, they were always eating limes to avoid scurvy.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Then call me jerky!
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM
I likes mah crackers wit cheese wiz
Kini on October 22, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Okay, guys, I think we got it.
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM
This is the same paper that ran an article a while back predicting (threatening) riots if Dear Leader is not elected on Nov. 4.
james23 on October 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Not gonna happen…ever. Blacks only constitute 10% of the population. And a sizable percentage of the majority strongly supports their Second Amendment rights through gun ownership – which will increase dramatically when this election is over, even after a McCain victory.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Dude, if that’s all you’re going to post, fuck off. Calling names is one thing. Accusations like that are way over the line.
I can’t wait to see Murtha try and defend his seat again.
MadisonConservative on October 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Moose or caribou jerky? Another card for the recipe file, under SuperBowl Snacks.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Oh you just learned something…. admit it :-)
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
You really wish to be associated with male masturbation?
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Uh huh. here’s the exchange.
First I was randomly insulted by Janos when I hadn’t even addressd him.
I responded…
Then he said…
My response…
Then Janos decided that I’m a pedophile based on that post saying…
Judge for yourself.
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
More likely, I would sulk and pout.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
That works…
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Trying to shame people into voting for Obama by calling them racist doesn’t work very well when people know they aren’t racist. Your mind would have to be pretty weak to just go “yeah, I must be racist because you called me one and to make amends I must vote Obama”.
And the real racists don’t give a damn what people call them because societal peer pressure hasn’t worked on them to this point. Why would it now? I just don’t see this tactic paying off.
SKYFOX on October 22, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Man, what happened to talking about crackers? Pedophiles, masturbation, wild meat jerky and citrus fruits. What is this post coming too?
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Hey, that rhymes and has a catchy beat. Sounds sorta like rap.
a capella on October 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM
crr6, please just ignore it. He took it way over the top.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Ona cracker you can put just about anything!
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
That’s IT?
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Exactly. Obama preens about as the absolute moral authority on racism…. while calling everyone else a racist. What a commie!!
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Well, to be honest, your retorts were mightily twattish, but nothing that justifies any accusation of pedophilia.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
crr6 wasn’t taunting: it seemed interested in what I did as a child in various situations
Read my 1:08 post, and don’t tell me what to do.
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM
No, I knew that tidbit.
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Are you british?
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM
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