Video: If Palin said what Biden said, it’d be front-page news, notes … Dan Rather?

posted at 11:55 am on October 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart. Note to the media: When even this guy thinks you’re in the tank, it’s time to regroup.

Mika, daughter of Zbigniew, doesn’t seem real thrilled either.

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Oh, for heaven’s sake. It wasn’t a gaffe, it was just badly stated.
Bartrams_Garden on October 21, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Yet it’s always the democrats who feel it necessary to remind everyone that they will be tough too.

Bishop on October 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Steel in his spine and a load in his pants.

UnEasyRider on October 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM

What if the no credibility media investigated Barak Obama’s life story the same way they investigated Joe the Plumber?

No Credibility Media, we have no reason to listen to you NOW.

Angry Dumbo on October 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Bishop on October 21, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Check!

Hawkdriver script for 527 ad.

Scene 1: Fade out of Obama smiling nervously, arm in arm with Joe “Xerox” Gaff-tastic Biden in front of rally crowd.

Scene 2: Fade in of Obama rocking in the fetal position in his hotel room, sucking thumb and repeating, “I should have picked Clinton, I should have picked Clinton.”

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM

“Plugs” is the gift that just keeps on giving…

d1carter on October 21, 2008 at 12:45 PM

And way better than the “Jellie of the Month”

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 12:54 PM

I think Dan’s angling for a job at HotAir!

PattyJ on October 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM

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barry norris on October 21, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Mr Norris,
Per our Afghanistan discussion a couple of weeks ago, how do you feel about Biden’s apparent disagreement with your Obama’s ‘ushering in a time of peace’ assertion?

anuts on October 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Steel in his spine and a load in his pants.

UnEasyRider on October 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Oh Thank you- I so enjoy a good laugh with my lunch.

anniekc on October 21, 2008 at 12:57 PM

The comment in SF about Clinging to their gun and religion with antipathy toward…” was unofficially recorded I think.

*Already Ate*

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 12:46 PM

This is a regular point of discussion in my church, where several people are hunters during the winter and/or visit shooting ranges often. Several people have “Bitter Clinger” pins and/or shirts.

I think Dan’s angling for a job at HotAir!

PattyJ on October 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Don’t bite, MM, Ed and AP. :) Trust me :D

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 21, 2008 at 12:57 PM

I was surprised more another Rather point. Has Danny boy become a convert to the notion of the power and influence of the Internet and, more to the point, blogs?

Dusty on October 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I was surprised more another Rather point. Has Danny boy become a convert to the notion of the power and influence of the Internet and, more to the point, blogs?

Dusty on October 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Maybe, I just know one statement certianly doesn’t mean he’s had an awakening and is breaking conservative.

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Boy, everyday I wake up and check to see what Biden said the night before. I don’t know which is more shocking to me: the fact that the libs have such a disturbing ticket or that so many libs are so disturbed that they will happily pull the lever for it.

cibolo on October 21, 2008 at 1:06 PM

With Biden, you have got to believe that only 50% of what he spews out his pie hole is planned. The rest is a stream of conciousness unconsciousness.

bloggless on October 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Fixed for you.

either orr on October 21, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Any way you slice it, Biden’s admitted to the inexperience of Hussein.

And from the tone he’s taken, it’s as though he’s hoping America is attaked so that the leftus could show their “strength”.

Personally, I would not put it over them to be hoping the same.

madmonkphotog on October 21, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Obama’s truth squads will address this Biden fellow…

Geministorm on October 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM

Biden was addressing lib crowds in Seattle and SFO, who would tend to favor diplomacy or capitulation. Biden warns them that Obama may have to make unpopular decisions that might not appear in the short term to be the right response. What would that mean to his lib audience? To them, war would be the incorrect response.

Is Biden trying to tell us that Obama is a warmonger, and that they just need to “trust him, it’ll all work out”??

innominatus on October 21, 2008 at 12:32 PM

No, he’s not asking them to trust him, he’s asking them to “help” him using their “influence in the community” (see full quote below).

What the heck does that mean? Is that code for “get in their faces” or something? Does he mean that Obama’s actions in response to the international testing will be so unpopular with most Americans that Obama’s supporters will need to somehow influence their fellow citizens to fall in line with it?

What’s he going to do — throw Israel under the bus when Iran makes its move?

WTF?

