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It’s moments like this when I really do admire and feel affection for Senator McCain. The man has perspective, inner peace, and wisdom. For all my disagreements with him I really do look up to that man. For the sake of the nation I pray he wins.
The press has lied to us about everything there is to lie about re Obama (and yes, a lie by omission is still a lie, as is spinning the truth.) Since they’ve lied to us about everything else, what would stop them from lying about the polls as well?
When McCain speaks directly, from the heart, it amazes me that anyone could prefer a grasping, inexperienced, sleazy hustler like Osama Obama.
We have a golden opportunity to elect a good man to the presidency, along with a woman who will give the vice-presidency the respect and honor it deserves.
Since they’ve lied to us about everything else, what would stop them from lying about the polls as well?
JustTruth101 on October 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM
We do have Zogby, Rasmussen, IBD/TIPP, Gallup and SUSA.
We have a golden opportunity to elect a good man to the presidency, along with a woman who will give the vice-presidency the respect and honor it deserves.
Sometimes, like this interview and the pick of Gov. Palin, I think John McCain isn’t such a bad pick for our party’s nominee. Though there were others in the primaries who I would have preferred.
That said, excellent interview Senator, and best of luck in two weeks.
What happened to the Democratic Party? Just a few generations ago, the party of Franklin Roosevelt went to bat for the little guy, the common man, the everyday Joe the plumber.
Not anymore. Now, the wealthy elites who run the Democratic Party have declared war on working-class Americans while pretending to defend them against greedy and heartless Republicans.
Those would be the same Republicans whose vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, doesn’t just talk about working-class people but actually embodies one and yet has been savaged by liberals.
And those would be the same Republicans who have devised a tax plan that might just appeal to “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher, the Ohio resident who dared to confront Barack Obama over the unfairness of his tax plan.
In a candid moment that could well lose him some votes, Obama acknowledged to Wurzelbacher that he intended, if elected president, to take the wealth of those making more than 250,000 per year and “spread it around” to others making less. That wasn’t very smart, and the Obama campaign knows it.
So they’re trying to change the subject by making Joe the Plumber the issue. They’re doing so, with a little help from their friends in the news media and labor unions, by digging into Joe’s background in search of something embarrassing. Already, the pro-Obama forces have found that Joe Wurzelbacher owes back taxes, doesn’t have a plumbing license, and may not be registered to vote. And there may be more to come.
That will teach Joe to keep quiet. Let’s hope the country learns a lesson as well – about what the Democratic Party used to be and what it has become.
- San Diego Union Tribune
Yeah, that was a very good performance from our guy. As a formerly harsh John McCain critic – during the primaries – I almost feel embarrassed now for not liking him, and for all the nasty things I said about him.
This little Fox News snippet showed him to be very warm, and even endearing.
You claim to be Canadian, Drywall, but when asked a question recently you had no specific information–and don seem upset at the PCs putting together a larger majority with the BQ.
Yet for a Canuck, you seem rabidly interesting in American politics
Keep fighting and more jokes. The Al Smith dinner speech by McCain was just amazing. Funny and scathing to Barack Obama, it had even MSM types clapping (till they realized the cameras were on them).
Sen. McCain’s a good man — this election has made it obvious that there are two candidates running two very different campaigns: the sly, smooth talker vs. the genuine, sincere public servant.
That was great. I love how he defended Palin, but he also has put things into perspective. Win or lose, the luckiest person he’ll ever interview, and blessed. That’s awesome…and, it stands in such stark contrast to the Obamas bitterness.
Good lord! An Obama presidency will be catastrophic. Turncoat Powell; idiot Hagel; scumbag Kerry; elitist Clark, etc., etc., and the list goes on. And don’t forget his congressional supporters Pelosi, Reid Kennedy, Dodd, and Schumer just to mention a few. And of course all will do the biding of lord Soros. This could well be the fatal end of a once great Republic.
How sad.
Does America see the direction the big zero want to take this great nation?
Socialism. Do big zero supporters understand what socialism is?
I think not. Furthermore, I don’t want to relive that.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Yeah, we understand socialism is McCain deciding to TAX health care benefits provided by employers because he wants to spread the tax credit around to others. We understand that socialism is the type of plan McCain just signed up for, i.e. the bailout.
At least the good news is that if Barack Obama is elected, he will have a mandate to be the biggest communist on earth, thanks to the right wing spreading this message.
