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Colin Powell drops the other shoe

posted at 11:10 am on October 19, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama today on NBC’s Meet the Press.  The endorsement had been rumored for months, as Powell has made no secret of his disaffection from the Republicans since his retirement as Secretary of State. It gives Barack Obama much needed support on questions of foreign policy and military affairs in a period of time when people may question whether to trust a man with no experience at either.  But did Powell miss the window?

After months of hints and speculation, former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama this morning, a huge vote of confidence in the Illinois Democrat with just 16 days left before the November election.

“He has both style and substance,” Powell said of Obama on NBC’s “Meet the Press”. “I think he is a transformational figure.”

As we wrote on Friday, the Powell endorsement carries huge symbolic importance — not only is he a former high-ranking member of President Bush’s Cabinet but he also was the most visible face in making the case for the war against Iraq.

Powell’s endorsement complicates any attempt by John McCain and others within the Republican Party to cast Obama as naive on world affairs and unready to lead in a dangerous time. Obama now has a ready retort: “Well, Colin Powell seems to trust my judgment; that’s why he endorsed me.”

I’m not going to impugn Powell’s motives here. He served his country honorably in every task assigned to him, and he’s earned the right to participate in the political process. Unlike endorsers like Christopher Buckley, Douglas Kmiec, or Michael Smerconish, Powell has never publicly identified himself as a conservative activist. He’s mostly stayed within the military and foreign-policy realm and could easily have served as Secretary of State in a Clinton administration as much as in a Bush administration. This doesn’t represent any hypocritical apostasy, and it doesn’t come as much of a surprise, either.

However, I don’t think this will have the same impact it may have had in the summer, for two reasons. First, I think most people expected Powell to endorse Obama, and most of us expected it at the Democratic convention. Powell hasn’t hidden his disdain for his former colleagues well, especially while his closest aide Richard Armitage spent most of his time ripping them. Coming as it does now, it may impact some voters who still feel uncomfortable with Obama’s lack of experience. Otherwise, I don’t think anyone likely to be swayed by this endorsement didn’t already factor it into their thinking.

In August, Obama could have used this when he fumbled the Russo-Georgian conflict. Now, though, foreign policy has dropped to the second tier for most voters. They’re more interested in economic issues, and I think Joe the Plumber has more resonance than Colin Powell at this point in the election. Powell, who has no experience in economic issues and has never spoken out on them, simply doesn’t figure into those concerns.

Powell’s endorsement still gives Obama a boost and certainly some gravitas. Does it really change the ground in this election? I’m skeptical. McCain needs to hammer on these economic themes to make Powell’s endorsement less relevant over the last two weeks.


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duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Prodding at introspection. Don’t complain about there being so few black Republicans when the base of the Republican party makes posts like these on blogs all across the internet.

Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

You only need to read this thread to realize why there aren’t more black Republicans.

Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Personally I think the GOP will continue to lose people to the independents and Dems as the self-professed conservatives self-immolate such as they are in this thread. The Dems will become more centrist simply because a lot of Republicans are almost ready to leave the GOP for good.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Everything contrary or derogatory toward Obama is racist — NOT! Get it NOT!

In 2008, the year The ONE … LOST.

Vote McCain — Honorable and a true Patriot — for President.

AdrianS on October 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Powell was not a good Secretary of State, and he was disloyal. He knew that his Deputy Armitage was Novak’s source, but Bush and Cheney get pillioried in the press and the Republicans suffer political damage. Now, he values race over country. John McCain is a man who is supremely knowledgeable and supremely qualified to be Commander in Chief, and yet Powell endorses an inexperienced, know-nothing in Obama. Dishonorable. Powell should be laughed at when John McCain is elected President, and John McCin is going to win.

Phil Byler on October 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Nonfactor & Bradky, buying the MSM BS that Obama has already won and all republicans have lost.

I know the fix is in, but can’t we wait until the fix is verified?

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM

I know this may be a shock to you but I still plan to vote and plan to vote for McCain.
But I won’t stand by and watch the demonization of a fine American coupled with crazy talk about states seceding from the union, etc.
Some of the same posters when discussing the possibility of a McCain win assume there will be riots in the streets by black citizens. Usually followed up with preening about being armed just in case.

