Biden: Obama’s inexperience will prompt nations to test us

posted at 11:05 am on October 20, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Joe Biden continues to try to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for Barack Obama.  In a stunning statement, Biden acknowledged that Obama’s lack of foreign-policy experience will provoke America’s enemies into creating an international crisis.  Biden apparently thinks this is just terrific:

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

Isn’t this an argument for electing someone with more experience?  Why should we elect a man who will embolden our enemies and push us to the brink of disaster?  Biden seems convinced that electing John McCain will make our enemies abroad much less sanguine about provoking us — which is one of the best arguments yet heard for electing McCain.

Even worse, Biden admits that an Obama administration will likely fumble the ball.  “It’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”  Really?  Why not?  I’d say that Biden admits that Obama will deviate from long-held principles of American foreign policy and diplomacy, and expects to reap a whirlwind of disapproval because of that.  Where will that be most likely to occur, given Obama’s previous political alliances with people like Rashid Khalidi?

Let’s not forget the example that Biden himself uses here.  John Kennedy got tested because he met with Nikita Khrushchev with “no preconditions”.  Kennedy acknowledged afterwards that it was an “unmitigated disaster“:

Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was “just a disaster.” Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” The Soviet leader left Vienna elated — and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.

Kennedy’s assessment of his own performance was no less severe. Only a few minutes after parting with Khrushchev, Kennedy, a World War II veteran, told James Reston of The New York Times that the summit meeting had been the “roughest thing in my life.” Kennedy went on: “He just beat the hell out of me. I’ve got a terrible problem if he thinks I’m inexperienced and have no guts. Until we remove those ideas we won’t get anywhere with him.”

What resulted?  The Berlin Wall and the Cuban missile crisis.  Kennedy wound up trading strategic intel and missile installations in western Asia in exchange for Soviet withdrawal of the nuclear missiles from Cuba.  The entire Kennedy administration turned out to be a foreign-policy disaster that was only overlooked because of the tragic assassination of Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.

I agree with Biden.  Obama is exactly like Kennedy in this regard, and our enemies will test us by threatening our interests around the globe if we elect Obama.  I’d rather avoid the problem altogether and elect a man who puts enough fear into the minds of our enemies to keep them from testing us at all.


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“Could you imagine if this guy ever had to step in as POTUS? Scary…”

I would truly feel better with an Irish Setter as President, than Joe Biden.

At least the Irish Setter would appear to be calm and to actually know what he’s doing.

NoDonkey on October 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Way to go Joe!! Keep it up.

jeanie on October 20, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Once he’s in, and he faces a crisis, and utterly fails, we can look forward to a Republican-controlled congress in 2010 and a Republican-held White House in 2012.

MadisonConservative on October 20, 2008 at 11:13 AM

This continues to be an awful argument.

Twenty-eight years after Carter left the White House, we are still working to contain the horror that Jimmy Carter unleashed when he withdrew our support from the secular (and corrupt, and despotic) regime in Iran, and gave the new regime international stature by cowering in fear before them.

Forty years after Johnson left the White House, the government continues to expand its control over the Health Care industry — control which began under Johnson with Medicare and Medicaid. And don’t get me started on Vietnam.

More than Sixty years after FDR left the White House, we are left with the massive pyramid scheme called Social Security, which is perhaps twenty years away from collapse. And it took until the end of Reagan’s presidency, forty years after FDR’s, that we finally began to fix the mistakes FDR made at Yalta.

So, please. Don’t tell me that the return to power of Republicans will be more than worth whatever harm Obama can do with Pelosi and Reid in the next two years.

Domestically and abroad they can do more harm in two years than we will be able to repair in twenty.

THIS vote matters.

ClintACK on October 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM

I agree that Kennedy was a foreign policy disaster, but at least his intentions were good. Obama would be a disaster without the good intentions.

duff65 on October 20, 2008 at 11:39 AM

…Kennedy’s intentions were the same as the intentions of the Papa Joe and the rest of that poxy clan: advance the banner of the Kennedys. Period.

…the comparison is rather apt: charming, telegenic, utterly vacuous and an historical landmine once in office…if there is a modern day Gibbon writing about the decline and fall of the US, scribble the following: the nations toes were hanging ten with Kennedy, the nudge into the abyss will be Obama….

