Quote of the day
posted at 10:40 pm on October 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
“If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.
Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation’s prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama’s door.”
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Um, don’t like seeing that and Barney Frank in the same post.
carbon_footprint on October 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Still a couple weeks for the press to do their jobs…I won’t hold my breath.
BryanS on October 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
As if.
Purple Fury on October 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM
He better be ready for all the scorn and villification that is coming his way for speaking the obvious truth that has been so willfully igonored.
JAM on October 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
BWAHAHAHAH!! HAHAHA!! …good one!
Grafted on October 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Difficult to redeem something you haven’t had in about fifty years.
Bishop on October 20, 2008 at 10:46 PM
The dinosaur media is, well, a dinosaur. A fossil. Dead. A curious museum display piece, but nothing more.
SouthernGent on October 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
I like your wishlist Orson. Welcome to the club.
Oh, just one more thing ….. ain’t gonna happen.
fogw on October 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
“Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It’s as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)”
SCORE!
Buckaroo on October 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
I read that yesterday – great article.
Andrew D on October 20, 2008 at 10:49 PM
And that is where it will stay, as far as the Drive-By media is concerned. These idiots are digging their own graves.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM
What a superior piece, Mr. Soon-to-be-Unemployed.
Full credit to him. Principles over personal preference. I’d like to see that piece get some play. Perhaps one or two journalists still have consciences that can be pricked.
Spirit of 1776 on October 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM
After November 4 I believe his prospects may improve – at least with the alternate media.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 10:51 PM
This sounds a bit like an obama tax cut.
Redeeming Honor he never had in the first place.
Thune on October 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Oh great, now all the copies of All the President’s Men will disappear from libraries, video stores and Netflix.
snaggletoothie on October 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I liked Card’s “Ender’s Game” (though it was anti-war, it was a good book; I kept my liking for it by ignoring the rest of the ‘series’). I’m impressed that, as a democrat, he’s openly admitting what’s going on in the MSM, and advocating they start actual reporting! My esteem for him has risen significantly.
rmgraha on October 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I suppose it’s too much to hope that Frank, Shumer and Dodd might lie awake night worrying about the harm they’ve done to this country and millions of its people. I mean it’s not everyone who gets the chance to bring the whole world to it’s knees. If they are lying awake nights it’s probably because they wonder if it will ever catch up with them and there will be consequences. I wonder if people will be willing to accept the “we meant well” excuse?
jeanie on October 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Through the PUMA network – they might get to movable voters.
Spirit of 1776 on October 20, 2008 at 10:53 PM
………………. Yes, to their own defeat. Anyone want to buy a newspaper these days?
………………. I didn’t think so.
Excellent article, absolutely…………….. Spot On.
Seven Percent Solution on October 20, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Alright – I take it BACK: Allahpundit is sometimes MUCH MORE helpful than Leprosy!!
WOW!! Both a flaming liberal and one of my favorite Science Fiction authors TEARs the MEDIA a NEW ONE!!
And MOST eloquently so!
Thank you, Allahpundit – BRILLIANT post!
grtflmark on October 20, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Uhh is this Hugo and Nebula award winning sci fi author Orson Card? I didn’t know he was into political commentary… Still, good piece!
Tacitus on October 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Not necessarily a BAD thing. Perhaps it will inspire a new generation of TRUE journalists.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Disturbing, wasn’t it?
amerpundit on October 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
ManlyRash, I am skeptical of these polls showing Obama with a large lead, but I am nowhere near as bullish as you are on McCain’s prospects. What’s your secret?
Terrie on October 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
I, too, believe that. But, every once in a while, there’s a reason to go back.
rmgraha on October 20, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Oh, Orson Scott Card doesn’t need to worry about losing a column or two in some newspapers. He’s a very well established writer of mostly science fiction and fantasy, but he also delves into other genres.
And he is a gutsy guy who calls ‘em as he see ‘em.
Matt Helm on October 20, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Well I hope it is worth it for the MSM. If Obama wins the public at large will send the media into the toilet. Which I think os going to happen anyway, it’s just a mater of hard the public flushes them.
Theworldisnotenough on October 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM
What do they call that when you remember something that you’ve never seen?
