Exactly! So why aren’t you pushing for everybody to pay the same regardless of how much they make? Why tax success? You live in america, we send you the bill. If we need 300 million in spending, everybody should pay 1$. It would make the system way easier. Flat fee (not rate!) for everyone

mycowardice on October 16, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Because then the taxman would be like “popeye” or debtor prisons would become all the rage.

We rebelled against England for a sub 2% tax as it impacted most people….Scranton Joe is barking up the wrong tree….Taxation is an evil but a necessary one inasmuch as there are duties the feds are expected to perform. Income taxation is an affront to logic however as it penalizes as currently rendered success. If the “number needed” required a true base operating budget of a federal government that acted strictly within its Constitutional broach was 17-22% then everyone should pay that so the poor take a bigger interest in politics beyond “who gwone give me de refundooble kredit?’ The fiercest poison we have as a society is not the “free market” it is the freeloader Markers who target those who work hard and suceed for punitive taxation.

Any government rish enough to give you whatever you want has most assuredly marked everything you have for future reference on “need”.

jgapinoy on October 16, 2008 at 5:05 PM

Across the board – agree with you there

And that bs about 20K for everybody regardless of income is pathetic. How ’bout 10% on everybody, regardless of income. You’re so balls out for ‘fairness’. Let’s really be fair and let EVERYBODY share the load equally. And that includes the nearly 35% that currently pays no income taxes at all… you know, the ones Obambi wants to give ‘tax credits’ to, even though they don’t contribute.

Useless parasites. Screw socialism. The best anybody could reasonably ask for is the mere opportunity to succeed and that’s what people will do anything to get to this country are after. I have no use for those who would sponge off society and then berate me because I’m not paying enough taxes to suit them.

techno_barbarian on October 16, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Exactly! So why aren’t you pushing for everybody to pay the same regardless of how much they make? Why tax success? You live in america, we send you the bill. If we need 300 million in spending, everybody should pay 1$. It would make the system way easier. Flat fee (not rate!) for everyone

In any event, if you get into the socialist warfare argument, then why should we even have a tax rate? Why should you pay more taxes if you make 400k rather than 40k or 4k? Why shouldn’t we simply divide the tax bill equally across everyone? So say charge everyone with a 20k tax bill, regardless of how much they make.

mycowardice on October 16, 2008 at 11:50 AM

You really are a clueless idiot, aren’t you. The Obambi campaign isn’t getting it’s money’s worth with you.

The fact is that we shouldn’t have any income tax at all. It was supposed to be a temporary tax to provide for the rollout of the telephone system way back when. But guess what? The government decided that it wouldn’t be temporary after all.

And that bs about 20K for everybody regardless of income is pathetic. How ’bout 10% on everybody, regardless of income. You’re so balls out for ‘fairness’. Let’s really be fair and let EVERYBODY share the load equally. And that includes the nearly 35% that currently pays no income taxes at all… you know, the ones Obambi wants to give ‘tax credits’ to, even though they don’t contribute.

Useless parasites. Screw socialism. The best anybody could reasonably ask for is the mere opportunity to succeed and that’s what people will do anything to get to this country are after. I have no use for those who would sponge off society and then berate me because I’m not paying enough taxes to suit them.

LastRick on October 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM

About everyone of the comment I read after that post were all saying that it was not right to have done that. I would not call that ‘some minority of posters’.

Maybe you could also point at the dozens of commenters after that comment that said it was not the right thing to do, etc.

mycowardice on October 16, 2008 at 12:21 PM

If I thought that this was an isolated instance, I would point it out. I read DailyKos multiple times per day — don’t ban me from here, please — and this is not the exception over there, this is the rule. You pointing out that some minority of posters over there took exception doesn’t change the fact that that site is a hub of malice and hate.

But Joe is making too much money.

Jim Treacher on October 16, 2008 at 3:30 PM

He’s not modern gentry, but a yeoman who puts on airs old boy….

What did Obama make, like $4 million?

But Joe is making too much money.

I’m not sure what it means about your position on the tax structure… You are saying we shouldn’t have any income taxes at all?

mycowardice on October 16, 2008 at 12:06 PM

This nation functioned perfectly well when income taxes were an emergency war measure thanks. The difference is people were expected to provide for themselves and did for the most part. Our government takes between 15-25 of all wealth generation each year from our economy and still it is not enough, I am beginning to suspect it never will be.

Every cause becomes an emergency and the link to a better tomorrow artficially propped up from true competition because of the superstate using its ungodly concentration of wealth and regulatory power to kill all alternatives to whatever “the next BIG idea is. Were the stakes not getting so high it would be amusing to do a hard analysis in a scholarly fashion of how many cases of “just a few more regulations and it’ll be perfect”. Fact is our sysytem as currently set up is so horribly inefficient in delivery of “fairness” that were it a tax-exempt organization it would be under serious investigation by the IRS.

There is no magic way to “eliminate the middleman” when taking my wealth to give to you.

The federal bueracracy ALWAYS gets its 20-70% cut in the flow of budget to aid.

Or was it her “I don`t understand this common sense stuff you`re saying” look?

I am Joe, the plumber!!!

Maxx on October 16, 2008 at 1:21 P

*stands up and declares* I am Joe the plumber too!”

Joe the Plumber plugs leaks and Joe Biden leaks plugs.

carbon_footprint on October 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM

That’s really too good.

Imagine that, coming from a smooth talker like Barack “ShamWow” Obama…