Puritan1648 on October 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Joe’s an idiot but the USSR did test JFK because they knew he was inexperience and it almost led us into nuclear war. In fact, JFK was physically exhausted after being man-handled by Kruschev and had to take a few days off.

Stand fast and hold the line, Americans, that big purple cloud out there coming our way.

Claypigeon on October 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM

OMG…. I can’t believe this.

reshas1 on October 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Let’s hope the FBI does a better job of vetting likely officials than they’ve done ferreting out radical, anti-American Muslim propagandists.

Connie on October 20, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Even if the FBI does find something, why would it matter to Obama, except as preperation against future attacks?

MarkTheGreat on October 20, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Sounds to me like the Obama/Biden campaign want to get out in front of the inevitable excuse making they’ll need to be doing, once they stumble and fall.

Then they can say, “We told you we didn’t know what we were doing, but you elected us anyway!”

So they’ll have the last laugh at that point.

NoDonkey on October 20, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Maybe Biden is trying to make himself look useful, because if Obama WAS tested by a foreign enemy, Biden would be pulling Obama’s puppet strings.

New Presidents do get tested by our enemies. About three months after Bush 43 took office, a Chinese fighter rammed an American spy plane and took its crew hostage. Anyone remember that? Oh, by the way, it was Colin Powell who negotiated our way out of that one–our crew was velly velly solly! Maybe Powell was looking for the Secretary of State job again by endorsing Obama, because McCain would probably pick somebody more trustworthy!

Of course, Powell was Joint Chiefs Chairman under Bush I–wonder if he’d like to plan Obama’s unprovoked invasion of Pakistan?

But maybe I digress–Biden’s remark should prompt a quick reply from the McCain campaign. If foreign enemies test the new President, whose hand do they want on the tiller?

Steve Z on October 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Biden has his own health problems. Didn’t he have brain surgery?

Did they remove the problem or the brain itself?

mylegsareswollen on October 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM

“…they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.” Gee, if that’s the case, why isn’t Biden giving the current President a pass on his decisions? They sure aren’t popular, and Obama and Biden are trying to make the point that they are not sound, too. Well, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander — why should we give Obama a pass, Mr. Biden, when neither of you are willing to give President Bush the same pass?

unclesmrgol on October 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Putin is very aware of the Kennedy-Kruschev meetings.

So what will be worse, Kruschev-Castro v. Kennedy or Putin-Chavez v. Obama?

Castro didn’t have the oil reserves of Chavez, not the dire need to see oil prices rise.

reaganaut on October 20, 2008 at 11:56 AM

not = nor …………

reaganaut on October 20, 2008 at 11:57 AM

I don’t think Biden is making up a crisis — as much as I would prefer to believe that — I think he knows something and couldn’t keep his mouth shut.

CanadianGuy on October 20, 2008 at 11:32 AM

People who hate the U.S. (terrorists or call them what you will) are waiting–they’re good at that. If they were to attack us now, guaranteed John McCain would be voted in as POTUS, which of course they don’t want. So they’re waiting, and it stands to reason that once O’Bama is elected, yes, there will be an “incident.”

So it’s not a matter of believing that “Stand-up Joe” knows something we don’t know. It’s a matter of common sense to believe that we will be attacked somehow when the weaker candidate is elected into office.

And you becha–I’m gonna support the Big O with all of my heart, in the same way that the Left has supported Bush all these years.

labwriter on October 20, 2008 at 12:00 PM

It’s really, really depressing to imagine this yokel as president after BO becomes #5.

theRealMcCoy on October 20, 2008 at 12:00 PM

And the media says Sarah Palin is the dumb one.

Seriously though Joe the Senator is right. I can pretty much guarantee that the fist international crisis that an Obama administration will have to deal with will be Israel bombing the crap out of Iran’s Nuclear program and it will happen about 5 min after he is sworn in.

Dreadnought223 on October 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM

If the major networks don’t report this, it borders on treason. THIS is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING that’s been said in the last TWO YEARS.

marklmail on October 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM

“Maybe Biden is trying to make himself look useful, because if Obama WAS tested by a foreign enemy, Biden would be pulling Obama’s puppet strings.”

Who would be pulling Biden’s strings?

