Guess who else has tax liens?
posted at 8:30 am on October 17, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Yesterday, the Tanning Bed Media discovered unpaid tax liens against Joe Wurzelbacher. Two days ago, we would have said, “Who?” He’s better known this week as Joe the Plumber after his impromptu dialogue with Barack Obama produced a blatantly redistributionist answer from the Democratic presidential candidate.
In their haste to pillory Joe for the audacity of asking a tough question of Obama, the Tanning Bed Media missed a couple of other interesting tax liens. Patterico does the work of the TBM:
Oh — I almost forgot to mention: Martin Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign, has tax liens. So do his companies.
You’d think that matters more than the tax liens of Joe the Plumber, wouldn’t you? But good luck finding a Big Media story about Nesbitt’s liens.
If tax liens are such an indicator of character and trustworthiness, wouldn’t it have more significance for the treasurer of a presidential campaign than for a man who just asked a question of the candidate? If the national media has such an interest in investigating a plumber who made a couple of national appearances, why wouldn’t they have at least the same interest in the people running a major party presidential campaign? Of course not. The same people who instruct us that Barack Obama’s 20-year membership in Jeremiah Wright’s church while Wright called 9/11 “chickens coming home to roost” now interrogate Joe the Plumber on national TV about his brief flirtation with the Natural Law Party.
Because, you know, associations matter when choosing a plumber, but apparently not when choosing a President.
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Joe the Plumber for VP!
Senator Government FTW!
Neo on October 17, 2008 at 8:31 AM
The First Ammendment is being abused in the favor of destroying democracy and the integrity of this election and more than likely future elections. This is an absolute disgrace.
theguardianii on October 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Joe will be fine. He isn’t a whiner and he has people like us on his side.
God bless Joe.
pugwriter on October 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM
See Anderson Cooper? He reeled off this list of Joe smears like it was the worst thing he’d ever heard of.
lodge on October 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM
I got a guy coming in today to grout my tile. Now I am going to have to quiz him over whether he has any tax liens or ever belonged to the Libertarian Party…
Can’t have a PaulNut installing my tile, can I?
gridlock2 on October 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM
Cooper’s just testy b/c Joe won’t check out his plumbing.
Yes, that meant what you think it meant.
splink on October 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM
The jerks in the MSM and the Obama campaign are going to get in a big shock come Nov. 4 when Americans are going to be fed up with this hammering on an average citizen and police state mentality.
LEAVE JOE ALONE!
jencab on October 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM
How dare anyone question the media’s anointed!
NoDonkey on October 17, 2008 at 8:44 AM
On F&F this morning Geraldo begged Sen. McCain to stop the Bill Ayers attacks because everyone has bad associates and not two minutes later, when asked about the media scrutiny of Joe the Plumber said, “what did he expect”. Irony or am I just being oversensitive?
Cindy Munford on October 17, 2008 at 8:45 AM
It’s called desperation. ObamaTitanic is sinking and there is nothing they can do to stop it. Expect the desperation to increase in scope and intensity as we draw closer to October 29.
ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 8:46 AM
Irony, Miss Cindy.
ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 8:47 AM
Tax liens don’t matter.
And yes, this guy is getting more attention that he deserves. But McCain is a big part of that. For better or worse, he’s become part of this election, mostly at the doing of Camp McCain.
As far as the media goes, I think it’s acceptable that they look into any public records on him since he has become a touchstone in this campaign.
But, the thing that REALLY matters about Joe the Plumber is that Obama’s tax plan would lower taxes for him, even if he bought the 280,000 business he asked Obama about.
So no, John McCain, Obama will not be raising Joe the Plumbers taxes. Now let’s leave the guy alone.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 8:51 AM
And in my opinion no matter who wins it is the end of the MSM.
jmarcure on October 17, 2008 at 8:51 AM
“Getting” Joe the Plumber isn’t what is important to them… it’s sending the message to everyone else what happens to you if you speak out. Coming soon… a big letter R that must be on all of our clothing… all our names will be required to be changed… men’s names will have to have “Ronnie” somewhere in them and women will require a name of “Sarah” contained in them. Then loss of property rights. Followed by re-education camps.
