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		<title>By: Naked grannies.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naked grannies.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Naked grannies....&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Sapwolf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whoa, brakes on. I am as opposed to Obama as anyone could be. I found myself in full-fetal position (mentally) for a time yesterday at the thought of an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate and a Supreme court 33% appointed by the One. But we MUST work within our system, and reversing lost elections via impeachment is NOT how our system works. We should be willing to use impeachment WHEN we find that a President has committed offenses at that level; but it is NOT acceptable to just start looking around for some excuse to impeach a POTUS. Some of the Dems have looked like fools for the last 8 years for doing exactly that. We need to be sure we avoid that mistake.

Let’s keep praying for our country to reject the socialistic, pro-abortion Obama. Then, win or lose, the efforts for 2010 and 2012 need to start IMMEDIATELY. Start now setting aside money to donate for campaigns. If possible, start getting your ducks in a row so that you’ll have time to spend getting conservatives elected. Many brave men and women have given their lives for our freedoms; it’s time people like me and many of you were willing to put out some significant time and treasure for it.

But seriously: ix-nay on the impeachment-ay alk-tay. I makes us sound upid-stay.

RegularJoe on October 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM
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AGREE TOTALLY!

Stop the stupid talk of wasting valuable political capital on impeachment.  Vote the opposition out and get to business.

If Bush had thought about how much political capital would be lost before he went to nation-building and pork agenda, the GOP would be winning this election hands down vs. the Messiah.

We got here because we DON&#039;T have a moderate/conservative President who believes part of his job is to build the party and movement.  Outside of protecting us from further terrorist attacks on our soil, and Alito and Roberts, Bush has been a poor Republican and poor President.

He could have been so much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whoa, brakes on. I am as opposed to Obama as anyone could be. I found myself in full-fetal position (mentally) for a time yesterday at the thought of an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate and a Supreme court 33% appointed by the One. But we MUST work within our system, and reversing lost elections via impeachment is NOT how our system works. We should be willing to use impeachment WHEN we find that a President has committed offenses at that level; but it is NOT acceptable to just start looking around for some excuse to impeach a POTUS. Some of the Dems have looked like fools for the last 8 years for doing exactly that. We need to be sure we avoid that mistake.</p>
<p>Let’s keep praying for our country to reject the socialistic, pro-abortion Obama. Then, win or lose, the efforts for 2010 and 2012 need to start IMMEDIATELY. Start now setting aside money to donate for campaigns. If possible, start getting your ducks in a row so that you’ll have time to spend getting conservatives elected. Many brave men and women have given their lives for our freedoms; it’s time people like me and many of you were willing to put out some significant time and treasure for it.</p>
<p>But seriously: ix-nay on the impeachment-ay alk-tay. I makes us sound upid-stay.</p>
<p>RegularJoe on October 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM
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<p>AGREE TOTALLY!</p>
<p>Stop the stupid talk of wasting valuable political capital on impeachment.  Vote the opposition out and get to business.</p>
<p>If Bush had thought about how much political capital would be lost before he went to nation-building and pork agenda, the GOP would be winning this election hands down vs. the Messiah.</p>
<p>We got here because we DON&#8217;T have a moderate/conservative President who believes part of his job is to build the party and movement.  Outside of protecting us from further terrorist attacks on our soil, and Alito and Roberts, Bush has been a poor Republican and poor President.</p>
<p>He could have been so much more.</p>
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		<title>By: RegularJoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;William Amos -- Would be great political irony if the dems loose the 2010 elections in congress and the new GOP congress investigates the 2008 election and impeaches Obama for fraud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whoa, brakes on.  I am as opposed to Obama as anyone could be.  I found myself in full-fetal position (mentally) for a time yesterday at the thought of an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate and a Supreme court 33% appointed by the One. But we MUST work within our system, and reversing lost elections via impeachment is NOT how our system works.  We should be willing to use impeachment WHEN we find that a President has committed offenses at that level; but it is NOT acceptable to just start looking around for some excuse to impeach a POTUS.  Some of the Dems have looked like fools for the last 8 years for doing exactly that.  We need to be sure we avoid that mistake.

Let&#039;s keep praying for our country to reject the socialistic, pro-abortion Obama.  Then, win or lose, the efforts for 2010 and 2012 need to start IMMEDIATELY.  Start now setting aside money to donate for campaigns.  If possible, start getting your ducks in a row so that you&#039;ll have time to spend getting conservatives elected.  Many brave men and women have given their lives for our freedoms; it&#039;s time people like me and many of you were willing to put out some significant time and treasure for it.