Because if there is anyone who needs strings, it’s Joe Biden.

It probably takes ten staffers to get Biden off of the toilet and into his suit each morning. Biden couldn’t run a lemonade stand on his own, he’s truly one of the most worthless people in Washington and that’s saying a lot.

NoDonkey on October 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM

J.B. The gift that keeps on giving without even asking ;)

vcferlita on October 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM

This continues to be an awful argument.

Twenty-eight years after Carter left the White House, we are still working to contain the horror that Jimmy Carter unleashed when he withdrew our support from the secular (and corrupt, and despotic) regime in Iran, and gave the new regime international stature by cowering in fear before them.

Forty years after Johnson left the White House, the government continues to expand its control over the Health Care industry — control which began under Johnson with Medicare and Medicaid. And don’t get me started on Vietnam.

More than Sixty years after FDR left the White House, we are left with the massive pyramid scheme called Social Security, which is perhaps twenty years away from collapse. And it took until the end of Reagan’s presidency, forty years after FDR’s, that we finally began to fix the mistakes FDR made at Yalta.

So, please. Don’t tell me that the return to power of Republicans will be more than worth whatever harm Obama can do with Pelosi and Reid in the next two years.

Domestically and abroad they can do more harm in two years than we will be able to repair in twenty.

THIS vote matters.
ClintACK on October 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Excellent.

wise_man on October 20, 2008 at 12:06 PM

There’s a reason why all of America’s enemies (Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il, Hugo Chavez, etc.) have expressed a preference for Obama: they know he is weak and foolish. That is exactly the kind of leadership they want for the U.S. — for all the obvious reasons.

AZCoyote on October 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Hmmm….on second thought, this might be where Colin Powell comes to the rescue?

misslizzi on October 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Colin Powell for VP?

ctmom on October 20, 2008 at 12:11 PM

“There’s a reason why all of America’s enemies (Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Il, Hugo Chavez, etc.) have expressed a preference for Obama: they know he is weak and foolish. That is exactly the kind of leadership they want for the U.S. — for all the obvious reasons.”

Obama also shares their view of this country.

That’s why he wants “change” so much. He loathes our history and what this country is.

NoDonkey on October 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Like he did with the UN about Iraq?

marklmail on October 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Joe The Dumber.

Spanglemaker on October 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM

It’s nice to have Biden on our side.

aero on October 20, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Spanglemaker on October 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM

very good!

right4life on October 20, 2008 at 12:13 PM

We should elect the person we think will be the better president.

Tom_Shipley on October 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM

“We”, Mr. Shipley? Last I remember, you were in Canada. Have you moved down here?

In any case, shouldn’t the person elected be the one we think will best maintain the Constitution? And isn’t the primary task of the President, by that same Constitution, the defense of our nation? And if one candidate has more strength than another in that regard, isn’t that worthy of consideration?

Obama has given away too many cards. Look at the Iranians, saying that they are establishing preconditions for negotiation, because it’s more in the interests of the United States to talk to them than for them to talk to the United States? When I compare Barack Obama to Mahmoud Ahmadeinjad, I can see just from the negotiating positions being set up who is stronger. And I’ll bet the solution to Obama’s problems is in the portion of foreign policy that Mr. Biden has forgotten, and which Mr. Obama never knew. We are in for a tough ride if the neophyte wins — a tough ride, in which we all get to clean the Augean stables, so to speak.

unclesmrgol on October 20, 2008 at 12:14 PM

ironically, it is likely that both sides of the aisle will agree w/ Biden’s comments, and interpret them in totally different ways.

toenail on October 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I have to agree with Biden. I have said that AQ, if they can manage it, will stage an attack once he is elected. They won’t do it now, or McCain would be elected for sure, and if Bush didn’t finish them off, McCain would.

I do reach a different conclusion from Biden, though: don’t vote for the youngster!

PattyJ on October 20, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Who needs 527s when you’ve got Gaffemaster J?

NoFanofLibs on October 20, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Biden has his own health problems. Didn’t he have brain surgery?

Did they remove the problem or the brain itself?

mylegsareswollen on October 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM

They removed the problem, which was the brain itself. That led to the worse, current problem.

DarkCurrent on October 20, 2008 at 12:31 PM

NoFanofLibs on October 20, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Gaffemaster J.

