What we can learn from the Joe the Plumber episode; Update: AOL Hot Seat Poll Added
posted at 11:05 pm on October 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Honestly, I’m rather surprised that Joe Wurzelbacher and his rope-line dialogue with Barack Obama has managed to stay in the news for as long as it has. I knew when I first heard the exchange that it went badly for Obama. I didn’t expect Joe the Plumber to be the main topic of the last presidential debate. And I certainly didn’t expect Obama supporters to keep the story alive by their rabid character assassination of a man who did nothing more than ask a question — at random.
Now, we have people crawling over his tax records, his voter registration, his professional licensing, and whatever else they can find in the public record. Someone has linked him to the long-deceased Charles Keating, suggesting that somehow Obama managed to pick a McCain plant out of a ropeline full of people by accident. How much longer before a certain blogger at The Atlantic demands a paternity test to see if Joe the Plumber fathered Sarah Palin’s baby — or Bristol’s, for that matter?
There is a stench of desperation surrounding this, as if they sense defeat coming from a moment of honesty from Obama about his real intentions to institute a regime of redistribution. They want to discredit the man who only asked the question as if he’s some political operative who magically forced Obama to sound … well, a little like a Marxist. Why? They want to distract people from Obama’s answer by sliming the man Obama picked at random to ask a question.
And where’s the Tanning Bed Media on this topic? Danny Glover lays it out:
Jonathan Martin of The Politico was among the first out of the gate, with blog posts noting that Wurzelbacher, affectionately known by most of America as “Joe The Plumber,” has a tax lien against him and doesn’t have a plumber’s license. Martin conveniently forgot to mention that the law doesn’t require one.) Bloomberg also has a story on the tax lien, and AP and The Washington Post did their part to make a story out of the “unlicensed” non-story.
Expect more of the same over coming days. In fact, don’t be surprised if all of those investigative reporters sent to Alaska after John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate suddenly get reassigned to the plumber beat in flyover country. Joe The Plumber must be discredited at all costs! …
But why is it that political reporters only get curious when a conservative Joe America storms onto the scene? Why aren’t they just as curious when liberals trot out, say, a 12-year-old boy to give a national radio address?
It has been almost a year to the day since journalists dropped the ball on telling America more about Graeme Frost, the boy who made the case for sinking billions of dollars more into the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. But when Michelle Malkin and other curious conservative bloggers did the legwork the press wouldn’t, they earned the scorn of their mainstream colleagues.
Indeed. And Joe Wurzelbacher didn’t give a speech or make a commercial. He asked a question. He stood on a rope line, and Obama picked him to ask it. The Tanning-Bed Media seems to feel that they have a duty to expose every last part of Wurzelbacher’s life, but that asking Obama to explain his political partnerships with Tony Rezko and William Ayers, and his long friendship and financial support of rabid demagogues Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger, are not just out of bounds but downright racist.
So what have we learned from this episode?
- Thou shalt not offend The One by asking him a question. Of any kind.
- Anyone who questions The One will have to undergo a public pillorying of a kind unseen since the Red Scare, or perhaps the Inquisition.
- The Tanning-Bed Media will happily participate in any inquisition, as long as it keeps them from investigating irrelevant issues like Obama’s ties to the Chicago Machine, William Ayers, ACORN, or his record on protecting infanticide.
Don’t ask questions. Don’t check the records of people running for political office, but do check the records of those who dare violate Rule #1. No dissent will be tolerated. Our political and media masters have spoken.
I only ask one favor of the Left and the media: please keep this story alive for another three weeks. I can’t wait to read Michelle’s column tomorrow.
Update & Bump: I’ve added the AOL Hot Seat Poll to this post, and bumped it to keep in near the top for today’s Top Picks.
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Don’t flatter yerself, Nancy. The only intelligence you’ve shown is the ability to copy and paste.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Bambi with fists in his dumbo-arsed ears….
“lalalalala NO GUILT BY ASSOCIATION!”
