Colin Powell drops the other shoe
posted at 11:10 am on October 19, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama today on NBC’s Meet the Press. The endorsement had been rumored for months, as Powell has made no secret of his disaffection from the Republicans since his retirement as Secretary of State. It gives Barack Obama much needed support on questions of foreign policy and military affairs in a period of time when people may question whether to trust a man with no experience at either. But did Powell miss the window?
After months of hints and speculation, former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama this morning, a huge vote of confidence in the Illinois Democrat with just 16 days left before the November election.
“He has both style and substance,” Powell said of Obama on NBC’s “Meet the Press”. “I think he is a transformational figure.”
As we wrote on Friday, the Powell endorsement carries huge symbolic importance — not only is he a former high-ranking member of President Bush’s Cabinet but he also was the most visible face in making the case for the war against Iraq.
Powell’s endorsement complicates any attempt by John McCain and others within the Republican Party to cast Obama as naive on world affairs and unready to lead in a dangerous time. Obama now has a ready retort: “Well, Colin Powell seems to trust my judgment; that’s why he endorsed me.”
I’m not going to impugn Powell’s motives here. He served his country honorably in every task assigned to him, and he’s earned the right to participate in the political process. Unlike endorsers like Christopher Buckley, Douglas Kmiec, or Michael Smerconish, Powell has never publicly identified himself as a conservative activist. He’s mostly stayed within the military and foreign-policy realm and could easily have served as Secretary of State in a Clinton administration as much as in a Bush administration. This doesn’t represent any hypocritical apostasy, and it doesn’t come as much of a surprise, either.
However, I don’t think this will have the same impact it may have had in the summer, for two reasons. First, I think most people expected Powell to endorse Obama, and most of us expected it at the Democratic convention. Powell hasn’t hidden his disdain for his former colleagues well, especially while his closest aide Richard Armitage spent most of his time ripping them. Coming as it does now, it may impact some voters who still feel uncomfortable with Obama’s lack of experience. Otherwise, I don’t think anyone likely to be swayed by this endorsement didn’t already factor it into their thinking.
In August, Obama could have used this when he fumbled the Russo-Georgian conflict. Now, though, foreign policy has dropped to the second tier for most voters. They’re more interested in economic issues, and I think Joe the Plumber has more resonance than Colin Powell at this point in the election. Powell, who has no experience in economic issues and has never spoken out on them, simply doesn’t figure into those concerns.
Powell’s endorsement still gives Obama a boost and certainly some gravitas. Does it really change the ground in this election? I’m skeptical. McCain needs to hammer on these economic themes to make Powell’s endorsement less relevant over the last two weeks.
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It’s all in the timing. They had to change the JTP story to something else…quick. Enter the big fundraising story and Powell’s endorsement (which we’ve all known about since August).
dmarie on October 19, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Hope so. Aside from race, Powell’s endorsement will be spun as another centrist jumping from the GOP ship. Few endorsements matter and I’m not sure this one matters too much, but McCain has ground to make up and this doesn’t help.
dedalus on October 19, 2008 at 12:59 PM
what makes me laugh is….all these teenagers and poor people looking for the big government handout that’s going to (as they seem to think) better their lives without having to work…ha!…no matter how many government checks you toss out like they plan to do, they will never be eating Lobster and Iranian caviar in the Plaza Like
EvitaMichelle does.LET THEM EAT LOBSTER!!!!
You gotta work folks…there is no other way!(except being a “community activist” of course) and Oh-Bama knows this! he knows his base will always be right where he wants them…down in the gutter
eplain on October 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM
If you base his endorsement on where he stands on the issues, it is confusing to both the Left and the Right. Why he would align with Obama as well as why would Obama align with him on issues? When this was rumored several months back, I mentioned to an Obama supporter who immediately tied Powell as a sell out to Bush’s policies. So… what washes out in the end, like others have been saying, this will be perceived as either purely political or a race alliance.
EyesOpen on October 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM
I do hope you’re right on this one. Ann Coulter’s recent op-ed says a McCain victory is possible. However, just imagine the mass rioting that’s going to happen if he does win.
ErinF on October 19, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Uh…wasn’t Powell in the BOOOSH administration? That goes against everything Obama bin Biden stand for. Ha.
