Report: Palin, advisors want to hit Obama on Wright, but McCain refuses
posted at 12:15 pm on October 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We already knew this based on what she said to Bill Kristol and what Salter’s allegedly said about losing honorably, but Politico puts the pieces together. The oddest aspect isn’t McCain’s reasoning — in light of that NYT poll, hitting Wright could very well backfire spectacularly — but the sense that he’s not prepared to try anything different with less than three weeks left and the polls grim. If he won’t hit Wright and he’s not planning some sort of grand economic-emergency campaign reboot, then it looks like we’re riding Ayers all the way to the finish line. The Chicago Tribune reports this morning that he has photos of Che and Mumia on his office door, so there’s something for the next ad, I guess. Or would mentioning that be racist, too?
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and several top campaign officials see a sharp attack on Wright as the best — and perhaps last — chance to rattle Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and force voters to rethink their support of him. But McCain continues to overrule them, fearing a Wright attack would smack of desperation and racism, the officials said.
With McCain unlikely to budge, GOP officials are hoping groups outside of the campaign will finance an ad attack on Obama-Wright ties. It is unclear if any conservative group has the cash to bankroll a serious effort, however.
“Wright is off the table,” said one top campaign official. “It’s all McCain. He won’t go there. His advisers would have gone there.”…
“There’s a slippery slope in politics on the racial divide, and Senator McCain made it very clear early on that he did not want to get into that area,” a top Republican official said. “I don’t want to be known as a racist, and McCain doesn’t want to be known as a racist candidate.”…
“McCain felt it would be sensed as racially insensitive,” the official said. “But more important is that McCain thinks that the bringing of racial religious preaching in black churches into the campaign would potentially have grave consequences for civil society in the United States.”
John McCormack at the Standard dialed up the American Issues Project, which produced that brutal Ayers ad last month, to see if they’re thinking of picking up the slack. Answer: A coy demurral. I’ll be shocked if we don’t see something next week. As for McCain’s fears of being called a racist, another Politico writer memorably addressed that “logic” a few days ago, as did Limbaugh on yesterday’s show. You’ll find a clip below. Tony Blankley puts it this way, appealing to Maverick’s sense of honor:
The Obama campaign has raised to a high art the technique of politically intimidating people from commenting honestly about Mr. Obama. They don’t only dishonestly play the race card; almost the entire deck from which they deal is filled with race cards – and threats of litigation. Real racism is appalling, but the act of falsely charging racism undercuts the very causes of equality and tolerance.
As courageous as Mr. McCain’s life has been to date, the next three weeks may be his most heroic. He must do his duty and alert the public – despite the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” that will be shot into his back as he does so.
Exit question: If bringing up Wright is such a grave threat to civil society, how’d civil society survive the three-week orgy of media coverage of him back in March?
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A BHO Presidency is a clear threat to this nation. If McCain doesn’t see that, then I’m not sure what he’s thinking of. He could have easily explained that Americans should be scared of anti-growth economic policies that will destroy the US economy and financial system – as they already started with the social engineering in our economy that brought us the FMFM debacle and tried to do with their idiotic attempt to slow us down for global warming crap (Oh, McCain likes that crap). He can say that Americans should be scared of someone who espouses socialist views, antithetical to everything our Founders ever stood for and which have killed every society stupid enough to put them into practice. McCain could acknowledge that, given the precarious state of our monetary system (thanks to liberal social engineering and political/racial strong-arming) we have to be even more careful about the character of the person who will sit in the Oval Office …
McCain could have said lots of things, but chose, instead, to praise BHO and talk about why he wouldn’t be a bad President.
I don’t know how that hits you, but it really chaps my azz, beside the fact that it indicates a clear fear of simply stating the truth.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:06 PM
FiveWAys:
I am not napping and I don’t think McCain is either.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM
This nicey-nice crap isn’t going to work anymore. You either point out FACTS and keep nailing them down or go home.
Facts matter. Associations, actions, choices, judgements, and character matter.
Yes, you need to spell out what your plans and policies are going to be and how they differ from (and are better than) your opponent’s plans and policies. HOWEVER, you have to balance that with a strong helping of facts about your opponent — what he has done in his political past, etc.
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM
So the democrats use the word “erratic” to describe McCain with the false and obvious smear that he is old and prone to outbursts.
and Five Ways seems to want to start a new “Zzzzzzzzzzz” theme with McCain as a tactic to do … pretty much the same. Congratulations, Five ways. The democrats are so very proud of you for helping them with their cause.
