The comprehensive argument against Barack Obama
posted at 11:59 pm on October 21, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
CLOSING THE DEAL
A Roadmap for Campaign 2008’s Homestretch
By Guy Benson (www.guybensonshow.com) and Mary Katharine Ham (www.weeklystandard.com)
Editor and Contributor, Ed Morrissey
WHO ARE WE?
Allow us to put our cards on the table at the outset: We are two young conservative journalists—both in our 20s. Unlike many of our peers, we are not swept up in Obamamania and would prefer John McCain to win the election. We’ve teamed up with seasoned blogger extraordinaire, Ed Morrissey, whose careful and thoughtful pursuit of the truth—even when it benefits his political opponents—is respected across the blogosphere. In that spirit, we are not at all interested in perpetuating lies, rumors, and innuendo about Barack Obama. Promoting such information does America a disservice, allows Obama’s supporters to justifiably cry “smear,” and damages our own credibility.
What follows is by no means comprehensive, but it does shed some much-needed light on a number of Obama’s positions, statements, and associations about which he has been less than honest. We’ve attempted to boil each issue down to a succinct explanation with an accompanying, brief video clip—often starring Barack Obama in his own words. Before pulling the lever for someone who hopes voters will ignore his paper-thin resume, unsavory associations, and hard-left voting record, each citizen has a duty to do his due diligence.
In short, we hope this “closing argument” is compelling and clear, and we encourage you to share this essay with undecided or wavering family members, friends, and co-workers.
THE CONTEXT
If recent polls are to believed, freshman Senator Barack Obama has a better than average chance of becoming America’s 44th President, the Commander-in-Chief of the planet’s most powerful military, and the proverbial leader of the free world. It’s worth mentioning that just four years ago as President Bush and Senator John Kerry were vying for the White House, Obama was still a part-time State Senator representing a liberal district in Chicago. Before that he was an attorney and, famously, a community organizer. In 2008, Obama has positioned himself as a post-partisan, thoughtful moderate with the superior judgment required to lead the country. These are lofty promises from a man with precious little executive experience, and a Senate career that lasted exactly 143 legislative days before he launched yet another campaign for higher office. No one can deny his ambition. In fact, if Obama wins on November 4th—and serves one full term in the Oval Office—the Presidency of the United States would be the longest consecutively held full-time job he has ever held without seeking another.
Barack Obama promises “change,” which is an appealing concept to an American public weary of a beleaguered administration and worried about the future. They are faced with a candidate who promises them everything: Tax cuts for 95% of Americans, universal healthcare, peace, saving the planet, and—according to his wife—the “healing” of Americans’ souls. As the saying goes, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Questions abound: Is this man prepared to be president? Does he hold mainstream values and policy preferences? Who has influenced his thinking, and where does he want to take the country? Has he been honest with the people from whom he seeks votes?
FILE: ABORTION
Barack Obama is out of the political mainstream on abortion. Don’t take our word for it, just listen to Sen. Obama’s own statements. In his final debate with John McCain, Obama asserted that “nobody is pro-abortion.” If you don’t have the time to read Princeton University professor Robert P. George’s detailed argument that Obama may actually fit that description, consider the candidate’s own record. In the clips below, you will hear Obama say three things.
First, he tells an audience that if his own daughters experienced an unexpected teen pregnancy, he wouldn’t want them “punished with a baby.”
Second, he pledges to a Planned Parenthood gathering that the very first thing he’d do as president is sign the Freedom Of Choice Act, which—according to the bill’s own supporters — would abolish bans on partial-birth abortion and parental notification laws nationwide while implementing tax-payer funded abortions. All three positions are wildly unpopular with the vast majority of Americans, yet they are Obama’s top priorities—just ask him:
Finally, Obama argues against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act as an Illinois Senator in 2002. Despite Obama’s protestations otherwise, he voted three separate times against this legislation, which was designed to require life-saving care for infants who survive botched abortions. This is a matter of record. Not only did an identical bill pass Congress without a single dissenting vote, the explanation Obama has offered for years to defend these votes has been exposed as a lie. Furthermore, Hot Air has a long list of supporting posts on this very subject:
- Infanticide, revisited
- Yes, we can … elect a guy who votes for infanticide
- There are a lot of things above Obama’s “pay grade”
- Team Obama acknowledges infanticide lie
- Obama camp: He only voted against that born-alive abortion bill because it might actually have an effect
- Obama’s support for infanticide breaks into mainstream media
- Obama: Bill unnecessarily burdened doctors with … babies; Update: AOL Hot Seat poll added
- McCarthy: Obama’s moral failing on infanticide
- Obama’s ad lies about infanticide vote
Listen to Obama complain that providing care to these accidentally-born infants would place an undue burden on the woman and her abortionist:
Americans of good faith are divided on this issue. Many are pro-life, and many are pro-choice. Obama’s extreme record should horrify the former group, and should even give significant pause to the latter. Ask yourself, are babies “punishment”? Would you vote for the Freedom of Choice Act and against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act…three times?