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I’m sure e-parrot would love to pay Joe for what ever’s leaking out of his orfices.
Rovin on October 16, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Look forward to Obama camp to trot out “Suzi the Waitress” ad soon.
You know, the made-up waitress in Obama’s fairy tales.
Sir Napsalot on October 16, 2008 at 8:24 PM
You mean sort of like not having a copy of your true birth certificate on record even though it is required by law to even run for PotUS???
Yeah something like that….
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:24 PM
He’s an apprentice plumber… and from what I read earlier its normaly 5 years MINIMUM to become licensed. Until then, you work under a Master or Journeyman plumber.
Romeo13 on October 16, 2008 at 8:24 PM
GrowFins:
I don’t know and I don’t care if they made it up or not. He asked a simple question. Why does that suddenly mean he has news media up his ass? Since when? People have been talking to candidates for ever without worrying about being fired because some idiot reporter could not mind his own damn business.
To this day, Barack Obama has not answered a lot of questions put to him by the press and that is all right. After all he is only running for president.
Let this be a lesson to anyone caught on camera asking Obama a question. They might end up with people interviewing their ex.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Joe the Plumber will be remembered as the slow-bleeding wound that killed Obama’s campaign. I always determine how bad a hit is to a liberal by how viscous/vacuous/hypocritical their response is to a person or event that goes against their world view. Joe’s questioning Obama about the American Dream apparently was a true act of heroism. Should McCain win in November, and we avert the socialism that would be the Obama/Pelosi administration, I plan to send Joe some money to but that business and will encourage others to do the same.
The legacy media has reached a new level of shameful behavior.
Mutnodjmet on October 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM
You have recourse if a plumber makes contaminated wells etc. That’s silly argument, that somehow permits make everything perfect.
When I got a permit for my business I just plunked down the money and got a piece of paper that made my business legal. That’s just a bribe to the government in essence. Soaking the self-starting.
Spirit of 1776 on October 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM
I dunno. They’ve gotten away with this type of behavior with the aid of the msm for so long they think it is the norm. My god, obama and biden have been misrepresenting what he said about the 250k all day and the msm does not correct them.
Blake on October 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Yeah. The dummy should have known better than to live on a street that Obama might stroll down, camera crew in tow…
Joe’s licensing issues wouldn’t have even made the small-print section on the last page of the local paper if B. Obeyme had walked through a different neighborhood. But now it is The Big Issue.
Hey MSM, isn’t there, like, and economic crisis to b!tch about?
innominatus on October 16, 2008 at 8:26 PM
This “Joe the Plumber” crusade has infuriated me to no end.
The media deigns to address the background and records of a private citizen but leaves Obama’s relations to:
- Rezko.
- Ayers.
- Auchi.
- Wright.
- ACORN.
- The Electoral Welfare he received in Michigan.
- Dem. Primary Caucus Fraud.
- And so much more…
…completely and totally untouched.
The MSM wouldn’t stop screaming about Hillary and Tuzla “sniper fire” for weeks, but when Biden does the same re: Afghanistan? Nary a peep.
Hillary was railroaded for her AUMF vote, but Biden has the same vote — nada. They’ve always been in the O-Tank, and not just against Republicans.
And now we must tar and feather a private citizen for asking a question. “He’s a corrupt Republican!” It’s the same thing we PUMAs heard about being nothing more than “Vagina Voters” at best or “Republican plants” at (not quite so) worst.
It’s absolutely sick and terrifying. No matter my complete outrage over the character attacks/smears upon Democratic women such as Ferraro and Hillary — or my doubled outrage over the “Tanning Bed” media attacks/smears of all things Palin and her family — this character assassionation and smearing of a private citizen that only asked a question of Obama set me on literal fire.
It’s so disgusting it hurts. I still want a damn response by Obama on why such a “Messiah” would accept stealing my Michigan vote for Clinton by taking four delegates from her based on “exit polls.”
Let’s stop asking about Joe Six-Pack or Joe the Plumber’s record, and let’s start asking Obama of his.