Look forward to the good part. If you’ve seen the video from the former KGB guy saying those are the first people to be lined up and shot, we can have the joy of helping carry their ammunition…
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Freedom of speech is ok if you’re a socialist, but you better be very careful what you say if you’re not a socialist. You will be investigated and woe to you if you got a DUI 25 years ago. It should be a lot of fun with the socialist/fascist completely in charge starting next year.
WildBillK on October 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Joe the Plumber’s treatment tells me that under Obama-Reid-Pelosi there’s an inquisition coming. The “progressive” inquisition.
petefrt on October 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM
“Joe the Plumber” is EVERYMAN who Blowhard “O’Reilly” claims to speak for. But yesterday (to Laura Ingraham’s justifiable outrage) he smugly dismissed him and it was Obama who was the “stand-up, unfront guy”. He then proceeded with his DailyKOS and ACORN stories on outrageous defamation and voter fraud. I’m telling you, O’Reilly is planning a big publicity stunt “endorsement” that I hope ends his career on Fox News.
Marcus on October 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM
And in my opinion Rush will be it’s first victim. They can not allow people like Rush, Coulter or MM to remain free.
jmarcure on October 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM
This is why I don’t like early voting, lots can happen in the last couple of weeks. Early voting started here in NC yesterday and there where 10 times more people voting than last year, with Obama up in the polls in the NC. If we lose NC we are toast, because Virginia appears to be gone with over 8% advantage to Obama in the RCP averages.
Early voting also gives ACORN an extra month to cheat.
neuquenguy on October 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM
If the liberals ever turn to violence instead of trying to simply ruin people professionally and financially, it should be interesting since they appear to be getting more ruthless and more desperate.
Joe is about as average American, hard working guy trying to realize the American dream as it gets. He has a few things working against him:
1) He dared contradict “O”
2) He’s white
3) He’s legal
4) Other hard working people trying to realize the American dream can relate.
5) Biden doesn’t know him personally (doesn’t eat at Cathy’s)
Take note that this is what is happening to the rest of us if Der Obama ever gets elected.
Vote!
Hening on October 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM
Obama as Robespierre, sending conservatives to the guillotine.
The Left has
snickelfritz on October 17, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Democrat party IS the party of Silencing Dissent.
marklmail on October 17, 2008 at 8:56 AM
I have to believe that these attacks on Joe the plumber are going to backfire in a big way on both the MSM and the Obamabots. It’s one thing to attempt to destroy Sarah Palin, who is a public figure who voluntarily entered the political arena. It’s quite another thing to attack some guy who was just tossing a football with his son in his front yard when Obama sauntered up for a photo op with a working class prole.
rsrobinson on October 17, 2008 at 8:56 AM
As I was saying, The Left has screeched about fascism for years and, given a chance, will be the greatest practitioners of it with a new Reign of Terror.
snickelfritz on October 17, 2008 at 8:57 AM
It’s quite another thing to attack some guy who was just tossing a football with his son in his front yard when Obama sauntered up for a photo op with a working class prole.
If you’re of this opinion, that Joe didn’t deserve to be thrust into the spotlight like this, then you should put equal — if not more — blame on McCain who made him the centerpiece of the debate on Wednesday.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 8:59 AM
You are:
1) Incorrect JtP will face AMT, SE Tax, and through both a reduction in refundable credits which IS Bambi’s whole “tax cut”.
2) a hypocrit your kind never seem to find the paucity in the Moonbat Media pursuing your operatives with quite the same zeal they do ours or further our mere voters to be a tad “odd”…
3) a doofus…”move on”….
sven10077 on October 17, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Actually, no. Joe’s taxes would go up under Obama’s plan and the rate would increase as Joe’s business prospered, since he would be part of the ever decreasing percentage of the population that actually PAYS income taxes.