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM
McCain- “My friends….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………”
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:08 PM
eanax:
I don’t think it is nicey crap that is hurting him, it is the economy and he has no real control over that.
In fact it seems that some of the attacks on Ayers might have actually backfired. Hillary went negative too and still lost.
This does not mean that attack ads can’t work, but the public has heard about Ayers and Rezko and Wright…if McCain is going to go after Obama it needs to be in some different sort of way.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:09 PM
That is what I referenced and it is one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever heard. You seem to not be bothered by it. Good for you. It bothers me, intensely. And it is WRONG, to boot. Dead wrong.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Five Ways:
Like I said with friends like you the Democrats are a lot closer to power. They don’t need to go after McCain, not when they have folks like you eager and willing to do it for them.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Oh but, I thought McMaverick was going to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! in the first two debates?
Did I miss something there?
But hey, third times a charm right?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:11 PM
God forbid anyone would dare criticize how McCain’s campaign is being run.
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:12 PM
BTW Five Ways, Gingrich would not stand a snow balls in hell against Obama. He had to resign his own office and during the last primary could not muster more than 3% among Republicans.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:13 PM
There- all better.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:13 PM
eanax:
That is all they do, complain, piss, moan..
As if we are all experts.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
And you seem to not be able to read.
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM
re: McCain / Wright. Since there has been so much speculation about why McCain is saying hands off, we’ll have to wait for his memoirs. Whether he doesn’t want to beat a dead horse or stir up more hatred from the MSM, they are both good reasons to leave Wright off the table.
re: McCain’s will to win. I think he does have the will to win. Again, I’m not sure he knows how to get his message across without sounding like a typical politician. He’s had his moments, though, including his Palin pick. I guess I’m disappointed in how he could not keep the momentum going. I know the economy hurt that momentum.
While I don’t believe we should support any candidate like mindless robots I don’t think we should unnecessarily bash him either – since we will never have the insight that he does.
Mr_Magoo on October 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Why Terrye, did YOU just attack another Republican, who is actually MORE CONSERVATIVE than McMaverick?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM
FiveWays;
All better?
Like I said, eating their own.
You are right, if McCain was not the candidate and it was {fill in the blank} we would win this thing easy.
Never mind the generic advantage Democrats have, never mind the economy, it is the fault of the Republican candidate. And it would be the fault of the Republican candidate no matter who it was. Why we don’t even need to think about the Democrats, lets just all sit here at our computers and bitch about McCain.
After all, if only he would run some attack ads on Wright, the American people would forget all about the other stuff.
Wright is old news.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:19 PM
So I should disregard your complaining, pissing, and moaning- huh Terrye?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Got PROOF that the Ayers facts are hurting McCain? You just said it’s the economy that’s hurting McCain. So, why not hit home about the laundry list of shady associations, deals, etc. that McCain’s opponent has been involved with? How about continuing to hit home on his record of voting “Present”? There is a TON of material out there that needs to be constantly pointed out and repeated.
Maybe, just maybe, then some folks might start to think that ol’ Barak isn’t all that he’s being portrayed as.
Again, facts are a b!tch. And they are very effective if they are employed in a strategic and smart manner.
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Five WAys:
It would be fine with me if you would disregard my pissing and moaning. Go right ahead. Do your thing.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Don’t bother with him. He’s clearly deranged.
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Don’t waste your breath on eanax. There’s no way a libertarian would vote for McCain, no matter what McCain did. You’d have more success trying to talk sense into alphie.
Fortunately, the libertarians are irrelevant this election cycle, thanks in part to Paul’s inability to play nicely with Barr in the sandbox.
A slight edit but otherwise “ditto” from me.
Y-not on October 15, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Well, that’s no way to talk about McMaverick……..
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
“unable” to read. Yes, I read that. I was not addressing the arab terrorist part, though BHO has associations with enough terrorist supporters that, by the “Bush doctrine”, and general common sense, that puts BHO right in there.
The important part was McCain assuring people that BHO would be an okay President, and that is just untrue. Again, you don’t seem so bothered by that statement, as you are want to keep diverting to the arab terrorist part that I did not talk about, at all.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
eanax:
Well actually I saw a post at powerline to effect that Ayers might be hurting him, so no I do not have proof.