As Obama himself said to trounce Clinton in one of many debates:
“It’s one thing to be ready on day one, but it’s another to be right on day one.”
Nothing coming from Obama or his sniveling surrogates make me feel he is right in any way. shape. or form.
Johnny Mac and Sara’Cuda: fight for us. Keep fighting Obama’s lack of judgement. Take it to him. This railroading of everyone not in the O-Tank is making America angry, and we need you to fight for us.
lansing quaker on October 16, 2008 at 8:28 PM
No, he should have paid his taxes and got his plumber’s license before turning himself into Mr Model Small Businessman.
Grow Fins on October 16, 2008 at 8:29 PM
No wonder businesses and people have been leaving Ohio!
newton on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 PM
and hired the accountant that set up Bambi’s mortgage for him with rezko for starters….
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Senator Obama, in an unguarded movement, finally let it slip – His plan for change in America is to redistribute the wealth. My plan for change in America is to increase the wealth potential for all. I’m John McCain and I approve this kind of economy for America.
HalJordan on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 PM
I thought he turned himself into mr citizen asking politician a question.
lorien1973 on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 PM
I’ve seen your insanity written here before.
When this is over, you miserable worm…you “useful idiot”, your master and his minions, will find you, and come for you too, because you have spoken without “His” permission…or have you, pimp.
Remember “The Night of the Long Knives”.
Look it up… Obama fish bait.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 16, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Ohio got addicted to an economic anomaly of union industrial jobs and huge agri-biz….
they taxed the farmers as much as they could for a long time but now the auto makers are leaving so they raised taxes on a Cleveland GOP watch and got nuked….now the donks seem to believe they beat the GOP for not raisibg taxes enough.
Gonna be an interesting election.
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM
And Biden thinks “jobs” is a three-letter word—-there’s video somewhere.
Rovin on October 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM
If that’s the case, then absolutely NOBODY among the serfs should dare ask Lord Obama a question.
And don’t forget, you don’t look at him in the face, either. keep your head low, your knees on the floor, and say “Yes, my Master…”
newton on October 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM
But Sarah Palin “called Hillary Clinton a whiner!”
And that “Iditabroad” can’t name a single newspaper!
I’m mad as hell.
lansing quaker on October 16, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Yep, between this and the disgraceful treatment of Sarah Palin, I’ve completely washed my hands of all news media. The meda is all a bunch of pansy bottom feeders who wouldn’t know an actual news story if it came up and bit them in the arse.
mjk on October 16, 2008 at 8:34 PM
That’s funny, I didn’t hear him announce that. Are you sure that’s what he turned himself into? Or did you do that in your own head so that it would be easier for you to make the points you wanted to make?
Weight of Glory on October 16, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Get your head out of your a$$ and pay attention: He’s not required to be licensed if he’s working under his bosses license. You should get your GED before posting any more of your crap.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I deeply regret that I will not be there to see the look on your face when your glorious leader loses to McCain on November 4.
Remember: Sarah Palin will be your vice-president. And in 2012 she will be your president.
And there will be nothing you can do to stop it.
ManlyRash on October 16, 2008 at 8:35 PM
So if Joe the plumber owes a lot of taxes why doesn’t the liberal media and lefties everywhere LOVE this guy? After all did the Democrat’s number two man…. Greasy Joe Biden say that paying taxes was patriotic?
Run for office Joe the Plumber, you got my vote. I love people that hate taxes.
Maxx on October 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM
GrowFins:
A tax lien is not that big a deal. I was a realtor and I knew of people who had to pay them to sell property and they did not even know they were there. Or maybe they were late. None of that is the point.
The man asked a simple question, his tax status has nothing to do with that. It is his right. Even if he is working as an apprentice or whatever, there are literally millions of people like him out there often working several jobs and doing the best they can to pay their bills. They do not need to be judged by people like you.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Yes. Asking a tough question when called on is absolutely tantamount to “turning himself into Mr Model Small Businessman.” Also, owing taxes and not having a license he’s not allowed to have yet anyway should disqualify someone from questioning THE MESSIAH and invite an immediate MSM anal probe.