Typical voter: I want to be part of history, electing the 1st black man as POTUS. Feel the healing this will afford America, feel the goodwill this will buy from to the rest of the world after Bush.
You morons! This is not TV or the Web where if you don’t like the show or site you can change the channel or checkout to mindless YOUTUBE crap. Wake up and take responsibility for your actions/choices.
For all you GenX pukes that would rather suck at the tit of success than work for your own..don’t dare show your face at my house looking for donations to anything, I’ll open the door halfway and then slam it on your fingers and as you recoil in pain I’ll kick you in what little sack you have and then take your wallet. If you come back I’ll drop you on the walkway…got it, any questions? Welcome to the new world order according to The Messiah!
I hope Sen. McCain wins in two weeks. America really can’t afford to have an inexperienced socialist in the White House with a rabidly left-wing party in control of the Congress. In this case, divided government isn’t merely a good thing – it’s an absolute necessity.
In general I have found Republican candidates to be much more at ease with losing elections. Not that they want to lose mind you, but they are not obssessed with winning. I think if Reagan had lost in 1980, he would have said “aw, shucks” and went back to the ranch to live a very happy life. I think W would have responded in the same way. It’s the Dems that (to my eyes) go off the deep end. I think it has something to do with what you value and where you find meaning.
Democrats, since they by-and-large, believe in the power of the state to reform society and bring us closer to Utopia, see the loss of an election almost like the Gates of Heaven being shut before them as they are banished from paradise. Republicans, by-and-large, don’t subscribe to this view of government and this view of politics. They have their treasure stored elsewhere.
Of course they are exceptions. Nixon was a supremely political animal and election losses were devastating to him. I think someone like Lieberman on the other hand, is a bit sanguine about it.
After all that McCain has been through, I think he’ll have a sense of perspective on it. Obama on the other hand, whose whole life has been politics, will feel a deep sense of betrayal from the country and its citizens.
What I have said to my friends after every national election since 1994 is “It’s a Great Day to be an American.” In 1994 I meant it to express my joy at the triumph of the Republicans, but as I thought about it, I realized that I should express that feeling everytime – and I have. Democracy is such an amazing thing, we should never lose sight of the great gift we have been given and win-or-lose in a few weeks, it will still be a great day to be an American.
Yes, he has bought the democratic party and is trying to buy the presidency.
Can you imagine if there was ONE reporter with the resources of a major media organization with any curiosity whatsoever about Obama? Watergate good look like child’s play.
1. We admitted we were powerless over the one—that our lives had become unmanageable without the one.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. The one.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of the one as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves for the one.
5. Admitted to the one, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have the one remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked the one to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all and the one.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others and the one.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it and to the one.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with the one as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His Will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Obamaholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
I’ve been following this story pretty closely, (even listened to Jack Cashill on the Mike Medved show the other day), and still had my doubts about it.
I’m not smart enough to know all the nuances of the claims, but I am pretty good at smelling a rat in the room. There’s a big one around.
Do you think the “undecideds” will hear about it or care?
You claim to be Canadian, Drywall, but when asked a question recently you had no specific information–and don seem upset at the PCs putting together a larger majority with the BQ.
Yet for a Canuck, you seem rabidly interesting in American politics
Confused about your nationality, troll?
Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
————
Providing a link that disproves someone’s wild assertion that Kerry was ahead by ten isn’t trolling.
John Zogby predicted a Kerry win the night before the election. 16 days out from the election, Republicans were reportedly conceding that Kerry had won the debates and a WaPo poll found Kerry leading by 10 in 13 key swing states. According to Salon, newsroom were briefed by pollsters to expect a Kerry victory with 300+ EVs and Blair was going to bed expecting a President Kerry. Exit poll showed Kerry doing very well.
Palin is the only reason why I will vote for McCain.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I dunno…Believe me, I know how many HA’ers didn’t, and some still don’t, really like McCain. But I always had the impression that y’all would come around and support him (vote) when the general election kicked in. I think both parties spent far too much time in argument within their own ranks. The GOP had the McCain vs. Mitt fights. The Dems had their Hillary vs. Obama fights. It took longer than expected to finally go after the other party.
This is great. How he says he’s the luckiest man on Earth, after being what he’s been through, shows what character this man has.