But all of this is academic, insofar as McCain will be our next president.
ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 9:00 AM
Well Tom your pals over at HuffPo and the DailyKOOK were publishing the guy’s addy and doiung a rectal exam before his GMA appearence so “he asked for it” kind of falls flat….
Tom I know you are a moonbat so I am going to type slowly for your benefit:
It…..
Is NOT…..
YOUR money.
sven10077 on October 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM
No need to believe it. Know it for a fact. The backlash is already growing and will gain momentum going into next week. Joe the Plumber is the iceberg to Obama’s Titanic and the damage has been done.
ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Awwww, there ain’t nothing like watching the Media circle like sharks around some guy who happened to ask a question of Obama. It certainly isn’t JTP’s fault that Obama can’t answer a question like that without “redistribution of wealth” involved in the answer.
But more importantly: Where does Sarah Palin buy groceries for her alleged children? Safeway or Albertsons? If Safeway, it means she’s probably a bitch. If Albertsons, then she’s a tax thief.
P.S. How about Rev. Wright? Or Ayers? Or Rezko?
mjk on October 17, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Please let it be so.
jmarcure on October 17, 2008 at 9:05 AM
If I were McCain, I would make sure I talked about how Obama and the press is trying to destroy Joe the plumber, and that’s what people could epect from Obama.
drjohn on October 17, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Nice alternative universe…. it is McCain’s fault that YOUR PARTY has chosen to destroy a working class man for daring to disagree with Senator Barack Hussein Obama…. I’ll hold my tongue on the rest….
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 17, 2008 at 9:06 AM
AMAZEING,’Joe the Plumber’ is middle class,
gawd help those who are the poor,
the way Obama is treating Middle Class Joe,
wait till you see how,and what happens to
the poor!!!
canopfor on October 17, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Yes, Rush is at the top of their list, but hopefully not their first victim. I’m confident Rush is preparing for the fight, and this fight will be historic. If anyone can beat them, it’s Rush. But I worry that if Rush falls, the rest of us will go down like dominoes.
What I see ahead makes McCarthyism look like child’s play.
petefrt on October 17, 2008 at 9:07 AM
The Ballad of Joe the Plumber
(to the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band’s arrangement of “Some of Shelley’s Blues” written by former Monkee Michael Nesmith)
They tell me
He understands the stuff that motivates me
He’ll fix the hole that’s in my soul and sell me
That he can spend my money better than me
They said
That by guns and Bibles my life is led
It’s bitterness that drives what’s all inside of my head
And that by his elite snobs I should be led
As far as I can see, it’s a pile of cow manure
This ol’ false messiah should be flushed right down the sewer
And we’ll lose
He’s never walked in Joe the Plumber’s shoes
If he gets in charge, there’s nothing for us but bad news
I won’t be fooled, my friends, and neither should you
either orr on October 17, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Part of the story here is that the MSM know how fragile the Obama myth is. If they were confident at all in their guy, they’d do the occasional “expose” to appear to be fair. But there is just too much crap and too many scary things about Obama. They are terrified of this thing unraveling on them in the last 2 1/2 weeks.
I only hope JTP gets pissed off enough to go to a McCain rally and tell the crowd about the intrusion on his life by the MSM and moonbats ever since he had the gall to question, “The One.”
And yes, I ordered an “I am Joe the Plumber” shirt yesterday.
Sugar Land on October 17, 2008 at 9:09 AM
What sick, under-the-rock-crawly creature ilk from you to make a moral equivilance to blame McCain for the media’s feckless anal exam. I’d think you’d be more concerned about vetting a man potentionally who will have his finger on the nuclear button. But you are too much of a mindless moron to see that.
wepeople on October 17, 2008 at 9:09 AM
Sven10077,
First off, Joe himself admits he would receive a tax cut under Obama’s proposal:
So today, Joe, who said he makes much less than $250,000, reluctantly admitted Obama would lower his taxes.