If you choose to associate with people who make these types of statements so be it. But I will criticize it every single time I see it.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Is Powell giving everyone the finger on his DRUDGE image?

profitsbeard on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

What’s very interesting about Obamaite commentary about the derogatory Obama remarks is that the Obamaites don’t deny or counter them with discussion or fact. The first, out of their printed Obama playbook, is the Obamaites call it racist, then complain about the freedom of expression and discussion that points out how repugnant Obama really is. These are issues the MSM knows about but will not air or print. So here it is to the dismay or Obamaites who watch carefully all of the blogs for derogatory comments — there are thousands if not millions that rightly criticize Obama.

Argue this: Quote from the Barack Obama book, Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” And this man wants to be President? I and several tens of millions of people think NOT.

AdrianS on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Is Powell giving everyone the finger on his DRUDGE image?

profitsbeard on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Good lord man grow up.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Is it too late to do a little impugning?

LibTired on October 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Some of the same posters when discussing the possibility of a McCain win assume there will be riots in the streets by black citizens.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Forgotten the OJ acquittal celebrations already have we? Or how about the riots in LA over Rodney King?

We don’t have to assume, history has taught us what to expect.

Care to step up to the betting window? Odds are 7-6

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM

I know this may be a shock to you but I still plan to vote and plan to vote for McCain.
But I won’t stand by and watch the demonization of a fine American coupled with crazy talk about states seceding from the union, etc.
Some of the same posters when discussing the possibility of a McCain win assume there will be riots in the streets by black citizens. Usually followed up with preening about being armed just in case.

If you choose to associate with people who make these types of statements so be it. But I will criticize it every single time I see it.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

I didn’t say any of that stuff. However, you didn’t comment on my view that Palin was more qualified than Obama to be president. That was a definate hole in the Colin endorsement.

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Are you listing Pres Bush? You and your father helped this man to get were he was in is military carrier.Your father coverd for him when he messed up the frist gulf was by stoping our men too quick thus we had to have a second gulf war.For years he and his toddie Armitage worked to destory you while they were at the state dep.and still you and McCain heaped praise and good feeling toward this ingrate. One.s a lib always a lib not only did he stick a knife in yours and sen. McCains back he stood there twisting it around .Remenber this Sen McCain when you reach out to these libs you may get your hand taken off!!!

thmcbb on October 19, 2008 at 4:44 PM

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM

At least you are honest about who you want to associate with. Both events were over a decade ago. Two incidents do not make a certainty or even a likely possibility.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:46 PM

I’m just wondering if Colon Powell endorsed Alan Keyes when he ran for President? If he did, then we have more than one example that he might be willing to make an endorsement based only on race.

If he didn’t, then we can probably safely assume that he is just another liberal moron who wants to get back on the plantation after the Republicans made him one of the most important people in the world.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM

SELLOUT!!!!
To the uniform of the Country he served, to the ideals of this Country and, to those whose efforts on his behalf allowed his to eventual rise to be the first black U.S. Secretary of State. This man would not have lasted 5 weeks in the Hanoi Hilton.

The man is without honor…

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Colin Powell’s gone topsy-turvy with his latest parlour game
He talks up this Obama One from night to morn
He dresses himself in a wreath of thorns as a tribute to his name
You are to think that a transformational Christ has been re-born
But the jackanapes are always runnin’ round in some disguise
What he is really up to, the devil knows

Tav on October 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:44 PM

I don’t care if she is more qualified or not. McCain is the nominee for President not Palin. Throwing Powell under the bus with charges of racism because one doesn’t agree with him is beyond the pale.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

The reason there are so few black Republicans is because, except for certain social issues, there is nothing in the Republican belief system that appeals to the black community.

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

All your comments relish the thought of a glorious revolution in which states secede from the union.

All of my comments describe the fallout of a historical probability: that the federal government of this nation will continue its leftward lurch toward socialism and, ultimately, fascism.

That you cannot see this is painfully obvious: as a liberal, you are sympathetically disposed towards bigger and more intrusive government.

Eventually the government you so deeply trust and love will become a hegemonic tyranny.

At that point, those who cherish liberty will be compelled to declare their separation from it and, if necessary, take up arms to uphold that separation. That particular political path was carefully delineated in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence – a document you really should read.

And therein lies the foundation of future strife and division: your worldview is the polar opposite of mine and the two can never be reconciled. One must eventually triumph over the other.