During the primaries, I didn’t like McCain: I was for Fred, voted for Rudy here in Florida, then I was for Romney. McCain has bags of character, resilience, and BELIEF IN THIS COUNTRY that I haven’t seen matched; especially by a presidential candidate that only sometimes puts is hand on his heart during the pledge. To some in the thread that would have liked a more pointed statement at the end than “you never know”, I think Mac was saying it in an understated, sarcastic way. The less arrogant a politician is, the more I like him, and Mac has never come off as not wanting to level with the average person.
Yet for a Canuck, you seem rabidly interesting in American politics
Confused about your nationality, troll?
Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Good question sheetrock, what IS your stake in a US election after all? World peace, save the whales…but kill the babies, guns are evil but not Islamic extremists.
Besides trying to take over every thread on this site and pull it sideways then spewing your leftist agenda?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
I did a search on you a few weeks ago, (have no fear I haven’t reported my findings to Obama HQ…yet). You’ve been a stalwart lefty plant at other sites for years. I cached my findings in case they disappear for safe keeping.
McCain said it himself, Palin is the best thing that has happened to this campaign! She and Joe the Plummer may win it in spite of him.
She is far more articulate than John McCain as was Joe the Plumber on Huckleberrys’ show.
Normal hard working Americans (formally the Democrat constituency) can relate to them and hate what the media and 0B0mber/Biden have tried to do to them.
I would have still held my nose and voted for McCain anyway only because he is the GOP ticket. And the alternative is much too unpalatable to consider.
Which makes the GOP a bunch of SAPS. Either way… we’re all screwed.
Palin is a true conservative whereas McCain is a RINO.
Which delights me in knowing she’s just one heartbeat away.
No you’re not. It’s how you guys roll. I thought you were getting a little arrogant with me even though I went way out of my way and stayed up late to answer all those questions for you about how few liberals there are in the military. If you’re going to end up like a real obnoxious troll, then I’m really sorry I bother to help you.
Yeah, we understand socialism is McCain deciding to TAX health care benefits provided by employers because he wants to spread the tax credit around to others. We understand that socialism is the type of plan McCain just signed up for, i.e. the bailout.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Spare us the tedious and vicious analogies. You’d be better off spending your time figuring out how Obama claims everyone who likes their health insurance can keep it when he’s proposing a “play or pay” system and hiding the ball on the “pay” rate. You can keep your existing employer-provided coverage if your employer elects to continue providing it, and not otherwise. Some employers will choose to “pay” rather than “play” (get it? these are the employer’s choices) and their employees will wind up in the “public option” like it or not.
Either Obama doesn’t understand his own plan (a probability bounded away from zero) or he knows he won’t get called on the obvious inconsistency in his categorical statement. An inconsistency I’m sure eluded you up to this very moment.
How is that related to McCain’s plan? Obama’s plan can be very socialist, but it doesn’t mean McCain’s isn’t. Why would McCain decide to start taxing health insurance provided by employer? He is doing his own redistribution. He takes from one hand to give back to others. Isn’t this the dreaded socialism everyone keeps talking about?
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched John McCain and wanted to hear him speak specifically, go much further than “my friends” and the I’ve saved billions and I’ve fought for this or that meme, articulate the contrast in a finer, deeper, saturated, resolution.
I honestly believe that’s the difference influencing voters to go for Obama.
Si. He should have picked his very best amigo Lindsey Graham.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Ahh, the memories…of McCain-amnesty derangement…He should have picked Charlie Crist. But alas, there was probably a good reason why he didn’t. I’ll have to accept it. Again, nothing against Sarah Palin…but she’s the risk that hasn’t paid off.
I would have still held my nose and voted for McCain anyway only because he is the GOP ticket. And the alternative is much too unpalatable to consider.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 11:12 PM
See, that’s what I thought. I still don’t quite understand what my fellow conservatives don’t see in John McCain. He’s not the RINO you make him out to be.
Yeah GD but he’s real nice and civil when he’s asking for something from you. I went way out of my way and stayed up late on a work night because he asked me a bunch of questions about liberals in the military. He’s all nice and then goes for the throat it would seem. Not a very nice person. I just feel used by him.
Palin was a gutsy choice; the only choice in my opinion.
Any of McCain’s choices would have been smeared mercilessly, so pick your poison.
He went with a true outsider and one who’s crowds are reflecting the growing frustration and anger at the professional political class.
Palin will become more of a symbol when, as surely they will, the Democratic Congress works it’s magic on our economy brings us back to the glory years of skyward spiraling inflation and interest rates.