I am just saying that going after Obama on a lot of stuff that people have heard about and don’t seem to much care about might be hurting McCain when they are concerned about the economy. That is what they are thinking about and caring about.
So all of this might seem out of touch to them.
It might be better to stick with the whole share the wealth issue, taxes, stuff like that.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Since McCain and Palin went all in on Ayers their poll numbers have continued to slide and McCain’s negatives have gone up. (In fact, their numbers have been sliding since Palin started putting her foot in her mouth.) Wright is not only a known quantity to most Americans because he plastered on the 24/7 news cycle earlier this year, but Obama’s response to that blow-up is considered by many to be a big positive for him. Throwing Wright in now would look desperate and, in fact, it is desperate. Most Americans do feel desperate right now, but it’s about the economy. But if you want to throw McCain a bag of cement at this point, that’s your (W)right.
okonkolo on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
You don’t have to be an expert to be involved in politics. And why would you even believe such a silly notion?
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM
At every opportunity, McCain should refer to reputable internet sources where people can get information that reinforces his points or discredits Obama. I find the debates and stump speeches largely useless. Both sides seem to be lying, and I know Obama and Biden do so continuously. McCain should be armed with quick citations to authority that people can flood to online. One thing the public seems to agree on is that MSM is keeping it in the dark, so McCain should flat out say so and point them in the right direction.
For example, McCain should point to the internet to debunk the notion that the credit crisis is a problem of deregulation in the financial industry (BS and WSJ has written so recently). McCain should contrast their efforts on reining in Fannie and Freddie (Powerline has the May 2006 letter McCain and others sent to Senate leadership regarding the issue; Obama helped block their efforts, picked his nose, and finally sent a lame letter in 2007 after 25 banks had failed).
On tax policy, McCain should refer to the recent articles calling Obama’s “tax cut” welfare for half of those recipients. He should point to the “spreading the wealth” video. He should also point to the articles that have corrected the Dems’ distortion of his health plan.
On abortion, there are two devastating articles (very recent) about Obama’s extremism on the issue: one in Newsweek (yes) and another by Robert George (getting some buzz at NRO).
On Ayers and Obama’s failure at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, McCain needs to make Stanley Kurtz’s name a household word. Heck, the August 2003 Annenberg Report is online. On Obama in general, McCain needs to make David Fredosso’s name a household word.
I’m sure that there are other sources. Heck, I forgot about Acorn–where do you begin and end on that subject alone?
The point is to state his case plainly and also to plant the seeds of doubt and provide reputable places to go to inquire. McCain needs to turn to the sources that can back up his argument. The MSM isn’t helping.
McCain needs to come at Obama on all fronts: by sea, over land, and from the air. He shouldn’t get mired in national security except to throw Jackson’s comments in Obama’s face and to remind voters of Obama’s squishiness on Israel in the past. McCain can’t afford to waste time talking about who was right on Iraq and who was right on the surge.
Cite authorities for further inquiry. Get Middle America asking, “Who is this guy?”
BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Five WAys:
For every single post of yours I have seen that says anything remotely negative about Obama, it seems like I have seen 6 that say something nasty about McCain or some other Republican..just sayin, that with friends like you…
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM
That is what MCCAIN WAS TALKING ABOUT IN HIS REPLY TO HER!!!!!
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I am convinced that the economy is a waste of time for McCain, he cannot win this year on that issue and that is why Obama and his goons keep trying to bring him back to it.
I think the campaign could get a lot of mileage with extensive ad campaign focusing on two themes:
1) Remind people how little we know about Obama. No accomplishments, no record and at the same contrast it with the fact that the little we do know is disturbing. Drive this home with a different issue on each add (Fanny May, Ayers, ACORN, Wright, Raines, Infanticide, Most liberal record, etc). Make people really feel the risk of electing an unknown with this pattern of associations.
2) Show the electorate what the future will look like with Obama plus Reid and Pelosi with supermajorities. Use lots of photos of the three. Remind people he is the most liberal candidate for president ever and Reid/Pelosi run the most liberal and unpopular congress ever. Emphasize the lack of checks and balances that we will have in government. People do worry about that.
neuquenguy on October 15, 2008 at 1:26 PM
That’s the point I was trying to make before. He’s just not a grand vision kind of guy and it is showing IMO in how he interprets “stand up and fight”. It seems to me McCain has always been a “nuts and bolts” kind of guy who is used to doing his fighting in small groups (and sometimes behind closed doors). He will be a good nuts and bolts POTUS and will work hard – but how do you present that in a campaign and get people excited enough to come out and vote? Hopefully the majority will see the danger of an Obama, get out and vote. In fact, I thought McCain was best when he presented Obama as a dangerous choice.