FILE: TAXES
As a skilled rhetorical magician, Obama presents himself as a tax-cutter. Even though he’s voted dozens of times to raise taxes, he assures Americans that 95% of us will have our taxes slashed under his plan. The Wall Street Journal isn’t buying it. Once again, though, the best way to assess someone’s positions is to listen to his own language. Note the two telling exchanges that follow:
First, Obama tells newly-minted national celebrity “Joe the Plumber” that his tax hikes on the so-called rich are designed to “spread the wealth around,” which Obama explains is “good for everybody.” Does that sound like a genuine tax-cutter to you?
Second, Obama is challenged by ABC News anchor Charlie Gibson at a primary debate in Pennsylvania. Gibson asks Obama why he insists on raising capital gains taxes (which affect millions of American investors) even after history has proven that raising said taxes actually decreases government revenues from the taxes, and cutting capital gains taxes actually brings more revenue into federal coffers. Obama has no answer, other than to blow off all the evidence, and say that raising taxes is the fair thing to do—practical consequences be damned.
Someone so obsessed with the concept of “fairness” is unlikely to be a friend to taxpayers. Obama’s record over his brief legislative career confirms his tax-and-spend impulses.
FILE: RADICAL ASSOCIATIONS
Barack Obama does not want anyone talking about his radical associations. He’s even sought criminal prosecutions against those who have dared to speak out on issues that make him squirm. Average Americans are judged by the company they keep, and our leaders ought to be held to the same standard.
Even though Obama says the issue is resolved (and John McCain refuses to raise it) voters must consider the case of Jeremiah Wright. Think of it this way: Barack Obama has himself estimated that he attends church twice a month. He spent twenty years at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ under the leadership of Rev. Wright. Within this metric, a rough calculation concludes that Obama sat through approximately 500 sermons at that church. 500. Still, he claims he never heard outrageous, racist, or anti-American comments from the pulpit. Watch the following clips—you probably saw them back when this controversy erupted—and ask yourself if you believe Obama’s self-serving selective deafness. The man featured in these clips is the same man who performed Obama’s wedding and baptized his children. Notice that his unhinged rantings did not elicit stunned silence from his congregation, but approving cheers. Is Obama’s “this isn’t the Jeremiah Wright I once knew” a credible excuse? Can you imagine anything like this being said at your church or house of worship—much less applauded?
Bill Ayers is another name many Americans have heard by now. He is a former terrorist who detonated bombs at federal buildings and plotted to blow up an army dance at Ft. Dix, New Jersey. He remains proud of his actions, and only regrets not having bombed more. Obama has been personal and professional friends with Ayers for more than a dozen years. When confronted with this association, Obama has said Ayers is (a) just a guy in his neighborhood, (b) a local professor, and (c) someone with whom he’d served on a charitable board. These are all true statements, but they obfuscate a much deeper relationship about which Obama is not being honest. In fact, the two served together on two boards—The Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where together they funneled huge sums of money to a who’s-who leftwing causes. Obama’s 1995 political coming-out party took place in the home of Ayers and his wife, a fellow unrepentant terrorist. Obama now denies this, but it’s a matter of record, confirmed by individuals who attended the party. Investigative journalist and Ethics and Public Policy Center Fellow, Stanley Kurtz, has written many thorough and indispensable articles on Obama’s substantial ties to Ayers. If you don’t have time to read them, consider the following videos.
