What we can learn from the Joe the Plumber episode; Update: AOL Hot Seat Poll Added

posted at 11:05 pm on October 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey


Honestly, I’m rather surprised that Joe Wurzelbacher and his rope-line dialogue with Barack Obama has managed to stay in the news for as long as it has.  I knew when I first heard the exchange that it went badly for Obama.  I didn’t expect Joe the Plumber to be the main topic of the last presidential debate.  And I certainly didn’t expect Obama supporters to keep the story alive by their rabid character assassination of a man who did nothing more than ask a question — at random.

Now, we have people crawling over his tax records, his voter registration, his professional licensing, and whatever else they can find in the public record.  Someone has linked him to the long-deceased Charles Keating, suggesting that somehow Obama managed to pick a McCain plant out of a ropeline full of people by accident.  How much longer before a certain blogger at The Atlantic demands a paternity test to see if Joe the Plumber fathered Sarah Palin’s baby — or Bristol’s, for that matter?

There is a stench of desperation surrounding this, as if they sense defeat coming from a moment of honesty from Obama about his real intentions to institute a regime of redistribution.  They want to discredit the man who only asked the question as if he’s some political operative who magically forced Obama to sound … well, a little like a Marxist.  Why?  They want to distract people from Obama’s answer by sliming the man Obama picked at random to ask a question.

And where’s the Tanning Bed Media on this topic?  Danny Glover lays it out:

Jonathan Martin of The Politico was among the first out of the gate, with blog posts noting that Wurzelbacher, affectionately known by most of America as “Joe The Plumber,” has a tax lien against him and doesn’t have a plumber’s license. Martin conveniently forgot to mention that the law doesn’t require one.) Bloomberg also has a story on the tax lien, and AP and The Washington Post did their part to make a story out of the “unlicensed” non-story.

Expect more of the same over coming days. In fact, don’t be surprised if all of those investigative reporters sent to Alaska after John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate suddenly get reassigned to the plumber beat in flyover country. Joe The Plumber must be discredited at all costs! …

But why is it that political reporters only get curious when a conservative Joe America storms onto the scene? Why aren’t they just as curious when liberals trot out, say, a 12-year-old boy to give a national radio address?

It has been almost a year to the day since journalists dropped the ball on telling America more about Graeme Frost, the boy who made the case for sinking billions of dollars more into the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. But when Michelle Malkin and other curious conservative bloggers did the legwork the press wouldn’t, they earned the scorn of their mainstream colleagues.

Indeed.  And Joe Wurzelbacher didn’t give a speech or make a commercial.  He asked a question.  He stood on a rope line, and Obama picked him to ask it.  The Tanning-Bed Media seems to feel that they have a duty to expose every last part of Wurzelbacher’s life, but that asking Obama to explain his political partnerships with Tony Rezko and William Ayers, and his long friendship and financial support of rabid demagogues Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger, are not just out of bounds but downright racist.

So what have we learned from this episode?

  1. Thou shalt not offend The One by asking him a question.  Of any kind.
  2. Anyone who questions The One will have to undergo a public pillorying of a kind unseen since the Red Scare, or perhaps the Inquisition.
  3. The Tanning-Bed Media will happily participate in any inquisition, as long as it keeps them from investigating irrelevant issues like Obama’s ties to the Chicago Machine, William Ayers, ACORN, or his record on protecting infanticide.

Don’t ask questions. Don’t check the records of people running for political office, but do check the records of those who dare violate Rule #1.  No dissent will be tolerated.  Our political and media masters have spoken.

I only ask one favor of the Left and the media: please keep this story alive for another three weeks.  I can’t wait to read Michelle’s column tomorrow.

Update & Bump: I’ve added the AOL Hot Seat Poll to this post, and bumped it to keep in near the top for today’s Top Picks.


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I hope everyone learned the lesson we were intended to learn.

If, as a private citizen, you have the gall to ask Sen. Obama a question that somehow shows him in a negative light, be prepared to have the full force of the Media and the leftist wing-nuts deliver their ‘righteous’ retribution to make an example of you.