That’s got a nice ring to it.

wise_man on October 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM

THIS vote matters.

ClintACK on October 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM

While I completely agree with you, don’t you think think it might have been nice if the Republicans would have accomplished more while they had control of the legislative and executive branches for Bush’s first 6 years?

All that said, I guess they did keep things from going to hell in a handbasket — unlike the democratic Congress we’ve been plagued with for the last two years. Still, they could’ve done more.

wytammic on October 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Shot fired at the McCain bus? uh…hello? If this is so why isnt my headline scroller running wild with details?

johnnyU on October 20, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Between him and Bill Clinton we will definitely win!

becki51758 on October 20, 2008 at 12:38 PM

[So it’s not a matter of believing that “Stand-up Joe” knows something we don’t know. It’s a matter of common sense to believe that we will be attacked somehow when the weaker candidate is elected into office.
And you becha–I’m gonna support the Big O with all of my heart, in the same way that the Left has supported Bush all these years.
labwriter on October 20, 2008]

I can see how that would be tempting, but on the big issues of terrrorism, Russia, etc., I’m going to TRY (I’ll have to reach deep down) to support whoever the president is and urge strength over surrender……because as Biden said, it WILL happen.

Goodeye_Closed on October 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Talk about totally misconstruing a statement. Intelligence suggests that if Obama is eleceted there is likely to be a terrorist attack because terrorist beliee his Presidency would be a soft target. Bide being on the foreign relations committee is more than privy to this intel, and that is the reason he speaking the way he is. Intelligence still suggests that if McCain were elected terrorist wouldn’t cease they would simply try for a different target.

PresidenToor on October 20, 2008 at 12:43 PM

It’s saying a lot that my greatest fear of Obama is in his administration of foreign policy. He violates the most basic rule over and over again, that is, don’t give up anything unilaterally. There’s a global balance of power and you don’t just give stuff away.

– He says he will not have any US bases in Iraq. Good God. Up front he says this. So bad. Why not make it a point of negotiation
– Will meet with dictators without preconditions
– Will break NAFTA trade deal
– Will invade Pakistan under certain conditions
– Will cut back on nuclear weapon research
– it goes on and on

Obama’s attitude seems to be, I’m a nice guy, I don’t want to hurt anyone, can’t we all get along, hurting people is wrong, I don’t want to be wrong. In foreign policy he’s shown himself to be a first class idiot. If he EVER stands up for America I’ll fall off my chair in surprise.

Paul-Cincy on October 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM

That is when I quit voting as a Democrat. When Bill Clinton ran the first time. Every since, been Republican all the way! Glad I finally registered as a Rep. No regrets. Enough said, I cannot believe that so many Americans want a monkey like Obama to be President. He is a idiot. A Socialist. He will kill any chance for our Country to ever get back on the right track. Biden is a fruit also. I get queasy every time the two of them are on TV. eewwww. Now Bernanke, says we need another stimulus package? This is concerning me. I never liked that man. If I am wrong, let me know. I see him as a slimy crook. And, where will some of this new stimulus package go to next?

sheebe on October 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM

It’s about as close to an endorsement of McCain that we will ever get from Biden.

Pcoop on October 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM

[Shot fired at the McCain bus? uh…hello? If this is so why isnt my headline scroller running wild with details?
johnnyU on October 20, 2008]

We’ll be lucky if that wasn’t the opening salvo to a new civil war coming over the next eight years.

Enraged libs are only beginning to become unleashed. Just wait to see what happens if this election goes the way they think it will.

I am now listening to Rush for nostalgic reasons. He was a great guy in his time.

Goodeye_Closed on October 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM

PresidenToor on October 20, 2008 at 12:43 PM

What?

reaganaut on October 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Shot fired at the McCain bus? uh…hello? If this is so why isnt my headline scroller running wild with details?
johnnyU on October 20, 2008]

MSM will report that it was an evil hunter shooting at a moose. Beautiful irony for them.

marklmail on October 20, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Nope. Looks like Biden set this one up nicely:

WASHINGTON – With or without a formal title, Colin Powell will have Barack Obama’s ear if the Democratic presidential candidate wins the White House in the Nov. 4 election, the candidate said Monday.

