Philly columnist: Hey, we really are racists here in PA
posted at 12:30 pm on October 22, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I suspect that John McCain may be closing the gap in Pennsylvania, even without looking at the numbers. Why? Because more Keystone State figures keep talking about how racist their neighbors are. John Murtha accused his constituents of racism and then backed off to just call them rednecks. Now Philadelphia Daily News columnist John Baer picks up where Murtha left off:
I think McCain’s camp is banking on Pennsylvania’s “cracker factor.”
I think the campaign believes the Democratic view – expressed by Ed Rendell last winter and Jack Murtha last week (and James Carville 22 years ago) – that there are racist tendencies among Pennsylvania voters. …
So, if you take the most recent polling – an Allentown Morning Call poll Sunday is reflective of others and puts Obama 12 points up, 52-40 – I figure McCain’s folks figure, well, heck, that’s really only 7 points and since most polls have a 3-point margin of error, maybe just 4 points, and that puts us right in the game.
Meanwhile, McCain’s campaign, in TV ads and on the stump, is calling Obama’s tax- cut proposal a “government handout” and “welfare.” McCain yesterday said it’s “just another government giveaway.”
Whom do you think that’s aimed at?
Gee, I don’t know, John — maybe people who don’t want to keep funding redistributionist policies? Perhaps people who don’t want taxes increased? Taxpayers who want the approaching entitlement meltdown to get fixed before creating even more entitlements?
Or are those concepts just a little too complicated for your “sophisticated” noggin?
This is what happens when the supposedly post-racial Obama campaign explicitly exploits racism as a campaign tactic. Suddenly, every policy dispute becomes “racist”, even the most fundamental debates on the nature of government. McCain can’t even argue against a tax policy without being accused of pandering to the drooling rednecks Baer and Murtha suddenly see surrounding them.
I’ve warned about this for months. People like Baer and Murtha want to silence debate because they don’t have the answers for it. They need to hide their own ignorance and stupidity by making baseless accusations in hopes of declaring vast areas of public policy off limits for discussion. Quite frankly, it’s become the mark of stupidity and intolerance in this campaign — and it will get a lot worse if Barack Obama wins the election.
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Seaweed Rice Crackers & a slab of blue saga.
Now you’re talking.
fogw on October 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Yup. Upinak’s Teriyaki Caribou Jerky. O man…this thing has bestseller written all over it.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Go a little easy on Janos, his condition is still medically undefined, so no effective treatment exists. Leave him alone and he will go away eventually.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Give me a break you are grasping at straws.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:19 PM
you left out your other post.
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:20 PM
‘Ere’s a big gold star for ya guv’na
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM
At this point….I don’t even care. Call me a racist.
Fine. I’ll be your racist.
Now, get out of my way and allow me to vote.
Thanks!
bridgetown on October 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Mmmm ___ on a Ritz. Goooood cracker!
So, dumb question, is moose or elk better? Down here in the lower 48 we don’t get many moose, and I have yet to try it.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Sorry, Janos. Unless you can site any other instances where crr6 said anything more inflammatory or over-the-top than what was quoted to me, it seems the epithet you used is rather extreme.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM
The Daily News is the paper most read by the black population in Philly, although its editors and most of its writers are white. But most people only read it for the sports page anyway. It ceased being relevant editorially a long time ago.
rockmom on October 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Venison sausage on a plain Triscuit with a thin slab of cheddar is wonderful.
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Elk tastes more like deer. Moose tastes like Buffalo, in my opinion. If you have had Buffalo… make it a little bit leaner and that is what moose tastes like.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM
you’re correct it was Obambi that pointed out he doesn’t look like the presidents on our money. and he has a ‘funny name’
his assumption, as transparent as it is, is that HE of course has moved beyond race and it’s a shame that others will focus on his race and vote
foragainst himneal7 on October 22, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Black pudding on toast with lard
F yeah
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Stop it Stop it Stop! I haven’t had lunch yet.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Ok I have to get stuff done.. busy day at work and I can’t stay on the computer.
have a great one everyone.
Manly.. email me the ideas…. I will start working on some of them tonight.
upinak on October 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I concur
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Actually I don’t know if the people of Pennsylvania are rednecks or racist at all. But I do know if they re-elect Murtha, the man that called them racist/rednecks, then no doubt, the people that voted for him are morons.
Maxx on October 22, 2008 at 1:25 PM
A great friend of mine lives in Philly. He’s like a talking points poster for Obama. Great guy, hard working that’s telling me that Obama is for the working man.