“I would, if you believe him, I would be receiving his tax cuts,” Wurzelbacher said.
Now, I’m not quite sure what you’re saying in that he’ll face an AMT and SE. Is he not a small business owner now? If so, he’s face those under both Obama and McCain, except under Obama he would receive a tax reduction on his income.
If he already is a small business owner, then he has to pay AMT and SE tax any way, but would still see a reduction in his income tax under Obama.
So, yes, Obama will cut his taxes.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Commie Tommie Shipley got his talking points memo again this morning, I see.
either orr on October 17, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Someone needs to ask Obama on camera this question: “Would you allow William Ayers and his wife to babysit your kids”
jp on October 17, 2008 at 9:10 AM
seems like a perfect time to pick apart Obama’s tax plan and show how the middle class will not be getting any ‘tax cut’ under the messiah
jp on October 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM
The Caring and Compassionate Left,
Champions,of the middle class,the poor,
the downtrotten,the little guy!
Liberals—————————Wake up,
your party,with Obama at the helm,is soooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
far left,you can stand in Florida,and be able
to shake hands in USSR!
OH WAIT!
Maybe thats the PLAN!EH!
canopfor on October 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM
I didn’t say he didn’t deserve to be thrust in the public spotlight. I said he didn’t deserve to be attacked. He asked His Highness a perfectly legit question and the purpose of the smear campaign against him now is to deflect attention from Obama’s response. What this is doing, though, is keeping that response in the news while at the same time pissing off people who don’t like seeing a working class guy smeared simply for daring to question The One’s tax plan. It’s a thunderingly stupid thing to do but the MSM and the Obamabots can’t help themselves.
rsrobinson on October 17, 2008 at 9:13 AM
So, wait, are you guys saying that members of the media are peering into this guys kitchen to note what kind of counter tops he has and going to his place of business to interview co-workers?
If so, that is kind of sick.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM
I do it for a living Tom thanks. Bambi pretends it is hard for a plumbing business to break 250,000 in gross receipts….”not true”. Bambi is delivering a “cut” to “the little people” through changing portions of heretofore nonrefundable credits into refundable ones. Self-employment tax draws you away from the threshholds needed to flip the credits. The AMT kicks in because the donks have thwarted every effort to fix a “needed tool” that was initially designed to get 300 people that ironically Teddy K thought “paid too little”.
Every deduction he uses to try to draw down his gross to a better net to grab the Bambi bucks will increase his risk of falling prey to the AMT which will nuke the refundability of the credits.
but please do go on….
sven10077 on October 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM
So to continue with Joe’s position… Senator Barack Hussein Obama DOES plan to PUNISH achievement and redistribute wealth. Socialism in it’s purest form. Obama is just like a cockroach, scurries for cover when light is shined on it… can’t stand the truth.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM
If the MSM will do what they are doing to Joe the Plumber, just think what they will do when “The One” is anointed. HotAir will have to go underground.
d1carter on October 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM
sven10077 on October 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Sure, it’s possible for a plumber to make $250,000 a year, but how many do?
McCain is saying Obama’s plan would raise this guy’s taxes — which, if we’re to belief Joe the Plumber that he makes much LESS than $250,000 a year — is just wrong.
Now Sven, you’re claiming that Obama’s by using refundable tax credits, Joe will be at an increase risk of the ATM. IF that’s true, I’d like to hear more as to why.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM
He’s a private citizen. He’s not running for office, he’s not a professional celebrity, he’s just your average Joe who wanted to ask a presidential candidate a question on his policies. He’s getting berated and his personal privacy violated by the media and to Obamazombies. Is this the kind of world we live in now? I know he does give some of it up when he agreed to go on TV and do the interviews, however, he’s still a private citizen. Is more of this what we have to look forward to? Are we all at risk now of this kind of treatment? Will they go after conservative bloggers in this fashion soon? or anyone who has questions or dissenting opinions?