But seriously: ix-nay on the impeachment-ay alk-tay.  I makes us sound upid-stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>William Amos &#8212; Would be great political irony if the dems loose the 2010 elections in congress and the new GOP congress investigates the 2008 election and impeaches Obama for fraud.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa, brakes on.  I am as opposed to Obama as anyone could be.  I found myself in full-fetal position (mentally) for a time yesterday at the thought of an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumvirate and a Supreme court 33% appointed by the One. But we MUST work within our system, and reversing lost elections via impeachment is NOT how our system works.  We should be willing to use impeachment WHEN we find that a President has committed offenses at that level; but it is NOT acceptable to just start looking around for some excuse to impeach a POTUS.  Some of the Dems have looked like fools for the last 8 years for doing exactly that.  We need to be sure we avoid that mistake.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep praying for our country to reject the socialistic, pro-abortion Obama.  Then, win or lose, the efforts for 2010 and 2012 need to start IMMEDIATELY.  Start now setting aside money to donate for campaigns.  If possible, start getting your ducks in a row so that you&#8217;ll have time to spend getting conservatives elected.  Many brave men and women have given their lives for our freedoms; it&#8217;s time people like me and many of you were willing to put out some significant time and treasure for it.</p>
<p>But seriously: ix-nay on the impeachment-ay alk-tay.  I makes us sound upid-stay.</p>
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		<title>By: m064404</title>
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		<dc:creator>m064404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ConMom on October 20, 2008 at 8:17 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heck, if spies can infiltrate our government to steal secrets, then so can BHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ConMom on October 20, 2008 at 8:17 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Heck, if spies can infiltrate our government to steal secrets, then so can BHO.</p>
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		<title>By: tflst5</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much at stake in this election.   If Obama wins, there is no turning back.  He will be a 2 term president with the media backing him 100% during his first term.  He will hand-pick his successor with the media backing him 100% in his second term.  Bush was a very skilled politician to win re-election after the beating he took in the media for 4 years.   Obama is a very skilled politician who will not face a fraction of the criticism that Bush received - bad economy or not.   Obama has raised enough money now (questionable sources or not) to run for a second term if he wished - or just continue his propaganda ads on through his presidency.  

John Kerry didn&#039;t scare me a fraction of what Obama does.  I felt we could recover from a Kerry presidency.   Obama is going to leave this country a writhing socialist mess for the rest of my lifetime and much of my children&#039;s lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much at stake in this election.   If Obama wins, there is no turning back.  He will be a 2 term president with the media backing him 100% during his first term.  He will hand-pick his successor with the media backing him 100% in his second term.  Bush was a very skilled politician to win re-election after the beating he took in the media for 4 years.   Obama is a very skilled politician who will not face a fraction of the criticism that Bush received &#8211; bad economy or not.   Obama has raised enough money now (questionable sources or not) to run for a second term if he wished &#8211; or just continue his propaganda ads on through his presidency.  </p>
<p>John Kerry didn&#8217;t scare me a fraction of what Obama does.  I felt we could recover from a Kerry presidency.   Obama is going to leave this country a writhing socialist mess for the rest of my lifetime and much of my children&#8217;s lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyinglittletwerp</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyinglittletwerp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish he would speak like that more often.
Very Classy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish he would speak like that more often.<br />
Very Classy.</p>
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		<title>By: ConMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A man who was tortured for his country and never lost his faith is much more heroic and trustworthy than some slick talking Chicago politician who couldn’t pass a security clearance background check to serve in the US Armed Forces.

Black Adam on October 20, 2008 at 2:23 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ya, this is what I don&#039;t understand.  I have two uncles with very, very high level security clearance that work for a government lab.  Of course they and their entire families (extended, too) had to be vetted for clearance.

How is it possible that someone with strong ties to  domestic terrorists could even be that close to our White House, let alone serve as POTUS?  This is what scares me.

Can someone please explain the logic in this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A man who was tortured for his country and never lost his faith is much more heroic and trustworthy than some slick talking Chicago politician who couldn’t pass a security clearance background check to serve in the US Armed Forces.</p>
<p>Black Adam on October 20, 2008 at 2:23 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya, this is what I don&#8217;t understand.  I have two uncles with very, very high level security clearance that work for a government lab.  Of course they and their entire families (extended, too) had to be vetted for clearance.</p>
<p>How is it possible that someone with strong ties to  domestic terrorists could even be that close to our White House, let alone serve as POTUS?  This is what scares me.</p>
<p>Can someone please explain the logic in this?</p>
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		<title>By: Sapwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sapwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me give you guys some info:

Mrs Edwards DOESNT have cancer…yes, you heard it here first. I figured it out a long time ago…it was a ruse to help John Edwards win the nomination. Does she look to you like she is dying?? Didnt she just have a few months to live about 18 months ago?? The dude was cheating on her, and she knew about it, but she didnt care because the marriage is a SHAM just like the Clintons and she isnt sick with cancer.

John McCain makes me sick…and yes I will vote for him. The bastard cheated to win the republican nomination by teaming up with Huckabee and now that he has won it, he goes on David Letterman and makes a TOTAL AND COMPLETE ASS OUT OF HIMSELF by offering David Letterman oral sex with his “I screwed up….what can I say…I screwed up” HOW EMBARRASSING!!! Why didnt he say, hey ahole, the credit markets were freezing and it could be a disaster and I didnt want to come on your show and tell wise cracks…wouldnt be appropriate you fricking ahole. But NO, he says “he he he, I screwed up, what can I say”? This is the fighter?

Jon Stewart says “Hey Sarah Palin, F YOU”. Why doesnt McCain, a frequent guest on Jon Stewart, publicly say, “Hey Jon Stewart, you arent a man, you say F You to a mom…well F YOU!!!” But, no, McCain is no fighter…he is an old man that is a republican but pretty much hates conservatives.