“He will have a role as one of my advisers,” Barack Obama said on NBC’s “Today” in an interview aired Monday, a day after Powell, a four-star general and President Bush’s former secretary of state, endorsed him.

“Whether he wants to take a formal role, whether that’s a good fit for him, is something we’d have to discuss,” Obama said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/obama

misslizzi on October 20, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Biden is right, of course. Obama = taxpayer-funded OJT

So to the economic woes, we add the likely choice between appeasement or war, with strong odds that our oil supplies will be severely constricted.

Electing Obama will give our enemies the moment they’ve been waiting for, a politically and economically vulnerable America.

petefrt on October 20, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Isn’t it amazing that Slow Joe ignores the other president who was tested right after taking office?

That would be the chimp that’s kept us safe for seven years.

/angry bitter sarc off

platypus on October 20, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I guess Biden is not that dumb after all.

He is doing everything to get off the ticket now.

Too Late, you arrogant ambitious sucker.

Sir Napsalot on October 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM

WASHINGTON – With or without a formal title, Colin Powell will have Barack Obama’s ear if the Democratic presidential candidate wins the White House in the Nov. 4 election, the candidate said Monday.

Yeah because he did such a damned good job as SECSTATE. Senator Obama can only hope that Secretary Powell shows more loyalty to his leftist regime than he did to the Bush administration. Once a political traitor, always a political traitor. Benedict Arnold was never really trusted by the British and Obama would be a fool to trust Powell about anything.

highhopes on October 20, 2008 at 1:02 PM

The story line in Biden’s selection was that he brings “foreign policy experience” to the ticket. Nonsense, Obama knows exactly what Joe Biden is. He is a blowhard who will not provide an alternative center of power in the Obama administration. In short, he picked him to make the VP a nonentity who no one listens to. If you are planning on being the One you don’t need the Two hanging around in the background. Biden was selected for being a zero and he continues to show that he is less then zero. Anybody who thinks Joe Biden is Sarah Palin’s equal is ill informed and/or of subnormal intelligence.

The actual crisis will not wait for President Obama’s inauguration. The well known anti-Semitism of his foreign policy advisors and his personal commitment to swing US policy toward favoring Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas will prompt the Israelis to take care of business during interregnum of transition. I expect that the Israelis will attack Iran sometime between Christmas Eve and January 1 which is traditionally a slack period in Washington made even more so by a change in Parties. Just remember what Arial Sharon said upon being pressured by the Administration to make nice during the Infitada; pointedly told us that Israel is not Czechoslovakia.

Good luck Barry and Joe.

jerryofva on October 20, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Barack’s plan for security;

“This is the moment to begin the work of seeking the peace of a world without nuclear weapons.”

econavenger on October 20, 2008 at 1:04 PM

“Oops! I did it again!/
I’m an idiot! My mouth ran and said!/
Oh, baby, baby!/
You may think I’m that smart, /
but look at my foot in mouth!/
I’m not intelligent!”

[Sing it to the tune of "Oops! I Did It Again!"]

newton on October 20, 2008 at 1:05 PM

Start e-mailing the MSM- let them know you want to hear about this! If no one calls them on their bias, they think they can keep it up.

This latest Biden “truth”, (no gaffe, all truth) is important- there’s no way for him to twist it and change his meaning: “Basically you’ll have elected a really cool guy, but he’s not that bright and our thug friends overseas want to beat him up a little bit. Don’t be disappointed by what a crappy President he’ll appear to be”

PLEASE let me see this in an ad tomorrow!

anniekc on October 20, 2008 at 1:09 PM

What resulted? The Berlin Wall and the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy wound up trading strategic intel and missile installations in western Asia in exchange for Soviet withdrawal of the nuclear missiles from Cuba. The entire Kennedy administration turned out to be a foreign-policy disaster that was only overlooked because of the tragic assassination of Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.

Never discussed by anyone. WHY?! The only reason Kennedy is enshrined upon a pedestal is bcs he was assassinated! If he hadn’t been, I bet we’d have even more leftover disasters from that administration.
Will people ever learn?!

Badger40 on October 20, 2008 at 1:10 PM

we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him.