This is startling and outrageous.

If you dare to question, you will be punished.

cryptojunkie on October 17, 2008 at 9:51 AM

The Brown Shirts are out full force in the U.S.

Let Joe be the example to anyone that makes Obama look bad.

Let Joe serve as a warning of things to come under and Obama Presidency.

Virginia Shanahan on October 17, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Allahpundit: Should have known better than to ask a media darling a tough question before your affairs were in order, Joe. Exit question: The law’s the law and it is, after all, his own fault for not having the papers he needs.

It is not Joe the Apprentice’s fault!

According to the law, the apprentice is apprenticed to the one whose fault it is for not having submitted the papers for his apprentice.

maverick muse on October 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM

maverick muse on October 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Judging by the commotion Joe is causing where liberals are writing, it would be a mistake to let joe go.

Liberals want Joe destroyed. Period.

This story is not going away.

drjohn on October 17, 2008 at 10:42 AM

This is a great example of what can be expected under an Obamonopoly.

drjohn on October 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Let Joe be the example to anyone that makes Obama look bad.

Hell no!

I’m not letting Joe be the whipping boy for elitists.

Allahpundit allies again with the weasel Jonathan Martin who allies with the sow pet Peggy Noonan, saboteurs in league against victory, in league for defeat.

If [conservative journalists] had stood for conservative principle and the full expression of views, instead of attempting to silence those who opposed mere party, their movement, and the party, would be in a better, and healthier, position.

At any rate, come and get me, copper.–Peggy Noonan

Noonan condemns herself, having preconceived Palin [aka the laborers who do the heavy lifting for the conservative movement] to be an undesirable element in Noonan’s elitist inner-Washington-NYC circle. It is Noonan who seeks to silence Palin, not visa versa. It is the working conservative American that Noonan strikes as irrelevant for not speaking the convoluted PC incoherently literate newspeak.

I see the elitists in both parties as the problem. They have their lives intertwined to the point that ideology only motivates their own security AS the elitists.

Noonan sees any criticism of her own prejudices as fascistic. Noonan fails to recognize that she herself is biased in not such a “good” way, reviling Palin for not being a Noonan clone, for having different cultural affinities. That Palin actually LIKES people who work is offensive to Noonan who only accepts people of independent wealth or people who promote Noonan’s wealth and power. Calling her critics “copper” is calling critics thoroughly corrupt authoritarians, aka late 60s-1970s “pigs”–the very targets of the SDS and Ayers’ Weather Underground. Thanks for your twisted self confession, Noonan.

It is Noonan & Ilk who are being played like a fiddle by Obama forces. And so with her feelings of being abused (self inflicted) by those she feigns to represent (productive conservatives) Noonan rationalizes the feeling to justify playing the GOP campaign like a fiddle after igniting and feeding the wildfire called “CLASS WARFARE”–and she has the nerve to call us the pigs.

Noonan, you are not vindicated.

maverick muse on October 17, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Well, I got through to try to help Joe pay the personal income tax lien but somebody beat me to it. They paid with a credit card the guy said.

I called St. Charles Mercy Hospital but they said they couldn’t tell me if he had any outstanding bills/liens probably due to confidentiality, etc.

Gave it my best shot.

Sapwolf on October 17, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Beware liberal jackboots…..don’t EVEN try coming for our guns during the next super-liberal government. That just might be the final straw. (see Charlton Heston quote)

This is serious stuff folks. We are about to lose it all and become a country our founders could have NEVER imagined!
____________________________________________________________
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Free speech and voting rights. A liberal supermajority would move quickly to impose procedural advantages that could cement Democratic rule for years to come. One early effort would be national, election-day voter registration. This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the “community organizer” left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls. The District of Columbia would also get votes in Congress — Democratic, naturally.

Felons may also get the right to vote nationwide, while the Fairness Doctrine is likely to be reimposed either by Congress or the Obama FCC. A major goal of the supermajority left would be to shut down talk radio and other voices of political opposition.