SouthernGent on October 19, 2008 at 1:03 PM
This certainly doesn’t hurt Obama but endorsements are overrated, for the most part. Party partisans are going to vote for their candidate no matter who endorses them, and independents who can be swayed tend to vote based on their gut feelings about the candidate.
And as of right now, even with all the stars lining up in favor of Obama and the Democrats this year, the polls are tightening and he still hasn’t sealed the deal yet. If he hasn’t been able to do it yet even with a cheerleading media, an unpopular Republican president, and a faltering economy, I’m not sure I see a Powell endorsement doing it either.
We’ll see what the polls do this week. If they continue to tighten despite everything, I’m going to be cautiously optimistic about a McCain win.
rsrobinson on October 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Powell: “We are living in the world’s most dangerous times.”
Powell: “I am supporting Barack Obama.”
And I guess Colin thinks 1 + 1 = 3
Sorry but the guy must have contradicted himself 10 or 15 times during that interview, trying to cover up for past quotes he made in the Bush Administration and trying to come up with a rational explanation for his support of an inexperienced, wet-behind-the ears (a lot of wet), and pathetic excuse for presidential candidate.
Gee Colon, why don’t you just marry Obama? And while your at it, time to change your party to Democrat, or black guy supporting other black guy because he’s a black guy. I think that’s a political party now, with a rather large membership.
Warrior turning on fellow warrior, to support little chicken girl.
NOTHING about this breakout announcement surprised me, except the heretofor unknown extent of his inability to understand complex matters. No wonder W fired him.
fogw on October 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Almost all of it will be confined to Democrat-controlled Blue State urban centers. They will be tearing up their own infrastructure. Screw ‘em.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Oh, there’s more of them out there than you can imagine.
Take this bunch of turn-coats for example.
From my “Palin at the Hyatt” video on the ‘Tube.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I agree with Ed 100%…Who really cares at this point? The economy is the only thing voters want to talk about.
Dritanian on October 19, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Sorry to see Powell do this, what a sad moment knowing he could have been the Republican President if he so desired.
He eliminated his chance and now has gone “Maverick” on both sides..:lol
It may be too little to late, seeing the impact is softened
by the fact he could have done it sooner and not be seen
as “bandwagon supporter” at he last minute. There are too
many suspicious Libs that have a great dislike for Powell
and will not care about Powell’s endorsement as much as
they would Judge Thomas.
The thing is, McCain and Powell are so much a like in history. They would have made a excellent team.
But on the bright side…Palin just shines out everything.
She is the light in this darkness…we are really blessed
to have her.
dec5 on October 19, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Didn’t hear any praise of Biden. The doviest VP candidate in history.
Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 1:11 PM
This is not about race, is it? No don’t say that.
mariloubaker on October 19, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Yeah! LOL! Not likely anything would happen in my area of the woods (literally, I’m in the middle of the woods), but if it does, they’re not getting out alive. My husband’s built up enough ammo for his own militia.
ErinF on October 19, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Colin Powell can endorse whoever he wants. But if he thinks that there has been more vitriol, and bile against Obama than Gov. Palin, he’s more foolish than I thought. And I can only conclude that he did endorse him simply for the color of his skin.
I’ve lost all my respect for the man.
Enoxo on October 19, 2008 at 1:15 PM
I respect the man for his achievements. However I am highly disappointed in his view. This is a man who was privy to all the Intel during Desert Storm, yet he has never come out to defend Bush. What is the underlying current here? Was it because he was replaced as SS? Very disappointing. There has to be something that kicked his cat.
N4646W on October 19, 2008 at 1:17 PM
There are a whole bunch of good old boys that know more about military than the current military. In plain numbers, the military will have a hard time of it unless they plan to nuke the American heartland; and them they starve.
MikeA on October 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM
His whole career, it only shows a man taking and following orders from “above” pretty well? Speaks very little about his own conviction (re: fighting socialists).
Now we know clearly, his ‘courage’ and his ‘Republican belief’.
