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The obligatory “Colin Powell probably going to endorse Obama on Sunday” post

posted at 7:00 pm on October 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No word officially, but would an Obama shill like Andrea Mitchell be touting it this heavily if she thought a Maverick moment was in the works?

Hotline’s predictably jacked, too:

If Powell, retired chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, does endorse, he blesses Obama as a capable leader who is able to manage critical national security and foreign policy matters. Though his push for the Iraq war somewhat tarnished his stellar reputation as a respected military man, Powell, who served three Republican presidents, remains popular. His support for Obama could sway moderates, males, in particular, and working class whites who might be buying into the GOP’s line that Obama isn’t patriotic or American enough.

After four months of non-suspense about his intentions, it’s a relief to know we won’t have to suffer the tedium of this idiocy much longer. Needless to say, with The One on the brink of victory and the ascendant left ready to absolve him of his Bush credentials, Powell has zero incentive to throw in with McCain now. Although it would have been sporting of him not to choose such a high profile venue to break the news so that it’s not airing on a cable loop all day Sunday, which it will be. Exit quotation: “It’s going to make a lot of news, and certainly be personally embarrassing for McCain. It comes at a time when we need momentum, and it would create momentum against us.”


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Despite a conservative military posture, Powell has long leaned toward the victimhood/entitlement mentality. Now, with the chance to elect a “brother,” any conservative stances he held have been trumped and swept away. If he endorses Obama as someone who can carry out the president’s principal duty – safeguarding the nation’s security – then Powell will have thrown away his own integrity.

whitetop on October 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Never, ever liked him, even when he was the toast of the town. My instincts were correct.

Buy Danish on October 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Worst case scenario spin: Obama is endorsed by the Bush regime…

BKennedy on October 17, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Eric Cartman to Mr. Powell: “Such my BALLS!!!”

silenced majority on October 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Let me get this straight, Powell will endorse the person, who never, ever, served his country in the Military (busy smoking weed, and doing some blow) but he isn’t going to endorse his fellow Vietnam Veteran? That is how this is shaping up? I guess then Powell is a phony. I remember his lecture to the Haitian Military Officer, who took over Haiti, he gave him a lecture on duty, and integrity, and the role of the Military in Government. Just cheap talk because the press was watching?

Dr Evil on October 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Of course the Left doesn’t give two craps about Colin Powell. The only reason they care about this endorsement is to depress Republican voters.

Speedwagon82 on October 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Would Powell be yucking it up with Kanye “Bush hates black people” and “the government created AIDS to kill black people” West if he wasn’t going to drop a bomb soon?

(What is it with Obama supporters who think the government created AIDS to kill off minorities?)

If Powell wants to bring things back to national security let him. McCain owns Obama on that.

watchmen on October 17, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Powell is also the reason whe had to fight the 2 gulf war.He the one that went crying to Bush 1 and convence him to stop Gen.Storming Norman when he had them on the run.Remenber the highway of death that so upset the so called great Gen Powell .He ran to Bush and said it would make the world hate us so Bush listen to him and here we are back in Iraq again.

thmcbb on October 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Can we hold fire until he’s done it already? Sheesh.

Fortunata on October 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM

So if Powell endorses Obama, I wonder if we can get W., Condi, Rumsfeld and Rove to as well..

Hmm..can you imagine the collective explosions of moonbats? LOL

baxtrice on October 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Remember when people wanted this guy to run for president?

Ugh.

MadisonConservative on October 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Such=Suck

Too much wine, the bugs are killing me. We’re livin’ in a bug infested nightmare down here on the Texas coast. DAMN IKE!

silenced majority on October 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM

She’s a national disgrace, as is her best friend Barbara Walters. Now, why would Powell, a Military man, endorse the oponent of another Military hero. Why would Powell endorse a man who will severely hinder our military capability by reducing the budget? Powell is a racist.

marklmail on October 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Powell is also the reason whe had to fight the 2 gulf war.He the one that went crying to Bush 1 and convence him to stop Gen.Storming Norman when he had them on the run.Remenber the highway of death that so upset the so called great Gen Powell. He ran to Bush and said it would make the world hate us so Bush listen to him and here we are back in Iraq again.

thmcbb on October 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM

It was more Scowcroft than Powell.

dedalus on October 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Powell is a racist idiot.

silenced majority on October 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit…

Me thinks that Powell is fishing for a cabinet position as the Sec of Defense…

CynicalOptimist on October 17, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Isn’t this at least the third time this has come up in the last two months??

