Poll: 64% of Democrats view Joe the Plumber unfavorably
posted at 7:00 pm on October 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via JWF. Anyone surprised? He supports the mission in Iraq, he asks Obama uncomfortable questions, and he doesn’t even go by his first name. What’s not to hate?
Note the demographic crosstabs, too. 63 percent of Americans under 30 agree with The One about spreading the wealth? Game over, man.
Here’s his sitdown this morning on Fox & Friends, which I think you’ll find more edifying than the Huckabee window dressing. Note how he mentions in passing that his company’s been shut down. Exit question: If Democrats dislike him so much, why is The One trying so hard to coopt his brand?
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I find this amusing. Young people are wanting the wealth spread because they know that, short of dealing drugs, they can’t get enough scratch nowadays to buy a home. Hence, they think that the only way they can get that scratch is to take it away from someone else.
And why can’t they buy a home? Could it be that previous incarnations of spreading the wealth have worked against them?
When you are competing against people who have the purchasing power of the state behind them (those 0% down folk), you are not going to win. So you look for ways of getting the purchasing power of the state behind you.
That said, Joe was awesome. He’s handling this well. But I wonder why his business is “shut down”? That sounds like some officials in Ohio have used the power of the state against him. And he’s right — Obama is trying to use him just to get a bit further. What is it with Obama and ex-service guys? Powell better be careful, once his usefulness is finished.
unclesmrgol on October 19, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I have noticed that the only form of thought liberals can muster is projection.
neuquenguy on October 19, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Wrenching?
Yeah, this is why he gets paid the big bucks.
Talent on loan from, er, the Big Bang?
SteveMG on October 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
McCain’s election this year and Palin’s aascendancy in 2012 and 2016 will halt the slide – temporarily. Unfortunately, we are past the point of ever recovering what we once had. Our decline into socialism, then fascism and then our division into two nations is inevitable.
History tells us as much.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
I think it’s funny that Barry is absolutely counting on young voters for the win.
SouthernGent on October 19, 2008 at 8:32 PM
64% of world leaders are waiting for Oslime-a to voluntarily cut the balls off of America so they can gain the dominance that Bush has denied them for 8 years. These are the people who Oslime-a wants to appease because they say mean and hurtful things about America.
The frappin fool is going to fall for the same scam from them that he is perpetrating on America. Oslime-a is just like every other slime bag who doesn’t want to earn their way. They want to take over the stability that conservatism has created and inject their socialism into it and expect it to be as strong as it was when they took it over. This is much like the wanting eye that La Raza has on the southwestern US. They see all the wealth and industry and want to take it for themselves. What we know and they are ignorant of is that what the La Raza mindset has done for Mexico, it will do to the southwest if it ever got it’s hands on it.
That is the mentality of the socialist and it is a loser mentality.
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Why don’t we just pre-empt then and divide right now, without a war (maybe).
JonPrichard on October 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Division will come when the time is right and the aggrieved states can lay claim to the moral high-ground when they declare independence – just as our forefathers did over 200 years ago. For now, we work within the system and do what we can to preserve domestic tranquility.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 8:37 PM
ROTFL! This is the quote of the day.
Right_of_Attila on October 19, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Yeah, mainly because most people under the age of 30 are still spending mom and dad’s money!
anniekc on October 19, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Certainly possible. If Obama wins and the democrats hold congress then I suspect that the soros socialists will lock into socialism over the next 8 years.
Once this happens they will not easily allow any state independce or seperation from “the one socialist state of america”.
allrsn on October 19, 2008 at 8:46 PM
What good is a “net tax cut” when your employer may have to let you go due to higher taxes? What good is “universal healthcare” when most single young people choose not to enroll in it since they would rather spend their money on new clothes, shoes, or going out? What good is an “affordable college education” when there aren’t any jobs when you graduate due to higher taxes?
eigafan on October 19, 2008 at 8:46 PM
A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.
All of us are born with a liberals heart. Fortunately some of us are also born with a brain and know how the world really works.