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

[emphasis added]

Y-not on October 21, 2008 at 1:19 PM

…, how do you feel about Biden’s apparent disagreement with your Obama’s ‘ushering in a time of peace’ assertion?

anuts on October 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM

There’s no disagreement. If the US is attacked or directly threatened, Obama will react accordingly. Obama has never been against using military force, it’s when to use it.

barry norris on October 21, 2008 at 1:19 PM

To quote a person of vision

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. ~Thomas Jefferson

or watches MSM.

theRealMcCoy on October 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Second look at Dan Rather for Charlie Gibson’s job.

econavenger on October 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM

There’s no disagreement. If the US is attacked or directly threatened, Obama will react accordingly. Obama has never been against using military force, it’s when to use it.

barry norris on October 21, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Hmmm, “Didn’t want The Surge”, thinking…thinking…, “Obama will act accordingly”, thinking…thinking…”it’s when to use it” Hmmm

Damn this is so freaking hard to undersdtand what they see in this guy.

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 1:26 PM

We just are not used to a moment of total honesty from a politician like we got from Old Joe the other day.
People are not sure what to do :)

HoosierCon on October 21, 2008 at 1:27 PM

Steel in his spine.

Like a slinky.

fogw on October 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM

This is a Rather interesting turn of events.

- The Cat

MirCat on October 21, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Has anyone called Biden a racist for his attack on Obama’s foreign policy creds?

csdeven on October 21, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Steel in his spine.

Like a slinky.

fogw on October 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM

What Biden thinks is steel in Obama’s spine is actually his advisers hands up his back working his mouth.

csdeven on October 21, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Barry:

Obama’s claims about his willingness to use force are all theory and in the future. This is what we used to call the technological filibuster back in the 80′s Democrats were always in favor of the next weapons system, just not the one we could build now.

Obama claims that he isn’t against the GWOT he just wants to fight in the right place, i.e, Pakistan against the Taliban and AQ. When he is President he will invade Pakistan’s ungoverned Northwest Territories and hunt OBL down. I think not. I assure you that come January 21st, 2009 newly inaugurated President Obama will discover that our supply lines go through Pakistan and if we go chasing after OBL then nuclear armed Pakistan would cut our troops off. When the Afghan/NWT surge becomes the real option then he will pretend to change his mind. Instead, he will withdraw from Afghanistan claiming the war is unwinnable.

jerryofva on October 21, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Steel in his spine.

Like a slinky.

fogw on October 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Hmmm…. wasn’t one of Stalin’s knicknames the “Man of Steel”?

/bad accent…

Because in Soviet America, all good Socialist Leaders have Steely Spines!

Romeo13 on October 21, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Oh, for heaven’s sake. It wasn’t a gaffe, it was just badly stated. – Bartrams_Garden on October 21, 2008 at 12:36 PM

That’s what a gaffe IS. A poorly-thought-out statement; a faux pas; a blunder. – aero on October 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM

What Biden uttered (and what he utters often) is what political scientists call a Kinsley Gaffe.

ManlyRash on October 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM

jerryofva on October 21, 2008 at 1:37 PM

You are a well informed blogger. We also have almost everything transported by sea into OEF through Karachi. At any time that we really incur their displeasure, they have the capability of tying up a great deal of our logistics.

Pakistan has been as willing an ally as they can be and Barry’s plans are not sound. And as much as people would love to see UBL get a 30mm shower or Hellfire in his lap, killing him will no more end the GWOT than turning both Iraq and Afghanistan into Jewels of Democracy in that region. It’s a religious mind set and a middle ages thought process that has to be reconciled. McCain understands that. Working with Pakaistan to uproot AQ and Taliban in the tribal border regions, yep, killing UBL, cake icing.

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Pakistan Pock-ee-stahn has been as willing an ally as they can be and Barry’s plans are not sound. And as much as people would love to see UBL OO-sum-a-Bee’n-Luh-Deen get a 30mm shower or Hellfire in his lap, killing him will no more end the GWOT Boosh War for Oil than turning both Iraq EE-Rock and Afghanistan Ahf-Gon-ee-stahn into Jewels of Democracy in that region. It’s a religious mind set and a middle ages thought process that has to be reconciled. McCain understands that. Working with Pakaistan Pock-ee-stahn to uproot AQ Ull-ka-ee-da and Taliban Tol-ee-bahn in the tribal border regions, yep, killing UBL OO-sum-a-Bee’n-Luh-Deen, cake icing.

Phonetic corrections courtesy of the Obama School for Pretentious Foreign Name Pronunciation

ManlyRash on October 21, 2008 at 1:59 PM

What Biden uttered (and what he utters often) is what political scientists call a Kinsley Gaffe.