Mr_Magoo on October 15, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Oh I will, I’ll vote for McCain on Nov 4th….and if he loses…..I’ll always wonder what would have happened if he actually FOUGHT for this election……..You know, if he actually ATTACKED OBAMA, AND KEPT HITTING HIM OVER AND OVER DURING ANY OF THE DEBATES……………
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:26 PM
“okonkolo on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM”
disagree that wright may be desperate, but in either case acorn is what needs to be emphasized. cnn [yes, that cnn] is running negative acorn stories — this could have SERIOUS legs if John were to hammer on it tonite …
Buckaroo on October 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM
McCain should say:
Mr. Obama, you said in your book, and I quote, “I chose my friends carefully.. The Chicanos… The Marxists professors…”
Well, Mr. Obama you have been choosing your friends carefully during your entire career.
You chose to join a radical church led by Rev Wright after you heard him say hateful and racist comments in his first sermon.
You chose as your mentor Bill Ayers, a radical who bombed our national symbols and to this day wishes he could do more.
And finally, you chose your political supporter Rezko who was recently convicted of fraud, bribery and kickbacks.
Mr. Obama, these are your only mentors. And you chose them all very carefully.
The voters will decide if your judgment is sound.
faraway on October 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Buckeye;
That is a good idea, but so many people still get their news from TV and the 30 second ads are not really a good way to discuss complex economic issues. It is too bad that we can not count on the media to do its job on these kinds of issues.
But I have been surprised at how many news stories I have seen lately discussing issues like ACORN and early Democrat involvement of rule changes in Fannie Mae. I am not sure what that is about.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:28 PM
So because of my criticism of McCain’s wimpy-ass response to a Marxist Elistist Barry Hussein Obama who will destroy this country in short order- I naturally MUST BE an Obama supporter?
Really? And that brain of your’s got you a job?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
:sigh:
Your level of reading comprehension is absolutely abysmal. It’s worthless engaging with you about anything that has to do with McCain’s campaign.
To put it simply for you, one does not have to say that someone will be a fine President in order to fight a claim that he is an arab terrorist (though he is a supporter of arab terrorists). Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
My my my… what a huge team of astroturfers today….
CC
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Five Ways:
Oh please, what do you want the man to do? Call Obama out for a duel?
And don’t give me some ambiguous crap about fighting, that can mean anything. People do not always see those things the same way.
So, you want attack ads on Johnson and Raines and Ayers…McCain did that. Do you want the people of the United States to see and hear video of Wright screaming God Damn America at the top of his lungs? They did.
Do you want McCain to egg on supporters at rallies when they call Obama a terrorist or an Arab and really get the crowd going so the media can put it on TV with serious people yammering about the Angry Right???
I mean, I keep hearing all this stuff about fighting, but exactly what does that mean?
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Look at me-
I’m pissed that McMaverick has fought like a school-girl in the first two debates- and I see no reason to believe he won’t do the same tonight.
OBVIOUSLY- I’m a secret Obama supporter!
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM
It means not being scared about speaking the truth.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Ask McCain, Terrye- those WERE HIS WORDS.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM
You seem to be delighting in trashing mccain.
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
So McCain has you just as confused as he is huh- Terrye.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM
As for the debates, in the last one a lot of this never came up thanks to Tom Brokaw and in the first one McCain did hit Obama on several things.
But people seem to think that the average American just does not know about all this, they do..they just don’t give a damn. it is obvious that is not hurting Obama. Maybe the problem is not that McCain is not hitting Obama hard enough on Wright and Ayers, maybe the problem is that people are indifferent. So hitting it hard does not help. Not so far anyway.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Actually- I’m pissed that Obama, along with a DEMOCRAT MAJORITY is about to take full control of this country.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Well, you’re wrong.
As it stands, right now, I’m waiting to see if McCain will actually become invigorated and get in the political game. So far, he’s been lackluster — save the choice of Palin. I’m a registered Independent. I could choose to vote for McCain in Novemeber instead of Libertarian, but he’s got to show some true grit and willingness to win this election.