Fortunately for your side, we have no desire to enslave you – only to live in freedom. Fortunately for our side, you folks don’t believe in owning firearms.

Its what you disdainfully refer to as “codewords” when discussing racial matters.

If it is anyone who employs codewords for race it is liberals such as you who are, at their core, racists. You might take note that I made no comment regarding the Powell endoresement as I consider it of no consequence. His motives for doing so are his alone to know.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM

The first class black liberal/socialist former secretary of state endorsing the first class socialist black presidential candidate and getting a pass from the first class ass kissing blogger, even though he (Colin Powell) is a first class tool.

Mcguyver on October 19, 2008 at 4:54 PM

I don’t care if she is more qualified or not. McCain is the nominee for President not Palin. Throwing Powell under the bus with charges of racism because one doesn’t agree with him is beyond the pale.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

You are overboard. I didn’t throw Powell under any bus. I simply questioned his judgement. Part of his endorsement was that Palin was unqualified to be president. The obvious conclusion is that if Palin is more qualified than Obama then Obama is totally unqualified.

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Throwing Powell under the bus with charges of racism because one doesn’t agree with him is beyond the pale.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Your hysteria is getting to be quite amusing.

Tav on October 19, 2008 at 4:54 PM

The reason there are so few black Republicans is because, except for certain social issues, there is nothing in the Republican belief system that appeals to the black community. – Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

For those who can effect an escape from the liberal plantation there is much that the Republican party – specifically conservatism – has to offer. Just ask Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Michael Steel, J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas and others. For one thing, conservatives value libety and individual excellence and reject the bigotry of low expectations that liberals have for black people, whom they regard as nothing more than stupid sheep.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM

The man is without honor…

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Screw you buckwheat. Have you even served one day?
And then you use some trite phrase you got off a star trek new generation episode.
If chuckleheads like you are what is left of the GOP it needs to be allowed to dissemble.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:56 PM

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM

So… you have illusions of being one of the continental generals in your little revolution. problem is that everyone who shares your hope for this course see themselves as the top dog leading the way.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM

If McCain were 62 instead of 72, would all these liberals and RINOs stop believing he is going to die his first year in office, thus making Palin president?

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM

At least you are honest about who you want to associate with. Both events were over a decade ago. Two incidents do not make a certainty or even a likely possibility.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Pointing out facts defines who I want to associate with? Explain your logic. FTR, I like to associate with law-abiding citizens.

What does the time of the incident have to do with anything?

News Flash ….. 7-6 odds do not reflect certainty. Stay away from the ponies dude.

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM

Just ask Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Michael Steel, J.C. Watts, Clarence Thomas and others. For one thing, conservatives value libety and individual excellence and reject the bigotry of low expectations that liberals have for black people, whom they regard as nothing more than stupid sheep.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Hey General. Which of these people you mentioned have started advocating the glorious revolution?

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM

His motives for doing so are his alone to know.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Very few men are capable of self analysis. I do not believe him to be among the few.

semloh on October 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM

What does the time of the incident have to do with anything?

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM

So if I bring up the thousands of people lynched almost 100 years ago it is a reasonable point to say that is what whites still advocate? see how that logic works my foggy friend.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Screw you buckwheat.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:56 PM

And this idiot calls everyone here a racist.

You’re dismissed Bradky.

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM

Some of the same posters when discussing the possibility of a McCain win assume there will be riots in the streets by black citizens. Usually followed up with preening about being armed just in case. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

How dare we presume that rioting will occur when there is so much historical precedent for it?

As for preening about being armed, say what you will, but if a riot were to break out in my neighborhood I’d sooner have a shotgun and a .44 Magnum nearby then a phone for dialing 911.

Wouldn’t you? Or do you prefer to live in Denialworld, where nobody riots and the local constabulary is at your door in under 5 minutes and ready to die for you and yours?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM

Headline:

COLIN POWELL SAYS EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE THEIR OWN RACE.

profitsbeard on October 19, 2008 at 5:06 PM

So… you have illusions of being one of the continental generals in your little revolution. problem is that everyone who shares your hope for this course see themselves as the top dog leading the way. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM

Me? Nah. I just want to live in freedom and be left alone. If the occasion calls for it, I’ll certainly fight, but all things considered I much prefer to be part of the legislative process that makes all of it possible.