Google and MoveOn.org would get “net neutrality” rules, subjecting the Internet to intrusive regulation for the first time.
____________________________________________________________

The fairness doctrine and net nuetrality laws will effectively shut us all down…..It’s been nice knowing you all. (we need to come with a “secret signal” so we can recognize one of our kind when we cross paths)

Goodeye_Closed on October 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM

Ed,

Recall the brilliant analogy that Beto Ochoa made some time ago about these “conservative” elitists bailing out in hopes of alliance with Obama.

LUKE 16: The Parable of the Shrewd Manager

But don’t stop @ the opportunistic shrewdness self-congratulations to excuse saboteurs:

13″No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”

14The Pharisees [ELITISTS], who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight.

So Peggy Noonan plans to laugh all the way to the bank. She wants a copper to bring her down? She talks the talk of what words infer, she calls God a copper.

maverick muse on October 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM

The more they beat up Joe the Plumber the better for McCain.

Joe’s private problems (tax debt etc) are the burdens of the average voter.

When the press tries to destroy Joe (for asking a question the pussyfoots refused to ask in the staged ‘debates’), the public feels a cold wind at their door.

Beating up on Clinton for sexcapades helped Clinton with the median group.

It is intimidating the public

Keep it up. The only way the public can resist an attack by the organized press on a symbol of themselves is secretly, in the voting booth

The best part: it is too late for the MSM to say they are sorry and drop the brass knuckles

entagor on October 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM

You knew it was going to happen: LEAVE JOE PLUMBER ALONE! (mild content warning)

wise_man on October 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

When do we get to see Joe’s private emails all over the net?

Goodeye_Closed on October 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

It’s been nice knowing you all. (we need to come with a “secret signal” so we can recognize one of our kind when we cross paths)

Draw a cross in the dirt. That’s wht it will come down to.

ManlyRash on October 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Hellll…man. I thot it was alllright to be little bittie…little hometown…not a big old city.

tomas on October 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM

In this case, the messenger (Joe the Plumber) is not important (although he is being skewered). What is important was the response the “Chosen One” gave, “…share the wealth.” People in positions of wealth do well enough spreading the wealth through charitable giving and job creation. Confiscatory taxes that “spread the wealth” empower nobody but government. We can (and do) take care of each other without the government adding disincentive to productivity. Obama is looking to divvy up an economic pie in a way that he sees as fair. Business is looking to bake a bigger pie that we can all partake in.

Paul K. on October 17, 2008 at 11:27 AM

If this man loses his livelihood, would hope that this blog and others would start raising money for him. Maybe he could exceed that $250,000 that none of Mr. Obama’s buddies, who are plumbers (the Nixon type maybe), don’t make. I would help achieve that goal by contributing. An American should not suffer for asking a reasonable question of a politician. I notice Mr. Obama has not criticized those who attack Mr. Wurzelbacher, but instead he and Mr. Biden are leading the attack and taking Joe’s question out of context. It was a hypothetical question about if and when he reached that 250,000 level.

So in essence, we have criticism because Joe asked The One a question that evoked an embarrassing and profound answer; an answer that summed up Mr. Obama’s ideology. Take from those that have and give it to those who haven’t by redistributing the wealth. Another said, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Karl Marx in 1875.

My hatred for the media grows every day.

amr on October 17, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Joe the Plumber makes so much sense it takes teams of political advisors and “objective” journalists to counter his story.

Angry Dumbo on October 17, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Well, they can tear “Joe” apart and discredit him all they want, but his quetion still remains, and has nothing to do with his credibality.

If you read the story about “Sam the gas station guy” that was referenced to on HufPo, you will see the difference. You gotta learn to lie to the media. I’d like to see some indepth investigations on this guy.

N4646W on October 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM

I sent a check so that Joe can handle anything that the MSM throws at him, I suggest you do the same. Help a brother out!

Newell Plumbing
c/o Joe Wurzelbacher
5665 Cowan Street
Toledo, Oh. 43613-2071

Mercy4Me on October 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Hell no!