If not, he won’t get my vote…
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM
That’s what I hoped he meant.
Spirit of 1776 on October 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM
wise-man, McCain seems to be delighting in NOT GOING AFTER OBAMA HARD IN THE DEBATES.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM
He was replying to her accusation that Obama is not a arab. This was not a TV spot where McCain glowing supports Obama. The only time in the campaign that came remotely close was when McCain sent out a TV spot to congratulate Obama on winning the nomination. What you take from the words that he used to try to inject some sanity into the ‘Obama is a dirty aye-rab’ — and then try to make it into something that it is not while taking this out of the context that is is — and repeatedly claiming that I am not getting it, it yes, a complete and utter wast of time. My time in attempting to set the record straight with you.
just like so many other people here who have demonstrated their absolute and complete lack of intelligence when dealing with these issues, and seeking to throw McCain under their bus because they supposedly want him to fight, to win, and since he is not living up to their standards of how to do this … they want to see him defeated. Makes ABSOLUTE perfect goddamned sense,.
wise_man on October 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Five WAys:
No, actually you have me confused. I live in Indiana, a conservative state that has gone Republican in every presidential as far back as I can remember. Dole even beat Clinton here.
These people don’t want McCain to do crappy ads about Obama, they could care less. There is talk that Obama could carry this state. Mitch Daniels the Republican governor is in a tight race with a Demcocrat. The issues here are not Wright and Ayers.
So I am confused about why Republicans are wasting their time fighting each other when they have bigger problems to deal with.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM
An excellent example of what ought to be done.
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Wise: You can only draw one of two conclusions. Either they have such an ego that they think they have the very original idea that McCain is screwing up OR they are astroturfers. The difference between the two is Z-E-R-O
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Yeah Terrye? Really?
Well I live in Central Illinois and I’ve been living in a Democrat Socialist Regime for years, and I know how painful this election will be-
but I don’t think McCain understands this.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I thought McCain did well in the debates Five Ways. Do you want him to accuse Obama of being a dirty Marxist or something? I think if you had your way, McCain would end up even further behind. I really do.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Putting this story out keeps Wright in the headlines without the campaign going through the trouble of bringing him up.
obladioblada on October 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Okay. I’m done. You think McCain did well…………
And you accuse ME of being an Obama troll?
Really?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM
So blame Brokow? That’s a cop-out. McCain can speak directly to the people, the voters. Palin did it in her debate, as other candidates have done in the past.
McCain’s hesitancy to go there is the only thing holding him back. Ol’ John is the underdog right now. If he doesn’t fight, then there’s no point to rest of the campaign. It’s all academic from here on out…
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Five Ways:
Central Illinois? I am taking lectures on fighting back from someone from central Illinois? If your state had not made Obama a Senator in the first damn place we would not be talking about McCain not going after him. So maybe rather than just complaining about McCain…you should be spending your time and energy cleaning up the political system that helped create him and put him on the national scene in the first damn place.
Sheesh, the worse Indiana has done is Bayh. At least he is not a socialist.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I saw the whole scene, more than a few times. I know what McCain could have said and what he chose to say. He chose to praise BHO as a decent man (which I disagree with, strongly) which had nothing to do with the concerns of the questioner.
Like I said, BHO is not an arab terrorist, but he is friends and buddies with tons of arab terrorists and arab terrorist supporters (like the good church he attended for a mere 20 years) and people are rightly concerned about that.
No one is trying to throw McCain under the bus, but to get him to fight. This is one of the most important elections in history and it should not be treated like some run-of-the-mill happening. The future of the US is heavily dependent on the outcome and it would be nice if McCain understood that, or at least acted as if he understood that.
BHO is willing to burn the US if he loses. We know that because he’s been pushing the race card since he started, talking about “quiet riots” and the threats lurking in the future. But McCain feels that it’s more important to assure people that BHO will be a decent President. Someone needs to straighten McCain out, or we all lose, and lose horribly. People have no clue what anti-growth policies will do to our monetary system and how that will affect our society. For those who have an inkling, it is truly scary stuff. Truly scary.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM
eanax:
Not it is not cop out. Brokaw’s debate was a town hall debate and there were certain questions asked that had to be answered. It seemed to me that McCain did well in both debates. I know he did not call Obama any names or yell at him or accuse him of any crimes or get in his face like weird Al did with Bush in 2000, but McCain did make his points.