First, CNN looks into Bill Ayers and the Obama connection. The report concludes that “the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama says.” It also confirms the 1995 political party Ayers hosted for Obama.
Second, Obama repeatedly states that Ayers’ violence took place 40 years ago when he was just eight years old. This is true, and it’s irrelevant. Would you shake hands with, let alone work comfortably with, someone who bombed the US Capitol and Pentagon, and remains proud that he did so? It is implausible that Obama didn’t know about Ayers’ sordid past, just as it’s implausible that he was unaware that Ayers’ hatred of this country continues to fester to this day. The following video features a 1998 ABC News interview with Ayers and his wife that showcases their continued defiance. It also portrays Ayers at a 1960s radical reunion just last year during which he describes the United States as he sees it today. Why did Obama feel comfortable around these people, and is it any wonder that he’s been less than forthcoming about their relationship?
ACORN is a community organization whose fraudulent voter registration activities have drawn indictments and investigations in more than a dozen states. Their intimidation tactics in the 1990s forced banks into issuing unwise mortgage loans to low-income individuals, setting the stage for the recent mortgage crisis that send the economy into a tailspin. Barack Obama has denied any connection to ACORN beyond performing some minimal legal work on their behalf in the distant past. Once again, this is an intentionally misleading understatement. As it turns out, Obama was a top ACORN activism trainer for several years. The charitable boards he and Ayers controlled funneled hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN. His campaign paid ACORN more than $800,000 to register voters in the primary, but tried to disguise the purpose of those spent dollars in official expense reports. He’s since scrubbed his “fight the smears” website after these untruths were exposed.
This is a complicated issue, so it plays into Obama’s hands: Team Obama’s gameplan of spinning half-truths and muddying the water is in full effect as he tries to “run out the clock” on the election. Although Stanley Kurtz did the heavy lifting , syndicated columnist Mona Charen’s explanation summed up the issue quite well: Putting Obama in charge of cleaning up the mortgage mess would be akin to hiring an arsonist to put out a fire.
As we mentioned above, the Obama/ACORN nexus does not lend itself to quick and easy videos. Nonetheless, two stand out: CNN—not the other cable news channel Obama ritually bashes—filed an investigative report on Obama’s ties to ACORN, and once again found Obama’s explanation wanting. In addition, the McCain campaign produced perhaps the best succinct summary of Obama’s ties to ACORN in a 90 second web ad, the details of which have not been disputed. Watch and decide for yourself:
For fear of lingering too long on the “associates” question, we will refrain from exploring the convicted felonwho helped Obama buy his Hyde Park mansion.
Remember, though, these issues are “distractions.” Nothing to see here, folks.
FILE: FOREIGN POLICY JUDGMENT
Barack Obama gained much of his early traction by speaking out against the war in Iraq. He cites his initial opposition to the war as the crown-jewel example of his judgment on foreign affairs. Although many people credit him for being “right” on the war from the beginning, it’s indisputable that he did not have an actual vote on the war resolution. As a state senator from a liberal, antiwar district, one wonders how much political risk he assumed by speaking out against a Republican-led conflict. Regardless, after he was elected to the US Senate, Obama was faced with an actual vote on a controversial issue: The surge. John McCain and others said the strategy was the only way to salvage the war and recover from our missteps there. History has proven them correct. Obama not only opposed the surge, but actually predicted it would make matters worse. In other words, he was spectacularly wrong on his biggest foreign policy judgment call since joining the Senate. He stubbornly refuses to admit he was wrong. This may be the kind of judgment that’s expected from a partisan rookie Senator, but not a Commander-in-Chief:
During the CNN-YouTube debate in the summer of 2007, Obama unequivocally promised to meet without preconditions with the rogue leaders of America’s worst enemies—all within the first year of his administration. Hillary Clinton and John McCain have called this approach reckless, expressing concerns that Obama may be playing into our enemies’ propagandistic designs. In October 2008, the Iranian government announced its own preconditions for one-on-one meetings with the Unites States: Pull all US troops out of the Middle East, and abandon support for “Zionist” Israel. These absurd demands further expose Obama’s very poor judgment vis-a-vis a regime that is actively aiding and abetting terrorists in Iraq who are killing US servicemen. Iran’s “preconditions” prove that negotiating with bad-faith actors who hate Americans and Jews would accomplish nothing other than handing their regime a PR coup. In recent months, Obama’s campaign has continually claimed that he didn’t actually make the promise that he did. The tape does not lie:
FILE: DISDAIN FOR THE HEARTLAND
Barack Obama was rated the most liberal United States Senator in 2007 by the non-partisan National Journal — farther left than Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, and self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders. He rarely mentions this extreme voting record as he campaigns throughout the heartland, just as he refrains from telling middle America what he really thinks of those who live there. Obama waits until he’s in San Francisco to do that. At a chic fundraising dinner, Obama sniffed that average Americans get “bitter” and “cling” to their guns and religion—as if these were shameful crutches. He may look down his nose at you, but he still wants your vote:
Obama also expressed disapproval of Americans’ (apparently) selfish way of life, scolding his fellow citizens for doing awful things like driving SUVs, heating their homes to a comfortable temperature, and eating as much as they’d like. Note the return of John Kerry’s “global test” in his remarks. If this is how he lectures Americans while he’s still pandering for votes, one wonders how preachy a President Obama might get:
FILE: THE RACE CARD
Millions of Americans oppose Senator Obama’s candidacy for many different reasons. For a small number of bigots, one of them is almost certainly race. That being said, Obama’s surrogates and media supporters have shown very little reluctance to ascribe racism to virtually anyone who supports another candidate. This is shameful. Worse still, Obama has personally played the race card several times, accusing Republicans in general, and the McCain campaign specifically, of whipping up race-based ugliness. When McCain’s objects, Obama has disingenuously denied he was referring to race in his initial comments. Really? On one occasion, Obama accused Republicans of trying to “scare” voters by mentioning that he “doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.” At another rally he made a similar claim, adding “…did we mention he’s black?” to his interpretation of the GOP’s supposed scare tactics. As someone who presents himself as a unifying figure, what does it say that he shamelessly injects racial politics into the campaign, casting aspersions on his opponents’ motives? Watch and listen for yourself:
With the exception of one time each by the Washington Post and ABC News (on their blogs), the media did nothing to expose this tactic by Obama and his campaign employed on these occasions:
FILE: LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS
After an embarrassing exchange on a talk show, the Obama campaign scrambled to arm its surrogates with talking points about Obama’s grand legislative record. What did they come up with? Two bills—and Obama talks about them endlessly. One deals with securing loose nuclear weapons and was so uncontroversial that it passed on a voice vote in the Senate. The other created a “google for government” system, allowing citizens to track government spending. Both were laudable efforts for a wet-behind-the-ears legislator, but Obama wants to be President. Beyond those two meager accomplishments, what has he done? It’s a question that has baffled official campaign surrogates and regular Americans alike:
SUMMATION
All three of us have written many, many times on all of these issues. Taken individually, most of them would create doubt about the readiness and honesty of any political candidate. Put together as a narrative, we believe this paints the picture of a man who has few real credentials for the office he seeks beyond the Constitutional minimum, and a politician who has succeeded in obfuscating his hard-Left ideology.
Perhaps if Barack Obama had taken more time to build his resumé – especially with executive experience – he might have made a more compelling candidate, and might have demonstrated at least a little of the moderation he has claimed. Instead, Democrats want America to support at once the most radical and least qualified candidate for President in at least a century. They have tried to conceal this with the complicity of a pom-pom-waving national media that has shown much more interest in the political background of a plumber from Ohio than in a major-party candidate for President.
America deserves better than that. Voters deserve the truth from the press, not vague cheers of “hope” and “change” while willfully ignoring or air-brushing Obama’s record. We hope to set that record straight with our essay.
Update: We may add a couple more videos as the day goes along, so keep checking back. If you want to see more, please visit Mary Katharine Ham’s YouTube channel or the Weekly Standard.
Update II: Here’s one video we forgot in our comprehensive argument. Barack Obama offered his insights into his military policy in the middle of a war — cut everything that might make us secure:
He’ll cut missile defense, new weapons systems, and just about everything he can.
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No need, I already got the point Bishop was making.
I was just making a joke in the same vein, i.e the sycophantic state security apparatus never sleeps.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Hey! This must be the first Sunday show appearance for a hobbit!