Slow news day? The 0bamedia couldn’t come up with any more scandals involving Palin or Plumbers?

LegendHasIt on October 17, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Colin Powell is an African American first and an American second. Is anyone delusional enough to think that his endorsement has to do with ANYTHING but race?
Powell is just FINALLY showing conservatives why many of us have disliked/not trusted him for years.
He is the poster child for opportunism.

Sugar Land on October 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM

90 percent of blacks would vote for Robert Byrd if he were the Dem nominee.

Speedwagon82 on October 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Oslime-a may be on his way to being elected and if Powell thinks it is inevitable, this might be a way to be selected as an adviser so a rational person will be a hedge against Oslime-a’s foreign policy penchant for European socialism and surrenderacracy?

Yeah, I know. Keep dreaming.

csdeven on October 17, 2008 at 8:37 PM

2nd lawsuit challenges Obama’s citizenship
Man demands state verify birth records or remove senator from ballots

Note: It is incumbent upon ALL Secretaries of State in all of the United States to BOTH accurately verify Voters AND candidates. Barack Hussein Obama has sealed his “Hawaiian” birth records and also records in Kenya.

Failure to verify and certify qualification for ALL candidates in a general election by any Secretary of State may be a cause of action (dereliction of duty) and criminal charges may be filed.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78111

Also:

The Video that could cost Obama the election

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68

First Lawsuit against Obama and the DNC:
http://www.obamacrimes.com

AdrianS on October 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM

That’s right, he’s nothng but a “black power” racist. Obama has nothing, NOTHING, that Colin Powell can point to and claim: Here’s why I’m voting for this fine young man. I’m disgusted and I’m furious that this has become an “I’m black so I must support my “brother”. Fuck you Colin Powell. You’re a sell out and you know it. You’re only coming out now because it looks like the messiah is in a little trouble. Thanks for taking thr whole “racism issue” up yet another notch.

anniekc on October 17, 2008 at 8:41 PM

He is a liberal, so who gives a crap!

Mercy4Me on October 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM

I liked Powell,especially in the days
of Norman(Stormin Norman)Schwarzkopf
of Desert Storm!

If Hopey/Changey loses,I would imagen
Colin might feel like an #ss,I dunno!:)

canopfor on October 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM

who might be buying into the GOP’s line that Obama isn’t patriotic or American enough.

Why is the idea that Obama is not fit to be President strictly a GOP idea? Independents and even some Democrats don’t trust him either. And this whole “buying into” is meant to infer that it’s the equivalent to being suckered. It isn’t. It’s just common sense. Lot’s of Obama supporters can’t name a single reason why he should be President. Ask a McCain supporter why they support him and they can almost always name a few valid issues. So who’s buying into what?

Guardian on October 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Powell — race is thicker than party. Sad.

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Powell — race is thicker than party love of the republic. Sad.

Fixed it, Paul.

ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 8:53 PM

… the only reason Powell would come out for Obama is because he is half black no more no less.That is the reason and it is a shame.
thmcbb on October 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM

While I can understand your taking this view, I don’t agree. My instincts say that while the man may be a political weasel a la Richard Armitage, a weasel whom I’ve come to detest in the last few years, he’s not racist in the meaning I’d prefer to use the word.

It seems only natural that a person in a minority group might prefer to vote for one of his own, qualifications being equal… or even near equal…if the motivation is political parity. It’s only human nature, and I see nothing wrong with it, so long as I have the same prerogative. I can’t fault the man for that. What I fault him for is letting Armitage call the shots for him and being such a back-stabbing weasel.

petefrt on October 17, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Go ahead Colin, give Obambi the tongue bath he’s expecting. Two weeks from now, when you decide to stand up for something decent, they’ll be calling you Uncle Tom again.

AubieJon on October 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM

One word.

Treason

‘Nuff Said.

