Debate preview: What do McCain, Obama have to do tonight?
posted at 1:10 pm on October 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Tonight we have the final presidential debate for the 2008 cycle, and if you’re in the Twin Cities area, we have some party ready for you! AM1280 The Patriot will host a debate party at Trocadero’s in Minneapolis tonight. The Northern Alliance Radio Network will emcee an evening of fun and politics, including my radio partner Mitch Berg, Power Line, SCSU Scholars, and Fraters Libertas. We’ll have free appetizers and a cash bar. The debate goes from 8pm CST to 9:30pm CST and doors will open around 7:30pm. Admission is free – but please RSVP at the handy AM1280 RSVP Page so we can plan accordingly.
You won’t miss anything at Hot Air, either, if you’re not able to make it to the party. We’ll have a live chat room running during the debate, with Jazz Shaw and Lady Logician moderating a cast of thousands — literally! We may have a few other surprises for you, so stay tuned!
With John McCain stalled in the polls and Barack Obama riding comfortably at the moment, this debate becomes all about McCain. He has to convince people that Obama isn’t ready to lead this nation, and that he can build a bipartisan coalition better than Obama can. Why? Because the election is, as always, in the hands of people who do not identify strongly on partisan or ideological grounds. McCain can only win this election if he can convince people that an Obama presidency would be a disaster on economic grounds — which is the main focus for Americans in the wake of the financial collapse.
McCain has to do the following if he expects to score a big enough victory tonight:
- Be aggressive. McCain has to both make a positive case for himself and a negative case against Obama. That will take a lot of effort and time, and McCain can’t waste time on the niceties. We know he respects Obama. He doesn’t have to tell us again.
- Attack the fundamental assumptions of Obama’s populism. McCain cannot win by being more of a populist than Obama. Instead of Teddy Roosevelt, he needs a dose of Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan tonight. He has to fight the false “deregulation” narrative that Obama and the Democrats have created for the Fannie/Freddie collapse and tell the truth about the government intervention in lending markets that created the bubble and the rest of the failures that followed. If he can’t do that, McCain will not prevail.
- Talk abortion and gun control. Even if Bob Schieffer follows the lead of Jim Lehrer, Gwen Ifill, and Tom Brokaw in embargoing discussion on these points, McCain has to find a way to broach these subjects. Obama has a radical record on abortion and life issues that is far to the left of the mainstream in America. He also has a record of supporting far-reaching gun control laws. These issues provide McCain the quickest, most effective way to expose Obama as a hard-Left ideologue out of step with the American people.
- Foreign policy. It may not matter as much to Americans in the midst of a financial crisis, but McCain can and should tie that to American foreign policy, especially on trade. Obama’s protectionist impulses could lead to another Smoot-Hawley strategy and a worldwide depression. McCain has demonstrated strength in this area and needs to keep it alive as a debate topic tonight.
For Obama, the task is easier. He’s ahead by most measures and has to ensure that he doesn’t do anything to damage his standing:
- Maintain poise. Everyone knows McCain will go on the attack tonight. Obama can’t take the bait like he did in the first debate and argue from the defensive all night. He can parry, but would do better to stick to his own policies.
- Don’t stutter. Obama did well in the first two debates on this score.
- Stick to domestic economic policy. So far, that’s been his strength. His populism has attracted voters, but now he needs to sound some moderate points in order to reach the undecideds.
- Talk in general themes, not specifics. Obama has shown that he gets trapped in the weeds when trying to talk specifics, stumbling over his words and sometimes contradicting himself (and reality). He needs to stick to themes and concepts and project competence and rationality.
Which man will succeed? And will it make any difference in the election? We’ll find out soon enough…
Update: ABC reports on Obama’s strategy, thanks to a leaked memo: McCain’s insane. They may still pull defeat from the jaws of victory.










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plus an open thread?