Your arguments are feeble and they make you look foolish. Run away little progressive.
PS. What person that asked John McCain a similarly tough question has received similar treatment? I WONDER WHY THAT WOULD BE?
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM
It isn’t a binary proposition. Obviously Joe can do the job. Has he, to your knowledge, mis-fitted any pipes, or made any contaminated wells, or left any pipes leaking in the basement? I would think not, or he wouldn’t have lasted 3 years. The fact that Joe can do his job so well without having a government seal of approval demonstrates a problem with the government certification process, not a problem with Joe.
The stuff about doctors and airplane mechanics is mostly irrelevant, but both professions could significantly reduce costs – without any sacrifice in quality – by providing alternative pathways to obtaining credentials.
RightOFLeft on October 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Some friends of ours live in Joe’s neighborhood. They called us Sunday and said that Obama was on their street and they weren’t even allowed to go out of their house. My friends wife was upset because she wanted to show off her “Obama is the Antichrist” sign.
righteouschops on October 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Too bad he didn’t just default on his mortgage payments like so many Mr Model citizens or even non-citizens. Hey, do you know if the 700 billion bailout also pays delinquent taxes?
a capella on October 16, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Grow a Spine. You’re a man. Get off your belly, stop being a scared little pussy and stand on your own two feet. You might find you like it. You can survive without your Dear Leader. He has you brainwashed.
JiangxiDad on October 16, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Let’s have Joe the Plumber (manly) toys for young kids.
Or Joe the Fireman model.
None of this Ken Metrosexual stuff.
Sir Napsalot on October 16, 2008 at 8:39 PM
We haff vays of making you stop talking!
The Obama Doctrine: No unauthorized questions, please!
Plumbers for McCain.
Toilets for Obama.
profitsbeard on October 16, 2008 at 8:39 PM
I guess we’ll all have to agree to disagree. There’s two ways to see this story:
ONE:
Regular guy asks Obama a question, media actively decides to destroy man’s life for asking said question. The fact that he owes back taxes is somebody else’s “accounting error.”
TWO:
Regular guy asks Obama a question last weekend. Media does not care. Then, Wednesday night, McCain mentions Joe the Plumber a dozen times, more often then he mentions say, Sarah Palin. The next day, Joe appears on Good Morning America of his own volition. McCain launches a Joe the Plumber ad. McCain turns into a thirteen year old girl who can’t wait to call Joe, saying “I’m probably going to call him this morning. I thought he would probably be up late. I heard that his — that his phone lines were pretty well flooded. But I think we’re going to be spending some time together.” Suddenly all of America is asking “wtf is Joe the Plumber” and then they get their answer: an apparently unlicensed plumber who doesn’t pay his taxes on time. Who’s actually a registered republican. And who apparently would get a tax cut under Obama’s plan. America somehow survives.
I guess it doesn’t really matter either way.
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Herr Plumber, vee need to zee your papers. Vhat? You don’t have zee papers? Vee haff vays of dealing viff volks like you.
innominatus on October 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM
In fact Grow Fins, why don’t you tell us your real name and where you live?
This is the internet, you have no right to privacy here.
We will check out your tax situation, go the court house where you live and make sure your property taxes are not late. Find out where your kids go to school and get their records. Check out your background. Talk to your family members and your employer. Follow you around and make sure you are not stepping out on the spouse and in general dog your trail.
After all, you asked for it.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Shhh, only completely perfect people can question the Messiah. Don’t you dare have an unpaid parking ticket or a blemish on your credit card report or tax problems or foreclosures or cash problems or ever have been stopped by the cops or yelled at by your boss or problems in high school. If any of these apply, you are never ever ever allowed to ask a Presidential candidate a perfectly reasonable question.
mjk on October 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Joe’s probably got more experience at handling other peoples money than Obama…..I see a place in McCain’s administration for Joe.