And now, he has clearly recognized that he is losing. But HE is at peace. And you guys think thats admirable? HA HA HA!! You guys are clowns. He is going to stay senator for Arizona??? Throw his ass out!!! He lost to a liberal democrat with NO experience and he wouldnt take the gloves off and he got beat by his own STUPID ideas about public financing and the country will take it up the anus but he is at peace because he will stay a senator with his 7 houses from the broad that he married after he cheated on his first wife.

He has given up…he doesnt care about you…he is rich. He cheated to get the nomination. Obama will win and will work with Pelosi and Reid and their filibuster proof majority to ruin the country and redistribute your wealth…if you ever had any…and I do. Thats what you get when you nominate a douche like this guy. He is a POW…and thats all he has to say. He cant articulate a single point as well as 50% of the republicans out there.

Great job republicans and McCain. Thanks a bunch.

Roger Waters on October 20, 2008 at 1:55 AM
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Take out half the vitriol, and I agree with 90% you are saying here.  I never thought I&#039;d say that about a RW post.

By the way,  Sarah was a dynamite pick.  If McCain loses, it will be despite picking Sarah.  The base LOVES her and high turnout with the base has helped McCain tremendously.  Don&#039;t believe all the BS coming from the Noonan/Brooks movement.  If she wants it, and Obama wins and then has a Carter term, she quite possibly could be the next POTUS.  And, even if she isn&#039;t interested, Jindal is working his way up the system, and this guy is Catholic AND conservative.  There is a reason why 4 of the Supreme Court Justices are Catholic.

Conservative Catholics win elections because they are Center Right on many issues and pull in moderate lefty Catholics in numbers due to being Catholic.

I&#039;m optimistic.  McCain is closing with Obama and the GOP has a bright future.  It just needs to reorganize, get new leadership, refocus on a new pragmatic but conservative platform to FOCUS.

Also, the GOP can never give up on reversing Roe vs. Wade as part of the platform because if they did it would become the party of lightly-regulated selfishness without socons.  Libertarianism can never defeat the big government left on its own.  Economic, political, social conservatives need to unite and come up with an agreed vision of what we stand for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let me give you guys some info:</p>
<p>Mrs Edwards DOESNT have cancer…yes, you heard it here first. I figured it out a long time ago…it was a ruse to help John Edwards win the nomination. Does she look to you like she is dying?? Didnt she just have a few months to live about 18 months ago?? The dude was cheating on her, and she knew about it, but she didnt care because the marriage is a SHAM just like the Clintons and she isnt sick with cancer.</p>
<p>John McCain makes me sick…and yes I will vote for him. The bastard cheated to win the republican nomination by teaming up with Huckabee and now that he has won it, he goes on David Letterman and makes a TOTAL AND COMPLETE ASS OUT OF HIMSELF by offering David Letterman oral sex with his “I screwed up….what can I say…I screwed up” HOW EMBARRASSING!!! Why didnt he say, hey ahole, the credit markets were freezing and it could be a disaster and I didnt want to come on your show and tell wise cracks…wouldnt be appropriate you fricking ahole. But NO, he says “he he he, I screwed up, what can I say”? This is the fighter?</p>
<p>Jon Stewart says “Hey Sarah Palin, F YOU”. Why doesnt McCain, a frequent guest on Jon Stewart, publicly say, “Hey Jon Stewart, you arent a man, you say F You to a mom…well F YOU!!!” But, no, McCain is no fighter…he is an old man that is a republican but pretty much hates conservatives.</p>
<p>And now, he has clearly recognized that he is losing. But HE is at peace. And you guys think thats admirable? HA HA HA!! You guys are clowns. He is going to stay senator for Arizona??? Throw his ass out!!! He lost to a liberal democrat with NO experience and he wouldnt take the gloves off and he got beat by his own STUPID ideas about public financing and the country will take it up the anus but he is at peace because he will stay a senator with his 7 houses from the broad that he married after he cheated on his first wife.</p>
<p>He has given up…he doesnt care about you…he is rich. He cheated to get the nomination. Obama will win and will work with Pelosi and Reid and their filibuster proof majority to ruin the country and redistribute your wealth…if you ever had any…and I do. Thats what you get when you nominate a douche like this guy. He is a POW…and thats all he has to say. He cant articulate a single point as well as 50% of the republicans out there.</p>
<p>Great job republicans and McCain. Thanks a bunch.</p>
<p>Roger Waters on October 20, 2008 at 1:55 AM
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<p>Take out half the vitriol, and I agree with 90% you are saying here.  I never thought I&#8217;d say that about a RW post.</p>
<p>By the way,  Sarah was a dynamite pick.  If McCain loses, it will be despite picking Sarah.  The base LOVES her and high turnout with the base has helped McCain tremendously.  Don&#8217;t believe all the BS coming from the Noonan/Brooks movement.  If she wants it, and Obama wins and then has a Carter term, she quite possibly could be the next POTUS.  And, even if she isn&#8217;t interested, Jindal is working his way up the system, and this guy is Catholic AND conservative.  There is a reason why 4 of the Supreme Court Justices are Catholic.</p>
<p>Conservative Catholics win elections because they are Center Right on many issues and pull in moderate lefty Catholics in numbers due to being Catholic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m optimistic.  McCain is closing with Obama and the GOP has a bright future.  It just needs to reorganize, get new leadership, refocus on a new pragmatic but conservative platform to FOCUS.</p>
<p>Also, the GOP can never give up on reversing Roe vs. Wade as part of the platform because if they did it would become the party of lightly-regulated selfishness without socons.  Libertarianism can never defeat the big government left on its own.  Economic, political, social conservatives need to unite and come up with an agreed vision of what we stand for.</p>
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		<title>By: hawkdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ceroth on October 20, 2008 at 12:31 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Boycott it all. We had that stupid series on a server at Bagram while I was deployed. I watched a few episodes until I saw the one of the old guy down the street who was a pedophile having daydreams about marrying Chris. I literally cringed I was so uncomfortable with the representation. The show is pure vile. And considering some of the themes of the show, I would half expect that Seth McFarlane has some pretty large mental problems. 