I am hoping that the debate tonight will offer more opportunities to talk about things that can help McCain.
I have noticed that even in the VP debate certain issues that work for conservatives were just avoided.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM
You’re an idiot Terrye. You really are.
I live in CENTRAL ILLINOIS.
CHICAGO ALWAYS OUT-WEIGH’S OUR VOTES DOWN STATE BY SHEER POPULATION.
Do you understand that?
Can you understand how sore our down-state asses are?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Five Ways:
Your idea of McCain doing well would be him in Obama’s face screaming like some demented loon.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Five Ways:
Yeah, right. You poor baby. McCain should be able to save all of America from Barack Obama, but the Republicans in Illinois can not manage to keep him out of the Senate. Nosiree, who did they run against him in the election there?
Keyes, for Chrisake. Why not just hand it to him on a sliver platter?
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 1:54 PM
No no no, Terrye.
McMaverick should just keep doing what he’s doing.
You know, make an accusation with no follow-up. Let Obama simply deny it. Don’t refute Barry’s lies with follow-up facts in the form of a question. No No No.
McMaverick should just keep doing what he’s doing……it’s working really swell…….
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM
F-A-C-T-S are a b!tch, and they need to be repeated again and again so they sink in. Don’t you get it?
Why do you think the Left still goes on and on about “Bush lied” at every opportunity they get? They know the importance of hammering home a mantra in persuading people and changing their minds.
Turn this classic propaganda technique on its head. Reapeat FACTS often enough about your opponent until people realize that there actually is something there. Give them things to look into and discover…
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM
That was the National RNC that pulled that move AFTER the DNC did a hit against Jack Ryan.
But hey Terrye- thanks for turning on all of the Republicans here in Illinois, for the sake of defending McMaverick’s wimpy-ass campaign.
Great priority’s there…..
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3CdSZRKu0
Team McCain is missing the point. Hammering on Ayers will do NOTHING unless they specify that it is his uber-Left background that is the problem. Sure, he blew up buildings and seven people died, but that’s actually not the main point.
WHY did Obama move to Chicago in the first place? He’s not from there. He went there because it was the birthplace of “community organizing,” the concept of civil disruption invented by Saul ‘The Red” Alinsky. But there’s even more.
Obama studied Alinsky at Harvard. He was trained by Alinsky-based organizations and then trained those very same concepts. Alsinsky disciple McKnight wrote a letter of recommendation to Harvard for Obama. Obama has since worked with even more socialists, and his replacement for the crazy Rev. Wright is even farther left Rev. Jim Wallis.
Given these relationships it is easy to see Obama’s true self. What scares the hell out of me is not only him winning, but the thought of who he might appoint once elected. Spread the word, this is serious stuff and the mindless masses simply aren’t doing the research.
Spread the link to everyone you can, liberal or conservative. People are being duped by a great smile and a media spend like no other. Obama is buying the White House.
cannonball on October 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM
eanax:
The left goes around with the Bush lied message because the media reinforces it and Republicans are too willing to abandon Bush to put up much of a fight themselves.
I do know what you mean about facts, but most people will not consider Obama Marxist no matter what facts McCain comes up with. The word liberal does not even carry the same baggage it once did.
McCain said that Obama wants to raise taxes and increase spending. Those are facts. No doubt about that.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM
You’re wrong and that’s just a load of crap. McCain can look at that person in the Townhall meeting, and then to the American public at home, and say, “That’s something I’d like to talk about to you about, sir/madam, and to the American public at home…”
That bypasses that pompous ass Brokow and goes straight to the American people. The problem, ultimately, with McCain is he cares way too much what the media thinks of him. And that’s not very “maverick” of him at all…
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 2:01 PM
It seems that you forget why Keyes was running there. BHO and his campaign helped force a private divorce proceeding to be made public – among the most despicable of acts. Not unlike the way BHO won his earlier races, though there he only got names purged from petitions to force the candidates to leave the race (interesting given how ACORN is working, these days …).
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:01 PM
cannonball:
Most people do not know or care about Saul Alinsky either. I am sorry, but I honestly do not think that any of that matters. We have Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. If people are willing to tolerate her without kicking half the Democrats out of office why would they care about a guy they never heard of like Saul Alinsky?
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:03 PM
I don’t see this debate on the economy as the place to bring up Wright. I have argued all along that McCain needs to kick Obama in the throat early and often. But you know any comment on Wright or Ayers tonight will be deflected with Obama stating something to the effect that Americans are more concerned with the economy then with mud slinging.