PD Quig on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Uranus.
My job takes me into the homes of anonymous people, and over the past 4+ years I have been amazed to see more than a few who literally had O’bama Shrines not only in their living rooms, but more frequently in their bedrooms. And these were all folks who are white.
Never saw that before, even with JFK or Reagan. To these fools, O’bama is The Pope.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM
to me he’s the Dope.
And there is no hope from that dope.
dmacleo on May 19, 2013 at 10:06 PM
The only hack here is HotAirLib.
Here’s Karl
In twitter comments Karl regrets that be didn’t cite the source of his information as a note and not a primary source.
In other words he still stands by his reporting. Just like the linked NRO story states.
gwelf on May 19, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Dealing with the Obama administration is much like catching a 3-4 year old child in an obvious lie.
landlines on May 19, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Weird.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Babe, if they put your brain on a razor blade it’d look like a BB rollin’ down a four lane highway…..
Long John Baldry, Mar Y Sol
Tenwheeler on May 19, 2013 at 11:49 PM
“WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?” “IT’S NOT RELEVANT”! “I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT”. “WE ARE ALL UNFETTERED”. “IT MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG BUT IT WASN’T ILLEGAL”.
OBAMA’S LEGACY
inspectorudy on May 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM
And the big point… “Why were we working off notes?”
Because the White House didn’t allow copies of the e-mails to be distributed…
It was a limited release of some data with large restrictions… the way Obama plays everything. And a few people could see it for just a bit, but they couldn’t have a copy.
Why not let them have copies if they could see them?
Because letting them have a copy would get accurate quotes of course; and that wouldn’t be acceptable.
gekkobear on May 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM
Tea Partiers aren’t anti America. They advocate sticking with American ideas like those expressed in the Constitution. If they’re anti-American, then so was James Madison.
They probably represent a majority of the people who remember why America is different than most nations, and what gives individual Americans the ability to improve their lot in life.
A big central government can’t supply happiness or success. Heck, it can’t even supply toilet paper.
hawksruleva on May 20, 2013 at 12:37 AM
Its a good thing that I ate supper several hours ago because I would have puked my guts out after watching the horses ASS David Gregory on NBC’s hoax Sunday show. He’s another Chapstick addict. The only thing he did was chap his lips kissing Obama’s ASS for the whole show.
I know the answer to my own question but how in the hell can anybody with at least half a brain take this $h!t from Obama’s minions seriously
hamradio on May 20, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Because, you know, that targeting strategy could never be used against causes you favor.
ctwelve on May 20, 2013 at 2:07 AM
An idiot wrapped up in a moron !!!
hamradio on May 20, 2013 at 3:35 AM
Nice!
totherightofthem on May 20, 2013 at 7:08 AM
I’m guessing you stand ready to take a little more from him, though, right?
Go towel off. Your fear permeates the room.
totherightofthem on May 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Me guess, all the evils in the universe are the republicans fault. There can be no government big enough to counter all the ills that republicans do.
racquetballer on May 20, 2013 at 7:53 AM
I didn’t think the WH could do worse than Carney or Rice….until this clown…
easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 8:12 AM
There is an achilles heel with Banghazi.It is where was zero when the terror types attacked.They can’t and won’t answer that one question,they will have to lie.
rodguy911 on May 20, 2013 at 8:14 AM
Release the kracken! Or, at least Obama’s transcripts from Harvard.
racquetballer on May 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM
First, this is to cover the fact two days of emails are still missing THE FIRST TWO DAYS! What is on them? Oh yeah, the really bad stuff.
Second- A sign your administration is in trouble is when it sends out the some intern looking fellow who is back from a college break!
It’s like “Dude, I don’t know what is going on, but these guys from the White House grabbed me on my way to the beach with my board and put this suit on me. They said if I keep repeating the same line over and over, they would take me to Subway afterward for a footlong! I mean who could say no! Knarly!”
Put “Biff” back in the closet and get someone who thinks they have future in politics worth risking to show up.
Right now the equation appears to be: Rats=sinking ship= get the F out!
just saying…
archer52 on May 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM
“The Law is Irrelevant.”
Words mean something!