Good grief.
Let’s see Obama in a powdered wig and then I’ll decide. I already know all us white guys look alike.
Hening on October 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Mmmmmm, I’ve had buffalo, (best protein on the planet) so if moose is anything like – I need me some moose.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Sick, bloke. You guys will eat anything with toast.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:29 PM
My bumper is getting crowded: Moose antlers, a plunger, and now a box of saltines (they’re the whitest).
BitterClinger on October 22, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Hawaii is the lowest state
DarkCurrent on October 22, 2008 at 1:30 PM
there was another post, but you’re right about my use of ‘pedophile’: it was wrong to use it, and I apologize to crr6 and to anyone who was offended.
crr6 is a relentlessly anti-conservative and anti-Republican troll who comes to Hotair to damage threads and insult anyone who disagrees with it, but I should not have tossed out that term.
I retract / withdraw it, and regret I said it
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:31 PM
+1 for Janos.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Read my 1:12 post again, and take your own advice.
MadisonConservative on October 22, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Is black pudding also blood pudding? If so, I had it years ago when visiting he Mother Country. It was delicious. Also had homemade spotted dick for dessert.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Done and done. Time to move on.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Stupidity abounds in the media, the candidates (politicians are not generally intelligent – they’d be otherwise gainfully employed if they were), and hopefully not so much in the electorate, M.R.’s predictions aside.
What an interesting thread this turned out to be. Who knew that limes/citrus weren’t to scurvy/Limeys, what Kraut is to Germans? Quick replies, nice…
I was about to ask you, Manly, to get yourself out of the stupor (being down), when you provided us an elegant caviar recipe, proving that you’d left your state already. Never boring with you.
On the Alaskan cookbook, or any other, your marketing strategy aside, upinak and M.R. could open up to HA for ideas, then market the books right here. We all could find at least 100 others who’d buy them. Then they’d market themselves…If you have bigger/better plans, ignore.
Come to think of it – we could create an HA cookbook…
Now I feel weird for having typed all this, but not sorry.
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Sure, it’s because I’m a racist because I don’t want to cast my vote for an inexperienced, unqualified, far-left jackass in Obama, for President.
I can’t think of one single reason to vote for Barack Obama for dog catcher in fact, but really, it’s because I’m a racist that I’m not voting for this clown.
Unbelievable for what passes for “thinking” on the lunatic left.
NoDonkey on October 22, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Takes a big man to do that. Another +1 for Janos
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:41 PM
There is one good thing about the Flatline Media this year……the racist thing has now jumped the frickin’ shark.
I’m done with this lie meant to play on white guilt.
The racists in this election are the ones voting for Obama, not for the content of his character, but the color of his skin.
They are trying to elect President O.J.
Let’s give ‘em a different verdict.
Let’s roll!
ex-Democrat on October 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Yeah. It gets its color from the blood. It ranks up there with haggis for awesomeness.
Spotted dick and custard…..*drool*
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM
John M. (don’t you dare leave out the “M.”, Ed) Baer was a PR flack for the RINO Little Billy Scranton when he ran for Gov. of Pa. against the real Bob Casey back in 1986. James Carville whipped his ass with a hippie ad in the last week of the campaign and he hasn’t been the same since. Baer is what passes for conservatism in the Philly papers, esp. since Michael Smurfconish (who has columns in both papers, plus his talk show) revealed his true blue colors by coming out for Obambi this past weekend.
Rockmom, I’m down to buying the Daily News for the sports section and Fridays, when my friend Christine Flowers writes. (I think she’s a PUMA, but she hasn’t admitted it yet.) Best place to read about Flyers, Phillies, Eagles, 76ers and Big Five hoops.
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Being fully aware about how proud and stubborn Hungarians are, I purposely stayed out of it. However, my friend, I’m very proud of you. crr6, as leftie as possible, is intelligent and sometimes reasonalbe, and loves honest discussions, even in lots of disagreement. Your valiant/gallant gesture is appreciated by self, and hopefully by crr6. Real men do exist, as you, and Manly last night, proved.
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM
I’ve never been so glad that we won our independence.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM
BTW, what about us Coal Crackers?
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 1:46 PM
In the interests of ‘fairness’, we should weight each black vote in proportion with their percentage in the population.
If we’re going to have an affirmative action POTUS, let’s do the fuckin’ job right.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:46 PM
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Heh, got that as a spoof for my birthday. They didn’t know that I knew what it was already (your latter line :)
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 1:46 PM
lol :)
President Obama or a mouthful of black pudding? Your choice….