Spirit of 1776 on October 15, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Yes 2 threads. 1 chat room and one an open thread.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:12 PM
McCain should pull a Spock’s Brain and change brains with Newt. Or just trade places. Either way.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Yes please and no ustream
RushBaby on October 15, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I never get to moderate :(
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
McCain should call in “sick” and send in Sarah Palin……
Seven Percent Solution on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
McCain needs to come armed with specifics on the Ayers/Obama relationship. He can’t mention it in passing only to have Obama dismiss it as he usually does and move on. He has to prove Obama wrong.
amerpundit on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Yeah ustream sucks. It always locks up my firefox.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Thank God for two threads, that last one was a horrific refresh nightmare.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM
McCain: Morph into a real candidate
Obama: Show up
fogw on October 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Boils down to this:
McCain – Needs to channel Gov. Palin.
Obama – Needs to show up. The media will take care of the rest.
SPCOlympics on October 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM
That’s not what I meant to say. ustream is the live chat (good). It’s the live blog thingie that I hate.
RushBaby on October 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM
/thread
RushBaby on October 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Drinking game………….. everytime McCain says “My friends……..” and everytime Obama says “uhh”, throw one back.
…………… you can start now if you would like.
Seven Percent Solution on October 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Me too (I didnt know they were the same!). That live blog thing sucks rocks.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM
This was supposed to happen in the last two debates, as well. I’m not holding my breath.
lodge on October 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM
No matter what McCain does the media is going to declare him the loser. I think when the debate starts he should ask every person who is trully undecided to watch the debate on C-Span and avoid the pundits with opinions that are always pro-Obama to help them decide.
McCain should do what McCain wants to do in the debate. He doesn’t do well when he is doing what others wants him to do. He has to be confident in what he is saying and doing for him to be able to sell it.
coolrepublica on October 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Obama has to show up and not drool. McCain needs to float in a foot above the ground.
MB4 on October 15, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Changing the topic to abortion should be easy. When healthcare comes up, revisit Obama’s “healthcare is a right” statement from the last debate and point out that it is a right enjoyed only by those Americans that are not subjected to a botched abortion.
McCain really needs to ask Obama to list the specific deregulations that lead to this crisis.
rw on October 15, 2008 at 1:18 PM
McCain, in response to what might seem to be an OBambi strong statement:
“That all sounds nice. It’s too bad for Mr. Obama that it isn’t based on any experience or personal knowledge, but on what he’s been told to say.”
AubieJon on October 15, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Here is a terrific ad that was show on Fox news this morning hammering Obama on the economic crisis. Called “Part of the Problem”.
http://www.neverfindout.org/
jazzmo on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Obama’s campaign, the DNC and the media have spent an enormous amount of time and effort building a facade of imminent winning so that if he loses the only explanation could be massive racism. Your being had people, fall for it at your own peril.
rplat on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
I don’t think that will work so well for McCain as it is hard to buy anything anymore that doesn’t have “Made in China” on it.
MB4 on October 15, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Mac needs to hold out his hand to shake with Odummy, then at the last second pull away and say “psych!”
Ostupid doesn’t do well when flustered, get him freaked-out early.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM
McCain has to slow down when he’s making a point, and speak deliberately. Explain how Carter raised taxes during a recession, and it was Reagan’s tax cuts that brought us back in the 80′s.
I personally don’t think he can change many minds, as the Siren song of free everything vs. personal responsibility is not a winning message anymore.
It used to be people got outraged at handouts, now it seems like it’s expected.
Sorry, just drank from the Allah cup/not feeling very hopeful about America these days…..
hippie_chucker on October 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM
How the hell don’t you have talk about the economy on the list of what McCain needs to do? McCain needs to POUND the fact that Obama’s plan = socialism. He needs to talk about redistribution of wealth. He needs to talk about capital gains taxes. He needs to destroy Obama on the economy, or he is toast. Foreign policy means NOTHING now. Ayers is bringing NO independents to the McCain ticket. Its the ECONOMY stupid.
muyoso on October 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM
This is the truth. There is nothing McCain can do, because the media will spin it. If this race were McCain vs. Obama, it would already be McCain’s to lose. But in reality, it is McCain vs Obama and the media. Not at all fair, but that’s how it is.