LibertarianConservative on October 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM

We’ll see if Powell endorses anyone. Until then, its all conjecture.

southsideironworks on October 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM

If Colin votes for Barack, obviously it doesn’t make any sense, especially when he served in two Bush administrations. Truth is, conservatives know that all republicans are not conservative. It’s unsettling when you think about it. Such high level officials who don’t really believe their own parties dogma. The fact is, they’re all part of the same establishment that is controlled my multinational corporations. I mean, the audience at the Alfred E. Smith dinner last night, the media and Govt. officials all hanging out together having dinner & drinks. Um, aren’t the media supposed to be independant of the Govt.? Why are they out on the town with them? These are rhetorical questions, of course. Apparently CNN calls it “Keeping Them Honest” though.

apacalyps on October 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Colin Powell’s endorsement, should it be forthcoming, will bring no new votes to Obama, nor would it add any to McCain.

He was a political opportunist who demonstrated himself to be more concerned with world opinion than with serving his country.

Y-not on October 17, 2008 at 9:19 PM

We’ll see if Powell endorses anyone. Until then, its all conjecture.

southsideironworks on October 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM

That is true. I still say though that not all republicans are conservative and if you support Obama, I don’t see how you can call yourself a conservative.

apacalyps on October 17, 2008 at 9:24 PM

For three years he kept his mouth shut when he knew exactly who told novak about plame. colin powell has no honor.

peacenprosperity on October 17, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Does a Colin Powell endorsement buy Obama anything?

Powell’s been a political creature most of his career, and he’s a tarnished icon at this point – if he truly believed what the administration was peddling about Iraq was bunk, he clearly should have resigned.

I think most of the people to whom Powell’s endorsement might otherwise have meant something are going to look at this, justifiably or not, as an unfortunate case of race trumping qualification.

JEM on October 17, 2008 at 9:33 PM

General Powell is a great American patriot. I respect him very much on many levels as a fellow veteran. But he can endorse Obama twice and it won’t change my opinions on who I need to vote for. The endorsement will be hollow as Obama’s record.

Hog Wild on October 17, 2008 at 9:39 PM

I’ve never been impressed with Powell. Politics as usual.

Mojave Mark on October 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM

At this point it does not matter who endorses who. Minds are made up, it’s all about the turnout.

R D on October 17, 2008 at 9:43 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ…..

I voted for Nixon so what the hell do I care who Powell votes for?

Limerick on October 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM

I might get banned but I will say what everyone here must be thinking

“What at treacherous, ungrateful, prick!”

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Meh.

spmat on October 17, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Powell was, and still is, an American Hero. Just because he makes a political decision you disagree with does not change that.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 7:10 PM

What makes him a hero?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM

What makes him a hero?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Political correctness.

progressoverpeace on October 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM

The obligatory Colin Powell

Another one that won’t go away.

Feedie on October 17, 2008 at 10:02 PM

You wonder why people like him even give an endorsement – how many more votes would either candidate pick up because of him? Did Bush get more black voters because of Powell as Sec of State?

albill on October 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM

Good points. Powell won’t bring any votes over to BHO since people who admired Powell were probably going to vote for The One anyway. In fact, it might just infuriate the GOP and give us more adrenaline to go out and support McCain. Powell never gave me any impression of having a great intellect. He strictly was at best a Rockefeller type of Republican and his actions in the Libby Affair showed that he was not(alas) a man of great honor. Why Bush was so loyal to mediocrities and incompetents such as Powell, Rice, McClellan, Tenet, Miers, Brown, et al is beyond me – something a good psychiatrist may one day decipher.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:06 PM

What makes him a hero?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Political correctness.

progressoverpeace on October 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Audie Murphy was a hero, John McCain was a hero, Jimmy Stewart was a hero, even George McGovern was a hero, not Colin Powell.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Meh.

Powell fell out of favor with conservatives long before Obama became a going concern.

The Ugly American on October 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I might get banned but I will say what everyone here must be thinking

“What at treacherous, ungrateful, prick!”

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

No, maybe a racist prick though. It does work both ways.

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM

What makes him a hero?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM

What makes him a traitor?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Hmm. Lots of endorsements today.

WAPO NYTimes Etc.

Powell might be the icing on the cake this weekend.

Wouldn’t be overly surprised if it was coordinated like that.

lorien1973 on October 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM

his actions in the Libby Affair showed that he was not(alas) a man of great honor.

It’s one thing to be miffed at the Bush Administration; it’s another to leave a man twisting in the wind until his life is ruined. They’re all guilty of that; what a bunch of skanks.