Rovin on October 16, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Hashing over Joe’s record and addressing the smears, IMO, isn’t productive.
The point is that Obama and his surrogates are no longer railroading just political oppenents, but now private, unaffiliated citizens.
I’m not giving credence to all this hay they’re throwing about by arguing over it’s density.
I’m more focused on the pile of shit rumenating under all this hay. And that’s the thug tactics of Barack Obama.
lansing quaker on October 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Darn, profitsbeard! I thought I was so darned clever and you make me look like some kind of
Bidenplagiarist!innominatus on October 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM
e-pirate:
That is nonsense. The only reason McCain even mentioned Joe was that he was already being talked about. And you know it.
Besides, it was not McCain who made Obama laugh at the man in front of his adoring fan club at a rally. No that was all Obama, the prick.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Who knew that regular guys like me and Joe could just call GMA and say “hey, I want to be interviewed by you this morning. Is 7:45 okay.”
e-pirate, you type a lot of stuff, but if it just made sense or had any semblance of intelligence behind it, you might be able to wipe Joe’s ass.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM
this POS is a particularly nasty troll–you’ve all been warned
“e-pirate”s actual name is Butt Pirate, and as you’ve notice, it is just a waste of Time and Space
two Kos Kids, trolling for abuse………
Janos Hunyadi on October 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Oh… Why don’t you talk to Ed about this? Maybe if your friends send you a full account of what happened in that neighborhood at that time and is posted here, we all can show that Obama is, indeed, an arrogant, elitist, a—–e snob, and let all of America know who he really is.
newton on October 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Where is this insistence on personal responsibility when it comes to people who can’t pay their mortgages have their homes foreclosed on?
And Al Franken should’ve taken care of his own workers before preaching about people taking care of theirs. I don’t recall Joe making himself Mr. Model Small Businessman. I recall him asking Obama a question, McCain bringing up his debate, and the media asking asking him for quotes and questions. He never claimed to be perfect. In fact, he said he had his own issues during the news conference.
amerpundit on October 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM
No Elizabeth it absolutely does matter. The newsies can’t be bothered to link Bambi to an organization he was a member of, worked for, and donated to but they can get a total rectal exam of a private citizen in less than three days? Trust me revenge is a dish best served cold and the wanna-be Stasi types are going to love counter battery when it comes.
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM
That’s what really irritates me.
Spirit of 1776 on October 16, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I wonder how many angry girlfriends the Dems could find. Maybe he was late on his car payment a couple times too. Bet he got into fights in high school. This guy should know better than to ask a Dem Presidential candidate a serious question. It’s really all his fault. You can’t blame the Dems and Obama for crushing him while we all watch and point fingers. Obama has to crush this guy. He’s standing in his way. Just the way it goes.
JellyToast on October 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM
UPDATE: Obama mocks Joe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4
Shameful.
Mutnodjmet on October 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM
First of all, I don’t recall America asking who Joe the Plumber is. Second of all, the media should express the same interest in finding out who Obama is. They’ve been dragged kicking and screaming to cover him negatively and then refuse to cover other controversial aspects of his life.
amerpundit on October 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM
You represent the sort of grease spot emblematic of the worst excrement ever shat. So Joe has a small tax lean. Big deal. Its not like he’s fled the country and gone under the radar or off the grid. He probably has a payment plan with the IRS already. As for the license aspect, he works under a licensed contractor and is legal in that respect.
But let’s talk about you and the rest of the vermin Democrat partisans here in America. Right now, this very moment, you, Grow Fins, has no problem whatsoever participating in the character assassination of a man who dared only ask a question, one of the most sacred rights in American Democracy. And apparently you have no shame in doing so.
That makes you a bad person with a deeply flawed character.
JonPrichard on October 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM
I just made the mistake of watching the latest Obama rally on YouTube.
Where he dismisses Joe, and by proxy, middle america with “A Plumber is the guy [McCain's] fightin’ for.”