Yeah GD but he’s real nice and civil when he’s asking for something from you. I went way out of my way and stayed up late on a work night because he asked me a bunch of questions about liberals in the military. He’s all nice and then goes for the throat it would seem. Not a very nice person. I just feel used by him.
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
That is really unfair. Plus, with the ‘I just feel used by him’, you start to sound like a liberal :).
See, that’s what I thought. I still don’t quite understand what my fellow conservatives don’t see in John McCain. He’s not the RINO you make him out to be.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
I’m still not up on all of his plans, but I’ve learned a new and very real respect for him after his speech at the convention and his poise humility and grace during the campaign. I think you’re wrong about Palin though. I like her leadership.
I can honestly say that the BEST thing that can happen IF (and its still a big if) Obama gets elected and the dems get congress is that the democrats are basically political cowards.
If the economy stays south after Obama takes over and the public gets restless look for Pelosi and the rest to abandon Obama within 6 months. Pelosi can just as easily point fingers at Obama as at Bush.
One thing the democrats have proven is that they cant govern. Earmarks can only get you so far and universal healthcare is overblown and no american will give 2 craps about global warming if unemployment continues to rise.
Would be great political irony if the dems loose the 2010 elections in congress and the new GOP congress investigates the 2008 election and impeaches Obama for fraud.
So the rally cry if we lose in 2008 is to go all out in 2010.
See, that’s what I thought. I still don’t quite understand what my fellow conservatives don’t see in John McCain. He’s not the RINO you make him out to be.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
The same reason I voted for Bush in 2000.
Bush is a Rebublican. But he was never a conservative.
McCain is not a conservative either.
See, that’s what I thought. I still don’t quite understand what my fellow conservatives don’t see in John McCain. He’s not the RINO you make him out to be.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
The reasons never change :)
McCain-Feingold. McCain-Kennedy. Those are the two most prominent reasons.
But we don’t have to like him to think he’s better then BO and to put the leg work in to get him to the top.
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Ya never know !!!
(4 years ago, Kerry led Bush 50 to 40%)
stenwin77 on October 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Weep for the nation though.
OneGyT on October 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM
John seems very calm and at peace.
carbon_footprint on October 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Well said.
JustTruth101 on October 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM
We must win…
IR-MN on October 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Yup. You never know…
unclesmrgol on October 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM
It’s moments like this when I really do admire and feel affection for Senator McCain. The man has perspective, inner peace, and wisdom. For all my disagreements with him I really do look up to that man. For the sake of the nation I pray he wins.
D0WNT0WN on October 19, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Sarah Palin, executive experience as both a mayor and governor.
Barack Obama, none.
Who’s less qualified to be Veep, even.
Obama.
President is way above his pay grade.
profitsbeard on October 19, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Great confidence.
Good night, John Boy.
JeffinOrlando on October 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM
McCain. November 4. For the win. That’s all you need to know.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Well done, Senator.
progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM
The press has lied to us about everything there is to lie about re Obama (and yes, a lie by omission is still a lie, as is spinning the truth.) Since they’ve lied to us about everything else, what would stop them from lying about the polls as well?
JustTruth101 on October 19, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I won’t feel sorry for Sen. McCain, but I’ll cry a little for the nation.
BadgerHawk on October 19, 2008 at 10:12 PM
When McCain speaks directly, from the heart, it amazes me that anyone could prefer a grasping, inexperienced, sleazy hustler like Osama Obama.
We have a golden opportunity to elect a good man to the presidency, along with a woman who will give the vice-presidency the respect and honor it deserves.
There is no other choice.
MrScribbler on October 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Feel sorry for the American people…
Except for demorats
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Test shows Ayers penned Obama’s ‘Dreams’
TheBigOldDog on October 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Doesn’t he seem a little too resigned?
Dead Hand Control on October 19, 2008 at 10:14 PM
(4 years ago, Kerry led Bush 50 to 40%)
stenwin77 on October 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM
——————-
Uh, no. You’re completely wrong.
Kerry was behind from the last week of August onwards.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/chart3way.html
Next.
Dave Rywall on October 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
….and what’s to stop them from lying about the vote?
cthulhu on October 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
We do have Zogby, Rasmussen, IBD/TIPP, Gallup and SUSA.
+1
IR-MN on October 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
What does he know that we don’t? He seemed rather confident to me. ;-)
SouthernGent on October 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Sometimes, like this interview and the pick of Gov. Palin, I think John McCain isn’t such a bad pick for our party’s nominee. Though there were others in the primaries who I would have preferred.