Tuari on October 17, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Obama’s treasurer doesn’t know how to manage money?
So that’s why BO’s spent $500,000,000 & he’s only up 49 to 47% among likelies.
jgapinoy on October 17, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Obama Gestapo tactics.
If you criticize the One, the Obama Gestapo will come and get you. Terrorism of civilians for speaking their opinion.
(Isn’t this also how the ruling thugs in China, Russia, Venezuela, Iran oppress people…)
Change we have been waitng for.
albill on October 17, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Tom the BUSINESS can easily make 250,000 to support say 7 employees. Further you miss the nuance. Bambi bucks rely on the refundability of credits but the AMT rules interfere with credits because “you deducted too much”.
Small businessmen will be in the quandry of relying on eating valid business deductions to get refundable credits.
The entire system is and hasd been skewed for the last 32 years.
“Thanks Great Society”….
but not to worry if you are right about election day and I am wrong we’ll get LBJ and JEC’s bastard son to ram the metaphorical wienie up small business’ rears to “pay for the help”…..
Billy-Jeff raised taxes and forgot his middle class tax cut he promised after “I worked harder than ever before and stayed up real late but the money to buy the cuts just weren’t there.”
Bambi will have a similar speech so all this talk of the impact of AMT and such is likely academic.
P.S. even making a 100,000 AGI disqualifies you from EIC and CTC but again please do go on.
sven10077 on October 17, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 8:59 AM
No, the question nor the questioner aren’t the story. The “spread the wealth” answer is the story. You just want to deflect it because you know Sen. Obama regrets the outburst of honest socialism that he uttered. So erase the mistake by killing the messenger.
Cindy Munford on October 17, 2008 at 9:31 AM
I think that it is safe to say that after all is said and done, Joe wont have any liens against him. I think that if he benefits from all of these TV and Radio Appearances as well as T Shirt Sales supporting his mind set, he’ll be alright. Unless Barry sends him to the Gulag.
mindhacker on October 17, 2008 at 9:33 AM
‘Tanning Bed Media’ – very accurate.
But MSM for ‘Marxist Socialist Media’ may be more accurate.
Just say’n.
Josiah on October 17, 2008 at 9:34 AM
Perfectly stated!
Richard Romano on October 17, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Sven,
I have to admit I’m a little over my head on the specifics on the ATM and other tax code. So really don’t have the expertise to challenge your assertions. But, since you’ve shown yourself as a such a staunch partisan (which I myself will admit I am), I’m not going to take your word for it either.
So, when I have more time, I’ll try and educate myself more on the subject and see if I agree with what you’re saying.
Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 9:42 AM
You’re working on the pinko award. Joe said he doesn’t currently make $250K. He never disputed he would personally benefit from Senator Barack Hussein Obama’s tax plan. What he DID SAY was that in his view, it was punishing those that perform and that it was socialism. He was correct on both counts.
You may not grasp this concept yet, but welfare has no upward mobility. Working for a living, no matter what you choose to do, does make upward mobility possible. Open your pinko handbook to the chapter that covers things to avoid…. I’m sure upward mobility is covered there.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 17, 2008 at 9:47 AM
You moron. What is it you don’t get about the socialist concept of “spreading the wealth”? Maybe a douche like you doesn’t care because you live in your mom’s basement and are the recipient of Oslime-a’s socialist welfare.
Well up yours loser. Oslime-a doesn’t get to take money from me to give to your unproductive hog at the trough ass.
csdeven on October 17, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I don’t think Joe has to worry about his taxes going up. With the card check law that’s sure to go through, his shop will be unionized in a heartbeat, killing any profits he might ever hope to make.
JohnW on October 17, 2008 at 9:56 AM
This has me soo fired up!
And I agree about Bill O’Reilly…what is up with him? I am planning to stoop watching his since he is drinking the kool aid. He is acting like the MSM. Im glad Laura Ingraham gave it to him.
becki51758 on October 17, 2008 at 9:58 AM
MSM, Marxist Socialist Media.