A friend of mine asked me a long time ago why I would watch a show that I wouldn&#039;t let my kid watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ceroth on October 20, 2008 at 12:31 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Boycott it all. We had that stupid series on a server at Bagram while I was deployed. I watched a few episodes until I saw the one of the old guy down the street who was a pedophile having daydreams about marrying Chris. I literally cringed I was so uncomfortable with the representation. The show is pure vile. And considering some of the themes of the show, I would half expect that Seth McFarlane has some pretty large mental problems. </p>
<p>A friend of mine asked me a long time ago why I would watch a show that I wouldn&#8217;t let my kid watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Byler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Byler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the transcript of the whole interview.  Chris Wallace shows himself to be a liberal jerk.  John McCain is excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the transcript of the whole interview.  Chris Wallace shows himself to be a liberal jerk.  John McCain is excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Alinsky’s marxism which lives on through BO and his ilk: Stupify the American masses into submission. It’s easy to stupify people when they’re on drugs half the time, playing video games, watching the Daily Show, and being lectured to by little alinskys in college classrooms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.

See my comment here: http://tinyurl.com/5om9ru 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The left will need to slow down on this “Obama is 100% going to be it” theme soon or they will suppress their own turnout. After all, we aren’t talking about the brightest and most motivated bunch so why should they bother voting if it’s going to be such a landslide for Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
. 

Again, pace my comment above - what do you think the coming &lt;em&gt;half hour infomercial&lt;/em&gt; is for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Alinsky’s marxism which lives on through BO and his ilk: Stupify the American masses into submission. It’s easy to stupify people when they’re on drugs half the time, playing video games, watching the Daily Show, and being lectured to by little alinskys in college classrooms.</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<p>See my comment here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5om9ru" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5om9ru</a> </p>
<blockquote><p>The left will need to slow down on this “Obama is 100% going to be it” theme soon or they will suppress their own turnout. After all, we aren’t talking about the brightest and most motivated bunch so why should they bother voting if it’s going to be such a landslide for Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p>. </p>
<p>Again, pace my comment above &#8211; what do you think the coming <em>half hour infomercial</em> is for?</p>
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		<title>By: Caststeel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caststeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Götterdämmerung.

The left dreams it, the right fights it. Obama is no King George and if, a big if, he wins it won’t take long before his own army eats him.

Bring on Animal Farm, lefties. If you think Fly Over America is going to bow and scrape you might want to get Zogby to give you a poll first.

Limerick on October 20, 2008 at 2:27 AM

The left can see their own goals so clearly but cannot see the historical consequences. The French Revolution was the same. Louis XIV &gt; anarchy &gt; Robespierre &gt; Bonaparte &gt; 300 years of &quot;near greatness&quot;. English Revolution similar. Sigh. 
And America will divide in three; the two coasts vs. central. Actually NW East Coast + Cal + N IL vs. most of the rest. Will be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Götterdämmerung.</p>
<p>The left dreams it, the right fights it. Obama is no King George and if, a big if, he wins it won’t take long before his own army eats him.</p>
<p>Bring on Animal Farm, lefties. If you think Fly Over America is going to bow and scrape you might want to get Zogby to give you a poll first.</p>
<p>Limerick on October 20, 2008 at 2:27 AM</p>
<p>The left can see their own goals so clearly but cannot see the historical consequences. The French Revolution was the same. Louis XIV &gt; anarchy &gt; Robespierre &gt; Bonaparte &gt; 300 years of &#8220;near greatness&#8221;. English Revolution similar. Sigh.<br />
And America will divide in three; the two coasts vs. central. Actually NW East Coast + Cal + N IL vs. most of the rest. Will be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: CapedConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>CapedConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the Palin portion goes, I was firmly on the sidelines in the &quot;let them have 4 years of Carter so maybe they&#039;ll find some true conservatives&quot; camp until Palin was selected.  The left will need to slow down on this &quot;Obama is 100% going to be it&quot; theme soon or they will suppress their own turnout.  After all, we aren&#039;t talking about the brightest and most motivated bunch so why should they bother voting if it&#039;s going to be such a landslide for Obama.  On the other hand, I suspect Republican turnout will be the largest ever and exit polls will be completely meaningless.