That said, excellent interview Senator, and best of luck in two weeks.
Troy Rasmussen on October 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Well at least we know who he is.
d1carter on October 19, 2008 at 10:17 PM
The bigger question is…
Does America see the direction the big zero want to take this great nation?
Socialism. Do big zero supporters understand what socialism is?
I think not. Furthermore, I don’t want to relive that.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Doesn’t he seem a little too resigned?
Dead Hand Control on October 19, 2008 at
Not at all. He’s at peace with himself and his life.
swami on October 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Almost ecpecting it.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
What happened to the Democratic Party? Just a few generations ago, the party of Franklin Roosevelt went to bat for the little guy, the common man, the everyday Joe the plumber.
Not anymore. Now, the wealthy elites who run the Democratic Party have declared war on working-class Americans while pretending to defend them against greedy and heartless Republicans.
Those would be the same Republicans whose vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, doesn’t just talk about working-class people but actually embodies one and yet has been savaged by liberals.
And those would be the same Republicans who have devised a tax plan that might just appeal to “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher, the Ohio resident who dared to confront Barack Obama over the unfairness of his tax plan.
In a candid moment that could well lose him some votes, Obama acknowledged to Wurzelbacher that he intended, if elected president, to take the wealth of those making more than 250,000 per year and “spread it around” to others making less. That wasn’t very smart, and the Obama campaign knows it.
So they’re trying to change the subject by making Joe the Plumber the issue. They’re doing so, with a little help from their friends in the news media and labor unions, by digging into Joe’s background in search of something embarrassing. Already, the pro-Obama forces have found that Joe Wurzelbacher owes back taxes, doesn’t have a plumbing license, and may not be registered to vote. And there may be more to come.
That will teach Joe to keep quiet. Let’s hope the country learns a lesson as well – about what the Democratic Party used to be and what it has become.
- San Diego Union Tribune
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Yeah, that was a very good performance from our guy. As a formerly harsh John McCain critic – during the primaries – I almost feel embarrassed now for not liking him, and for all the nasty things I said about him.
This little Fox News snippet showed him to be very warm, and even endearing.
ericdondero on October 19, 2008 at 10:20 PM
George Soros
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Never give up! Especially to dishonesty – and much media dishonesty as well.
Travis1 on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
You claim to be Canadian, Drywall, but when asked a question recently you had no specific information–and don seem upset at the PCs putting together a larger majority with the BQ.
Yet for a Canuck, you seem rabidly interesting in American politics
Confused about your nationality, troll?
Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Keep fighting and more jokes. The Al Smith dinner speech by McCain was just amazing. Funny and scathing to Barack Obama, it had even MSM types clapping (till they realized the cameras were on them).
Mr. Joe on October 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Sen. McCain’s a good man — this election has made it obvious that there are two candidates running two very different campaigns: the sly, smooth talker vs. the genuine, sincere public servant.
Richard Romano on October 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM
He’s a politician. Politicians are programmed to smile and tell you everything’s ok even if there was a nuke going off in the background.
Darth Executor on October 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Also Sarah Palin and family.
You know, I never liked McCain… but this is ridicules. I’m rooting for the guy with the better qualified veep than he would be for POTUS.
But this is why they hate Palin.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Let’s not get carried away now. He only looks like an eagle by comparison to a carrion crow.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM
stenwin77 on October 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I know that’s being tossed around the blogosphere, but there is the small problem presented by the fact that tt isn’t true.
DaveS on October 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM
That was great. I love how he defended Palin, but he also has put things into perspective. Win or lose, the luckiest person he’ll ever interview, and blessed. That’s awesome…and, it stands in such stark contrast to the Obamas bitterness.
changer1701 on October 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Good lord! An Obama presidency will be catastrophic. Turncoat Powell; idiot Hagel; scumbag Kerry; elitist Clark, etc., etc., and the list goes on. And don’t forget his congressional supporters Pelosi, Reid Kennedy, Dodd, and Schumer just to mention a few. And of course all will do the biding of lord Soros. This could well be the fatal end of a once great Republic.
How sad.
rplat on October 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Yeah, we understand socialism is McCain deciding to TAX health care benefits provided by employers because he wants to spread the tax credit around to others. We understand that socialism is the type of plan McCain just signed up for, i.e. the bailout.