Sir Napsalot on October 19, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Obama is so very liberal, and Powell says he’s a Republican, so your conclusion deserves careful consideration. Watching Powell’s appearance on Meet the Press today, endorsing Obama, I couldn’t help but sense he was trying to put lipstick on a pig. The lipstick was his argument for endorsing Obama. The pig was Obama’s far left views, his total lack of executive experience, his wanting to be all things to all people, and his shading and lying about his past such as about Ayers and Wright.
Paul-Cincy on October 19, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I prefer “called for by the left”.
allrsn on October 19, 2008 at 1:23 PM
The nuclear option is definitely off the table. A complicating factor in this might be the national guard units in each of the states. While they can be called up by order of the president, their ordinary CinC is the governor. A whole bunch of questions arises:
What happens if a governer refuses to deploy them? Would the federal government then order its military to “invade” the rebel state and compel obedience? Would the NG in that state mobilize to defend it? Would there be dissention in their ranks? Would there also be dissention in the ranks of the federal military?
One thing is for certain: while I don’t doubt the skill and determination of the “good old boys,” it is no match for the sophisticated weaponry and excellent training of the U.S. armed forces.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Powell and Rice have a difficult path to tread. To support McCain will be seen as dissing their fellow black Americans.
It is an important first for black people to have one who claims identity with them to have the potential to be elected President of the USA. It is easier to voice support than to be seen as turncoats to their own ehnicity. Their votes remain private no matter what their public statements.
Pat in NC on October 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Gee, thanks. From Baltimore.
Though, to be honest, I would rather wait out a riot than see Obama win.
Count to 10 on October 19, 2008 at 1:39 PM
So perhaps Powell knows that if he does not toe the line he may be one of the first to vanish off to the re-education camps? Possible. O he may really just be seeing himself as a Black-American more than as an American.
MikeA on October 19, 2008 at 1:40 PM
I see no surprise, only irony, as I remember watching Powell’s presentation showing Russian vehicles transporting what was believed to be WMDs. That presentation was the deciding factor to go into Iraq.
Powell turned coat years ago. I’ve always been amazed at the number of conservatives who didn’t realize that and still fronted his name for president.
Connie on October 19, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I think the blacks need to wait on another black candidate. This one isnt it. Just being black isn’t gonna do it.
johnnyU on October 19, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Some of the good ole boys designed those weapons, and others developed that training. The one thing that I see as certain is that if the socialists are dumb enough to poke at that hornet’s nest, the result is likely to be pretty graphic.
MikeA on October 19, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Benedict Arnold
ToddonCapeCod on October 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM
My condolences. For what it’s worth, I live in NJ – about 30 minutes west of Newark. At that elevation we’ll be able to watch Newark burn to ground in comfort and safety.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM
On that I agree completely. Come to think of it, if armed American patriots could do half the damage that poorly armed and trained Iraqi insurgents could do, then I suspect the war would be a short one.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Colon Powell is a modern American hero. He has shown good judgment throughout his career and so his endorsement should not be taken lightly. He’s neither a tool nor a fool; in fact after reading some comments here, he’s smarter than all the conservative brains at hotair.com put together. It’s funny how conservatives here got their panties in a bunch over the so-called personal attacks on Joe the plumber yet have no qualms insulting a great American like Powell. This is why even some Republicans are sick of this childish display by conservatives. Grow up conservatives!
barry norris on October 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I think I have always really wanted to like Powell, they way that I wanted to like Obama. But, as Secretary of State, he seemed way to passive and accommodating (particularly to tyrants). Then I learned that he is largely responsible for Saddam having enough troupes to stay in power after the first Gulf War, all because he was too squeamish about killing Iraqi solders (when those Iraqi solders went on to kill many more Iraqis).
He’s caught up in Obama’s glamor. “Transformational” is the word used by those who don’t understand why they support Obama when reason tells them they should not.
Count to 10 on October 19, 2008 at 1:56 PM
“I don’t believe [Obama] is ready to be president of the United States,” Powell said flatly. By contrast, Palin’s running mate, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, “is ready to be president on day one.”
Why did he say the one but not the other, which of logical necessity follows, and in fact should come first as either McCain or Obama will be President and with Palin and Biden it is only a small possiblity?
The explanation is inescapable.
“
WinningRace isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.”-
Vince LombardiColin Powellsemloh on October 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I don’t agree with Powell, but I’m not going to participate in the same thought-polic-antics that we so hate. (claiming something is racism).