Oh yeah. They’re going to “Get in your face” if you don’t subscribe to his philosophies. By the way, make my brownshirt XXL please.

el hombre on October 20, 2008 at 1:10 PM

I especially like where he warns these libs that even they will be taken aback by The Policies of Zero. He also warns then of approval ratings in the tank. Thanks for the heads up, Joe. I’m preparing… are you? Oh, and Rick Moran – have fun eating your crow in radio silence.

rhodeymark on October 20, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Greasy Joe strikes again!

csdeven on October 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM

I don’t see how any of this helps Michelle’s children.

crazy_legs on October 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM

After thinking over this latest Biden gaffe I have concluded he has some kind of brain damage. I am not trying to be funny or glib here, I really think he is impaired mentally. Maybe something to do with his documented medical history.
The statement he made is not rational.

FireBlogger on October 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Iran hits Israel with a bio/chem attack coordinated with Hezbollah, Iran also and threatens the Gulf states and promises to close the Straits of Hormuz. Russia and China remind us of their interests in Iran. We refuse to allow Israel to fly over Iraq and publicly warn them against the use of nukes. We withdraw from the Gulf in order to promote regional stability and the world economy.

All Hail!

dmann on October 20, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Must proof read before pushing the button!

dmann on October 20, 2008 at 1:24 PM

This is a setup for us to accept Martial Law, and whatever Dictatorial Powers Obama needs, Just. Like. Hitler.

billypaintbrush on October 20, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Yes, I agree. How long do you think it will be into Fearless Leader’s reign before Israel bombs Iran’s nuclear facility? Testing 1,2,3…

hestrold on October 20, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Does somebody have video of Biden saying this?

An ad is needed that lays out the twin problems:
- If Biden is right, can America afford Obama as president?
- If Biden is wrong, is he fit to Be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

The problem with a bad product (like Obama) is it only makes its decline faster when you do massive advertising.

Right_of_Attila on October 20, 2008 at 1:37 PM

After thinking over this latest Biden gaffe I have concluded he has some kind of brain damage. I am not trying to be funny or glib here, I really think he is impaired mentally. Maybe something to do with his documented medical history.
The statement he made is not rational.

FireBlogger on October 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Probably part brain damage-and part Uncle Joe got told some big secrets recently as part of his national security transition, and everyone knows Uncle Joe can’t keep his mouth shut to save his life

anniekc on October 20, 2008 at 1:41 PM

billy:

Let’s not mirror image with the moonbats. Our Il Duce will take the same route as the real Il Duce. Mussolini was appointed Prime Minister in 1922 and didn’t finish consolidating power until 1925.

If Obama is a dictator in waiting he will first shut down the opposition press with the Fairness Doctrine, use hate speech laws to control the internet and stiffle the political opposition with restrictive laws that will only be enforced against the Republican Party. He will need time to establish his domestic security corps that is as well funded as the Pentagon before he can even consider invoking the Insurrection Act. These things take time.

A fumbled international crisis will not help him towards this goal. He needs peace and tranquility abroad and a satisfied domestic population to became a dictator.

I actually think that his ambition is to run the country the way Daley runs Chicago. Yeah, Daley is a dictator but he is also competent as well. Running the country like Mayor Nagin of New Orleans is the path to a loss of control of Congress in 2010 and defeat in 2012.

jerryofva on October 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Obama is exactly like Kennedy in this regard, and our enemies will test us by threatening our interests around the globe if we elect Obama. I’d rather avoid the problem altogether and elect a man who puts enough fear into the minds of our enemies to keep them from testing us at all.

What about putting a man into office so belicose that our potential enemies will be convinced that an invasion of their country is inevitable and they’ll have nothing to lose by developing nuclear weapons, threatening their neighbors, etc? If we’re going to “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” what do they have to lose by pursuing nukes? If anything, they gain an insurance policy.

Mark Jaquith on October 20, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Gravitini.

Akzed on October 20, 2008 at 1:51 PM

“potential enemies”?

No pal, we have real enemies.

And that don’t care which party occupies the White House.

They’ve made it quite clear that they want to kill or enslave anyone who doesn’t bow to the global Islamic caliphate.

This lunacy that if we don’t threaten these people, that they’ll go away is exactly the problem with unqualified dopes like Barack Obama.