Josiah on Oct 17,2008 at 9:34AM.
Josiah: Thats brilliant! Now trademark that phrase!!:)
canopfor on October 17, 2008 at 9:59 AM
The MSM attacks Joe The Plumber for taxes and licenses, but gives 30-million illegal aliens a pass! No wonder their ratings stink!
bucktowndusty on October 17, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Sven,
I have to admit I’m a
little over my head on the specifics on the ATM and other tax code.Socialist at heart, So really don’t have the expertise to challenge your assertions. But, since you’ve shown yourself as a such a staunchpartisanCAPITALIST that Obama plans to go after as a SOCIALIST(which I myself will admit I am),I’m not going to take your word for it either.your words certainly reveal the truth.So, when I have more time, I’ll try and
educate myselfget my BS talking points more on the subject and see ifI agree with what you’re saying.you’re gullible enough to buy this crap. Tom_Shipley on October 17, 2008 at 9:42 AMSven, You’re chooing on Tom’s tootsie roll—-how’s it taste?
Rovin on October 17, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Just a quick comment on the $250k nonsense because I haven’t mentioned it yet today: The Democrats tax plan as it currently exists will definitely raise taxes on all small businesses that operate of are taxed as S-Corps. The increase is in Rangel’s tax bill (HR3970)right now, and I’ve seen no indication that Obama opposes it. In fact, he talks about “closing loopholes for corporations” (hoping people will assume he’s talking about big businesses, which s-corps are not). Anyway, HR3970 will expand the application of “self-employment tax” to all s-corp income whether the S-corp makes $250,000 or not.
This will be a big tax increase on small business that few have yet noticed, but I have because it will cost me a bunch of money each year.
forest on October 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM
We have learned more about Joe the plumber in 24 hours than we have Barack Obama in 24 months.
Everyone should be chilled by this.
http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/10/17/joe-the-plumber-a-warning-to-all/
Virginia Shanahan on October 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Drink the Kool Aid, Tom.. drink..
There you go..
DaveC on October 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Really? Last I heard, Mr. Obama said this directly to Mr. Joe the Plumber’s face:
Tom, if I get what Mr. Obama’s saying right, he want to use the power of the government to take Joe the Plumber’s money and give it to someone else.
Obama’s plan would NOT lower taxes. He would increase taxes and offset them to select people in the form of grants and credits. It’s not even clear that Joe would qualify for these giveaways, much less the rest of us. After all, will Joe’s plumber truck qualify for Obama’s $7,000 yuppie credit for a clean air vehicle?
What it comes down to is that Obama showed his cards, and they were not cards the American people wanted him to show. Now the polls show a narrowing, where the trends previously had been a widening.
Americans, in their hearts, are not Liberals — they are Conservatives.
unclesmrgol on October 17, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Speaking of the “Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity,” (whatever the heck that means) I’ve personally had enough of his “analysis” and thoughts and commentary.
Just about any affinity I had for O’Reilly’s stances on anything have basically disappeared. His ego is out of control.
Fox News is almost unwatchable anymore. Just add them to the Mainstream Media column…
eanax on October 17, 2008 at 10:26 AM
In saying that “even JtP admits Obama’s plan would lower his taxes”, how is it you missed the little qualifying phrase, “if you believe him”, in the middle of Joe’s statement?
Michael Savage coined a great phrase to illustrate Obama’s tax plan, “Trickle-up Poverty”.
Jvette on October 17, 2008 at 10:31 AM
You know who else was asking for it, Tom? Them Jooooooos.
Their wealth got redistributed, too.
snickelfritz on October 17, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Just remember what then happened to Robespierre.
ssssshhhhh-THUNK!
splink on October 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Well, here’s some good news for the day. Back in mid August, Soros bought $811 million of Petrobras (PBR) around $50 a share….. it is trading around $25 today.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Just after THE MESSIAH revealed his 95% tax plan, several economically minded folks ran the numbers and found that the magic number is more like $105K was the rich line. On Rush yesterday a guy ran THE ONE’S plan and found he would have to pay in $4,000 more and he did NOT make $250K. Following this logic, Joe might be joined by quite a few more Americans in the lien grouping.