Snarky little stalinist, aren’t you?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Very few men are capable of self analysis. I do not believe him to be among the few. – semloh on October 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Irrelevant. His motives are his alone. I do not presume to know them and I really don’t care.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:09 PM

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

WHAT?

The democrats are the party that imposed poll taxes, Jim Crow laws, hosed people in Birmingham, stood in the doorways in Little Rock and Oxford. Until the Great Society started throwing gobs of free tax payer money at them, many (if not most) blacks who voted voted for Republican candidates. “The black community”, by and large, is against same sex marriage and abortion and the tax, less government intrusion in people’s lives, and the strong military policies that Republicans support benefits all Americans.

Many blacks today have allowed themselves to be poorly led by the likes of Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright and others to the point that they don’t know which people in America have helped them as a group and who really haven’t.

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM

And this idiot calls everyone here a racist.

You’re dismissed Bradky.

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM

No my reading comprehension challenged friend I have called no one a racist. There are many calling Powell a racist – that is what I take issue with.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

So if I bring up the thousands of people lynched almost 100 years ago it is a reasonable point to say that is what whites still advocate?

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Sure, if they’re on a Senate Committee trying to destroy the reputation of Clarence Thomas.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Give it up junior. Stick with planning your continental congress of Oklahoma with Manly Rash.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Hey General. Which of these people you mentioned have started advocating the glorious revolution? – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM

Thank you, Lord. He hath delivered himself into mine hands.

Walter Williams. Eat crow, buckwheat.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM

And when the Democrats rejected the racists in the 50s and 60s the Republican Party opened their arms for them. I think I see some of them in this thread.

Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Irrelevant. His motives are his alone. I do not presume to know them and I really don’t care.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:09 PM

Au contraire. By a man’s finger-nails, by his coat-sleeve, by his boots, by his trouser-knees, by the callosities of his forefinger and thumb, by his expression, by his shirt-cuff – By each of these things a man’s calling is plainly revealed. That all united should fail to enlighten the competent inquirer in any case is almost inconceivable.

semloh on October 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

General Powell Sir you said this was not about race and you Sir said that Sentor Obama was more ready to lead this country than Sentor McCain.Based on WHAT Sir? Could it be Obamas work with acorn or his years of work with Bill Ayers or maybe his 189 days of work in the U.S.Sen.before he desided to run for pres.General Powell Sir i could respect you if you said it was about race i would not agree with it but still would respect it General you Sir are not being truefull with youself or the American people.

thmcbb on October 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

No my reading comprehension challenged friend I have called no one a racist. There are many calling Powell a racist – that is what I take issue with.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

If the shoe fits he should wear it. Why don’t you go back and post on the “democratic underground” where you belong?

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

This is like shooting fish in a barrel. – fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

I know. Sort of picking on a cripple…but a really, really obnoxious cripple – like “Bubble Boy” in the Seinfeld series.

Jolly good fun.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

thanks for admitting you need divine intervention to “win a point on the internet”. You will need more than a keyboard and anonymity if you are to lead the troops fearlessly into battle.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM

I’m just wondering if Colon Powell endorsed Alan Keyes when he ran for President? If he did, then we have more than one example that he might be willing to make an endorsement based only on race.

Black racism is not exhibited in only supporting blacks, but in the nearly absolute monolithicism of their opinions and votes. There are occassions where the object of this nearly monolithic support is black, as in the case of BHO, but that is not the main issue.

If he didn’t, then we can probably safely assume that he is just another liberal moron who wants to get back on the plantation after the Republicans made him one of the most important people in the world.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM

I would say that this is accurate, though it is not just the liberal plantation he wants to get back to, but to return to the fold of black opinion, specifically.

progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM

semloh on October 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Knock yourself out, Sherlock. I don’t presume to be able to read what is in another man’s heart.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM

No my reading comprehension challenged friend I have called no one a racist.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Throwing Powell under the bus with charges of racism because one doesn’t agree with him is beyond the pale. Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM

I think I see some of them in this thread.

Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Have you always had such visions or is this a recent occurrence? Please give me a list of all the medications that you are currently on and perhaps I can recommend some much needed modifications to your current drug regimen.

Sigmund on October 19, 2008 at 5:18 PM

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM

And that shows me calling someone a racist “how”. The comment referred to what others were saying about Powell.

