AP: FBI launches investigation of ACORN for voter fraud

posted at 1:23 pm on October 16, 2008 by Allahpundit

A nationwide investigation, do note.

A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday. A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.

Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because regulatons forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.

Meanwhile, Brunner clutches her database of mismatched registration forms and begs Justice Stevens not to make her turn it over to the county election boards. And here’s FNC this morning following the boss’s lead with some airtime for the Palestra story about shenanigans on Brownlee Avenue. A prosecutor’s investigating that, too. Exit question: What if the feds come back and report that they’ve found some cases of fraud but nothing on a mass scale? Will that conclusion be accepted or is the “ACORN’s fixing the election” meme already too far gone?


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I’m going to start producing t-shirts now.

selected not elected

re-elect McCain 2012

every vote should count…
…at least once

neal7 on October 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM

I assume McCain didn’t get too heavy on ACORN last night because he knew what the FBI was about to do.

Waterboarding, baby.

Coronagold on October 16, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Rush warned us to not put too much stock in this and that we should prepare ourselves for them to come out before the election and say there was nothing there.

powerpro on October 16, 2008 at 1:35 PM

That might be true, given the Bush Justice Dept.’s approach to Sandy Berger, Mary Whatherface at the CIA and John Walker Lindh (the latter two who should have been charged with treason with the death penalty sought). They don’t have the balls to go hard after leftwingers that screw the country.

Of course, they were willing to let the left run wild with the whole “Plame was a spy that was outed” meme and ended up letting Lewis Libby get convicted in a perjury trap.

thirteen28 on October 16, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Not Rassmussen tracking. I looked at the 2004 race they had it within a couple of points for months and Bush was almost always slightly ahead. That is what worries me most… not ABC or the others but Rassmussen.

petunia on October 16, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Have you looked at Rasmussen, today?

It’s extraordinary. Independents are back to being a virtual tie. The race is O+4% with leaners, O+3% straight, and a dead even tie 41%-41% among those who are certain their choice will not change before the election.

Now keep in mind that this is a three-day running average. That means something dramatic happened in the polls yesterday. If it even holds steady for three days, we’re going to see McCain well ahead at Rasmussen.

I agree with you — I’ve been troubled by Rasmussen as well — especially with his numbers showing Independents breaking for Obama over the last week. There’s no amount of party-ID data that can change that result — if Independents don’t favor McCain, McCain can’t win. But the big movement towards McCain is showing up in yesterday’s data from ALL of the major polling companies. Something’s up.

ClintACK on October 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM

That might be true, given the Bush Justice Dept.’s approach to Sandy Berger, Mary Whatherface at the CIA and John Walker Lindh (the latter two who should have been charged with treason with the death penalty sought). They don’t have the balls to go hard after leftwingers that screw the country.

thirteen28 on October 16, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Exactly.

progressoverpeace on October 16, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Anyone think the Feds will find Obama’s $832,000.00? After all, to hear him tell it, he didn’t get anything for his money.

tgharris on October 16, 2008 at 1:33 PM

I wish someone would get a hold of the contract under which ACORN did the work for O!’s campaign. I would be surprised if an organization (CSI) subcontracted to another organization (ACORN) without some paperwork detailing the deliverables. Did ACORN work on a “man hour” basis or based on outcomes (such as number of new registrations per state)? If the latter, then all of the bogus registrations uncovered should give the Obama campaign pause — and they should be asking for a refund.

I also wonder how a non-partisan non-profit like ACORN can endorse a specific candidate from whom they received money? Seems like a conflict of interest to me.

Interestingly, I just checked Charity Navigator, a well-respected site in the professional fundraising community that evaluates charities (non-profits) based on their fiduciary responsibility to see if they had evaluated ACORN. The purpose to help help potential donors identify charities that use their donations wisely. They haven’t evaluated ACORN, but I found this short article on their website:


Wednesday, July 9, 2008
Transparency – A Tale of Two Nonprofits

I read in today’s New York Times that two nationally known nonprofits are in the news spotlight because of reports of misappropriation of agency funds. The responses of the two organizations are instructive.

ACORN (not rated by us), a community organizing group, is reported to have had approximately $1 million “embezzled” about 8 years ago. The leadership of the organization chose to tell no one, not even their Board of Directors. In fact, it is reported that they even had the person involved in the embezzlement on payroll up until June of this year! After 8 years of cover-up, in May of this year, a whistle blower “forced ACORN to disclose the embezzlement”.