Feedie on October 17, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Can we hold fire until he’s done it already? Sheesh.

Fortunata on October 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM

thank you

We’ll see if Powell endorses anyone. Until then, its all conjecture.

southsideironworks on October 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM

And thank you.

I hate this thread. I am reading such disgusting reactionary poisonous crap from people I usually like reading. Decent people, get a grip on yourselves.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

I have been disappointed on numerous occasions during this hell that has been Election 2008. But I cannot think of a single event that has upset me to this degree.
I have always respected Gen. Powell because he served. He served his country. Not party, country. In fact, I served under him. I knew General Powell. He never really supported a party. But now he jumps on the Party of O bandwagon. Such courage.
He has made his millions, he has his books, he has his non-prof, now he needs to fix the Uncle Tom to the Right category that the left has always put him in.
He also has known John McCain for a very long time. Worked with him. If he ever had issues with the man, he had plenty of opportunity to distance himself from him. But he didn’t do that. Until now.
If he does this, he is a sellout. Just like so many others that have come out recently (or when McCain starts to get a little too up in the polls). Something else to knock him back down into where he belongs.
It’s a little ironic that it is very similar to how McCain got the nomination in the first place. Every time another republican got a little close some bonehead would step up to make an announcement of support for McCain. Like every republican Florida politician did the night before the Florida primary. They sold out then and helped cause this nightmare in the making. Thank goodness Romney didn’t get the nod. Whew, we would be way down with the economy being the only issue. We would have had a hell of a lot more ammo than Joe the plumberwanna-be plumber.
I would say something about chickens coming home to roost but it’s already been said. And I am probably just showing my racist convictions again anyway so does it really matter?
So, sleep well General. The nation that you served your entire life defending and willing to die for, and watching others die for – will never be the same. Don’t worry, you got yours.

JeffinOrlando on October 17, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Audie Murphy was a hero, John McCain was a hero, Jimmy Stewart was a hero, even George McGovern was a hero, not Colin Powell.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Care to explain why each was a hero, and what Powell did or didn’t do to not be one?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM

get a grip on yourselves.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Show me a sane man and I will cure him.

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 10:20 PM

I might get banned but I will say what everyone here must be thinking

“What at treacherous, ungrateful, prick!”

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen were treacherous, ungrateful pricks; you need to learn to distinguish disagreement from treason.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM

I hate this thread. I am reading such disgusting reactionary poisonous crap from people I usually like reading. Decent people, get a grip on yourselves.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Yeah, kinda sounds like when everyone tore Huck apart. Which side were you on then?

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Show me a sane man and I will cure him.

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 10:20 PM

I don’t know any in person or by reputation, so your little “cures” are just a stinking emanation from a gaming mind.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Yeah, kinda sounds like when everyone tore Huck apart. Which side were you on then?

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM

I was on the side of the squirrels.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM

I hate this thread. I am reading such disgusting reactionary poisonous crap from people I usually like reading. Decent people, get a grip on yourselves.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:16 PM

If saying that Colin Powell was a disloyal, overrated, mediocrity is reactionary – then any truth telling is reactionary. I would not care for Powell even if he did endorse McCain. His actions (lack of actions actually) in the Plame/Libby/Armitage affair shows him to be a hack.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM

If saying that Colin Powell was a disloyal, overrated, mediocrity is reactionary – then any truth telling is reactionary. I would not care for Powell even if he did endorse McCain. His actions (lack of actions actually) in the Plame/Libby/Armitage affair shows him to be a hack.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM

This may have answer your question:

“What at treacherous, ungrateful, prick!”

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Sound familiar?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Care to explain why each was a hero, and what Powell did or didn’t do to not be one?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Powell, as far as I have ever heard, never personally saw enough combat to be a military hero, by traditional standards anyway, not by the bizarre standard that some have today that everyone in the military is a hero. He is, of course, not a traitor either. BTW, his nickname at the Pentagon was The Perfumed Prince. It was not a compliment.