And anyone planning on attacking the government, or encouraging the national guard to disobey federal orders should Obama win is no different from Ayers.
Conservatives supposed to be better.
Trent1289 on October 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Now can we hear from McCain on the subject of Reverend Wright?
Jim-Rose on October 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM
I saw figures over at Strata-Sphere showing a poll of military people. According to that poll McCain is at 68% and Obama is at 23%.
I think Powell’s endorsement is about race more than anything. I am sorry, but I just feel that way. He went to the UN for Bush, he did not have to do that. He could have resigned then if he had a problem and now here he is endorsing a man that pretty much said everything Powell said about Iraq was a lie.
Maybe promises have been made, deals struck, whatever. But I think it has more to do with race.
Terrye on October 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM
I also have a problem with the “Obama isn’t ready” mem.
It implies that he could be ready some day, when the man is clearly unacceptable at any age and shows no sign of ever learning not to be a catastrophe.
Count to 10 on October 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Of course it doesn’t, just as Bill Clinton’s relationship with Monica had nothing to do with sex.
semloh on October 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM
We have reached the point where it is more important that the the VP nominee be the experienced one instead of the Presidential nominee.
Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Exactly! Exactly! Some things are just too easy here in the USA. For example, can you imagine the effect it would have on military air ops if ever plane that flew over the heartland was painted by a half million of those little $25 laser pointers, from as many locations? How many Anhydrous Ammonia tanks are there between say Chicago and Denver? How many of the NG armories are not already surrounded?
MikeA on October 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM
I can’t argue with that. Some of these posts creep me out almost as much as “President Obama.”
Count to 10 on October 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM
barry:
I am not saying Powell is a coward. I think that for the left to attack McCain the way they do and still yammer about American heroes is something of a joke.
BTW, Powell started out as a Democrat, he is just returning to his roots.
Terrye on October 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Shut…up toadie.
How much “military experience” to you have?
Never mind, you’d just lie about it anyway, or look it up in Wiki.
Wolveriiiiiines!!!
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 19, 2008 at 2:08 PM
What a jerk .One black lib. endoring another black lib.Powell is no American hero just a nother in a long list of Libs. who care more about the color of a persons skin than the content of there character.If his name was Barry Smith and he was of Mexican desent and beleive the same thing that Obama does would Powell endors him? Not just no but Hell no!!!
thmcbb on October 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I personnally could care less… He’s been washed up and miserable since he quit ther Bush administration… Now if Condi did this I would be shocked and dismayed… Colin Powell?..yawn…
CCRWM on October 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Lets be honest. The only reason Powell became a Republican was because of the extreme anti-military nature of the Democrats in the late 70’s and 80’s.
Speedwagon82 on October 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Glad you agree with his stance on WMDs and his public support of President Bush’s invasion of Iraq.
……. just like the candidate he just endorsed.
=snicker=
fogw on October 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM
talking points, that is all that endorsment was, talking points
kara26 on October 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Speedwagon:
It was in Powell’s interest at the time to be a Republican, now it is in interest to be something else.
I heard him say once that the first President he voted for was a Democrat.
Terrye on October 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM
No one here said anything about attacking the federal government – just the opposite, in fact. The scenario involves a situation where the federal government assumes hegemonic power over the states and a state or group of states chooses to oppose that power by either asserting their sovereignty under Article X (the so-called Oklahoma Option) or seceding from the union outright (the so-called South Carolina Option). Whatever, the case, the feds would have to make the first move toward violence.
Please explain how you can equate either of these actions on the part of the states with the domestic terrorism of Bill Ayers.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM
fogw:
Yes that is true. barry seems to have forgotten that Powell was all in favor of going after Saddam, not once but twice.
And if being part of Bush’s cabinet is not in and of itself and endorsement of Bush..then what is?
Terrye on October 19, 2008 at 2:17 PM
What, precisely, “creeps” you out?
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Then why did he endorse Obama and with such transparently disingenuous arguments for doing so? Surely if he was so smart he could have done better, a lot better.
semloh on October 19, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Never give a sword to a man who creeps out easily.
semloh on October 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM
whatever.