That dismissive tone. And the crowd laughed.
I just can’t take it. I’m seething.
lansing quaker on October 16, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Honestly I’m just happy to see somebody respond without swear words, so thanks for that.
The problem is that I’ve got no idea how well Joe does his job. When most people call a plumber, I assume they don’t ask for references. And unless you’re getting help from a one man business, references don’t help a whole lot. If you call up the company Joe works for and say you need your toilet fixed, there’s no telling whether they will send you a twenty year veteran or a high school drop out who bought himself a wrench off e-bay. That’s the whole reason that some minimum quality standards have to be required for many professions like this, to protect consumers.
Also I left a typo in that prior post… I meant contaminated “welds” not “wells.” My bad.
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM
The amazing thing about a guy like Grow Fins here is that he has less problem with people like Ayers and Djorn who were not only buddies with Obama but on the FBI’s most wanted list, than he does with a working man who has a tax lien. And God forbid, he did not get his license.
You know what it takes to get a realtor’s license? A six week course and then the state test. $25 for the license and some bs continuing ed with more money to the state on a regular basis. Like most of these things, it is a racket designed to help the state rake in money.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Going after his livelihood is one short step away from brickbats….
like I said politics may be a full contact sport in 2012.
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Your IQ test came back: it was negative.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:49 PM
e-pirate:
You are so insipid. Who the hell are you to ask how well this man does his freaking job? For all I know you do not even have one.
Sheesh. He asked a simple question and you are all over his job performance, Who the hell do you think you are?
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
I hope that Joe becomes an American Icon for Freedom.
He put a Wrench in the Obama Campaign.
mindhacker on October 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
No. What’s amazing about Grow Fins and e-pirate are that they actually care to discuss Joe’s personal life at all.
Obamabots need to stop deflecting. And we need to stop gobbling up the bait like a deep-fried Snickers bar.
Anyone who wants to attack a private citizen’s personal life because he asked a candidate a question should not be given one freaking bone.
lansing quaker on October 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Fixed it for ya.
newton on October 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Yeah. Shut him up. He dared expose Obama socialist policies.
This SOB Obama makes Bill Clinton look like a Boy Scout.
capitalist piglet on October 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
You are really wrapped up in a license being a magic shield of delivered instead of imputed competence.
I’ll ask you again why would the FAA look the other way on illegal aliens on smaller contract airlines’ staffs engaged in hazmat work without certs amigo?
I guess they never asked a question a politico fumbled eh?
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM
e-pirate:
Idiot. This country was built by people who did not have a license. Moron.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM
That’s true, regular guys can’t do that.
But when GMA calls regular guys and asks “want to be on the show at 7:45?” the regulars are allowed to say “no.”
Or are you suggesting he was forced on the air by the cruel Obama thugocracy?
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Simple, don’t dare question The One™.
Right now its just a savage public exposure of your life. If The One™ takes office you will risk far, far more than public exposure.
johnsteele on October 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM
With vanilla ice-cream? That’s the stuff.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Exactly! I said this in another thread about Joe after watching the clip of Obama making fun of Joe and plumbers saying something to the effect (sneeringly) that whoever heard of a plumber making $250,000. But that isn’t what Joe said. He was talking about buying a business and growing a business that might potentially making that much money and he didn’t think he should be penalized for working toward the American dream. That’s how totally of touch and synch Obama is with the average American citizen.
Glynn on October 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM
again, I was unaware McCain controlled Barry’s prompter. You are expecting Joe to allow the Bambi camp to spout off at him and deny him a platform to clarify and amplify why he asked THE ONE his question.
Elizabeth I don’t think you get it….Ohio is blue-collar blue-dogs….
this ain’t gonna help the Me$$iah he better order up another 200,000 fraudulent ballots for the SecState.
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:54 PM
I didn’t see you ask that question before. My answer is that the FAA absolutely should not look the other way, the airline should be prosecuted.