Try again.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:19 PM

thanks for admitting you need divine intervention to “win a point on the internet”. You will need more than a keyboard and anonymity if you are to lead the troops fearlessly into battle. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Actually,I was quoting Huxley, who uttered those words after Wilburforce stumbled badly during one of their debates. A bit of history…a subject with which you could use some remedial assistance.

Did you even bother to read Dr. Williams’ article? Or were there not enough pictures for you?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM

‘transitional figure’ = White people are Fair Game

this is thinly-veiled racist crap, from one of the most over-rated empty suits / empty uniforms EVAHHHH

for Manly, you probably already knew that ’semioh’ is a worthless, useless troll……..

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM

Or were there not enough pictures for you?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM

LOL.

progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 5:21 PM

I’d be more worried about the Daily Kos posting, dumb, insanely angry white people rioting if Obama loses than the average black person.

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 5:22 PM

I think I see some of them in this thread. – Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Do you see any of the Democrat racists in Congress? Let’s start with the Grand Kleagle himelf, Robert “Sheets” Byrd.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Knock yourself out, Sherlock. I don’t presume to be able to read what is in another man’s heart.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:17 PM

My dear fellow, you had best keep watch in the street and I’ll do the analysis part from here on out. It is all there to see. All you need do is observe. So elementary.

semloh on October 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM

for Manly, you probably already knew that ’semioh’ is a worthless, useless troll…….. – Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM

Yup. Add pretentious to that list.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Think about it. Have you ever seen a black Code Pinky?

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Thank you, Lord. He hath delivered himself into mine hands.

Walter Williams. Eat crow, buckwheat.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Uhhhhhhh. Mr. Rash, nice catch.

Tuche’ Mrs. Bradky.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Give it up junior.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Now you’ve gone and frightened me. And over the internet no less.

fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:26 PM

Think about it. Have you ever seen a black Code Pinky? -Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Admittedly, no. But I have seen a Black Panther. Many of them, in fact. And some of them hold some pretty cushy tenured professorships in higher academia.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Uhhhhhhh. Mr. Rash, nice catch.- 1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 5:25 PM

It’s not often that a frigate captain gets the opportunity to luff the wind, cross his opponent’s stern and rake their gun deck with a devastating broadside.

When it does happen, it is oh so sweet.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Now you’ve gone and frightened me. And over the internet no less. – fogw on October 19, 2008 at 5:26 PM

Looks like he buggered off, fog. Perhaps he’s actually READING the Williams article. Hopefully he’s learning something from it.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM

What a sexist pig. Sarah Palin has more experience than Obama ,for God’s sake

Why does everyone seem to forget she is a governor??? Bill Clinton was a governor, with no foreign policy experience as was Pres. Bush. He is a sellout and I bet Obama promised him a place in his cabinet.

becki51758 on October 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Bradky the Tough Guy….

HAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU ‘give it up’, you fat ignorant overweight over-the-hill uneducated dimwit.

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM

We have reached the point where it is more important that the the VP nominee be the experienced one instead of the Presidential nominee.

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Duh! McCain is elderly and what could that mean????????????

As a former Repub, the Repubs DO NOT deserve to win this election. It is beyond insane for McCain to have chosen someone so little vetted, so little known, when all along he stated his selection would be based upon the VP being able to take over from day one. Well, he didn’t do that. He lied (nothing new). And he’s got bad judgment to boot!

With the tanking economy lurking for months, and McCain’s acknowledgment that he is weak in this area, there were other better and competent choices, such as Romney, or if McCain wanted a woman, Kay Baily Hutchinsen comes to mind.

McCain lacks the judgment needed to make even basic, but very important decisions.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Buckwheat? Nah, more like Alfalfa (time is taking care of the cowlick for me). I made NO comment about race being a factor in his BHO endorsement in my comments of Secty. Powell.

I prefer the original Star Trek or Enterprise to TNG, and it’s not a trite phrase.

Uniform, yes I have. To protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic…

Buckwheat, chucklehead, et al…Seriously, keep ‘em coming, it shows a lack of seriousness.

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 5:38 PM

for Manly, you probably already knew that ’semioh’ is a worthless, useless troll……..

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:20 PM

I must advise you yet again to calm down or you will surly give yourself a stroke. Try visualizing a placid and serene lake. Maybe that will tie you over until The One provides free health care to all.