When miller, head of the IRS, kept being asked over and over ‘don’t you think Congress needed to know what you know – about the scandals – the last time you appeared before us’ he repeated over and over ‘I answered the questions you asked.’ He implied he had no obligation to tell them anything, & it wasn’t his fault they ased the wrong questions. It was technical legalese BS – carefully chosen words to avoid answering their question while insisting to them that his misleading Congress was not wrong because he never technically lied.
When Strong used these 4 words he declared to the world what many of us already knew – the Constitution & U.S. Laws mean NOTHING to this President & his administration! His oath of office meant nothing, his vow to defend & uphold the Constitution & rule of law meant nothing. He declared his war on both of them before he was elected, vowing to fundamentally change the U.S. if elected. By using these 4 words, Strong identified this adminsitration – this President – as an ENEMY OF THE STATE who has intentionally violated the Constitution & law repeatedly…and a declaration that they have no intention of stopping.
easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Back to Bill Clinton, and “is” .
Is it a lie or not.
A lie is a lie.
Is lie.
Is.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM
I’ve seen this once before,..
My grandmother was born in the 1890′s, raised two seperate sets of kids, one through the depression, outlived three husbands..
and kept till her dying day an FDR shrine, with portrait, candles, flower vases, little plaques..
I never understood why?.. but as an under 10 child never asked about it.
I can say without reservation, I loved Ronald Maximous Reagan, he was MY preside4nt. I voted for him, served under him as my CIC, and died a little bit inside the day he passed away. I’d lost my father all over again in a way…. but that’s my point, to me he was like a loved family member.
Never, did I have a shrine in my home about him, not a picture on the wall, no candles, no daily prayers for his soul.
Because all to many democrats aren’t looking for a hero.. but a demigod. Someone more than human who reaches them on a level we reserve for God only.. them.. he IS GOD.
I lost an uncle recently, didn’t go to his funeral, was not welcome. we were estranged, because of an argument over Reagan back almost 20 years ago.. He was stunned I was a republican, and he being a WW II vet, informed me, I was unAmerican, and almost a traitor because I wasn’t in the little guy’s FDR party..
It got ugly, and later when I said, let’s put our politics aside, and just be family..
he slammed the door in my face..
This is what we’re dealing with, their party is their church, the president of that party, God..
and apostates are to be shunned..
mark81150 on May 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM
HotAirLib,
Stand still we are trying to pee in your face and you keep moving and dodgeing and the subject change drill.
Face the pee.
awk
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM
haha it is always fun to say this to lefties when dealing with them in person – shuts them up every time I’ve done it! :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 9:41 AM
This is an administration in full retreat, and an agenda that is finished.
Progressives that have to resort to intimidation tactics support the contention that they are devoid of any future without the ability to suppress the truth.
itsspideyman on May 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Living Colour – “Cult Of Personality”
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM
You’re comments lately have been cracking me up – good job! :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Same here. To continue your thought, I NEVER thought to put up a shrine to him. I considered (and I’m sure he felt the same way) him my equal, a man I could look in the eye and shake his hand with pride.
But that’s the nature of America, and one of its special properties, the thought that all under the eyes of God are created equal.
itsspideyman on May 20, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Hal from the comments being laughed at, seems clearly in the if a democrat does it, it’s legal camp.. and if they have to break some eggs (citizens lives) so be it… he he he..
nice.. so political persecution is permissible..
as long as a liberal does it..
Clearest confession of fascism yet from it.
mark81150 on May 20, 2013 at 9:58 AM
…as you cite a conspiracy about the Republicans doctoring emails that can be debunked by the shining crystal administration releases the actual emails that shows that the Republicans doctored emails.
It’s funny that nobody on your side felt they had to wear the tinfoil hat for the “vast right-wing conspiracy” during the Clinton administration. Back then “conspiracy” wasn’t the commit-able word that it becomes today through the standard pattern of lib’s changing rules and what is and what isn’t politic.
Axeman on May 20, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Exactly.. you never got the feeling he felt superior to you, that were you to meet in a tavern or park, he’d shake your hand and talk to you, and actually care about your opinion.. on a purely neighborly man to man way.