NoDonkey on October 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM

We refuse to allow Israel to fly over Iraq and publicly warn them against the use of nukes.

dmann on October 20, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Slight technical correction – we do not have that authority any longer. We turned over control of Iraqi airspace to Iraq a few days ago. We can advise but not over-rule.

Sort of like Republicans in Congress.

platypus on October 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Hypothetical scenario: two years from now Iran produces a nuclear weapon and succeeds in smuggling it up the Potomac River detonating it and destroying most of Washington D.C.

The former Secretary of Agriculture is now president. What should he order loaded into the bombers being dispatched to Iran?

A: Nuclear weapons: kill them all let Allah sort them out
B: guided bombs: spare the innocent and limit collateral damage
C: Thank You cards

agmartin on October 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM

http://www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=1644

ALERT, ALERT, MEMO to McCain Campaign, you need to cut a commercial right now, this is scary, this is political gold for your campaign, but it is scary to think that Obama and Biden could get elected. You need to have McCain on the stump right now, demanding that Obama answer and explain what in the hell Biden is talking about, and why Biden is projecting weakness to our enemies.

On so many different levels this speech is horrible. Here is a flashback to the 2004 presidential campaign.

President Bush masterfully kept asking John Kerry a question on the stump:

Bush, whose administration cited the weapons and alleged terrorist links to justify the war, challenged the Democratic presidential nominee on Friday at a campaign rally in Stratham, N.H., to tell voters whether intelligence disclosures since the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 would have altered his position on the war. ”My opponent hasn’t answered the question of whether, knowing what we know now, he would have supported going into Iraq,” Bush said. ”The American people deserve a clear yes-or-no answer.”

And Kerry took the bait:

In response, Kerry, distinguishing between invading Iraq and authorizing the action said, ”Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it was the right authority for a president to have.” Kerry has said the decision to invade rested with the president.

As I wrote months ago, Kerry answered like the oaf that he was:

Idiot move of all time. All Kerry had to do was say was, “Why is George Bush asking me how I would have voted if I could go back in time, he is the President of the United States, why does he need my advice, the Iraq war is Bush’s war, the buck stops with the President, he made the final decision to go to war, if he is having second thoughts about it then he needs to think about whether he deserves another four years as President.”

A skilled politician would have turned that question around on Bush the minute he introduced it into his stump speeches.

So you may ask, why ask Obama a question, because McCain will not be asking a black and white question, he is asking Obama to explain what Biden was talking about, any answer Obama gives will make his team look bad. If he affirms Biden, it looks like he is projecting weakness, and sewing the seeds of fear. If he negates Biden, it looks as if the campaign is not on message, and Biden is not savvy when it comes to foreign policy.

Also, even if Kerry gave the answer I wanted him to, there was little political risk in Bush asking the question, he makes Kerry look weaker just by answering. So now is McCain’s opportunity, a skilled campaign should seize on this. If Obama leaves it hanging in the air, it will become a bigger albatross.

War69DotCom on October 20, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

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OH. MY. GOD.
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LORD HELP US.
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VOTE MCCAIN TO SAVE AMERICA, or else…..

shooter on October 20, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Plugsy the faux pas king reminds us that Obama will be seen as a foreign policy weakling, just as Jimmy Carter was. Carter’s reckless naivete opened the door for the Islamic revolution and he was stultified by Russia and Cuba as they made hegemonist incursions into Afghanistan and Africa. Castro also made a fool of Carter by emptying his overcrowded prisons and mental hospitals on the U.S. Meanwhile, Putin is licking his borscht-dripping chops and Iran is preparing to enter the ranks of insane superpowers.

whitetop on October 20, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Hypothetical scenario: two years from now Iran produces a nuclear weapon and succeeds in smuggling it up the Potomac River detonating it and destroying most of Washington D.C.

agmartin on October 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM

It appears you read this book:

http://teawithterrorists.com/

If not, you’ll love it.

platypus on October 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Remember earlier when the McCain Ad was right on top of all of the recent issues.

Where are the ads on this? The evil guys know John McCain, and they aren’t going to mess with him.

stenwin77 on October 20, 2008 at 2:19 PM

AUDIO of Biden.

Cuffy Meigs on October 20, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Even Biden knows McCain would make a better Prez.

pcbedamned on October 20, 2008 at 2:27 PM

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