Jaibones on October 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM
To be fair, the problems that caused the current financial crisis were much larger than the US. See: Tyler Cowan, Three Trends and a Train Wreck.
Congressional Democrats should bear their share of the blame, but they were just part of a much larger problem, of everyone from bankers to governments taking on excessive risk, and *that* problem was only part of what caused our current troubles.
Bartrams_Garden on October 20, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Oh noooo … that guy is way too naive.
The press is now hawking this as to why Repbulicans are to blame now …
What a bunch of garbage. The Republicans are to blame and had to be “paid off” by Fannie Mae to kill the legislation. Of course – the Democrats killed it for “free”.
HondaV65 on October 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM
You could make a similar case about a half dozen or more issues. What if McCain had the campaiugn finance issues Obama has? Whst if McCain attended a church like Obama did? What if McCain had a friend like Ayers and Dohrn. What if McCain had a relationship like Obama has with Acorn? Etc., etc.
I’ve said it many times. The total corruption of the media is undermining the confidence in our electoral system which is the very foundation of our nation. One has to look no further than our financial system to see how quickly and catastrophically systems can collapse when confidence disappears. This is the most dangerous period in out history since the 1860s.
TheBigOldDog on October 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Vu-ja Dey?
rmgraha on October 20, 2008 at 11:01 PM
After the M$M and Bambi gets a hold of him, his wife and 5 kids…this poor guy is a goner.
RIP my friend.
Thanks for your bravery.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 20, 2008 at 11:04 PM
He wrote a whole novel about a militant Leftist takeover of the US. He’s used to the abuse by now.
Hannibal Smith on October 20, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I have no secret. No magic. No psychic connection. No link to God. I only know what I know. I can’t explain why I know this. I just know it.
I know that McCain will win on Nov 4 as surely as I know the sun will rise tomorrow. I’m not thrilled or excited by that fact anymore than I am thrilled by the next sunrise. If you put a gun to my head and told me to truthfully deny it, I would tell you to pull the trigger because I could not do so.
It is what it is. Make of it what you will.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:05 PM
The media will do a thorough vetting of Obama and all of his dirty laundry after the election. The media will have no choice once the entire country has gone down the toilet (help us Joe!)
I blame Boooosh will only work for so long.
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I call them dreams. Then I cry.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Oh really?
Is Capitalism Dead?
The market that failed was not exactly free.
TheBigOldDog on October 20, 2008 at 11:07 PM
“Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.” John 3:20 (NIV)
The MSM has joined evil in the dark. Now it is up to the new media to become the light of political and moral truth to this country and the world. That includes poltical, moral and spiritual media. All must shine the light or we are headed for a “dark ages” unprecedented in our time.
Mr_Magoo on October 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Fixed it and then some.
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Social Engineering at it’s best, backed up by Government regulations to push it, back it up with a Government guarantee and sell the worthless stocks all over the world, then politicians, namely Democrats, to say “nothing to see here” when the warning bells were going off, and blocked all attempts to fix and stop the coming failure…………. all the time being paid off by the institutions that they were being paid to oversee……….. all in the name of votes, and keeping their personal power.
And when it started to collapse……….. blame Bush, and sit at the head of the investigating committees….
………………. pretty much sums it up for me.
Seven Percent Solution on October 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM
You are wise in your age, Laura in Maryland.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM
And I say this because the cover up of the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac culpability is absolutely the biggest cover up by the media that anyone has ever witnessed. It is equeal to and more dangerous than the state run media of other countries because it masquerades as free press.
Mr_Magoo on October 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
My first thought exactly. But I won’t get banned for just THINKING it, will I? Oh, that’s rught – I can relax. Obama isn’t sworn in yet.
fred5678 on October 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
I was trying to avoid hyperbole (LOL!)
TheBigOldDog on October 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM
So good in fact I sent the link off to O’Reilly, seeing he had so much fun with Barney I figured this might get him to re-engage. Maverick……engage O’Reilly engage… you Obama shill! Lets talk abortion Billy, what say you…Catholic? Oh I see, you belong to the same congregation as Pelosi and Biden, Our Lady of the Perpetual Hypocrite.