SAZMD on October 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Ed, that headline cracks me up.
What does Obama have to do? Show up, and not smoke on stage.
What does McCain have to do? Anything he likes, cause it doesn’t matter. As I suggested before, I think he should sing an aria.
paul006 on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
“He needs to talk about redistribution of wealth. He needs to talk about capital gains taxes”
yep, that is indeed another winning issue for him …
Buckaroo on October 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Mac can mention what Odrip said to the plumber, about “spreading wealth,” then ask Odoof exactly what he meant by that phrase.
“Explain what you mean by spreading the wealth, Senator, the American people want to know.”
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM
I think he need’s to get the O off stride with an answer or question he wouldn’t think McCain would ask then once he has him off track take it to him full tilt with how can 95% get a tax break when 40% don’t pay taxes why not call it what it is a welfare handout.
tee866 on October 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I think Ed only pays lip service to small government. I don’t think that’s where Ed’s heart is; so the economic side of Obama isn’t as troubling as the boogeymen.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:26 PM
I sure hope McCain does real good. The media is going out of their way to make him look stupid. I hope he don’t act so goody goody and is nice to Obama. Would be nice if he had some stuff on Ayers and Wright. Wish he listened to The Manning Report. That man rocked! This is getting so scary. Nothing but nothing would ever make me vote for Obama. Don’t anyone see how the Media is acting like this Country is the Soviet Union? One thing I wish McCain would talk about is the UN. We need to get that no good for nothing organization out of our Country also. That would be a wonderful start. And the illegals. But for some reason that has not been brought up by both sides. Oh, that is right, Obama’s Freddie and Fannie helped get over 4 million illegals homes and most were done here in The Peoples Republic of California. I know McCain had the Amnesty bill for them. But he will still get my vote. Then after this is over. I will start writing letters again. As I always do. I hope McCain looks at Obama in the eyes and says, ok now lets talk about your associate Ayers. Is this to much to hope for?
sheebe on October 15, 2008 at 1:26 PM
“Be aggressive.?”
When McCain does that, he comes across as negative, whiny and old.
It’s not the committed GOPers that McCain needs now. It’s the independents/uncommitted and they’ve been turned off by his going negative.
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How much do you wanna bet the leaked memo is a trap?
jim m on October 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Only by pantsing Obama as a hard core socialist will change the polls. Sure, the MSM is unfair, but the two biggest lies we conservatives are living are:
1. It’s McCain’s fault if he loses.
2. It’s the MSMs fault if he loses.
It’s our fault if he loses. Own it.
Limerick on October 15, 2008 at 1:29 PM
It sounds like McCain’s campaign needs to Let McCain Be Reagan. Good luck with that one.
nocomme1 on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
How did those Gallup-ing polls work for Canada?
Mcguyver on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Change into a 46 year old black man
tomas on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Bob Schieffer is only one year younger than McCain. I don’t reckon Team O would care to allude that he is insane or erratic?
Brat on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
McCain needs to fly in Joe the Plummer from Ohio and have him sit in the front row and point him out when talking about Obama’s economic policy. Knockout!
Pcoop on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Pray that Obama does something so dumb that Saturday Night Live has to make it the opening sketch this Saturday instead of yet another Tina Fey takedown.
rockmom on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
He needs to name names.
Dodd, Frank, Obama
And, he needs to use the word “Socialism”. It is Obama’s platform and McCain needs to expose him.
Conservative_SAHM on October 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM
I think Team McCain is just too terrible… there is so much material to use on Obama but Team McCain attack and they don’t engage, argue, and narrate.