Sigmund on October 19, 2008 at 5:39 PM

So if I bring up the thousands of people lynched almost 100 years ago it is a reasonable point to say that is what whites still advocate? see how that logic works my foggy friend.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Just as a point of fact, there were no “thousands of people lynched” either 100 years ago or at any time in American history. Depending upon which sources you credit, the total number of victims of this horrific practice was somewhere between 2400 and 3500 for the entire period of 1865 to ca. 1960, with the vast majority of lynchings having occurred during the immediate post-Civil War period and the period of the first upsurge of the KKK.

That the total number accepted by historians is an order of magnitude lower for the particular time period mentioned cannot in any regard excuse the crimes, but indulging in exaggeration of this type ill-suits the self-styled “voice of reason.”

CK MacLeod on October 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Criticizing Powell at this point is not racist and is not unseemly in any way. It is a matter of soberly appraising Powell’s actions as a military leader in the first Gulf War and as Secretary of State and of the basis for endorsing Obama and not McCain.

General Schwartzkof (who has endorsed McCain) was the genius behind the first Gulf War, not Powell, who arguably did screw up at the end.

Powell was a mediocre Secretary of State, very much a transmission belt for career left leaning bureaucrats in the State Department. He was outrageously disloyal with respect to the Valerie Plame Wilson matter. It was Powell’s Deputy Richard Armitage who was the source for Bob Novak, and Powell knew it. Yet, Powell remained silent, never telling Bush and Cheney while Bush and Cheney were pillioried in the press and a Special Prosecutor was spending years and miliions of dollars for no prosecutions under the Agent Identities Protection Act (there were no violations) but causing plenty of political damage to the Bush Administration. Bush had plenty of reasons to replace Powell for Bush’s second term.

Now, in a time of war with radical Islamists and a time of a resurgent KGB Russia, we have a choice: John McCain, a war hero who is supremely knowledgeable and experienced in foreign policy; or Barack Obama, an anti-miiltary socialist who has no experience and not a clue about foreign policy. Former Secretaries of State Kissinger, Schultz, Haig and Eagleburder have all endorsed McCain and did so early during the GOP primaries in 2007, knowing McCain’s experience and knowledge in foreign pollicy, military matters and national security. What does Powell do? Endorse Obama two weeks before the election. It cannot be denied that Powell put race first.

So, my advice to all is to state the record as to Powell, and then say good riddance from the GOP. There are plenty of highly capable and honorable blacks in the GOP. John McCain’s theme is “Country First,” something Powell has forgotten.

Phil Byler on October 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Riiight. It’s not about race – Colin Powell is endorsing Obama because Barry’s plan to quit Iraq, one battalion at a time, with all forces out this past Spring, was so much better than the McCain/Petraeus troop surge.

Color me disgusted.

Buy Danish on October 19, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Bradky the Tough Guy….

HAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU ‘give it up’, you fat ignorant overweight over-the-hill uneducated dimwit.

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Hay Janos, why get nasty with our intelligence constrained brothren? I was much more polite. I just suggested that he go back to posting on “democratic underground” where he obviously belongs.

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Tired of the whole issue and tired of Colin Powell but wish to leave with this word concerning the gentleman ringing in your ears oh trolls: He is RACIST!

jeanie on October 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM

And if McCain had picked any one of those people for VP, he would be down another 10-12 points by now.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM

I’d be more worried about the Daily Kos posting, dumb, insanely angry white people rioting if Obama loses than the average black person.

Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Agreed. I tend to imagine little bands of college age stoners in “Sarah Palin is a c*nt t-shirts” limply hurling some pebble-sized rocks at the windows of their local Starbucks, dismayed that the masses of insulted and injured everyday African Americans find them a little comical and a lot off-putting.

CK MacLeod on October 19, 2008 at 5:45 PM

Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 5:14 PM

There are racists most everywhere, including up to 33% of white democrats according to a recent survey (and Congressman Murtha).

The point was and is that the Republican party under Lincoln helped end slavery, the republicans helped pass the Civil Rights laws of the 60’s overcoming democrat party obstruction and resistance. And today, Republicans continue to advocate ‘color blind’ policies versus the preferences and entitlement policies of democrats.