Healing you will live to regret!
dmann on October 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Think they mentioned on Hannity and Colmes tonight that Bush trailed Kerry by 6 points on the evening of the ’04 election. And, of course … we now know that the exit polls had Kerry winning the next day and he was even congratulated by many.
Then the actual votes came in! LOL!
On another note … I’m starting to worry about myself. I’m watching Tammy Bruce on O’Reilly dissect P.J. Crowley and … well … I don’t know … but I’m finding she’s very hot. :P
HondaV65 on October 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Manly & Big
I live in deep blue liberal land, and if I am scared, then you ought to be terrified. (Pardon my familiarity, should I address you as Mssrs. Rash & Dog?)
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
O’Reilly had better get on board the Straight Talk Express. I’ve been boycotting Letterman since “the incident”. I don’t need a thank you note, but a little properly directed spunk is in order.
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Absolutely, I am going to have nightmares.
carbon_footprint on October 20, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Tacitus on October 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM
He’s done quite a lot of it, mostly since the Dems went batty after 9/11 (he’s in the Ron Silver club, you could say). I’ve even heard him guest hosting for Rusty Humphries on a couple of occasions.
DaveS on October 20, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I’m not great at reading poll results, but I attended my nephew’s wedding in San Jose this past weekend and met a young girl who works for Gallup. She is from Texas and is very concerned about where the country would be heading with Obama. She said she is encouraged by categories such as Candidate Support by Political Party and Ideology. Here are the latest 10/6-12:
Obama:
Liberal Dems – 95%
Moderate Dems – 87%
Conservative Dems – 78%
Independent – 33%
Lib/Mod/ Repubs – 17%
Conservative Repubs – 5%
McCain:
Liberal Dems – 3%
Moderate Dems – 10%
Conservative Dems – 15%
Independent – 25%
Lib/Mod/ Repubs – 77%
Conservative Repubs – 93%
Mr_Magoo on October 20, 2008 at 11:23 PM
HondaV65 on October 20, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Go to bed or drink more, thats it no other options!
dmann on October 20, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Wow, great piece.
CP on October 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I will be emailing the article to all the libs in my office tomorrow morning. It may be too late for most of them, but at least they can see the true story as they are denying the reality of the situation.
Mallard T. Drake on October 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Jamais vu
Apropos of nothing, I had no idea that Card was a Mormon.
Have read some of his SciFi books and enjoyed them. Read some of his editorials and heard some of his interviews, and found him to usually to be uncommonly high in common sense.
LegendHasIt on October 20, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Oh Geez, I couldn’t even get past the first post.
ROTFLMAO!
hawkdriver on October 20, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Maybe the feckless Republicans could deflect some of the damage they seem to willingly take by screaming this from the rooftops.
Valiant on October 20, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Good Lord…(vomited in back of my throat)
Dritanian on October 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Don’t hold your breath.
LegendHasIt on October 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Please, Laura. My pulse remains at about 82. McCain will win. I am more certan of that than I am of my surviving this winter.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Didn’t she play Lorrie on The Partridge Family?
Uhhh… mmmm… nevermind. Another Dey, another dullard.
electric-rascal on October 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Card is weird, but he’s spot on, here.
irishspy on October 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Thanks, I needed that!
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Outstanding article.
KCB on October 20, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Uugh! That was terrible (funny, but terrible). You must be ancient. I had a Partridge Family lunch box (with the orange Danny Bonaducci thermos).
Laura in Maryland on October 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM
http://www.ornery.org/index.html
His column. I will be writing him an email shortly, thanking him for his honesty. Maybe I’ll tell him how much I loved Ender’s Game, too, but he probably gets that all the time.
LickyLicky on October 20, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Fascinating. I hope you are right. We need your unflappable clarity around here. You will be here on Election Day to buck us up, won’t you?
Terrie on October 20, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Is it getting colder in hell yet?
Yakko77 on October 20, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I will be here on election day to tell everyone: I told you so.
ManlyRash on October 20, 2008 at 11:51 PM
If you liked that post by Orson Scott Card (OSC as his fans like to call him) I think many of you will like his other political columns. You can check them out at The Ornery American for being a democrat he is surprisingly conservative. Mostly I think that is because he is smart and keeps an open mind. Go check it out.