At least the good news is that if Barack Obama is elected, he will have a mandate to be the biggest communist on earth, thanks to the right wing spreading this message.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Dave:
You are wrong. On the night before the election there were national polls with a mixture of results, among them a 3.8 lead for Kerry.
Terrye on October 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Typical voter: I want to be part of history, electing the 1st black man as POTUS. Feel the healing this will afford America, feel the goodwill this will buy from to the rest of the world after Bush.
You morons! This is not TV or the Web where if you don’t like the show or site you can change the channel or checkout to mindless YOUTUBE crap. Wake up and take responsibility for your actions/choices.
For all you GenX pukes that would rather suck at the tit of success than work for your own..don’t dare show your face at my house looking for donations to anything, I’ll open the door halfway and then slam it on your fingers and as you recoil in pain I’ll kick you in what little sack you have and then take your wallet. If you come back I’ll drop you on the walkway…got it, any questions? Welcome to the new world order according to The Messiah!
Healing we will Feel…………
dmann on October 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Ben Franklin preferred the Turkey rather than the Eagle.
But I probably would not have voted for him anyway.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM
McCain lost 5 years of his life in a POW camp, and considers himself the luckiest man in America.
Michelle Obama says this country is downright mean.
Perspectives worlds apart.
Thune on October 19, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Michelle Obama is a princess, although one with a very big ass, who can feel a pea under 40 mattresses.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Where do you get your data that around Oct 19 2004 Kerry was leading by 10 points?
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I wish he was a little more adamant than ‘you never know.’
wise_man on October 19, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I hope Sen. McCain wins in two weeks. America really can’t afford to have an inexperienced socialist in the White House with a rabidly left-wing party in control of the Congress. In this case, divided government isn’t merely a good thing – it’s an absolute necessity.
Jill1066 on October 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Very well done.
wise_man on October 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM
In general I have found Republican candidates to be much more at ease with losing elections. Not that they want to lose mind you, but they are not obssessed with winning. I think if Reagan had lost in 1980, he would have said “aw, shucks” and went back to the ranch to live a very happy life. I think W would have responded in the same way. It’s the Dems that (to my eyes) go off the deep end. I think it has something to do with what you value and where you find meaning.
Democrats, since they by-and-large, believe in the power of the state to reform society and bring us closer to Utopia, see the loss of an election almost like the Gates of Heaven being shut before them as they are banished from paradise. Republicans, by-and-large, don’t subscribe to this view of government and this view of politics. They have their treasure stored elsewhere.
Of course they are exceptions. Nixon was a supremely political animal and election losses were devastating to him. I think someone like Lieberman on the other hand, is a bit sanguine about it.
After all that McCain has been through, I think he’ll have a sense of perspective on it. Obama on the other hand, whose whole life has been politics, will feel a deep sense of betrayal from the country and its citizens.
What I have said to my friends after every national election since 1994 is “It’s a Great Day to be an American.” In 1994 I meant it to express my joy at the triumph of the Republicans, but as I thought about it, I realized that I should express that feeling everytime – and I have. Democracy is such an amazing thing, we should never lose sight of the great gift we have been given and win-or-lose in a few weeks, it will still be a great day to be an American.
PackerBronco on October 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Yes, he has bought the democratic party and is trying to buy the presidency.
Can you imagine if there was ONE reporter with the resources of a major media organization with any curiosity whatsoever about Obama? Watergate good look like child’s play.
neuquenguy on October 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Thanks for the tip OldDoggie.
I’ve been following this story pretty closely, (even listened to Jack Cashill on the Mike Medved show the other day), and still had my doubts about it.
I’m not smart enough to know all the nuances of the claims, but I am pretty good at smelling a rat in the room. There’s a big one around.
Do you think the “undecideds” will hear about it or care?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I mean, as a total McCainiac, I gotta go with whatever the Mav says. And yes…Gov. Palin is a wonderful woman, Governor, Republican, and American.
But I do believe that yes, Palin has been a “drag” on McCain’s chances.
McCain has to win this. The alternative is unacceptable.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Who would not have been a ‘drag’ on McCain’s chances?
wise_man on October 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
You claim to be Canadian, Drywall, but when asked a question recently you had no specific information–and don seem upset at the PCs putting together a larger majority with the BQ.
Yet for a Canuck, you seem rabidly interesting in American politics
Confused about your nationality, troll?
Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
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Providing a link that disproves someone’s wild assertion that Kerry was ahead by ten isn’t trolling.