CC - BHO:  &quot;my Muslim faith&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the Palin portion goes, I was firmly on the sidelines in the &#8220;let them have 4 years of Carter so maybe they&#8217;ll find some true conservatives&#8221; camp until Palin was selected.  The left will need to slow down on this &#8220;Obama is 100% going to be it&#8221; theme soon or they will suppress their own turnout.  After all, we aren&#8217;t talking about the brightest and most motivated bunch so why should they bother voting if it&#8217;s going to be such a landslide for Obama.  On the other hand, I suspect Republican turnout will be the largest ever and exit polls will be completely meaningless.</p>
<p>CC &#8211; BHO:  &#8220;my Muslim faith&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin, McCain More Fun, Part III &#171; Riggword Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin, McCain More Fun, Part III &#171; Riggword Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McCain stands up for Sarah Palin.  He speaks Optimism and Thankfulness; Positively Great!  (More at Hot Air) Obama is the complaining sad sack! For one thing it is impossible to out complain the great [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McCain stands up for Sarah Palin.  He speaks Optimism and Thankfulness; Positively Great!  (More at Hot Air) Obama is the complaining sad sack! For one thing it is impossible to out complain the great [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Götterdämmerung.

The left dreams it, the right fights it. Obama is no King George and if, a big if, he wins it won&#039;t take long before his own army eats him.

Bring on Animal Farm, lefties. If you think Fly Over America is going to bow and scrape you might want to get Zogby to give you a poll first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Götterdämmerung.</p>
<p>The left dreams it, the right fights it. Obama is no King George and if, a big if, he wins it won&#8217;t take long before his own army eats him.</p>
<p>Bring on Animal Farm, lefties. If you think Fly Over America is going to bow and scrape you might want to get Zogby to give you a poll first.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man who was tortured for his country and never lost his faith is much more heroic and trustworthy than some slick talking Chicago politician who couldn&#039;t pass a security clearance background check to serve in the US Armed Forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man who was tortured for his country and never lost his faith is much more heroic and trustworthy than some slick talking Chicago politician who couldn&#8217;t pass a security clearance background check to serve in the US Armed Forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Percent Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven Percent Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh.......... a few of us left the re-education camp...

...... all we needed to do was to sign an ACORN voter registration petition, and say we like Barry O... My name was Abraham Lincoln.....

... some of us stayed behind to keep tabs of the overseers and to listen in on their plans....... I will keep you informed on what they have planned.

As for me........... time for a shower, a good meal, and time with the wife and kid.........

Then it is back to work.....

&lt;blockquote&gt;hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have your back, get some rest, and we will see you on the flight line in the morning........

Barry O, we are coming for you, you worthless piece of sh&quot;t......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. a few of us left the re-education camp&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230; all we needed to do was to sign an ACORN voter registration petition, and say we like Barry O&#8230; My name was Abraham Lincoln&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8230; some of us stayed behind to keep tabs of the overseers and to listen in on their plans&#8230;&#8230;. I will keep you informed on what they have planned.</p>
<p>As for me&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. time for a shower, a good meal, and time with the wife and kid&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Then it is back to work&#8230;..</p>
<blockquote><p>hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>We have your back, get some rest, and we will see you on the flight line in the morning&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Barry O, we are coming for you, you worthless piece of sh&#8221;t&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: newton</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In a couple of weeks, a large number of voters, likely even a majority, will go to the polls to choose a political Pied Piper to lead them to an America where everyone shares and hugs and plays patty cake in equal-size houses.
- Nolan Finley&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But voters, like the children brought to the cave by the Pied Piper, have no idea what awaits them on the other end of the cave - &lt;em&gt;serfdom&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a couple of weeks, a large number of voters, likely even a majority, will go to the polls to choose a political Pied Piper to lead them to an America where everyone shares and hugs and plays patty cake in equal-size houses.<br />
- Nolan Finley</p></blockquote>
<p>But voters, like the children brought to the cave by the Pied Piper, have no idea what awaits them on the other end of the cave &#8211; <em>serfdom</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: cgoode777</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey neat.

On the new family guy, stewie steals a uniform off a nazi and notices a mccain/palin button on it.

Hard to escape it .. even when I&#039;m just trying to catch a laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey neat.</p>
<p>On the new family guy, stewie steals a uniform off a nazi and notices a mccain/palin button on it.</p>
<p>Hard to escape it .. even when I&#8217;m just trying to catch a laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Waters</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me give you guys some info:

Mrs Edwards DOESNT have cancer...yes, you heard it here first.  I figured it out a long time ago...it was a ruse to help John Edwards win the nomination.  Does she look to you like she is dying??  Didnt she just have a few months to live about 18 months ago??  The dude was cheating on her, and she knew about it, but she didnt care because the marriage is a SHAM just like the Clintons and she isnt sick with cancer.

John McCain makes me sick...and yes I will vote for him.  The bastard cheated to win the republican nomination by teaming up with Huckabee and now that he has won it, he goes on David Letterman and makes a TOTAL AND COMPLETE ASS OUT OF HIMSELF by offering David Letterman oral sex with his &quot;I screwed up....what can I say...I screwed up&quot;  HOW EMBARRASSING!!!  Why didnt he say, hey ahole, the credit markets were freezing and it could be a disaster and I didnt want to come on your show and tell wise cracks...wouldnt be appropriate you fricking ahole.  But NO, he says &quot;he he he, I screwed up, what can I say&quot;?  This is the fighter?