Americans are not going to like this digging into Joe’s private life. They have gone beyond just the tax lien thing and are now publishing his divorce record. Howard Wolfson was on Fox this a.m. prattling off the list of No-No’s that the Obama brownshirts have dug up on Joe. He even said McCain did not properly vet Joe! I firmly believe the Obama camp has crossed the smear and kill rubicon for the last time to the American public. I too smell a backlash on this one!
I am not quite as sold as Manly on a McCain win, but I am taking great comfort in Manly’s thinking, and the fact that Joe delivered to the common folks what Obama will give this country on every single issue. Joe might have just saved John’s bacon! You sort of want to tell the McCain camp to put Joe in because he pretty much sums all this mess up in 30 seconds!
Go Joe! May God keep you safe and blessed!
freeus on October 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I can’t find Obama’s plan for plumbers, but I found his plan for farmers. If the income from your farm exceeds $250,000 you are identified as a “large corporate agribusiness”!
Paging Joe the Farmer
Buy Danish on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Another unpleasant reminder: Obama won’t write tax legislation if he gets elected. Charlie Rangel will. So whatever Obama says now, what he will get is whatever Rangel writes and whatever the rest of the leftists add into it.
It’s not going to be pretty. My tax burden is already going to go up do to the expanded application of the self employment tax, and we haven’t even seen what else Pelosi and Reid and Co come up with yet.
forest on October 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I can’t believe how Obama’s treasurer can be so “unpatriotic” not paying his tax bills. You know what they say, “you are judged by the company you keep”
la.rt.wngr on October 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Translation: “Don’t call me. I’ll call you.”
Yoop on October 17, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Did Wolfson really blame McCain for not vetting Joe the Plumber? Good grief. I somebody has the video of that.
forest on October 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Translation: I don’t know what I am talking about but I am going to pretend I do anyway, and when someone who is smarter than me throws my ignorance in my face stick my fingers in my ears and repeat,“Hope and Change, Hope and Change” over and over so I can’t hear them.
See Tom this is why you shouldn’t rely on sound bites and talking points provided by your handlers, some people actually take a position based on principles supported by facts and figures rather than dreamy rhetoric and well choreographed stump speeches.
Ciannaky on October 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Yes, and Megyn Kelly lost it. She kept saying, SO WHAT?! The kicker is that she obviously doesn’t know (thanks to Patterico and Ed Morrissey) that Obama’s own treasurer has tax liens, as well as Bill Burton, his idiot campaign yap dog, and a host of other Obamatons.
Moreover (I’m not positive because I had it on but wasn’t actually watching it) I also believe that Wolfson tried to make a big deal out of the fact that his real name is “Sam”.
Buy Danish on October 17, 2008 at 11:31 AM
I hope someone got video. I love when Kelly chews out boneheads.
I think it shows what a low opinion most Democrat operatives have of ordinary people. Do they think we’re so stupid as to think it was McCain’s responsibility to vet “Sam the Plumber”, or that any of that other stuff about the guy even matters? What matters to me is Obama’s socialistic response.
Heh, I just overheard Palin on the TV say Obama sounded like a socialist when he answered the plumber.
forest on October 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Change we can hope for!
eforhan on October 17, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Yep! She finally called Obambi’s ideas ’socialist’!
FINALLY!
I agree with Manly. Obititanic is mortally wounded and taking on water fast. The death throes of his campaign will be nasty.
And just breaking, the Supreme Court just sided with the friggin’ dem on the 200K vote dispute.
Damnit. Two hundred thousand Obambi votes are going to be counted in Ohio. W won with something like 188K. Guess they decided to make damn sure Ohio goes for Obambi this election.
techno_barbarian on October 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM
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