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Have you looked at Rasmussen, today?

It’s extraordinary. Independents are back to being a virtual tie. The race is O+4% with leaners, O+3% straight, and a dead even tie 41%-41% among those who are certain their choice will not change before the election.

ClintACK on October 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Oh don’t worry-

I’m sure CBS will come out with a new poll showing Obama 85% McCain -35%

Hey- they just report………

FiveWays on October 16, 2008 at 2:15 PM

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BigWyo on October 16, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Have you looked at Rasmussen, today?

It’s extraordinary. Independents are back to being a virtual tie.

ClintACK on October 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Rasmussen oversamples for kitten-drowning metrosexual-bashers from Western Pennsylvania.

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:18 PM

McCain did hit Obama about ACORN last night–twice. He said that Obama had given over $800K to ACORN this year, and had given them $200K when he was on the Woods Fund board. So, tens of millions of viewers of last night’s debate know that Obama paid ACORN, and if ACORN is accused/indicted/convicted of massive voter fraud, the average voter will believe Obama is trying to cheat.

Rasmussen is currently using a turnout model of 39.3% D, 33.0% R in weighting the raw response to their polls. Previous elections since 1980 have shown no more than a 4-point advantage for Democrats. Unless there is a surge in Democrat turnout over the last seven elections, there could be a built-in 2-point bias for Obama in these polls.

Also, the results announced today were for people interviewed BEFORE the last debate. If Joe the Plumber is getting traction with the independent voters, we could see a shift toward McCain over the next three days.

Steve Z on October 16, 2008 at 2:19 PM

I agree that if Obama wins the Right should make sure that every day he is in office gets him the exact same treatment the left has given Bush. No matter what her does or does not do, his presidency is already illegitimate; just like he is. My T-Shirt Idea:
Obama The Magnificent Bastard

MikeA on October 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM

So our illustrious Republican Congress allowed this Democratic front group to be funded with taxpayer money for how long?

Congressional Republicans are MORONS!!

mylegsareswollen on October 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I agree that if Obama wins the Right should make sure that every day he is in office gets him the exact same treatment the left has given Bush.

Me too. This ACORN stuff alone would make me doubt the validity of any election that Obama wins.

Contrary to media reports, conservatives have not been angry enough.

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM

They should do sampling in areas where fraud is suspected.

If they find a trend of tomfoolery, then that area or state should be thrown out.

Anyone caught voting twice or outside of their district, should lose their U.S. Citizenship and be deported at their own expense.

TheSitRep on October 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Congressional Senate Republicans are MORONwimpS!!

fify

Seriously, though, I don’t see how this gets pinned on Republicans. There are simply too many items in the budget each year for Republicans to effectively evaluate and stop them all. ACORN’s raison d’etre is to benefit Democrats, particularly in urban centers, so there is no valid claim to be made that Republicans, en masse, supported ACORN.

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Off topic…

Caller just now on Rush: “In all honesty, do you think that McCain do have a chance?”

I can’t wait ’til O! is elected so this guy can have a free ride through college.

/sarc

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:28 PM

Wasn’t this the reason Bush fired the Attorney Generals that had the Dems all worked up? (They failed to investigate voter fraud.)

jerseyman on October 16, 2008 at 2:40 PM

This is not the ACORN I knew when I schooled them.

Fuquay Steve on October 16, 2008 at 2:46 PM

I’m going to start producing t-shirts now.

selected not elected

re-elect McCain 2012

every vote should count…
…at least once

neal7 on October 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM

“ACORN registered me 72 times and all I got was this lousy tee shirt”

fusionaddict on October 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Will that conclusion be accepted or is the “ACORN’s fixing the election” meme already too far gone?

Hey, if a pack of left-wing morons can say “9/11 was an inside job” over and over regardless of the truth, WE can “create doubt”, too. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…

Spanglemaker on October 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM

“ACORN registered me 72 times and all I got was this lousy tee shirt”

fusionaddict on October 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM

ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Acme Industrial Paper Shredders.

Get yours today!!!!

BigWyo on October 16, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Dude, it’s Acme. Nuclear holocaust couldn’t put them out of business… only a mass epedemic of humor loss. (Which I wouldn’t put past a BHO administration…)

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 16, 2008 at 3:04 PM

They should do sampling in areas where fraud is suspected.