McCain should ask “What did you say to Ayer’s face…” maybe bring up the conference “Intellectuals in time of crisis”… maybe bring wright with the “to his face” meme
The attacks on the 2nd amendment and abortion must make the case for the judiciary and for split governance…
Obama has tried to undermine the 2nd amendment by loading the scholarship…
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-attempt-to-destroy-the-second-amendment/
Bring up the fact that Obama said that he didn’t have the votes to do it…
Bring up that the judges he will appoint will be able to use the scholarship he funded in order to undermine the 2nd amendment… maybe read from some of that scholarship…
There are so many ways of arguing against Obama, it’s just this team is so pathetic…. team mccain thought they they didn’t really have to change themselves… it’s sad..
ninjapirate on October 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM
McCain needs to say that he will take care of people when he is President. McCain should say he has the track record of fighting for the American people. Hard work should be rewarded, not punished, like Obama wants.
Counter Obama’s “95% get a tax cut” line with “America needs real tax cuts, not empty promises based on thin air. We can’t afford half of all of Obama’s promises, much less all of them. We need to conserve our resources. We need to reduce profiteering by health insurance companies and big medicine.
As for foreign policy, we should not get involved in any wars. We need peace. Do not invade Pakistan. Make Pakistan into our friend. Shut down the Odinga death squads in Kenya.
Basically, McCain needs to out-liberal Obama.
indythinker on October 15, 2008 at 1:32 PM
SPOILER ALERT FOR THE DEBATE:
Obama will continue to talk in his half-black deep voice and make elderly liberal white men orgasm.
McCain will do something old-maney with his body or speaking and further embarrass the conservative movement.
The questions will be mostly boring.
Speedwagon82 on October 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM
At some point the president has to lead the country…Make the contrast of a career campaigner and himself.
tomas on October 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Hogwash!
McCain should hit him with every weapon in his arsenal and leave no rock unturned. And what the hell is an “independent”? Anybody that still hasn’t made up their mind and taken a firm position is either brain impaired or in coma.
rplat on October 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM
McCain should say:
Mr. Obama, you said in your book, and I quote, “I chose my friends carefully.. The Chicanos… The Marxists professors…”
Well, Mr. Obama you have been choosing your friends carefully during your entire career.
You chose to join a radical church led by Rev Wright after you heard him say hateful and racist comments in his first sermon.
You chose as your mentor Bill Ayers, a radical who bombed our national symbols and to this day wishes he could do more.
And finally, you chose your political supporter Rezko who was recently convicted of fraud, bribery and kickbacks.
Mr. Obama, these are your only mentors. And you chose them all very carefully.
The voters will decide if your judgment is sound.
faraway on October 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Indeed.
Spirit of 1776 on October 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Slow down hippie_chucker?
Guuud greeef!!!
What debate were you watching?
You must be from the Industrial Age!!
Mcguyver on October 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
“indythinker on October 15, 2008 at 1:32 PM”
piss off …
Buckaroo on October 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
McCain should:
1. remind the nation that we are still at war;
2. mention about 20 times that Obama wants to ‘refund’ income taxes to people not paying any income taxes; and
3. mention that number 2 radically transforms Social Security from a pay-in insurance system to a welfare system, which in the long ruin will drastically reduce support for maintaining it. (Obama claims that the recipients of the above mentioned No. 2 refund pay payroll taxes.)
Sheerq on October 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM
ninja pirate-I like the “what did you say to Ayer’s face” line….that would be so sweet to hear McCain say that, in light of Obama’s boasting about Mac not saying Ayers stuff to his face…brilliant.
Too bad it’ll never get said, along with all the other ammo left behind.
hippie_chucker on October 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Too funny – or – McCain is so scroomed?
MB4 on October 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Besides which, who their right mind would bother to watch the debate tonight? There’s already been two Presidential debates and the second one apparently put most of the viewers to sleep.
jim m on October 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM
I’m off topic as usual, but as a former IE test manager (through v5) I’m always bitter:
Why is it always the apps fault when it’s not an MS platform, but the platform’s fault when it’s not an MS app?
DarkCurrent on October 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM
I really can’t bear to watch. McCain was so good at Saddleback that I thought he’d cream Obama in these debates. Because of circumstances, all that Obama’s needed to do is show up.