Black Adam on October 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM
LOL. Why would his “style” matter at all to a serious person? Oh, this is Powell speaking … not a serious person.
Too funny. Powell is as naive as they come, with respect to world affairs. The fool has never shown any great understanding of much of anything and his tenures in public positions have been total failures. Frankly, I’m amazed that Powell still shows his face in public. But, after the Plame affair, we all got to understand that Powell has no integrity, whatsoever, in addition to his very weak mind.
Go ahead, B Hussein. Everyone who knows anything knows that Powell has no judgment, as can be seen in the long list of poor decisions he has made at every opportunity.
But, to make it short and sweet, Powell’s judgment is clearly on display for all to see in his endorsement of a Marxist for President … just because they have the same basic shade of skin. Yeah … that’s some really serious judgment, there …
progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Sorry Ed, not this time. I realize it’s obligatory for conservatives to be polite but not to the extent of flat-out distortions.
Powell did not serve his country honorably if he used his civil government position to cover up his military blunders.
My post from the Rush thread:
This guy is as bad as Weasely Clark. Maybe worse because there’s a lot of blood and treasure we’ve lost in Iraq simply because Powell cared more about the UN than he did about his country in 1991.
platypus on October 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I hate to say this, but the simple fact is that the Powell endorsement’s effect is going to be muted b/c people will assume that Powell is endorsing Obama b/c of Obama’s race, not b/c of his qualifications. Now if Petrayus or someone white of Powell’s stature had made the endorsement it would be different; but the bottom line is that this will be seen (though not spoken out loud) as a sympathetic endorsment from one black man to another.
PackerBronco on October 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Do you think Soros sent him cash or a check?
Or maybe ten million people each sent him a one dollar contribution on the interweb.
fogw on October 19, 2008 at 2:39 PM
I want to know whom Tommy Franks, the American Soldier, endorses, not whom Colin Powel, The Perfumed Prince,
has racial solidarity withendorses.MB4 on October 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Why is Colin Powell’s endorsement important again?
He was the main instigator behind our leaving the Kurds and Shiites who rebelled against Saddam Hussein to the slaughter. He said that he believed Hussein was “contained”. He has openly praised the “democratic” elections in Iran after they purged thousands of reformist candidates from the ballot. His right-hand man was the guy who “outed” Valerie Plame then sat on that knowledge for a long time while President Bush’s name was dragged through the mud.
The guy has absolutely horrible judgment and I honestly don’t understand why Republicans admire him so.
Jimmie on October 19, 2008 at 2:41 PM
LMAO. Thanks – I needed that.
platypus on October 19, 2008 at 2:43 PM
This troubles me greatly because I have a GREAT deal of respect for him and I just cannot understand why he would endorse Obama because he goes against everything I thought Powell stood for at one time.
HoosierCon on October 19, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Uncle Tom meet Uncle Bill
Kini on October 19, 2008 at 2:51 PM
OoooooooNoooooooo….Uncle Bill!
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 2:54 PM
After two threads anticipating Powell’s endorsement of Obama, I think we’ve come to a consensus that it is irrelevant. I’m surprised Ed thinks that it gives Obama a “boost” and wonder where the “gravitas” is.
Imagine what the Kos kids would say had Powell endorsed McCain — Powell, who was wrong-headed on Iraq, endorses Bush III — now apply that to Obama. The only difference is that Powell’s endorsement of Obama shows us that he (Powell):
(1) is not a conservative (he’s just a former soldier who carried out some conservative policies while serving in a Republican administration);
(2) places greater weight on the “historic” nature of Obama’s candidacy than on his accomplishments, most likely because they share the same skin coloration; and
(3) is so bitter about his time in the Bush administration he felt it necessary to publicly endorse Obama, rather than just vote for him as a private citizen.
Bottom line: unless during Powell’s endorsement he could state that, after lengthy discussions, Obama was prepared to concede his mistake in pushing for a withdrawal from Iraq without victory, this endorsement carries as much weight as Wesley Clark’s… or Homer Simpson’s.
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM
One more thing. Powell’s behavior (which I think stems not just from his racial identity hang-ups but also from his focus on “globalism”) really reemphasizes the importance of putting a real tough as nails conservative in the Secretary of State slot. Assuming McCain pulls off the win, Bolton for State – all the way.