Gohawgs on October 19, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM

The usual drivel from the usual drone.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Tired of the whole issue and tired of Colin Powell but wish to leave with this word concerning the gentleman ringing in your ears oh trolls: He is RACIST!

jeanie on October 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Jeanie I totally agree with you and I am getting off the thread also. Yes, the endorsement was racist motivated without a reasonable doubt. As far as the trolls are concerned the ones I tried to reason with only had “talking points”. Good night all.

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Sigmund on October 19, 2008 at 5:39 PM

telling simple truths IS calming, Dr. Freud.

duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 5:41 PM

thanks for the advice on giving Bradky directions, but as Popeye said, “I yam what I yam”. I’ve read Bradky’s posts for a Long While, and when he gets outsmarted ( which is easliy done ) he switches to boorish insults and lame attempts at bullying people. So now, I get right to the point.

I stopped posting here for a long while because trolls and Frequent Idiots like Brady and MB4 ruined thread after thread with gibberish.

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:50 PM

I stopped posting here for a long while because trolls and Frequent Idiots like Brady and MB4 ruined thread after thread with gibberish.

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Perhaps I should post more often and in more threads if it makes tools like you quit typing.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:54 PM

The usual drivel from the usual drone. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:47 PM

You hurt his feelings, Janos.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:54 PM

And if McCain had picked any one of those people for VP, he would be down another 10-12 points by now.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Really? And why would that be? Please explain.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Perhaps I should post more often and in more threads if it makes tools like you quit typing. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:54 PM

On the contrary, Brad. Please keep posting. You are very, very entertaining – in pathetic, circus-freak kind of way.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Really? And why would that be? Please explain.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:55 PM

LOL. If you need an explanation then it’s clear that you wouldn’t understand it.

progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM

On the contrary, Brad. Please keep posting. You are very, very entertaining – in pathetic, circus-freak kind of way.

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 5:56 PM

This from the guy whose Ouiji board told him the election would break for McCain.

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Run Forest Run

Run Powell Run

Kini on October 19, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Really? And why would that be? Please explain.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:55 PM
LOL. If you need an explanation then it’s clear that you wouldn’t understand it.

progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Wow, what a cop out! I’m very intelligent…so please explain. Why not Romney; why not Kay Bailey Hutchinson?

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 6:02 PM

And if McCain had picked any one of those people for VP, he would be down another 10-12 points by now.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Really? And why would that be? Please explain.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Could someone please take this for me? I’m not in the mood to explain the obvious to the oblivious.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I changed my policy, moron: Now I expose uneducated clowns like you, who have garbled ideas with no substance and no way of expressing themselves except one cliche after another

Every time you post, you reveal a little more of your inherent stupidity. You’re too easy of a target, though, and it’s boring.

What can anyone say to someone who has nothing to say, and no ability to say anything clearly?

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 6:03 PM

I stopped posting here for a long while because trolls and Frequent Idiots like Brady and MB4 ruined thread after thread with gibberish.

Janos Hunyadi on October 19, 2008 at 5:50 PM

You are a very angry and bitter man, Janos. Despite your protestations to the contrary you really need to start visualizing a placid and serene lake before it is too late. It is either that or more medication. The choice is yours.

Sigmund on October 19, 2008 at 6:04 PM

This from the guy whose Ouiji board told him the election would break for McCain. – Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I don’t own a oija board nor do I even believe in clairvoyance, Bradley.

What are you frightened of, ma petit cellar-dweller?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 6:04 PM

And if McCain had picked any one of those people for VP, he would be down another 10-12 points by now.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Really? And why would that be? Please explain.

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Could someone please take this for me? I’m not in the mood to explain the obvious to the oblivious.

LegendHasIt on October 19, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Ha, you lazy chicken!

Shelby on October 19, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Sigmund on October 19, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Serenity now! SERENITY NOW!!!!!

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 6:06 PM

ManlyRash is correct. McCain will win. Palin will be the first female VP. Powell’s endorsement may cause some inside the beltway pundits and MSM to swoon and get tingling legs, but will have no real impact with the electorate.

Drunken Angry Clown on October 19, 2008 at 6:08 PM

What are you frightened of, ma petit cellar-dweller?

ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 6:04 PM

As I have said before McCain has my vote. But if he loses I don’t believe the republic will fall as you seem to be so eager for. Talk about acting like chicken little…

Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 6:08 PM

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