I’m the one who says everyone should be doing everything by the rules, remember?
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Ed, it’s even worse than that.
He didn’t stand on a rope line. According to a Toledo Blade article, he was playing football in his own yard with his son when Obama decided to do a little house to house work.
Obama came up to him.
And now it appears that he’s going to lose his job because of it.
Jimmie on October 16, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Now, I fear this Joe guy would have to leave his town, or even Ohio, in order to start his life again. With Obama as President, he probably won’t be given a job anywhere because of fear of retaliation against any potential boss of his.
newton on October 16, 2008 at 8:55 PM
What about all those Obamabots out there fainting and drooling and slobbering all over Obama on camera? Should we grill them?
What about those lovely young people wearing the Sarah Palin is a C*unt Tshirts, should we make sure their employers {assuming they have jobs} know what they wear to political rallies?
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 8:55 PM
I thought so to, but given today’s firestorm I think I’ll go for:
“I am not going to spread YOUR wealth around Joe (like Senator Government wants to do)”
Finally we have a line to counteract the dems “tax cuts for the rich” crap.
McCain needs to use this line 200 times a day for the next 3 weeks and not let Obama change the subject.
neuquenguy on October 16, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Facts really have nothing whatsoever to do with the way you reason, or leave your trailer every morning, do they? You said “of his own volition” (a word I’m sure you had to look up), when he was actually invited by GMA to be questioned about his audacious behavior when he dared ask Duh One – your candidate – a real question.
AubieJon on October 16, 2008 at 8:56 PM
No genius,it is the democrats that are making this “bad accounting” drivel:
STEP DOWN, CHARLIE
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/postopinion/editorials/step_down__charlie_129514.htm
September 17, 2008 —
This guy is a much a tax professional as Joe Biden is a foreign policy expert.Give us a break!!!
The same people hammering Joe the Plumber for not having a license to work are the same people that want amnesty for illegals and think it is okay for illegal aliens to vote.
What un-believable hypocrisy.
The same press,I mean democratic activist,that are going through Palin’s trash and tearing down Joe here are the same
people that don’t have the time to report on the success in
Iraq,Obama’s ties to domestic terrorist that he worked with and shared a fund raiser with to jettison his political career,and question the judgment of a man that spent 20 yrs. in a racist church.
That’s all just distractions!!
Nothing to see here!!
let’s get back to the real work of tearing down the middle
class worker who dares to try and buy his own business,you know, the middle class people Obama is always telling us he
cares about unless they dare to ask him a logical question.
Maybe while that crack staff of democratic activist are doing such good investigative work,they can drum up Kerry’s
military records he promised to reveal to the public or some
of this information from their chosen one:
Ah… Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/ah-sorry-to-bother-you.html
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
1. OccidentalCollege records — Not released
2. ColumbiaCollege records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — ‘not available’
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — ‘not available’
8. Law practice client list — Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13.Your Record of baptism — Not released or ‘not available’
14. Your Illinois State Senate records — ‘not available’
Of course,full disclosure is only important if you are a Republican.
Baxter Greene on October 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM
I must have missed your miltiple posts on the Me$$iah’s funny swap with an indicted corruption peddler on a land deal he otherwise couldn’t have afforded….oh wait I am waiting for you to direct me to your indictment of Franklin Raines’ accounting misdeeds and risk laundering at FM….oh wait……
an overregulated and unjustly enforced buracracy is every bit the “evil” on the populace that an anarchial one would be.
I’ll refer you to my earlier post on FDR jailing a man for ironing shirts a nickle too cheaply.
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Yet…when Democrats dishonestly pick bogus back-story props for their health care pitch, the left-wing blogosphere throws a major hissy-fit when Malkin and company expose the Democrats as the frauds they are by exposing their sock-puppets as the frauds they are…
ynot4tony2 on October 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM
The “objective observer” mask has not only fallen off the Left-shilling press in this disgusting episode, but it’s rolled over the curb out into the street and been run over twice by Obama’s Big Marxist Bus.