Dave Rywall on October 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
My exact thoughts.
Perfect metaphor, though I would also opine that it is better to have a big ass than to be one. /big butts r us
baldilocks on October 19, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Jetboy
I think the alternative is no only unacceptable, but disastrous, too.
the_stoics on October 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
I completely disagree. Palin is the only reason why I will vote for McCain.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
No, but proving right wingers wrong is.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
John Zogby predicted a Kerry win the night before the election. 16 days out from the election, Republicans were reportedly conceding that Kerry had won the debates and a WaPo poll found Kerry leading by 10 in 13 key swing states. According to Salon, newsroom were briefed by pollsters to expect a Kerry victory with 300+ EVs and Blair was going to bed expecting a President Kerry. Exit poll showed Kerry doing very well.
amerpundit on October 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I like the way Mac “you never know”, as if he has some positive insider info the rest of us don’t.
Bishop on October 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I dunno…Believe me, I know how many HA’ers didn’t, and some still don’t, really like McCain. But I always had the impression that y’all would come around and support him (vote) when the general election kicked in. I think both parties spent far too much time in argument within their own ranks. The GOP had the McCain vs. Mitt fights. The Dems had their Hillary vs. Obama fights. It took longer than expected to finally go after the other party.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
You are not to speak. I don’t like you.
Bishop on October 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
This is great. How he says he’s the luckiest man on Earth, after being what he’s been through, shows what character this man has.
During the primaries, I didn’t like McCain: I was for Fred, voted for Rudy here in Florida, then I was for Romney. McCain has bags of character, resilience, and BELIEF IN THIS COUNTRY that I haven’t seen matched; especially by a presidential candidate that only sometimes puts is hand on his heart during the pledge. To some in the thread that would have liked a more pointed statement at the end than “you never know”, I think Mac was saying it in an understated, sarcastic way. The less arrogant a politician is, the more I like him, and Mac has never come off as not wanting to level with the average person.
FLcapitalistthug on October 19, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Si. He should have picked his very best amigo Lindsey Graham.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Re: Palin as an anchor. Repeat it enough, I guess it’s believable.
Record-crowds. Check.
Record-fundraising. Check.
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“You never know” – that instills confidence, heh.
Spirit of 1776 on October 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Wow, Coward, you’re getting a bit rude compared to last time you were here. Are you getting a little more comfortable with your blogging on HA?
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Good question sheetrock, what IS your stake in a US election after all? World peace, save the whales…but kill the babies, guns are evil but not Islamic extremists.
Besides trying to take over every thread on this site and pull it sideways then spewing your leftist agenda?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
I did a search on you a few weeks ago, (have no fear I haven’t reported my findings to Obama HQ…yet). You’ve been a stalwart lefty plant at other sites for years. I cached my findings in case they disappear for safe keeping.
Your secret is OUT schmuck.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 11:08 PM
McCain said it himself, Palin is the best thing that has happened to this campaign! She and Joe the Plummer may win it in spite of him.
She is far more articulate than John McCain as was Joe the Plumber on Huckleberrys’ show.
Normal hard working Americans (formally the Democrat constituency) can relate to them and hate what the media and 0B0mber/Biden have tried to do to them.
dhunter on October 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I also took the opportunity to scan his hard drive. Dude, some of those girls are young.
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I would have still held my nose and voted for McCain anyway only because he is the GOP ticket. And the alternative is much too unpalatable to consider.
Which makes the GOP a bunch of SAPS. Either way… we’re all screwed.
Palin is a true conservative whereas McCain is a RINO.
Which delights me in knowing she’s just one heartbeat away.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I feel emboldened by the constant comments made by people that dissenting with information here is considered trolling.
Sorry for the lack of civility.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Sarcasim will get you nowhere.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Ya think Flyboy?
Ha.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 11:14 PM
No you’re not. It’s how you guys roll. I thought you were getting a little arrogant with me even though I went way out of my way and stayed up late to answer all those questions for you about how few liberals there are in the military. If you’re going to end up like a real obnoxious troll, then I’m really sorry I bother to help you.
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Spare us the tedious and vicious analogies. You’d be better off spending your time figuring out how Obama claims everyone who likes their health insurance can keep it when he’s proposing a “play or pay” system and hiding the ball on the “pay” rate. You can keep your existing employer-provided coverage if your employer elects to continue providing it, and not otherwise. Some employers will choose to “pay” rather than “play” (get it? these are the employer’s choices) and their employees will wind up in the “public option” like it or not.