I cannot see any president since,.. well maybe George Bush,.. to have that quality..
every democrat has the Adlie Stevenson edgey.. “what the hell do you want” attitude towards the little guy. LBJ had an ability to ACT like he cared, but he didn’t..
Obama is the worst of that subspecies..
The born to be King and rule you all mentality.. like it was some great favor you’re allowed to even exist on the same planet.. I knew in my gut, he was toxic, when an aide of his remarked, he was the only president not awed by the Oval Office.. that he put his feet on the desk carved from the timber of the HMS Resolute..
That kind of blind hubris.. entitlement leaves you speechless..
Mr. Reagan never set foot in that office without his suit jacket on, and insisted his staff do the same.. as did both Bush’s.
and Obama puts his feet on the desk.. as if it were carved just for him personally. Unbelievable.
mark81150 on May 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Burt Prelutsky, a former lib/911-conservative, once wrote that he realized that libs don’t like each over that much, either. Their main communal bond is banding against the hated conservative. If you break that bond, you’re nothing to these people. No amount of agreement to lib causes saved Burt or Bernie Goldberg from being pushed further and further to the right.
Axeman on May 20, 2013 at 10:15 AM
The e-mails were doctored but the birth certificate wasn’t.
BWAHAHAHAHA
Bevan on May 20, 2013 at 10:19 AM
This sort of idolization reminds me of much communist history I have read & searched over & over again.
The times & events are so eerily similar in many, many ways.
People are afraid of Liberty.
And I admit, being free & being responsible for your own decisions, yourself, & your family & community is hard.
It is exactly why Liberty never really does last in society.
Bcs people are mostly scared of life & they do everything they can to avoid living it free.
Being a slave is much easier.
Badger40 on May 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Well put, and thank you for your service.
itsspideyman on May 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Agreed Badger. Freedom is not for the faint-hearted. It takes no small amount of courage.
itsspideyman on May 20, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Jonathan Karl has apologized. He understands his reporting was flawed and the result was that he misrepresented the emails. – both in substance and in context.
verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Oh so that makes all his other biased reporting OK. I see.
Now, when do we hear OBama’s giant a$$ apology for really fracking this country up?
Badger40 on May 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM
He apologized for not clearly stating that his source for the email was a note of the email (since the email was not available) and not the email itself. None of the relevant issues his reporting has raised have changed. Karl hasn’t backed off at all of his reporting and it’s statements.
gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Of course, he/she/it could have realized that if it paid attention.
It is so pathetic when these apologists keep doubling down.
Badger40 on May 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Their foolish haste to defend their Messiah provides good comedy for us non-Kool Aid drinkers, though. :)
As a reminder, this is Karl’s apology. Reading it, embarrassingly mistaken losers like verbaloser obviously do not understand what “in substance” means…
Jonathan Karl: “Clearly, I regret the email was quoted incorrectly and I regret that it’s become a distraction from the story, which still entirely stands. I should have been clearer about the attribution. We updated our story immediately.”
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Intellectually dishonest leftards like Shallow HAL and verbaloser are like people who mystifyingly believe that pointing out an opponent’s typo overshadows & invalidates what they are disagreeing with, no matter how factual its content may be…
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 1:03 PM
So your side railing that capitalism is bad, and the military is awful, and we shouldn’t have borders, and the Constitution is outdated and useless isn’t anti-American?
You’re not up on American history are you?
gekkobear on May 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Pretty rich that you offer this when you’re coming from a place where the foundation of your accusations is nothing more than hypothetical speculations, suggestions of ‘meanings’, suspicions based based on imagined conversations and scenarios.
The real problem you and others pushing the false Benghazi narrative have to deal with, it that this burst of attention is in fact that…some attention.
And largely the conclusion rational folks reach when in fact seeing all this ‘evidence’, is that there’s nothing to it. They see it for exactly what it is – a political attack machine.
But as we’ve seen this week…you can shift the narrative on a dime. Example would be on the legit IRS issue…we’ve gone from ‘This is an outrage that the President must have known about all along! Don’t believe he was in the dark here!!’ –
to….’It’s an outrage the President didn’t know about this and was in the dark! How could he be so aloof!’.
Ha.
verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM
ROFL@you & your lack of reading comprehension!