Jon Stewart says &quot;Hey Sarah Palin, F YOU&quot;.  Why doesnt McCain, a frequent guest on Jon Stewart, publicly say, &quot;Hey Jon Stewart, you arent a man, you say F You to a mom...well F YOU!!!&quot;  But, no, McCain is no fighter...he is an old man that is a republican but pretty much hates conservatives.

And now, he has clearly recognized that he is losing.  But HE is at peace.  And you guys think thats admirable?  HA HA HA!!  You guys are clowns.  He is going to stay senator for Arizona???  Throw his ass out!!!  He lost to a liberal democrat with NO experience and he wouldnt take the gloves off and he got beat by his own STUPID ideas about public financing and the country will take it up the anus but he is at peace because he will stay a senator with his 7 houses from the broad that he married after he cheated on his first wife.

He has given up...he doesnt care about you...he is rich.  He cheated to get the nomination.  Obama will win and will work with Pelosi and Reid and their filibuster proof majority to ruin the country and redistribute your wealth...if you ever had any...and I do.  Thats what you get when you nominate a douche like this guy.   He is a POW...and thats all he has to say.  He cant articulate a single point as well as 50% of the republicans out there.

Great job republicans and McCain.  Thanks a bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me give you guys some info:</p>
<p>Mrs Edwards DOESNT have cancer&#8230;yes, you heard it here first.  I figured it out a long time ago&#8230;it was a ruse to help John Edwards win the nomination.  Does she look to you like she is dying??  Didnt she just have a few months to live about 18 months ago??  The dude was cheating on her, and she knew about it, but she didnt care because the marriage is a SHAM just like the Clintons and she isnt sick with cancer.</p>
<p>John McCain makes me sick&#8230;and yes I will vote for him.  The bastard cheated to win the republican nomination by teaming up with Huckabee and now that he has won it, he goes on David Letterman and makes a TOTAL AND COMPLETE ASS OUT OF HIMSELF by offering David Letterman oral sex with his &#8220;I screwed up&#8230;.what can I say&#8230;I screwed up&#8221;  HOW EMBARRASSING!!!  Why didnt he say, hey ahole, the credit markets were freezing and it could be a disaster and I didnt want to come on your show and tell wise cracks&#8230;wouldnt be appropriate you fricking ahole.  But NO, he says &#8220;he he he, I screwed up, what can I say&#8221;?  This is the fighter?</p>
<p>Jon Stewart says &#8220;Hey Sarah Palin, F YOU&#8221;.  Why doesnt McCain, a frequent guest on Jon Stewart, publicly say, &#8220;Hey Jon Stewart, you arent a man, you say F You to a mom&#8230;well F YOU!!!&#8221;  But, no, McCain is no fighter&#8230;he is an old man that is a republican but pretty much hates conservatives.</p>
<p>And now, he has clearly recognized that he is losing.  But HE is at peace.  And you guys think thats admirable?  HA HA HA!!  You guys are clowns.  He is going to stay senator for Arizona???  Throw his ass out!!!  He lost to a liberal democrat with NO experience and he wouldnt take the gloves off and he got beat by his own STUPID ideas about public financing and the country will take it up the anus but he is at peace because he will stay a senator with his 7 houses from the broad that he married after he cheated on his first wife.</p>
<p>He has given up&#8230;he doesnt care about you&#8230;he is rich.  He cheated to get the nomination.  Obama will win and will work with Pelosi and Reid and their filibuster proof majority to ruin the country and redistribute your wealth&#8230;if you ever had any&#8230;and I do.  Thats what you get when you nominate a douche like this guy.   He is a POW&#8230;and thats all he has to say.  He cant articulate a single point as well as 50% of the republicans out there.</p>
<p>Great job republicans and McCain.  Thanks a bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckeyeSam</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckeyeSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t have time my cowardice.