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM

I was on the side of the squirrels.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM

+5, lol.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen were treacherous, ungrateful pricks; you need to learn to distinguish disagreement from treason.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Treacherous to the people who gave him his exalted (and undeserved position. Let us not parse words. I am in a red hot anger over Powell. My feelings about Powell are the same as my feelings about Scott McClelllan, heather MacDonald, Kathleen Parker, George Will, Christopher Buckley, and Chuck Hagel.
Aldridge Ames and Robert Hanssen did it purely for money. The Rosenberg’s did it for ideology.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM

bloods thicker than water.

redrock on October 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Audie Murphy was a hero, John McCain was a hero, Jimmy Stewart was a hero, even George McGovern was a hero, not Colin Powell.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Care to explain why each was a hero, and what Powell did or didn’t do to not be one?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM

If you think that Powell is in the same category as Murphy, McCain, Stewart and even that later Marxist fellow traveller McGovern then there is not much I can do.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:32 PM

I was on the side of the squirrels.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Heh…that kinda says it all.

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:33 PM

I am in a red hot anger over Powell. My feelings about Powell are the same as my feelings about Scott McClelllan, heather MacDonald, Kathleen Parker, George Will, Christopher Buckley, and Chuck Hagel.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM

The guy HASN’T MADE THE ENDORSEMENT YET. Can’t you reserve your ire for a thread if he does? Here you are shooting your wad on conjecture. What the hell is wrong with you. I swear to Dog, if he endorses Obama and I see your pathetic little rants on that thread, I will crucify you.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Boy, Chris Matthews will be jerking off that leg with this thrill going up it.

John Doe on October 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Then blame Allah for even putting it up. WTF are we arguing about then? Do you remember the original SNL? If so, you will appreciate this: I feel like such a clone.

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Or was that cone?

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM

I don’t know any in person or by reputation, so your little “cures” are just a stinking emanation from a gaming mind.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:24 PM

A stinking emanation from the gutter
By a gaming mind from the street?

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Powell served honorably in Vietnam and was decorated for bravery for personally saving 5 or 6 soldiers from a burning chopper. He has continued to serve his country honorably and ably in the Reagan and GHWB administrations, during Desert Storm and through other conflicts. He is as much a hero as Eisenhower – while both had to deal directly with politicians and win a war, both did so successfully.

In my eyes, a pretty damn-straight hero.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM

There ain’t no way Powell is going on MTP to endorse McCain. NBC wouldn’t give him the time of day if he was.

John Doe on October 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM

I will crucify you.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM

God, can you not feel the terror like a fire in the air?
Flash, slash!
Glisten and gash!

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Never, ever liked him, even when he was the toast of the town. My instincts were correct.

Buy Danish on October 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM

I saw him speak at a function in the mid-90s, and at the time I thought he would hands-down be the first Black President. I would’ve voted for him whole-heartedly.

Now? Not so much.

techno_barbarian on October 17, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Aldridge Ames and Robert Hanssen did it purely for money. The Rosenberg’s did it for ideology.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM

I understand your sense of political betrayal, but don’t equate that with what real traitors do, regardless of their motivations.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

The guy HASN’T MADE THE ENDORSEMENT YET. Can’t you reserve your ire for a thread if he does? Here you are shooting your wad on conjecture. What the hell is wrong with you. I swear to Dog, if he endorses Obama and I see your pathetic little rants on that thread, I will crucify you.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM

First off this thread is about a report (somewhat credible) that he will and I am basing my “rants” on that report. Second – I am not afraid of your threats of crucifixion (a foolish term if there ever was one) Third – even if he does not endorse Obama I can’t stand the man and I cannot stand his predecessor Condi Clueless Rice. (As a matter of fact we have not had a decent Sec. of State since George Schultz).They are the very essence of RINOism.
By the way what was his sons qualifications to run the FCC?
Another example of Powell’s lack of gratitude. Yes he is not a Benedict Arnold (although Arnold was a better military man than Powell), Julius Rosenberg or John Walker we’ve established that.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

I will crucify you.

RushBaby on October 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM

God, can you not feel the terror like a fire in the air?
Flash, slash!
Glisten and gash!