Jonathan Karl: “Clearly, I regret the email was quoted incorrectly and I regret that it’s become a distraction from the story, which still entirely stands. I should have been clearer about the attribution. We updated our story immediately.”
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM
Listen up, TweezerLips. Think of it this way, HAPOS – eventually, there WILL be another Republican Administration. The law is ALL about prescedent. Now, imagine it the other way round and kindly STFU.
PJ Emeritus on May 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM
http://patdollard.com/2013/05/flashback-hillary-clinton-fired-from-watergate-investigation-for-lying-unethical-behavior-conspiracy-to-violate-the-constitution/
HILLARY IS TOTALLY TRUSTWORTHY…RIGHT?!
The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.
Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.
Why?
“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”
“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.
The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files. So what did Hillary do?
“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,” Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding – as if the Douglas case had never occurred.
The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.
** Eric Holder was also caught hiding files when he worked to get the terrorist group FALN a pardon (which they did not want/did not ask for).
easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM
verb. seriously … come on man. do you just not read stuff you cite before doing your victory laps?
rightmind on May 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Get out the ChapStick. Your lips are chapped from kissing @$$
hamradio on May 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM
You were merely being rhetorical, right? :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM
What do you see his ‘story’ to be?
verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM
I don’t think a lack of reading comprehension was the problem.
I think the troll was simply lying about what Karl said. The trolls here lie like dogs, just like their favorite politicians.
Also, you saved me the trouble of digging up that quote from Karl.
farsighted on May 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM
If you want me to consider you more than just a common, everyday, typical partisan hack, go read Karl’s story, give a report proving that you accurately understood it, and define exactly what he meant by “a distraction” from story he claims “still entirely stands.”
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Sure…we can end this on your cop-out and deflection.
verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Instead of getting off of your lazy butt to demonstrate to me that I am not talking to pure retard a la non-nonpartisan, you chose to personally attack me, showing that you don’t care that I consider you a partisan hack, which just goes to prove that I am 100% justified in calling you, “verbaloser”!
I am done with you for now, little pinata :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Have you heard of a thing called a “Bivens suit”?
You might get familiar with it. Because a lot of people are going to get hit with a lot of these suits very soon.
You think not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples is an EP violation. Well, even more than that, is applying IRS rules and regulatory scrutiny to conservative and not liberal groups. There isn’t even a rational basis for doing it.
alwaysfiredup on May 20, 2013 at 2:52 PM
In one sense, you are giving the ever-lazy verbaloser more credit here than I, as lying takes effort. IOW, I don’t believe verbaloser even has the brain energy required to create a lie! :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM
You feel ‘personally attacked’?
Zowz.
Um…well, I apologize for…um…attacking you, so…ah…personally.
verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM
For those who didn’t read the OP…
About Karl’s version of the emails…
No one in the media had the actual emails. All they had were notes taken by people who were allowed to take a look at the emails for a couple/few hours. Emails only some people were only allowed to review as part of a deal the GOP made with the WH to allow the Brennan nomination to proceed.
And here is the difference between what Karl reported and the actual email. An email only released by the WH after pressured to do so by reports based on notes taken by people who got only a relatively brief glimpse of them.
In Clintonian fashion the WH, and its troll corps, would have us believe this makes all of the difference in the world, just like what your definition of “is” is does.
Keep in mind Karl was working from the only source he had, someone else’s notes. And that was because the WH refused to release the emails. He has apologized for not getting the quote exactly right. How could he without access to the original emails?
However, he has not apologized for the content of his report because, after finally getting access to the emails, he thinks his reporting still accurately reflects what was in the emails.
In fact, Karl’s reporting forced the WH to release emails they had refused to release for many months. Apparently that is what it took to get the most transparent WH ever to release what it should have released long ago. Good job Karl.
Now where are the emails from the previous 67 hours?
farsighted on May 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM
I didn’t say, “feel”, did I? That is your word, which is completely expected from a dishonest leftard like you.
Instead of spending your time trying to give me a good reason to believe you were worthy of my time, you tried to make the conservation into one about my ‘motives’, which, to your apparent chagrin, does fall under the definition of “personal attack.”
If you don’t agree, that’s ok – you can argue with yourself about it, little pinata! :)
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 3:19 PM
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