That would be anywhere ACORN has an office. Trust me, the Acorn compound here in New Orleans is pretty close to where I work. These are not nice people who simply want to get the vote out. They clearly are working for Democrats and don’t have scruples about “legalities” like only signing up eligible voters.

highhopes on October 16, 2008 at 3:09 PM

selected not elected

neal7 on October 16, 2008 at 2:00 PM

How about, if Obama wins:

stolen not chosen

Religious_Zealot on October 16, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Not enough know or care about ACORN for it to matter one way or the other. Non issue for Joe Sixpack.

trailboss on October 16, 2008 at 1:35 PM

That’s wishful thinking by the O! campaign. The ACORN stuff is permeating the media now and shows every sign of gaining momentum — so Joe Sixpack will soon hear about it, if he hasn’t alreaday.

There is nothing more important to every day Americans than the concept of “fairness.” (That’s why negative campaigning is so risky — they can backfire if they are perceived of as “unfair.”) What ACORN has done, and continues to do, is fundamentally unfair.

On top of that, if we are to believe members of the Democrat party and the Congressional Black Caucus, the term “Joe Sixpack” is a racist one and apparently only applies to white (blue collar) people. What do you think those people will make of the workers ACORN hires and the people they register 72 times when they see them on the news?

ACORN exposes Obama for what he is — a ruthless opportunist who was groomed for this election by the Chicago political machine.

Y-not on October 16, 2008 at 3:15 PM

The question is, do Obama’s tentacles reach as far as the FBI?

Waiting …..

fogw on October 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Not likely, but the Clinton’s tentacles most certainly do. Do you suppose there are a few phone calls being made behind the scenes?

turfmann on October 16, 2008 at 3:20 PM

“ACORN registered me 72 times and all I got was this lousy tee shirt”

fusionaddict on October 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Then you was robbed. 50 votes gets you a carton of cigs.

highhopes on October 16, 2008 at 3:33 PM

What if the feds come back and report that they’ve found some cases of fraud but nothing on a mass scale? Will that conclusion be accepted or is the “ACORN’s fixing the election” meme already too far gone?

Whew! Pulled it out there at the last second, AP…

Jim Treacher on October 16, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Not enough know or care about ACORN for it to matter one way or the other.

You’d better hope not, troll.

Jim Treacher on October 16, 2008 at 4:01 PM

ACORN Tool Scott Levenson being interviewed by Cavuto now…

Buy Danish on October 16, 2008 at 4:25 PM

HOT READ:

McCain touched on it and Obama was laughing. ACORN is saying McCain camp is jamming up the voting process, when now that this is going to the Supreme Court of the U.S., maybe its ACORN thats planned on jamming the system up ahead of time all along. 200,000 trouble ballots already, but these 200,000 bad ballots didnt need to exist in the first place, so it goes back to ACORN. The red flags on this are justified. We may be looking at a Supreme Court ruled election again, so thanks Obama and ACORN for the cast of doubt already. I hope you lose as a result but I bet that wasnt part of the plan.

johnnyU on October 16, 2008 at 4:43 PM

A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.

Coordinated national registration scan? Duh, you think?? About time someone takes ACORN to the woodshed.

docdave on October 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM

How about this scenario:

The FBI investigation(s) will be shut down by the Obama administration, but not before they come up with — and leak — enough evidence of vote-rigging to convince a significant percentage of the right that Obama ‘stole’ the election. Much hilarity ensues.

Paul_in_NJ on October 16, 2008 at 5:24 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT, you write “Exit question: What if the feds come back and report that they’ve found some cases of fraud but nothing on a mass scale? Will that conclusion be accepted or is the “ACORN’s fixing the election” meme already too far gone?”

But, based on (among other sources)

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=29072

What is your true message?! What about the activities of ACORN do you NOT wish to see, and WHY NOT?!

Lockstein13 on October 17, 2008 at 6:17 AM

The immediate solution is purple fingers and, sadly, no absentee ballots except those that can be well controlled such as for soldiers overseas.

One alternative to allow absentee ballots is fingerprints on the ballots, on the registration form, and on the absentee ballot request. It’s already too late to implement except as a postmortem check on the election. Once it has taken place we are into Constitutional crisis stage.

It may already be too late to avoid it getting thrown into the House, which is as bad as letting it go ahead as it is now.

So purple fingers for all and no absentee ballots.

{o.o}

herself on October 17, 2008 at 8:51 AM

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