Cicero43 on October 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM
How often have you called a plumber? I’ve had some licensed inept morons show up at my home.
Except that the media’s not really interested in that. Nor have the dealings been stopped as far as I know. Yet they’ve been able to take down Joe the Plumber. Aren’t there some priorities needed here?
amerpundit on October 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Be fair now.
He’s not particularly useful.
Jimmie on October 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM
It occurs to me that the participants in the Boston Tea Party carried out their deed of dumping tea in Boston Harbor without the imprimatur of a license.
JonPrichard on October 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Now they need to send Joe the Plumber and Todd Palin the Fisherman/Oilman to campaign together in the Midwest.
neuquenguy on October 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Now THERE is a convincing argument. This country was also built by people who didn’t have plastics or heart transplants or automobiles, so clearly we don’t need those either. They didn’t have licenses in the 1700’s so why do we even bother today?
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 9:01 PM
You dishonest little creep, you come on this thread to justify how Joe W was treated. That makes you a worthless punk who has NOTHING worthwhile to say
and you don’t like ’swear words’: such a sensitive girl
Janos Hunyadi on October 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
e-pirate:
You missed your calling. You should have been born back in the 30’s in Soviet Russia. You would have fit right in.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
“quote” learn it live it love it….
wow you lived in Ohio*sort of* Cleveland is more like Buffalo west but I digress, for five whole years….
I am from Ohio from a family that has been in Ohio since 1788. I have lived afar thanks to the DoD off and on over the years but I have a pretty good plumb of what is on Ohio’s mind….
the donks, like the donk Congress that took power was going to “clean up Ohio and fix things”….well the secstate is running a raging clust*rf*ck and the US Congress that was gonna “get energy prices under control” has failed….
picking on a blue collar man trying to make a living and wating to at worst avoid fees is nt goigto resonate with SW Oyo anyway
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
how much does a toy plumbers pipe wrench cost? Perhaps we should buy some and mail them to the media?
aikidoka on October 16, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Daily Kos is calling Joe the Plumber the Antichrist now.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/181137/64/685/632924
SoulGlo on October 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM
uh…government appetite for control and you cash?
neuquenguy on October 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM
If you want argument that the media is noble and smart and focused on the right priorities, it ain’t coming from me.
I completely agree that the media is stupid, focuses on completely pointless issues like Joe the Plumber, and should focus on things that do actually matter, including actually examinating the pasts of our candidates.
I’m just poking fun at the hilarious overblown victimization here in the comments about how some guy “asked a question and then was destroyed.” It’s not the media’s fault he didn’t pay his taxes. If we never hear about him again, fine by me.
e-pirate on October 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM
They did however have balls, freedom of speech, and self-reliance unlike the morons who want the tender loving embrace of Nanny Givernment…..
sven10077 on October 16, 2008 at 9:05 PM
e-pirate:
You are conflating personal worth and the freedom of speech with a plumbing license. You are assuming that a man does not have the right to ask the little Emporer a simple question without having anonymous little jerks like you judging him..
so what is your name? where do you live? what do you do for a living? have you ever been arrested? have you ever been late on your taxes? have you babysat children without a license? cut someone’s hair without a license?
Tell us all because unless we know everything about you your opinion means nothing. It is only to be expected.
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 9:06 PM
a++hole. Does that count as a ’swear word’??
Janos Hunyadi on October 16, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Perhaps this is the beginning of the latest Wellstone Memorial shark-jumping moment…
Matteo on October 16, 2008 at 9:07 PM
e-pirate:
So tell me, since you are stickler for all things to be so perfect and up front and legal and everything, do you have a problem with the way Obama purhased his home? How about the tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars in dubious contributions? How about his relationship with felons like Rezko? Terrorist friends? Crazy preachers?
How about his using ACORN and the FBI investigations in 15 states of their illegal activities?
Or is it just the unlicensed apprentice plumbers that raise your ire?
Terrye on October 16, 2008 at 9:09 PM
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