McCain had so badly shot himself in the foot before the first debate that he was still tending wounds until Ifill got to foreign diplomacy, but no one cares about it right now.
The second debate was akin to watching a [insert name of sport] game in which McCain blew far too many chances to score so that he could be said to win convincingly.
So the previous two were very disappointing compared to Saddleback. I got an RNC solicitation last night asking for money, and I said no way until I hear and read that McCain had effectively clubbed Obama over the head in the second debate. If he’s not coming to play tonight, I’ll just look for his name on November 4.
BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM
I hope they are asked about judges. We all have to be ready to put our fingers in our ears when McCain says he voted for Ginsburg and Breyer, because one of the real hammers that will get the attention of independents is that Obama voted against John Roberts. He should have to explain that vote. Roberts is the most brilliant and qualified Justice appointed in the last 20 years, but Obama could not even vote for him. This vote alone puts the lie to any talk of Obama being moderate or reaching across the aisle. Nobody but the most extreme liberals voted against Roberts. I believe even Joe Biden voted for him.
McCain’s main task is to shove Obama off the center and onto the left.
rockmom on October 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Apparently, based on the tone of the comments in the Rev. Wright thread this morning, McCain has to pull down his pants and show “true conservatives” his testicl-s.
I think I’ll go cheer myself up at Ace: Al Qaeda In Iraq’s Number 2 Man Killed By Ill Fitting Adult Diapers And American Marksmanship But Mostly American Marksmanship.
Y-not on October 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM
redistribution of wealth
Wright/Ayers
Kini on October 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Make it a liberal one, to the left of obambi if that is possible.
neuquenguy on October 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM
I have a question about the post-debate posts.
Ed, when you declare a winner, is this your prediction of what voters think or your personal evaluation? I think your posts have touched on a mix of these two things.
Most polls (both immediately after the debate and later, when pundits have been able to spin it) have disagreed with your debate calls. But this is partially because you’re not offering a pure prediction of the polls, but rather injecting some of your own personal reactions and preferences which are colored by the fact that your values are close to McCain’s. It would be more helpful if you disambiguated between the prediction of voter reaction and the personal evaluation and wrote about each one separately.
tneloms on October 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM
McCain has to grab him by the neck and don’t let go
Ropera on October 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Firefox sucks. It’s a memory hog. It locks up way too often. I actually like IE better, but I don’t use it anymore.
But that liveblog thing always does it. I’ve actually blocked it with adblock cuz I’m sick of it.
I wont use IE again cuz I like the adblock add-on in firefox. No ads = me happy.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM
“Obama voted against John Roberts”
true dat, but not sure how much resonance that will actually have …
Buckaroo on October 15, 2008 at 1:42 PM
CONTINUED DEBATE SPOILERS:
Keith Olberdork and Rachel Madcow will find no factual or stylistic errors about anything Obama says
Bush will be blamed for anything bad with the country
The Democrat Congress will be blameless for anything bad with the country
Independant focus groups afterward will demand someone from the government help them with their own petty problems.
Speedwagon82 on October 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM
98% of america says “who’s john roberts?”
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Wrong one above – try this one
MB4 on October 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Video of Obama’s History of Marxism
Team McCain has been missing the point. Hammering on Ayers will do NOTHING unless they specify that it is his uber-Left background that is the problem. Sure, he blew up buildings and seven people died, but that’s actually not the main point.
WHY did Obama move to Chicago in the first place? He’s not from there. He went there because it was the birthplace of “community organizing,” the concept of civil disruption invented by Saul ‘The Red” Alinsky. But there’s even more.
Obama studied Alinsky at Harvard. He was trained by Alinsky-based organizations and then trained those very same concepts. Alinsky disciple McKnight wrote a letter of recommendation to Harvard for Obama. Obama has since worked with even more socialists, and his replacement for the crazy Rev. Wright is even farther left Rev. Jim Wallis.