Sounds like it’s rubbing off on Obama.

Jim Treacher on October 21, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Steel lacks the flexibility of bone and cartilage and is more reactive than titanium. Bad choice of words (and structural/connective materials) by the Organic Toupee.

whitetop on October 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM

whitetop on October 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Then I guess I’m farked. I have a surgical steel rod in my right femur.

ManlyRash on October 21, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Obama steel-spined? More like a slinky…

onlineanalyst on October 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Hawk:

When I first heard Obama say he would go after OBL in Pakistan I immediately thought of another time and place. President Wilson sent MG John J Pershing down to Mexico to hunt down the Pancho Villa who was the OBL of his day. How’s that work out for us?

jerryofva on October 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM

ManlyRash on October 21, 2008 at 1:59 PM

What would us pikers do without you Manly.

Femur steel rod huh. Ouch. One of our Maintenance Officers and his wife just were T-Boned on a Harley this weekend and the wife had both femurs broken. He’s actually in worse shape with head injuries.

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 2:15 PM

jerryofva on October 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Killing UBL would be a news item to the American People for a bit longer than the regular news cycle and then it would be the same ole thing.

“Oh look, shiney!”

And the lower tier AQ Commanders would still go about their business.

Redecorating Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s vacation condo with two JDAMs and helping him assume room temp didn’t stop the insurgency in Iraq, The Surge did. The Anbar Awaking was a change in mind set that turned the Iraqis on their AQ guests. UBL isn’t a non-issue, but “getting” him isn’t either. It’s political theater.

What’s scary is the Obiden team not getting this and risking SF teams on a folly.

hawkdriver on October 21, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Sshh! He’s luring Iran and Russia into a trap – you guys are going to blow it.

exhelodrvr on October 21, 2008 at 2:26 PM

fogw: I should have read the comments before I posted. At least we are on the same wave length.

onlineanalyst on October 21, 2008 at 2:46 PM

He said America’s enemies would challenge the next president. Wow.

What a pile of sniveling crybabying over nothing.

Dave Rywall on October 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM

He said far more than that, Dave…and you know it.

capitalist piglet on October 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Of course it’s a gaffe! Obama doesn’t want anyone talking about scary stuff like international crises until the election is firmly in the bag. It might break his spell over his followers.

Specifically, it might get them thinking, “Would foreign powers test John McCain like that?” Very bad juju for Obama.

Obama must at all costs prevent inconvenient questions if he wants to hold on to this election.

tom on October 21, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Has anyone called Biden a racist for his attack on Obama’s foreign policy creds?

csdeven on October 21, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Heh.

If you examine what Biden said, you have to wonder if they aren’t aware of something that’s in the works. It’s just a very odd thing to say – the prediction he makes, about it being unapparent that they will be doing the right thing…just what is he telegraphing?

capitalist piglet on October 21, 2008 at 2:55 PM

onlineanalyst, I’ll waive the copyright fee.

Great minds think alike.

fogw on October 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Just waiting on a PSA from Joe regarding the proper technique for loin girding.

moxie_neanderthal on October 21, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Oh, for heaven’s sake. It wasn’t a gaffe, it was just badly stated.

Eh…

Dictionary:
gaffe
(găf) pronunciation

also gaff n.

1. A clumsy social error; a faux pas: “The excursion had in his eyes been a monstrous gaffe, a breach of sensibility and good taste” (Mary McCarthy).
2. A blatant mistake or misjudgment.

[French, from Old French, hook. See gaff1.]

Would you say that it was a mistake to say what he did?

Good thing that he’ll be involved in negotiations with dangerous foreign leaders. They’ll certainly realize that it’s their responsibility to untangle Biden’s “badly stated” policy pronouncements. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s a towering buffoon that spouts incompetent nonsense like a machine-gun of stupid.

spmat on October 21, 2008 at 5:29 PM

barry norris,
“If the US is attacked or directly threatened, Obama will react accordingly. Obama has never been against using military force, it’s when to use it.”

What if a U.S. ally is attacked? For instance, Israel, the Ukraine, and Iraq come to mind for some reason. Will Obama know what to do then?

exhelodrvr on October 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM

So, how does Obama pull us all out of the United States
when he surrenders??

gary on October 21, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Steel spine? More like forked tongue!

miron on October 22, 2008 at 1:36 AM

Steel in his spine.

Like a slinky.

fogw on October 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Slinky’s are plastic now, doncha know? Kids might get hurt playing with metal objects.

RickZ on October 22, 2008 at 6:47 AM

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