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Does anybody realize the extent to which black people have been trained to hate white people?
jay12 on October 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM
McCain’s chances in Pa – not sure. Phillies’ chances against the Rays – nada. Tampa in five.
whitetop on October 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM
LimeyGeek,
None of the above.
Thanks a lot.
I’ll take a half-dozen pierogi, light on the onions and sour cream.
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM
That’s not a choice.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Is there something we should know?
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM
You’re heading off down a dark path, sonny jim.
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Pirogi for me too….delicious!
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM
— from a rice cake (what I was called on another board once LOL)
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 22, 2008 at 1:51 PM
supposed to be:
Welcome from a rice cake.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Yes, that’s why racism in the election is so toxic. And also why it’s such a powerful issue. It’s us against them, any minority vs the majority.
Colin Powell did a great job with the Muslim/President thing, wish he would with the race card.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Yeah, but the English have really cool accents and are great gardeners.
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM
I thought I had a dirty mind. Yes, something we should know, Entelchy?
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM
You forgot the teef, don’t forget the teef
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Either are ok if you don’t know what they’re made of. 3 slices of black pudding for me.
DarkCurrent on October 22, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Rollin’ on, ex-Democrat.
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 1:57 PM
The term “racism”, as “liberal” and “progressive”, has been hyjacked. They’ve lost their meaning and no one cares any longer. The Obamas will have done more to set back racial progress, than anyone in the last 30 years. To crr6, Obama has not run as a unifier, as a president for all Americans. The claim, not by you, but by the ‘lovers’, is extremely false.
Heh, the name is misleading. It’s really just a pudding. Yes, BigD, on the accent and the gardening. I’d add their Mr. Bean type of humor. Either one gets it, or is poorer for not getting it…no in between.
Takes time, but last night’s QoD thread…
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Your minds might be on dirt. Mine was on gallantry/valiance. I explained/referred at 1:57 PM.
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Don’t forget Peter Sellers and the Pythons (though John Cleese disappoints me intensely with his support of Obambi).
And now for something completely different… a political candidate with three a$$holes! Meet John Murtha.
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM
you’re such a Sweetie………
( I’m quoting Obama, so it’s Okay )
But I still can’t agree with you about the ‘no Real Men’ in politics & public life thing, because McCain proved that if there is such a thing as a Real Man, he is one. Or was, and lost his way….
I think it was Gertrude Stein who criticized the term “he-man” which appeared in the polular culture in the 1920s–by saying that it was hard enough to be a man, and talking about ‘he-men’ was being unfair as well as unrealistic
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM
lol nice retort :)
LimeyGeek on October 22, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Oh, Entelechy, we were just teasing you. All that stuff about Manly proving how manly he was last night was too rich an opportunity. Now all about gallantry and valiance ….. are you a romance writer?
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM
You may call me sweetie any time you wish, without quoting anyone. I’m not a feminist, just a highly independent woman, who’s never, ever, been discriminated against. No one would dare.
I’ll give you the argument. I was very upset that day and referred to the pretend-real-men, such as Powell.
b.t.w. European guests-for-Obama left and I’m exhausted. I need a vacation from my vacation.
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Yes. I wonder if Asians consider them racist?
Badger40 on October 22, 2008 at 2:12 PM
BigD on October 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM
You may tease any time. I asked for it, and am laughing my tush off, now that you explained it. I’m an easy target, and like Reagan, can laugh harder at self than anyone.
No, but if I had a penny for every time someone said “Why don’t you write a book?” I’d be much richer than I already am. Maybe when upinak and Manly are done with their cookbook, he and I will hook up an co-author a novel. It will have romance in it, but the plot will be about much more than just that.
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 2:14 PM
I lived in Landsdown just outside of west Philly when the Move fire happened. The Move idiots didn’t start the fire the police department did under the fine leadership of Mayor Wilson B. Good. The fire department didn’t start fighting the fire until huge tracks of west Philly were on fire, mainly because they were justifiably afraid of getting shot at by the people barricaded into the Move house. Also, this was a middle class mainly black neighborhood not public housing.