Either Obama doesn’t understand his own plan (a probability bounded away from zero) or he knows he won’t get called on the obvious inconsistency in his categorical statement. An inconsistency I’m sure eluded you up to this very moment.
DrSteve on October 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
MB4, nice interjection of Spanish there. You seem very intelligent!
FLcapitalistthug on October 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Don’t be too hasty. Come November 4, 2008 nowhere may look pretty good.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
;-)
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Which makes an Obama presidency even scarier
William Amos on October 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM
McCain’s plan isn’t how I would have done it, but it’s completely unserious to call it socialistic.
DrSteve on October 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM
C’est la vie.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM
How is that related to McCain’s plan? Obama’s plan can be very socialist, but it doesn’t mean McCain’s isn’t. Why would McCain decide to start taxing health insurance provided by employer? He is doing his own redistribution. He takes from one hand to give back to others. Isn’t this the dreaded socialism everyone keeps talking about?
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I don’t know how many times I’ve watched John McCain and wanted to hear him speak specifically, go much further than “my friends” and the I’ve saved billions and I’ve fought for this or that meme, articulate the contrast in a finer, deeper, saturated, resolution.
I honestly believe that’s the difference influencing voters to go for Obama.
Speakup on October 19, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I embrace decent. It IS the American way of life. (unlike the attemtps to shut down any disagreement that the loons on the left try to do).
But, taking over a tread with stupid, useless, lies and false info strictly for attention, is by definition what an internet troll is.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 11:21 PM
The facts that were provided were true. At this time 4 years ago, Bush was beating Keary.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Ahh, the memories…of McCain-amnesty derangement…He should have picked Charlie Crist. But alas, there was probably a good reason why he didn’t. I’ll have to accept it. Again, nothing against Sarah Palin…but she’s the risk that hasn’t paid off.
See, that’s what I thought. I still don’t quite understand what my fellow conservatives don’t see in John McCain. He’s not the RINO you make him out to be.
JetBoy on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Yeah GD but he’s real nice and civil when he’s asking for something from you. I went way out of my way and stayed up late on a work night because he asked me a bunch of questions about liberals in the military. He’s all nice and then goes for the throat it would seem. Not a very nice person. I just feel used by him.
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Palin was a gutsy choice; the only choice in my opinion.
Any of McCain’s choices would have been smeared mercilessly, so pick your poison.
He went with a true outsider and one who’s crowds are reflecting the growing frustration and anger at the professional political class.
Palin will become more of a symbol when, as surely they will, the Democratic Congress works it’s magic on our economy brings us back to the glory years of skyward spiraling inflation and interest rates.
mylegsareswollen on October 19, 2008 at 11:25 PM
That is really unfair. Plus, with the ‘I just feel used by him’, you start to sound like a liberal :).
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
He’s as bad if not worse than Obama. To them. Try to figure that one out.
wise_man on October 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I’m still not up on all of his plans, but I’ve learned a new and very real respect for him after his speech at the convention and his poise humility and grace during the campaign. I think you’re wrong about Palin though. I like her leadership.
hawkdriver on October 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I can honestly say that the BEST thing that can happen IF (and its still a big if) Obama gets elected and the dems get congress is that the democrats are basically political cowards.
If the economy stays south after Obama takes over and the public gets restless look for Pelosi and the rest to abandon Obama within 6 months. Pelosi can just as easily point fingers at Obama as at Bush.
One thing the democrats have proven is that they cant govern. Earmarks can only get you so far and universal healthcare is overblown and no american will give 2 craps about global warming if unemployment continues to rise.
Would be great political irony if the dems loose the 2010 elections in congress and the new GOP congress investigates the 2008 election and impeaches Obama for fraud.
So the rally cry if we lose in 2008 is to go all out in 2010.
William Amos on October 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
The same reason I voted for Bush in 2000.
Bush is a Rebublican. But he was never a conservative.
McCain is not a conservative either.
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I feel your pain FlyBoy, I was married to someone like that for 7 years. It sucks the life out of you and makes you not want to help anybody again.
Fly above the clouds my brother.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Smack him FlyBoy!
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
The reasons never change :)
McCain-Feingold. McCain-Kennedy. Those are the two most prominent reasons.
But we don’t have to like him to think he’s better then BO and to put the leg work in to get him to the top.
Spirit of 1776 on October 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
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