I’m not letting Joe be the whipping boy for elitists.

Absolutely. We are all plumbers today….
I am Jo the plumber!

Do not be the gazelle, which let the weakest go to protect the herd.

Be the wolf, that guards every member of the pack so that the whole not be weakened.

I run with a pack, not a herd.

ColdRage on October 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM

McCain’s vetting is truly pathetic.

okonkolo on October 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM

This just in:

WASHINGTON (AP) – The Supreme Court is siding with Ohio’s top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.
The justices on Friday overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio’s top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, faced a deadline of Friday to set up a system to provide local officials with names of newly registered voters whose driver’s license numbers or Social Security numbers on voter registration forms don’t match records in other government databases.

Vashta.Nerada on October 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM

McCain’s vetting is truly pathetic.

okonkolo on October 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM

What the hell does that mean?

Mercy4Me on October 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Sapwolf on October 17, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Thanks for the attempt! I have seen several sites to help so I will go there. Again, good job I know it is appreciated.

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Republicans fail in attemp to disenfranchise voters…

We just can’t win one.

tomas on October 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Get in.

Sit down.

Shut up.

and Hang on!

FlatFoot on October 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Some friends of ours live in Joe’s neighborhood. They called us Sunday and said that Obama was on their street and they weren’t even allowed to go out of their house. My friends wife was upset because she wanted to show off her “Obama is the Antichrist” sign.

righteouschops on October 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM

My wife talked to her friend again today and she said Joe’s neighbors across the street are a bunch of dope smoking hippies and they’re letting CNN park in their driveway. And they just erected a huge Obama sign in their front yard. So much for love thy neighbor.

righteouschops on October 17, 2008 at 1:27 PM

The Video that could cost Obama the election:

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68

Poll finds American reject redistribution of wealth as suggested by Barack Hussein Obama.

PRINCETON, NJ — When given a choice about how government should address the numerous economic difficulties facing today’s consumer, Americans overwhelmingly — by 84% to 13% — prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans.

Read: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108445/Americans-Oppose-Income-Redistribution-Fix-Economy.aspx

Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy

[Note: Elect John McCain for a free America and economic growth.]

AdrianS on October 17, 2008 at 2:01 PM

where is the outrage over this bullshit by the MSM!!!!!!

Were they not supporting the notion that freedom of speech was under threat after 9/11 when libs were chastised for spouting anti-American propaganda? So now speech can be supressed when a lowly citizen asks an innocent question that is open for the candidate to answer anyway he likes…and candidate answers in a politically damaging manner? The man is trampled and I don’t see ANY Hollywood elites, pundits or politicians screaming censorship.

Goodeye_Closed on October 17, 2008 at 2:15 PM

When the Obamanots came for the Plumbers,
I remained silent;
I was not a plumber.

When they locked up the conservatives,
I remained silent;
I was not a conservative.

When they came for the trade unionists (card check),
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the rich,
I remained silent;
I was not rich.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Califemme on October 17, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Real men get angry. Love this video by Bob in defense of Joe called “First Socialism. Now Communism.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHrD36NEPGk&eurl=http://copiousdissent.blogspot.com/2008/10/working-man-stands-up-for-joe-plumber.html

deedledee on October 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM

What’s disturbing is that apparently one-third of the respondents to the poll are idiots.

irishspy on October 17, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Good interview with Joe with Dom Giordano, Philly Big Talker 1210-AM, taped before the debate:

http://www.thebigtalker1210.com/pages/15077.php

deedledee on October 17, 2008 at 7:00 PM

My boss happens to be Joe the Plumber’s ex-brother-in-law. He told me today that his wife’s mom (Joe’s ex mom-in-law) has been called by Newsweek, the New York Times and Inside Edition digging for dirt. His wife’s sister’s divorce degree (Joe’s ex-wife) has been posted online and the media are harassing Joe and his son (my boss’ nephew). My boss was called today by our two major newspapers. I am so sad for Joe. Even my boss, who obviously supported his sister-in-law during her divorce from Joe, says the entire family is rallying around this plumber and is disgusted with the media. People need to stand up to these jackboot thug tactics! If you can’t ask a presidential candidate a tough question with out having your life destroyed, what does that say for the future of our nation? Hitler, here we come!