DWSC on October 20, 2008 at 11:56 PM
It’ll never penetrate the Press’ bubble
Iblis on October 20, 2008 at 11:58 PM
As someone who is a mortgage consultant, it is wonderful to see someone look at this and report on what has been going on for years in my industry. I have been doing loans for more than 15 years and it has been unbeleivable how lax requirements become about 8 years ago. The trickle down of the CRA has been horrible.
momof2 on October 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM
BAM! And I thought Enders Game was his greatest literary piece.
zhohlz on October 21, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I’ll meet you here and we’ll do virtual high fives! And I’ll crack a bottle of single malt. In the interest of full disclosure i’m cracking the bottle either way it goes.
Oldnuke on October 21, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I hope you’re not at the conference….yikes!
TheBigOldDog on October 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM
This is small taters when compared to Biden’s admission of the upcoming conflict. Lets see, Bush lied and people died, ok…for the sake of arguement. Whats the rational for the Dem. VP candidate to look forward to having our best and bravest in harms way so Obama can be tested! Stick knives in my eyes and thrust burning steel into my bowels, WTF is going on! So race trumps honor, duty, and any hope of sanity.
“This is Lawrence Kansas, is there anybody out there?”
dmann on October 21, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Mr. Card is a pretty liberal guy, but he does hit the nail on the head fairly often. If I remember correctly, he also has a proper understanding of the war against militant Islam.
Troy Rasmussen on October 21, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Here’s what will happen,as per usual!
After this election is said,and done,the MSM will
come forward,and tell American voters how they allowed
themselves to be duped about Obama!
And,if only they were able to control their political
libidos,the real truth would of come out,yad,yada,yada!
This Obama Obomination by the MSM is much like the Clinton
debauchery years of Monica!
Every,Lefty,Liberal pundit,talk show,MSM news program went
to bat for Bill ‘The sexual Predator Clinton’,and it was
adnausem to say the least!
And the same crap is repeating itself again!
Just as in Bimbogate,the MSM are rooting for another liar,
like Bill and defending him in the same manner!
So its almost,1992 to 2000 all over again!!
canopfor on October 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I’m ready to start a new country.
It will be easy….we’ve already got all the documents written.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I’ve been reading Orson Card’s site for a couple of years at least. Don’t always agree with him, but he’s always got good reasons for what he says. He updates infrequently, sometimes a month will go by, but I see he’s already replaced this column we’re talking about with a new one worth reading about the constitution. Go read that too.
http://www.ornery.org/
Webrider on October 21, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Anybody notice that this was a “Mormon” website? Where are righttobright and what’s his face, um, the other one that was really anti-mormon?
Troy Rasmussen on October 21, 2008 at 12:15 AM
TheBigOldDog,
I was not at the convention, but I am a banker not a broker, so hopefully I would have gotten out alive.
Honest to God, CRA is the root of this problem. I remember in early 2000, Citicorp has disturbances in their lobbies by activists complaining that they were not meeting their “quota” of low to moderate income loans and the newspapers were calling them racists. From that point on it became a free-for-all with lending as noone wanted to have that stigma attached to their brand. Sounds familiar today, huh?
momof2 on October 21, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Mickey Kaus was the lone voice in the Dem wilderness about Fannie, back in the day.
I don’t think he predicted the catastrophe we’ve seen, but he wrote several blog entries about how the problems (and worse!) were being ignored because it was a do-good organization.
MayBee on October 21, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Orson’s a great read. I’ve bookmarked his http://ornery.org/ and regret only that he updates only at six week intervals. Check his archives to find his apostasy from the Dem’s. It has much to do with Jihad but he’s found others. Safe to say he didn’t vote Kerry.
i b squidly on October 21, 2008 at 12:22 AM
What’s the point of honor when you can fsck the American people and the American economy, blame it on the opposing party and win both the Presidency and maintain your hold on the Congress?