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Needs repeating–JTP is McCain’s October surprise, inadvertant though it was.
JTP is going to show Obama a graphic definition of unintended conaequences.
Just watch.
irongrampa on October 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Deatails, details.
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 8:49 PM
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Call the ball! The liberals will push the new definition ofequality as Oballess squells about spreading the wealth around so everyone shares in success. They all seem to forget or ignore that equality has meant the opportunity to succeed, not the results of that success, thats up to the individual not the government. With political correctness and moral relativity displacing the constitution its no wonder someone like General Colin Powell (ret) can say with a straight face that Oballess is qualified to be CIC and race has nothing to do with it. So be it, from this day forward I will be proud to be known as a racist!
dmann on October 19, 2008 at 8:54 PM
What a dumb poll in the first place. Why does this person, this private citizen, need to have his favorability ratings polled? The democrats and their media lapdogs are plumbing the depths of pathetic behaviour. And they’re not even licenced plumbers…
t.ferg on October 19, 2008 at 8:59 PM
In referance to the poll; the word ‘lap dog’ fell into my mind.
allrsn on October 19, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Joe is just fortunate that he is Joe the Plumber and not Joe the Cartoonist.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 9:07 PM
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM
I don’t know, I never went through a liberal period in my life. My dad was paralyzed when I was really young and once he got out of the hospital he busted his butt to have his own business and support us. No disability, no food stamps just plain old hard work and self reliance. And in turn he always showed others how to do the same.
Cindy Munford on October 19, 2008 at 9:09 PM
They just better hope that The One is not planning on spreading the wealth to all his disciples throughout the world as the math reverses itself for them that way.
MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 9:10 PM
When I graduated from high school and started going to college at my father’s expense, I had to pay rent and make decent grades. When I failed in the latter, I was told to serve my country and learn a good job skill. I can’t imagine spending my father’s money at age 30. At age 30 I was living in W. Germany launching USAF F-15C Eagles on air defense missions for NATO.
eigafan on October 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Just another small step in Dear Leader’s ultimate goal of never being questioned about anything.
He is going to be such an arrogant buffoon if elected. Bush might have been a little simple at times, but at least he was a nice guy.
anniekc on October 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM
They will when they try to forcibly re-incorporate the independent states back into the socialist union. Nothing like a well armed citizenry and a sympathetic national guard militia to give them second thoughts.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Count me among the surprised. I would have thought it would have been north of 75%.
EconomicNeocon on October 19, 2008 at 9:15 PM
If you take 64% of the 40% who vote Democrat you get 25.6% who actually don’t like Joe.
The headline is misleading.
pocomoco on October 19, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Allah hates you this I know
For the Koran tells me so
Infidels Christians and Jews we bomb
They are weak but we are strong
Yes Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you,
The Koran tells me so.
Allah hates you, you will die
Blow your ass up to the sky
Say the salat, chop off head,
Eat falafel, go to bed.
Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you! Yes, Allah hates you!
The Koran tells me so.
Aleph on October 19, 2008 at 9:21 PM
I’ve got news for the 64% of dhimmicrats who view Joe unfavorably.
HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just like the dhimmis who keep ranting that Sarah Palin wouldn’t make a good president. Helloooo! She’s not running for president for Christ sakes!!!
Sheesh, I think my blood pressure is going up.
4shoes on October 19, 2008 at 9:22 PM
This is your brain on polls,..
poll, poll, poll, poll, poll,..get the point?christene on October 19, 2008 at 9:22 PM
You are very naive. Their cats own them.
FeralCat on October 19, 2008 at 9:28 PM
No pollster has any business asking this question about a private citizen. Next they will do it to you for having a sticker on your car. I think Joe needs a good lawyer. This is voter intimidation.
Ronnie on October 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
At least the ones the neighbor’s dogs haven’t treed do.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
This is of course why they want to make guns illegal. It is also why clinton increased the police force to take out the gangs which never attempted to take out the gangs.