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Yeah I know, I hope I can hang on a St. Andrew’s cross, probably more comfortable. Please no scourging – a nasty procedure and ropes, not nails.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM

I sat through a speach given by Mrs. Powell in which she attempted to address the issue of high school drop out rates by insisting on more government, more sex ed, etc. No mention of strengthening the family, strenthening marriage, abstenance teaching, self confidence building, personal responsibility, etc. I knew then who the Powell family would be voting for. Not to mention that this was a Catholic conference and multiple speakers said things like ‘we are the people we’ve been waiting for’ and ‘hope and change’ over and over. Some use the poor and vulnerable to serve their ideologies. Instead, they should be serving the poor and vulnerable through a productive, efficiant, and ethical manner. p.s. I’m Catholic and call on my fellow Catholics to stand up to those in our faith that are distorting it.

toleratethis on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM

was decorated for bravery for personally saving 5 or 6 soldiers from a burning chopper.

I never heard that one before.

He is as much a hero as Eisenhower

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM

That is beyond a big stretch.

Myself, I neither praise nor condemn him.

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM

My dog had a really bad case of Colon Powell.
The vet gave him some laxatives and the next day he Barracked a huge pile of Obama out in the front yard. My Mailman (whose a union-lib DemoKrat) slipped in it and fell on his ass.

I laughed out loud.

FiveWays on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM

I understand your sense of political betrayal, but don’t equate that with what real traitors do, regardless of their motivations.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

OK you win. He was a back stabbing, ungrateful, SOB – is that better?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM

He is as much a hero as Eisenhower

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM

That is beyond a big stretch.

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Why? I gather we may not have the same ‘definition’ of military hero (if there is one), but why a stretch?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Powell’s mind and the minds of 95% of blacks in the US were made up the moment they saw that dark skin on Young Barry. Yet they all pretend to have gone through some involved, intellectual process of choosing their candidate. Push D button for brown guy. Major intellectual decision.

UnEasyRider on October 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

OK you win. He was a back stabbing, ungrateful, SOB – is that better?

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Much. Sorry to harp on it, so many others on this thread have demonized Powell as an actual traitor, and it got my locks a flaming.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM

According to wikipedia (Not always the most reliable source) this was what happened to Powell in Vietnam

While on patrol in a Viet Cong-held area, he was wounded after stepping on a punji stake trap.[4]

No mention of the burning helicopter. If being under fire makes one a hero, then my father (who was under fire at Anzio) was a hero.

No doubt Powell served honorably in Vietnam but so did at least 2 million other Americans.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM

If Powell does endorse Obama it will only be marking himself. Is he who he says he is? Sunday will tell, won’t it.

ilitigant on October 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM

I will never forgive Colin Powell for betraying our country. He remained silent when he KNEW Armitage was the leak. Armitage is a blowhard, he couldn’t help himself. Powell allowed the White House to be attacked and smeared and maligned in a time of war when he knew the truth.

JustTruth101 on October 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Why? I gather we may not have the same ‘definition’ of military hero (if there is one), but why a stretch?

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

WWII v. Dessert Storm? You have got to be kidding me.

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM

No mention of the burning helicopter. If being under fire makes one a hero, then my father (who was under fire at Anzio) was a hero.

No doubt Powell served honorably in Vietnam but so did at least 2 million other Americans.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM

You’ll have to read down a little further in the wiki.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM

UnEasyRider on October 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

ooooohhhhh, you is in trouble. You’re correct, but you are not in line with the PC police here.

R D on October 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM

WWII v. Dessert Storm? You have got to be kidding me.

MB4 on October 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Dessert Storm? Anything like Pastry War?

Yes, why not? WWII lasted as long as it did because 1) it involved so many more countries, and 2) the technology was not available to allow a shorter conflict. BTW, Eisenhower didn’t win WWII, the Western Allies had a significant role, but the Russkies did the real work.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Much. Sorry to harp on it, so many others on this thread have demonized Powell as an actual traitor, and it got my locks a flaming.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Its just a parlour game
Don’t dress yourselves in a wreath of flame

Tav on October 17, 2008 at 11:01 PM

UnEasyRider on October 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Truer words have rarely been spoken.

FiveWays on October 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM

If being under fire makes one a hero, then my father (who was under fire at Anzio) was a hero.

No doubt Powell served honorably in Vietnam but so did at least 2 million other Americans.

Hilts on October 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM

My dad served in submarines, and my uncle landed at Normandy, anonymously, but they are heroes anyway. Your father was as well. The question is not one of kind, but of degree.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM

but the Russkies did the real work.

trailboss on October 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM

I guess Patton’s boys were just on a Boy Scout camping trip……….

FiveWays on October 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM

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