I pointed this out a few days ago when the whole Murtha thing first happened, the part of PA that Philly pols like to call Alabama in the middle, voted for the black guy running for governor in the last election. Lynn Swann was the Republican who ran an unsuccessful campaign against Fast Eddy Rendell. Swann to refresh your memory is black and a well liked former Pittsburgh Steeler. Rendell carried Philly, Pittsburgh, oh and Murtha’s district in Western central PA. Harrisburg, York, Lancaster, Allentown, Reading, Gettysburg, Hanover and pretty much everything in between went for Swann, and I suspect most will go for McCain in November. So they voted for a black Republican in 2006 but now they’re all RACISTS because they won’t vote for a far left Democrat who happens to be 50% black? Could it be they are conservative, hunters and people who go to church on Sunday who tend to vote Republican? Nah, lets think the worst of them.
Sparky on October 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Ditto. Very hard to resist. Sorry.
trailboss on October 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM
trailboss, nothing to be sorry about. Made me laugh out loud, once I realized the source of your amuzement :)
Entelechy on October 22, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Obama has become a stangely cult-like figure all over Europe, especially in Old Europe but even in the east; part rock-star and part motivational speaker, where you go for the entertainment and a ‘feel-good’ message that you don’t actually understand
The newspapers and TV news only translate small bits of what he says
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 2:25 PM
And kippers for breakfast. God save the Queen.
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Why you mentioned Wilson B. Goode. That’s racist of you.
/sarc off
either orr on October 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM
I’m so ashamed.
Sparky on October 22, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Meh. Fair enough.
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 3:26 PM
He’s from Filthadelphia. While he and the rest of them sneer at the rest of Pennsylvania, we wish they’d secede and become part of New Jersey.
rightwingprof on October 22, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I’m in PA
Keep talking Murtha.
Take the gag off of Biden
Why aren’t they interviewing Ed Rendell MORE?
Cue up the Michelle Obama sound bites.
Pile it on.
The more they talk the deeper the hole gets.
right wing chicky on October 22, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I apologized for the use of that word and publicly stated regret my use of it here, but….
that doesn’t change the reality that you are a dishonest race-baiting creep who immediately reverted to very personal attacks because I poked fun at a disgraced and impeached judge.
People like you are becomming the norm on the Left, but every time I see you troll your garbage here I will be on your case
Understood?
Janos Hunyadi on October 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Liberal Demo-rats are more racist than Republicans. Some of these stupid liberal should expend some time reading American History and they will find out, which party is truly racist. I give them a hint is not the Republican Party and Al Gore’s father was for segregation.
pukara61 on October 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM
That’s more then anyone has ever gotten from crr6…should have stopped after the first two “it’s”.
This is a guy (crr6) who claimed we colonized Africa, destroyed their natural resources and infrastructure. He’s a liberal troll, set about to just argue his case against America…you were too kind to him.
right2bright on October 22, 2008 at 5:54 PM
So mentioning the word “welfare” is racist, but assuming that only black people are on welfare is not?
Give me a friggin’ BREAK!
cannonball on October 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Hey, I wonder if “Cracker” is code word for something.
Will the designated thinkers in the press let us know soon?
Elizabetty on October 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
And the the media wonders why we think they have a left wing bias…
Cr4sh Dummy on October 22, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Trained? You mean like in the circus? And by who, may I ask?
RMR on October 22, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Two more weeks to go….
mindhacker on October 22, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Inartfully expressed. Allow me:
“Do people realize the extent to which many African-Americans – particularly those in the inner cities – have been conditioned, by generations of servitude on the Liberal Plantation, to resent the very people who want nothing more than to see them free of their bondage?”
How’s that?
ManlyRash on October 22, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Excellent ManlyRash. Bravo!
RMR on October 22, 2008 at 9:59 PM
(sigh). If what I say doesn’t add to the discussion then sure, call me out on it, but trolling every single post I make is tiresome, pointless and frankly a bit creepy. But hey, if that’s what floats your boat more power to you.
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Where did I say that? If by “we” you mean white people, then yes we did colonize Africa. We did take many of their resources and the limited infrastructure we set up was there to exploit those natural resources rather then to help the local populations. You dispute this?
crr6 on October 22, 2008 at 10:11 PM
You all realize that the term “cracker” does not refer to a food substance but the sound that a whip makes when wielded.
badger on October 23, 2008 at 4:50 AM
One thing, I think some of us can agree on is-the word racism has been thrown around so much that it no longer hits a nerve or holds water.
The meaning of the word has been re-defined and applied to just about everything.
There are so many of us out here that never knew we were racist till now, thanks to the Democratic Party.
Four years of Bo and a good portion of the country will be accused of racism should we dare question anything he says or does.
We certainly have gotten a taste of what is coming should he be elected.
So being a racist, by their definition, is not all that bad.
Gulf Coast on October 23, 2008 at 1:37 PM
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