mathscience41 on October 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM

I wish more “Joe the Plumbers”, regardless of trade, that want to start a small business that may eventually earn $250,000+, will come forward and denounce the attacks against this man and each ask Obama the same question.

iamsaved on October 17, 2008 at 7:54 PM

This isn’t the question. The question is: WHY hasn’t there been an NBC Satellite truck outside Bill Ayers house, or Wright’s house, or ACORN’s headquarters – demanding answers like they are outside of Joe’s house? hmmmmm?

marklmail on October 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM

This isn’t the question. The question is: WHY hasn’t there been an NBC Satellite truck outside Bill Ayers house, or Wright’s house, or ACORN’s headquarters – demanding answers like they are outside of Joe’s house? hmmmmm?

marklmail on October 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Very good Q Markl.
My guess is its not part of the LIberal media’s agenda.
I’d like to know also why Mr. Obama’s citizenship hangs in question in which the DNC should be investigating (as should the Hillary camp). Does anyone even know where the man was born? Hawaii has no record.

johnnyU on October 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM

My boss happens to be Joe the Plumber’s ex-brother-in-law. He told me today that his wife’s mom (Joe’s ex mom-in-law) has been called by Newsweek, the New York Times and Inside Edition digging for dirt. His wife’s sister’s divorce degree (Joe’s ex-wife) has been posted online and the media are harassing Joe and his son (my boss’ nephew). My boss was called today by our two major newspapers. I am so sad for Joe. Even my boss, who obviously supported his sister-in-law during her divorce from Joe, says the entire family is rallying around this plumber and is disgusted with the media. People need to stand up to these jackboot thug tactics! If you can’t ask a presidential candidate a tough question with out having your life destroyed, what does that say for the future of our nation? Hitler, here we come!

mathscience41 on October 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Cap’n Ed, are you reading this? Send a copy of this comment to Michelle, please! People must know about the harassment Joe and his son are enduring!

newton on October 17, 2008 at 9:11 PM

mathscience41 on October 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Just when you think that they cant stoop any lower, they just make you despise them even worse.

Lucky for Joe that his divorce wasn’t worse, these people could have said anything, made any charge to get their revenge, and what would the press put out there as the truth? Whatever they wanted. And good luck for Joe to try to set the record straight. I’m glad to hear that they are defending him. And it’s disgusting what the American media is doing to a citizen like Joe.

Are they making stories about Obama’s guy who owes back taxes? No. This really is absolutely disgusting.

wise_man on October 17, 2008 at 11:12 PM

This is an outrage, as what is happening to James T. Harris. I am so mad at the press and mad at the democrats . People are threating to kill James T. Harris and his family. The press going after someone who asked the ONE a question.They wanted to talk with him , he did , and so he a “public figure” so investigate him more than Obama lies.

Tell me do the press go after every person that asks a question? Or is it anything to distract from Acorn and the fraud they are doing or Obama socalist answer or how the hell does someone know all these shady left fringe people and have long relationships with them.

sorry for the vent but the press and democrats are starting with a Hitler campaign on anyone not drinking thier kool aid. Its is sicking.

Gracelynn on October 18, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Guys, according to Ace they’re posting Joe’s home address and his SSN over at KOS. What the hell is wrong with liberals? I am so disgusted.

Smoothies on October 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Smoothies on October 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM

They are lower than pondscum.

Gracelynn on October 18, 2008 at 12:53 AM

What the hell is wrong with liberals? Smoothies on October 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Is that an essay question? I shouldn’t be multiple choice ’cause the answer would be all of the above.

Mojave Mark on October 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Honestly, I’m rather surprised that Joe Wurzelbacher and his rope-line dialogue with Barack Obama has managed to stay in the news for as long as it has.