From Sunday&#039;s Boston Globe.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/10/19/healthcare_shouldnt_be_linked_to_employment?mode=PF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t have time my cowardice.</p>
<p>From Sunday&#8217;s Boston Globe.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/10/19/healthcare_shouldnt_be_linked_to_employment?mode=PF" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/10/19/healthcare_shouldnt_be_linked_to_employment?mode=PF</a></p>
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		<title>By: mycowardice</title>
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		<dc:creator>mycowardice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First, the exclusion from the gross income of employees for health insurance premiums paid by employers is a longstanding legislative exception to income taxation. The exclusion is not a right–divine, natural, constitutional, or otherwise. Are we clear? 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes we are, but then so are the rest of our tax system, including tax rate. A 33% or 39% tax rate is no right divine, etc. It&#039;s all open for discussion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Second, McCain’s health care tax credit is a simple mechanism that puts all workers–employees, greater than 2% shareholders in S corporations, general partners in partnerships, members in LLCs, and Schedule C filers–on roughly the same playing field with regard to the tax treatment of their health care premiums. In short, all workers must include all cash income and (under McCain’s plan) employer-provided health insurance premiums in gross income. From there, you undertake the same income tax computation as normal, and, in the end, you offset your bottom-line income-tax liability with McCain’s $5,000 credit. 
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If this was the intent, why not simply give a 5000$ tax credit to people that didn&#039;t have employer based health insurance? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Unlike the lie that Obama and Biden tell–that an increase in gross income ($12,000 is often cited for illustration) is not adequately offset by McCain’s $5,000 credit–the proper comparison requires you to multiply the increase in gross income (again, say, $12,000) by the taxpayer’s marginal tax rate (say, 25%). For this example, the increased tax liability would be $3,000 ($12,000 x 25%), which would be offset completely by the $5,000 tax credit. Are we clear? 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What we are clear about is that McCain is meddling in the way taxes are paid. Let me give you another case. Imagine your premium is costing you $20000 and that your marginal tax rate is 33%. Doesn&#039;t it show that the 5000$ tax credit won&#039;t be sufficient to cover your real costs?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Putting all workers on roughly the same playing field with regard to the income tax treatment of their health care premiums has nothing to do with socialism. Rather, it has everything to do with providing taxpayers with roughly equal treatment (not necessarily results) under the tax law. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When you start your sentence by &#039;putting all workers on roughly the same playing field...&#039;, it&#039;s sounds like socialism. Barack also wants to put people on the same playing field. You chose to finish your sentence with &#039;the tax law&#039;, but the same sentence could equally be done with other topics. The point is that you seem to think there is a problem in the current system, an unfairness of some sort, and you want to correct it. And the way you want to correct it is by potentially taxing the people at the top of the ladder, because, according to McCain, those are the ones that will see the 5000$ credit as not sufficient.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Third, the tax credit offers flexibility in a few respects. Employees could, if they wish, choose not to accept the employer’s plan and, presumably, receive correspondingly higher cash wages, which would give them the additional wherewithal to purchase their own insurance. An employee may not like an employer’s plan for any number of reasons. For example, an employee may find a plan that covers matters inadequately covered under his or her employer’s plan or, in the alternative, may cover matters of no concern to the employee. Also, once in an individual plan, an employee wouldn’t need to remain at an employer for fear of being denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That seems to be ignoring the benefit of being in a large group. Most review of McCain&#039;s plan say that people with preexisting conditions will be negatively impacted because their premiums will shoot up. If you add this to the incentive for employers to drop coverage, it&#039;s a recipe for disaster.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fourth, putting health insurance coverage in the hands of individuals should create a much greater market for individual policies. As things stand, insurance companies devote most of their efforts to tailoring coverage acceptable to large pools of insureds found in employess of employers. I see McCain’s plan as a way of introducing a great deal of competition into the industry, which seems a good thing. I see it as a way to make the health insurance industry more like the auto insurance industry. Employers don’t handle auto insurance for employees, but then there’s never been an exclusion from income for auto insurance premiums paid by an employer for employees. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You might see it that way, but the analysis says it&#039;s not true. This is not an industry in need of competition, it&#039;s an industry in need of regulation. The fact that you want to send people on the fre market means that the people with pre existing conditions will see big rise in their premium, if they can even get coverage. Part of the safety gap in our system is the employer coverage. Remove that and it might be really bad.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I’m sure that I missed a few things, but I’ll repeat what I said above. Ending the income tax exclusion for employer-provided health insurance premiums in favor of McCain’s tax credit has nothing to do with socialism. 
...
BuckeyeSam on October 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll repeat what I say. His plan will increase taxes for some while reducing it for others. The same could be said about Obama&#039;s tax plan. Let me quote McCain on this topic:

&lt;blockquote&gt;MCCAIN: Actually, my position is that it will be, it will give people actually more money to go out and purchase tax - health insurance on their own and only those with the Cadillac gold-plated health insurance policies today are the ones who might suffer from it. The ones -

STEPHANOPOULOS: So they would see their taxes go up potentially. 