Enjoy your 401(k) while it lasts. Don’t worry, though, you have the Democrats to take care of you.
spmat on October 21, 2008 at 12:28 AM
2nd section:
Still waiting for “Ender’s Game” in the theater. The book’s sequels weren’t good. Card blames the loss of a decade playing “Civilization” and so do I.
In substance if not humor Card’s as good as Whittle at http://www.ejectejecteject.com/. Until his recentl gig at NRO Bill’s been slow at new material as well.
Apres pos of nothing Tom Sowell has been cranking it out daily and I’m lovin it.
i b squidly on October 21, 2008 at 12:29 AM
First off, the media is in the tank. If there was even marginal interest in telling the truth, not just blindly following ideology, Obama would have been laughed out of the race during the primaries, if he had even been able to get in.
This isn’t about truthfulness, and hasn’t been for decades, it is about absolute control. Many of the politicians make flat out obvious lies, and the media refuses to call them if they are following the ideology, political cabal of choice. Obama’s flippent answers, and lies make this obvious.
Racism isn’t even part of the problem, other than for use as a bludgeon to get others in line with whatever preposterous meme the Democrats come up with.
Rode Werk on October 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Make no mistake about it- the Main Stream Media is morally bankrupt, and this election, specifically this topic, will be the final epitaph on the grave.
Now, the death of journalism will not be recognized by the masses right away. The corpse will not draw much attention until the putrid smell of decomposition begins to permeate the land.
That time is drawing near. Rigor mortis has already set in. The air will begin to fill with the unmistakable pungency of rot within the next few months. The complete process of bloated, slimy, rancid breakdown will follow over the course of the next 2 years.
Note well this time in history.
FiveWays on October 21, 2008 at 12:32 AM
This was a great read by Orson Scott Card (Ender). Calls the MSM on their lies. It will not have any effect on them. So make sure you vote!
hestrold on October 21, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Ah the link thing –> http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html
hestrold on October 21, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Sometimes megalomaniacs in history take advantage of social, financial, or military unrest to rise to power, and through eloquent assurances co-opt the masses.
The resulting ruin will cost a generation their soul. Our sin, if even recognized, is the blasphemy of taking our oaths of leadership too lightly when it was ours, and trading it for trivial compromise. We will look back and wish we had had the courage of conviction.
Starlink on October 21, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Country before Party? What you talkin’ ’bout Willis?
29Victor on October 21, 2008 at 12:38 AM
What is this Earth thing “honor” you speak of?
29Victor on October 21, 2008 at 12:38 AM
great article.
and that, in a nutshell, is why I am so angry.
Orson Scott Card, a successful Sci Fi writer, can explain the truth so articulately and persuasively. Many, many other people can also explain this point, clearly and persuasively, about how we got in the mess and SHOW who tried to stop it and who got in the way….and yet, our candidate and his veep CANNOT ARTICULATE AND MAKE THIS UNCOMPLICATED POINT!!!!
That is why I am pissed. That is why I think McCain is a pox on the party and why I think the party sold out to somebody who was OBVIOUSLY a loser for POTUS this election cycle. That is why we will lose and why we deserve to lose. Dont blame my ass…I voted for Romney.
And, sorry Rash, but McCain aint going to win, unfortunately, despite your continuous delusions.
Roger Waters on October 21, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Fuck a duck. I just realized that it’s a waste of time to hang out at Hot Air and commiserate with like minded malcontents.
Can anyone suggest a way to make a REAL difference in the outcome of this whorehouse of an election?
I have already sent more than I can afford to the RNC, so don’t suggest that.
winemkr on October 21, 2008 at 12:54 AM
I read the full article. Yikes!
Tonight: Someone from the DU will be digging through Mr. Card’s trash, someone from the Obama campaign will be calling a friend at the IRS and someone at the NYT will be going over Mr. Card’s daughter’s facebook page with a fine toothed comb.
Mr. Card…prepare to be plumbed.
P.S.
And Roger. Please, for me, for Romney, for everyone here, just shut the hell up.
29Victor on October 21, 2008 at 12:56 AM
I liked “Speaker for the Dead”
LegendHasIt on October 21, 2008 at 12:59 AM
I second that motion.
Laura in Maryland on October 21, 2008 at 1:07 AM
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