Wrong. Joe was on his own front lawn playing with his kid when Obama stopped by to campaign.

thegreatbeast on October 18, 2008 at 11:17 AM

I am Joe

You can hurt me but you cannot hurt my dream

My dream belongs to everyone

What is my dream?

A nation where every Joe has a right to give an honest answer to a politician

Entagor notes that Joe did not break any law. Joe had exercised his rights under the Constitution.

Entagor also notes that the One has removed the National Anthem from this event to make room for more important words

entagor on October 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM

Guys, according to Ace they’re posting Joe’s home address and his SSN over at KOS. What the hell is wrong with liberals? I am so disgusted.

Smoothies on October 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM

There’s nothing wrong with them. They are operating exactly as expected and intended.

Maybe its time we all started asking questions of Obama directly. To hell with the MSM.

Time for a boycott, people. Start paying attention to the companies that sponsor the network news broadcasts. Begin a campaign that will deluge the advertisers with complaints about the activities of the programs that they sponsor. We will not buy their products because their advertising is supporting the soft overthrow of the American government by liberal fascists.

turfmann on October 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM

I’m good with the “I am Joe” posters/signs.

Thinking of putting “YOU ARE JOE” in my yard, tho.
Blue collar neighborhood, and all.
Might mean a bit more, to them.

pambi on October 18, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Careful telling people what they are from a yard sign during campaigns. Define yourself. If they identify, let it be their own epiphany.

maverick muse on October 18, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Kos SS# posted online yet?

Posting ANYONE’S SS# needs to become illegal if it isn’t yet.

maverick muse on October 18, 2008 at 4:49 PM

I was literally with a plumber and his family last night, sitting around the fire after a night of high school football in the socialist state of NJ…his wife said, “I was all set to vote for Obama…until Joe the plumber…I am MARRIED to Joe the plumber, well, Rich the plumber, and when I really looked into what he wants to do to our family and way of life, it was over…”

Another McCain voter…THANKS JOE!

reaganfan on October 18, 2008 at 6:50 PM

JTP is on the Huckabee show on Fox News right now!!!!

t.ferg on October 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM

It’s been nice knowing you all. (we need to come with a “secret signal” so we can recognize one of our kind when we cross paths)

Draw a cross in the dirt. That’s wht it will come down to.

Wear your jeans properly cinched to the waist line(not at mid hip w/boxers exposed), tie the boot strings of your Timberland’s, and wear a lapel flag pin. You’ll stand out like a sore thumb.

Benjamin9 on October 19, 2008 at 6:31 AM

Isn’t it ironic how the MSM is digging up all thr dirt it can against “JOE” the plumber? And not a word about what “O” Dumby said about redistrubtion of “WEALTH”????????

Rick007 on October 19, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Hannity has him on the air right now and JTP got pissed when he heard the sound byte of “what plumber do you know maiking 250,000 a year”. He’s also thankful for them pointing out he owed taxes becuase he didnt even know. He’s never gotten a notice, says he owes like 1200 bucks and he’ll be paying it now that he knows and he’ll have to do it in payments to boot. Tune in Hanntiy. As of this writing JTP is on.

johnnyU on October 20, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Joe the Plumber will be remembered for years to come. He is the average American Joe. We met a Democrat couple from Southern Cal yesterday. We overheard them discussing Joe the Plumber at a table nearby at an upscale Inn in Central Oregon.
Their other friends were listening intently as one of them explained why Joe’s personal problems were irrelevant.

By the way, Oregon is a very blue state and I’m seeing dozens of McCain/Palin signs as we drive the highways. Yes, there are Obama signs too but I am surprised at how many McCain/Palin signs have popped up.

SayWhat on October 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM

I wish more “Joe the Plumbers”, regardless of trade, that want to start a small business that may eventually earn $250,000+, will come forward and denounce the attacks against this man and each ask Obama the same question.

iamsaved on October 17, 2008 at 7:54 PM
__________

They are, google Tito the builder from yesterday’s rally.

SayWhat on October 21, 2008 at 12:54 PM

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