MCCAIN: It depends on, on, on what plan they have. But that’s usually the wealthiest people. Ordinary working Americans have the kind of - or an overwhelming majority have the health insurance plans that this tax credit, refundable tax credit, will actually put more money in their pockets for the purchase of health care than what they had before.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First, the exclusion from the gross income of employees for health insurance premiums paid by employers is a longstanding legislative exception to income taxation. The exclusion is not a right–divine, natural, constitutional, or otherwise. Are we clear?
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<p>Yes we are, but then so are the rest of our tax system, including tax rate. A 33% or 39% tax rate is no right divine, etc. It&#8217;s all open for discussion.</p>
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Second, McCain’s health care tax credit is a simple mechanism that puts all workers–employees, greater than 2% shareholders in S corporations, general partners in partnerships, members in LLCs, and Schedule C filers–on roughly the same playing field with regard to the tax treatment of their health care premiums. In short, all workers must include all cash income and (under McCain’s plan) employer-provided health insurance premiums in gross income. From there, you undertake the same income tax computation as normal, and, in the end, you offset your bottom-line income-tax liability with McCain’s $5,000 credit.
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<p>If this was the intent, why not simply give a 5000$ tax credit to people that didn&#8217;t have employer based health insurance? </p>
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Unlike the lie that Obama and Biden tell–that an increase in gross income ($12,000 is often cited for illustration) is not adequately offset by McCain’s $5,000 credit–the proper comparison requires you to multiply the increase in gross income (again, say, $12,000) by the taxpayer’s marginal tax rate (say, 25%). For this example, the increased tax liability would be $3,000 ($12,000 x 25%), which would be offset completely by the $5,000 tax credit. Are we clear?
</p></blockquote>
<p>What we are clear about is that McCain is meddling in the way taxes are paid. Let me give you another case. Imagine your premium is costing you $20000 and that your marginal tax rate is 33%. Doesn&#8217;t it show that the 5000$ tax credit won&#8217;t be sufficient to cover your real costs?</p>
<blockquote><p>
Putting all workers on roughly the same playing field with regard to the income tax treatment of their health care premiums has nothing to do with socialism. Rather, it has everything to do with providing taxpayers with roughly equal treatment (not necessarily results) under the tax law.
</p></blockquote>
<p>When you start your sentence by &#8216;putting all workers on roughly the same playing field&#8230;&#8217;, it&#8217;s sounds like socialism. Barack also wants to put people on the same playing field. You chose to finish your sentence with &#8216;the tax law&#8217;, but the same sentence could equally be done with other topics. The point is that you seem to think there is a problem in the current system, an unfairness of some sort, and you want to correct it. And the way you want to correct it is by potentially taxing the people at the top of the ladder, because, according to McCain, those are the ones that will see the 5000$ credit as not sufficient.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Third, the tax credit offers flexibility in a few respects. Employees could, if they wish, choose not to accept the employer’s plan and, presumably, receive correspondingly higher cash wages, which would give them the additional wherewithal to purchase their own insurance. An employee may not like an employer’s plan for any number of reasons. For example, an employee may find a plan that covers matters inadequately covered under his or her employer’s plan or, in the alternative, may cover matters of no concern to the employee. Also, once in an individual plan, an employee wouldn’t need to remain at an employer for fear of being denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That seems to be ignoring the benefit of being in a large group. Most review of McCain&#8217;s plan say that people with preexisting conditions will be negatively impacted because their premiums will shoot up. If you add this to the incentive for employers to drop coverage, it&#8217;s a recipe for disaster.</p>
<blockquote><p>Fourth, putting health insurance coverage in the hands of individuals should create a much greater market for individual policies. As things stand, insurance companies devote most of their efforts to tailoring coverage acceptable to large pools of insureds found in employess of employers. I see McCain’s plan as a way of introducing a great deal of competition into the industry, which seems a good thing. I see it as a way to make the health insurance industry more like the auto insurance industry. Employers don’t handle auto insurance for employees, but then there’s never been an exclusion from income for auto insurance premiums paid by an employer for employees.
</p></blockquote>
<p>You might see it that way, but the analysis says it&#8217;s not true. This is not an industry in need of competition, it&#8217;s an industry in need of regulation. The fact that you want to send people on the fre market means that the people with pre existing conditions will see big rise in their premium, if they can even get coverage. Part of the safety gap in our system is the employer coverage. Remove that and it might be really bad.</p>
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I’m sure that I missed a few things, but I’ll repeat what I said above. Ending the income tax exclusion for employer-provided health insurance premiums in favor of McCain’s tax credit has nothing to do with socialism.<br />
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BuckeyeSam on October 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ll repeat what I say. His plan will increase taxes for some while reducing it for others. The same could be said about Obama&#8217;s tax plan. Let me quote McCain on this topic:</p>
<blockquote><p>MCCAIN: Actually, my position is that it will be, it will give people actually more money to go out and purchase tax &#8211; health insurance on their own and only those with the Cadillac gold-plated health insurance policies today are the ones who might suffer from it. The ones -</p>
<p>STEPHANOPOULOS: So they would see their taxes go up potentially. </p>
<p>MCCAIN: It depends on, on, on what plan they have. But that’s usually the wealthiest people. Ordinary working Americans have the kind of &#8211; or an overwhelming majority have the health insurance plans that this tax credit, refundable tax credit, will actually put more money in their pockets for the purchase of health care than what they had before.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mojave Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojave Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...You never know...

But we can hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;You never know&#8230;</p>
<p>But we can hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul-Cincy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul-Cincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;PackerBronco on October 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM
In general I have found Republican candidates to be much more at ease with losing elections. Not that they want to lose mind you, but they are not obssessed with winning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely. To Bill Clinton, losing an election was like dying. For GW, if he lost, he&#039;d find something else to do. For Dem prez candidates, it&#039;s all about them. For Repub candidates, it&#039;s not all about them. They will survive the loss of their dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>PackerBronco on October 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM<br />
In general I have found Republican candidates to be much more at ease with losing elections. Not that they want to lose mind you, but they are not obssessed with winning.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. To Bill Clinton, losing an election was like dying. For GW, if he lost, he&#8217;d find something else to do. For Dem prez candidates, it&#8217;s all about them. For Repub candidates, it&#8217;s not all about them. They will survive the loss of their dream.</p>
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		<title>By: KentAllard</title>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    Kudos to Edwards for having two beautiful families. Most people barely manage to have one that lasts for their whole lifetime…

    mycowardice on October 20, 2008 at 12:46 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So if two is better than one, how about three? Better still? Four? Ten? He is very rich so maybe he should go for ten. He might even be able to spend a few hours a year with each of his kids if it did not inconvenience him too much of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    Kudos to Edwards for having two beautiful families. Most people barely manage to have one that lasts for their whole lifetime…</p>
<p>    mycowardice on October 20, 2008 at 12:46 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>So if two is better than one, how about three? Better still? Four? Ten? He is very rich so maybe he should go for ten. He might even be able to spend a few hours a year with each of his kids if it did not inconvenience him too much of course.</p>
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