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I don’t get this – Powell was the originator of leaving Iraq without victory (which has cost America dearly). So why would Obambi accept an endorsement from General Weak-Knee while also condemning the basis of that endorsement?
They are two peas in a pod. Neither believes in American victory. Neither is good for America.
Joe Lieberman has more guts than either one.
platypus on October 19, 2008 at 3:08 PM
platypus on October 19, 2008 at 2:38 PM
another Weasely Clark? ……absolutely,
this also means another book deal.
Well Condoleezza Rice, what said you?
try again later on October 19, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Powell is wrong. The GOP has moved to the left in recent years.
MedSchoolCatholic on October 19, 2008 at 3:23 PM
The only surprise would have been IF he picked the white guy. He said he started questioning McCain’s judgment after he chose Palin. Uhhh, Wright (20 yrs), Ayers, etc etc etc. Just say “Obama’s Black”. I’d love to put this guy on a lie detector machine.
marklmail on October 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I laugh every time I hear this same line. These faux-conservatives can’t think up anything better for themselves? LOL.
progressoverpeace on October 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM
All true. But those are all rational arguments, and Obama’s followers are not rational.
theregoestheneighborhood on October 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM
True. McCain sits with his most powerful weapon to defeat Oslime-a unused for the sake of “fairness”.
Of course I refer to the lovely Reverend Wright. America hater extraordinaire.
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
This means nothing. What did anyone expect? He’s been hinting at this for months. Boring.
sheesh on October 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Close your mouth. The little balls of crap are escaping.
csdeven on October 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Hey, guess what I found out:
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==============================
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Obama is a national threat:
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And this man wants to be President? I and several tens of millions of people think NOT.
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68
AdrianS on October 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Be truefull Gen. Powell this is all about race and you know it.If you say it,s not about race then all that you have said over the last 18 years about Iraq and how we should keep our military strong and other things that are 180 degrees away from Obama thinking.You Sir are lieing to your self and the American people !!!!
thmcbb on October 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Time to air “God Damn America”. McCain deserves to lose if he refuses to use this nuke.
marklmail on October 19, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Wahhhhh! I don’t like the democratic process when the person I am for gets more votes. Wahhh!! lets secede from the union…
Good Grief Charlie Brown
Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Sorry – should’ve put a sarc tag on that last bit.
Out of curiosity I checked Kos posts on Powell (pre-endorsement) — lots of good “he’s a traitor for not resigning over Iraq” stuff out there.
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM
fixed the error — now Manly Rash doctrine is adequately depicted
Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Of course this is a support the brother thing. How could anybody come to any other conclusion? As far as Palin is concerned, doesn’t the fact that she is far more qualified than Obama count for anything. She may not have enough experience but she has a lot more than him and she has real accomplishments to back that up.
duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I must be Rip van Winkle. I didn’t realize today was November 5th and the votes had been counted.
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
At least the 527’s need to start moving on this.
dmarie on October 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Ummmmm….not quite, Brad. Perhaps you should read what I actually wrote and respond to that instead of a strawman of your own creation. Start by googling the definition of hegemonic.
ManlyRash on October 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM
“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls. If I were watching Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me, right?
“Because the way I’m portrayed 24/7 is as a freak! I am the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, politically correct, arrogant liberal. Who wants somebody like that?”
fify, troll.
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM
You only need to read this thread to realize why there aren’t more black Republicans.
Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM
The sun is shining, football is on the tube, hubby is bringing home barbecue… can’t we forget about this old general for a while and have a thread where we celebrate killing bad guys, please?
Y-not on October 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM
You only need to read this thread to realize why there aren’t more black Republicans.
Nonfactor on October 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM
What is the point of this post?
duff65 on October 19, 2008 at 4:23 PM
All your comments relish the thought of a glorious revolution in which states secede from the union. Its what you disdainfully refer to as “codewords” when discussing racial matters.
always race with some of you folks. Powell is a fine American whose patriotism is above reproach. Yet he exercises his right to vote and is castigated because it is not the right vote.
To say Powell is basing his vote on race is to say all whites not voting for Obama are doing the same. Just doesn’t pass the smell test.
Bradky on October 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM
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