I expect that among the top 10 priorities are to end free speech and to collect as many weapons as possible. They will not make the attempt to end statehood and complete the socialization of america until they have solid control.
I am not yet convinced that the national guard will formally join this fight. I do expect some members will join other organizations to fight for all of our freedom.
What I beg for in my dreams is that the military chiefs will decide to join the fight for freedom. I keep thinking that they have protected freedom from socialism for years. Do you know exactly how there job is spelled out? I mean besides the pres being their commander in cheif? What are they charged with protecting? Americian dirt, or American freedom (constitutional culture). I doubt they will stand against congress to protect the constitution.
If the military joins the battle for freedom, freedom wins. Of course this timeline holds other dangers.
allrsn on October 19, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Many dangers.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I heard he also hates soy lattes. He drinks his coffee black.
JellyToast on October 19, 2008 at 9:44 PM
63% of folks under 30 think that the “spread the wealth” idea should work. Isn’t that about the age most Dems are finally thrown out by their parents? Makes sense to me that they would try to find another teat to eat at…
Spike72AFA on October 19, 2008 at 9:52 PM
90% of folks under 30 think “I’ll fly, you buy” is the best economic policy.
Ronnie on October 19, 2008 at 9:55 PM
And… why do we care what airheaded dems think? Hmmmmm?
ErinF on October 19, 2008 at 9:55 PM
allrsn on October 19, 2008 at 9:33 PM
We control a far more efficient fulcrum, one that will not spill blood, pit neighbor against neighbor nor divide urban and rural citizens, the lever of cash flow needs to be exploited to its fullest. What will Obama, Pelosi, Reid do when several million patriots refuse to pay their federal income tax?
dmann on October 19, 2008 at 10:09 PM
What in the blue F&%*… they’re giving him favorability ratings now? Is he running for office?
Lincoln on October 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
“Huckabee window dressing”?
Jim Treacher on October 19, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Now that we know that he is for some sort of welfare program, maybe the right will start disliking him…
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
His disliked because he gave the opportunity to McCain to spread falsehoods about Obama’s tax policies. It’s that simple toliver. He gave a hypothetical that doesn’t apply and will never apply to the vast majority of Americans. The situation he described is out of reach for most.
mycowardice on October 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
In Washington state most counties have mandatory vote-by-mail. You just have to mark the ballot and send it in.
And I’m betting ACORN will be more than willing to do that for you. Heck they’ll even sign it for you in case your happend to be dead, imaginary, or something.
CrazyFool on October 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Who cares what the Democrats think, besides McCain?
gstrickler on October 19, 2008 at 11:20 PM
The Democrats need to keep the entitlement train going, and to do that is going to require the military’s budget. You imagine we will be facing the military of today, but the military of 2012 is going to be a shadow of today’s military. When you think of the military of 2012 don’t think shock and awe, but think burning helicopters and military fiasco in the desert of Iran. The police force is the pivot point, and everything will depend on it, and how we deal with it.
We already have a large portion of the police force in our camp, and we will have to work to maintain and enlarge that presence. We will have to come up with a cover story that will give us political cover for our activities, since that always confused liberals, see Muslims and the Palestinian situation, but it isn’t going to happen this way.
We can never reclaim what America once was by starting with mass murder and ideological cleansing. This is the way it will happen. The system is going to collapse under it’s own weight of entitlements, and once people realize that they cannot pick peoples pockets with the ballot then we will have an electoral coup, but we can’t accomplish anything until the electorate learns that lesson. If that coup is blocked by the government, then it will be our duty to forcibly remove it, and restore our republic.
DFCtomm on October 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I, ____, do solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
pannw on October 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Ugh, why do these people hate America?
So, now they’re making robocalls from Plumber Joes on behalf of Obama. These people are so deceitful. I hate their effing party.
CP on October 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
So this means 36%, a full one-third, of Democrats view him favorably. I can live with that.