He missed his chance to do it in the debate last time. He nneeds to get on the air Wright’s g.d. America line, that Flegler idiot going on about Hillary, quotes from Ayers and a mention of Chicago being Obama’s ACORN roots and it’s residents being taxed nearly 50% of their income.
grdred944 on October 15, 2008 at 2:03 PM
eanax:
Yeah, right. What was I thinking? McCain should simply ignore the debate and the debate rules and go off on some tangent about Obama until they cut him off with a commercial break.
I can just imagine the senile old man jokes we would get out that. Did he know he was in a debate???
The truth is the best thing that could happen to McCain would be if Rezko starting talking specifics and Obama got dragged into some real legal trouble.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Meh. The economy is in such problems now because of the social engineering that was forced on it. That dovetails exactly with Wright and Ayers and the rest of the lunatics and shows what lies ahead with a BHO Presidency.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM
progreeoverpeace:
No, I did not forget. Obama has a knack for knocking off the opposition. I know all about the divorce records being made public…but in all of Illinois they could not find one real honest to God sane local Republican to run in his place?
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Personally, McCain should quote “the plummer” and Obama’s response and let Obama explain THAT for a while. He doesn’t have to even say the “S” word. McCain can just expand on what “share the wealth” actually looks like.
Game over.
Mr_Magoo on October 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM
“Stand up, stand up and fight amongst yourselves!”
SouthernDem on October 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM
progressoverpeace:
Wright is a nasty piece of work, and no doubt all the moves to give loans to low income people did play into our economic problems. I think a lot of people know that. I was surprised to even hear people like Alec Baldwin placing blame on Democrats, but people are concerned about the here and now. I think they blame both parties for all of this.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Tell me Terrye- in all of the U.S. we could not find one real honest to God sane Republican to run for POTUS?
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Mr._Magoo:
Yes. The plumber is onto something.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:15 PM
“Stand up, stand up and fight amongst yourselves….I’ll be in the bus napping…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz”
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Not against those tactics, the Chicago machine, and the extremely long odds of winning, I guess.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Just like the race for POTUS- isn’t it……….
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM
That would work.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Sadly so.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Five Ways:
Now that I know you are from Obama’s state, I better understand your dislike toward his opposition.
As for a better candidate..well if folks such as yourself could stop fighting amongst yourselves long enough to get behind a guy and stick with him, maybe you would be complaining about some other Republican today.
Whatever, your constant complaints about McCain at this point can only hurt the party you claim to support.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Not if the McCaign campaign gets wind of it and changes their tactics to something more reasonable and truthful.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:20 PM
So, if the people of Illinois will not go up against the Chicago machine, what are the rest of us supposed to do about it?
It took Katrina to break the hold the Democrats had on the state house in Louisiana. What will it take for the people of Illinois to go up against Daley and his friends?
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Terry:
At this stage, it is a reasonable assumption that all the “nay sayers” are trolls or astroturfers. There is an additional object of keeping the Democrats BELOW 60 seats in the Senate. The efforts of bash McCain can only work to DECREASE turnout and help the Democrats get their 60 seats… Keep up the fight.
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Federal indictments and long jail terms. Have you seen the population distribution of Chicago?
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM
progreeoverpeace:
Assuming that the people doing the complaining actually have any ideas that can work.
It is easy to sit at a computer and think you have all the answers, it is something else to make any of them work.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM
We are all offering nothing but our opinions. Some are better than others, like some campaign tactics are better than others. Time will tell, as it has been doing.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM
progressoverpeace:
So, I see the people are helpless. Only the federal government can save them. They can not think for themselves, they can not vote the way they want. Nope, their only hope is that the Untouchables come in and clean out their dirty corrupt little state.
Silly me, I actually thought the people had the power.
It does not seem that the people of Chicago have any problem with guys like Ayers and Wright and his friends. They do not seem at all perturbed by the anti Americanism of much of their leadership.
Makes you wonder.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I think Palin should go REALLY “maverick” and do it anyway!
MsUnderestimated on October 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM
progressovepeace:
Well yeah, but then again some people are offering their opinions with a little more malice and force than others.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:26 PM
CC:
Yes, that is true. I really hope the Democrats do not get 60 seats.
Terrye on October 15, 2008 at 2:28 PM
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