Texas Rainmaker on October 20, 2008 at 1:17 AM
What, you don’t think the billboards in video-game virtual worlds are an enormous waste of
Soros’slegitimate small donors’ money?Jim Treacher on October 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM
Democrats don’t like him because he’s not in a Union.
What babies.
Black Adam on October 20, 2008 at 2:17 AM
…will never apply to the vast majority of Americans if they continue to vote for socialism.
The situation he described is out of reach for most, who are too lazy; or too ignorant, due to their lousy public school educations to aspire to anything greater than being a low wage slave to the few that aren’t lazy and were able to get a decent education in USEFUL subjects.
LegendHasIt on October 20, 2008 at 3:05 AM
Shocka.
Benjamin9 on October 20, 2008 at 4:46 AM
Why is Obambi counting on the youth vote? Because they have been brainwashed in K-12, and college, to be good little liberals. Or at least a good portion of them have. Now Obambi wants them in government run preschool too. All the better to get them properly trained to be good slaves.
Dasher on October 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM
College students and recent graduates have always wanted their free ponies and stuff. Eventually, real like smacks most of them in the head hard enough to wake them up. As for the others, you can find them over at Kos and DU.
Physics Geek on October 20, 2008 at 8:14 AM
Why is his company shut down?
angelat0763 on October 20, 2008 at 8:25 AM
I’m sure they do view him unfavorably. He landed a major blow on Obama, one which may not be recoverable.
Vashta.Nerada on October 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Why don’t we see this rally publicized by the slimy, left wing mainstream media:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWRhZDE1ODdiYzRiMzcyMWM5NzNjMWMxMDQ1ZDRkYzI=&w=MQ==
rplat on October 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM
To be fair, Joe doesn’t help himself by making remarks like this.
chiefeditor on October 20, 2008 at 11:15 AM
ALLAHPUNDIT: He supports the mission in Iraq, he asks Obama uncomfortable questions, and he doesn’t even go by his first name. What’s not to hate?
For some of us it might have more to do with how the very first sentence out of his mouth as he voluntarily stepped into the camera glare of the national spotlight was an outright lie; “I’m getting ready to buy a company…”.
When did the right become such suckers for these characatureized gimmicks that consistantly fail to live up to their billing the moment you just scratch the surface.
Palin/Wurzelbacher in 2012!
ctvjoe on October 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Wow, your first sentence is so grammatically incorrect that I’d swear you went to an Annenburg Challenge School.
Six years ago my dad bought a business. Unfortunstely the model itself (independent retail packing and shipping) is no longer viable and he had to close it.
My mother started her own consulting and billing business around eight years ago. It is now focused mostly on medical billing, and has been growing greatly, she now employs nearly a dozen people.
We live in a decent townhouse condo and they have a large amount of debts from business loans that they are paying off.
In other words: you sir, are an idiot. Americans start and buy businesses all the time. My aunt, if fact, has her own independent optometry practice. That’s three people in my own small middle-class family. Go figure, I never realized Mr. Cowardice knew better than I.
BKennedy on October 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Yea. Age group of spoiled selfish human beings. I heard some politician make the appropriate comment that the U.S.’s poor still have cellphones. This age group doesn’t understand the meaning of go without, less is better, sacrifice for the good of the whole. Give them a dose of the REAL DEAL (as in New Deal Part Deux) they’ll be cr@pping their pants trying to get an impeachment before the 4 years is up. Nonetheless, the ‘game over’ will amount to about as long as former Pres. Jimmy Carter lasted.
Sultry Beauty on October 20, 2008 at 3:43 PM
64 percent negative … heck that’s right up there with Sarah.
Monkei on October 20, 2008 at 5:17 PM
The Obamites prefer we all just get welfare checks and sit back and do nothing. Legalize marijuana to really enhance that effect and there we go. You know its one thing when our jobs go overseas, but you wait. When the day comes that foreigners don;t want to come to America and open businesses, we’ll really be in for it. It’s all coming folks. Get your popcorn out and kick back and watch.
johnnyU on October 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM
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