Given these relationships it is easy to see Obama’s true self. What scares the hell out of me is not only him winning, but the thought of who he might appoint once elected. Spread the word, this is serious stuff and the mindless masses simply aren’t doing the research.
Spread the link to everyone you can, liberal or conservative. People are being duped by a great smile and a media spend like no other. Obama is buying the White House.
Video of Obama’s History of Marxism
cannonball on October 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM
“lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM”
sadly, that proves my point …
Buckaroo on October 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM
McCain needs to do two things tonight — first be aggressive and go after Obama on Fannie/Freddie. Lay the blame for the current economy on Obama and the democrats doorstep. REMIND voters more than once and early that Obama voted present and did NOTHING to offer any legistlation on the issue.
Second, give the voters a reality check. Explain that if Obama succeeds in resdtributing wealth then the country will go bankrupt. Those who make money will have no incentive to if their money is taken from them and just given away. Use the S word and pound it home that Obama = socialism.
No need to bring up Ayers but if the opportunity presents itself, express concern about voter fraud, investigations in 14 states and Obama’s past as a trainer and lawyer for ACORN.
If he can hit those points he will do well. I think he is still in deep trouble on election day but he can still turn it around.
grdred944 on October 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Hey, here’s more fodder for the pessimists:
Gallup: Three Point Race Among Likelies
7 among registered voters.
Enjoy, whiners.
Y-not on October 15, 2008 at 1:49 PM
He should reinforce how associations matter with something like, “my administration will be comprised of solid, serious people who won’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. Who would comprise my opponent’s administration? Rezko, the convicted felon who helped him get a house? Wright, the hate-filled pastor that spiritually counseled his family and inspired his autobiographies? Ayres, who said that he didn’t think he blew up enough people back when Obama was nine? I may not be blameless — after all, I’ve associated with Senators for twenty-something years, but I learned the problems with being in the wrong crowd twenty years ago with Charles Keating. My opponent hasn’t figured that out yet.”
cthulhu on October 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM
At this point, reciting policy is completely useless, just another borefest like the last one.
McCain has to create doubt and fear in peoples minds about obambi, he is a huge crap shoot.
Give me a break, a guy with Obama’s lack of accomplishments, ultra-liberal philosophy (spread the wealth around) and extensive baggage of dubious associations, should have nil chances to national office, let alone the POTUS. Obamabi has gotten away with absolutely no vetting, this has to change for McCain to have any chance. McCain is not going to out-do The One on promising goodies for everyone through boring policy presentations.
neuquenguy on October 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM
I’d really like it if McCain didn’t stand there with his thumb up his butt when Obama blames the current financial mess on “Bush” and “deregulation.”
I’d really like it if instead of talking about corporate greed ad nauseam he talked about government’s role in the Fannie/Freddie meltdown.
Don’t use the “Miss Congeniality” joke–ever again.
And please, please, please, stop talking about earmarks. He allocated way too much time to them in the last few debates. And it’s weird considering he voted for the bailout bill with over 100 billion in riders. I thought he was going to “name names”? I thought he was going to “make them famous.”
I want to see Rocky take down Chicago-thug Clubber Lang tonight. Now do it.
watchmen on October 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM
“Spock’s Brain.”
Worst.StarTrek.episode.EVAH
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Who’s the moderator tonight, anyway? I wasn’t paying attention.
CherokeeJack on October 15, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Well, it’s fitting. This is the worst campaign ever.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:54 PM
O/T
Biden claims he goes to Home Depot.
Palin actually shops at Wal-Mart!
Brat on October 15, 2008 at 1:54 PM
More people know where Ashton Kucher’s car is!
(Dude, where’s my car joke!)
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Bob Schieffer
McCain needs to hit Obama hard and repeatedly tonight on his connections
ConservativePartyNow on October 15, 2008 at 1:55 PM
McCain:
Look Barry, your media sympathizers are talking about your relationship with people like Ayers as if he were a mellowed out 60s protester – but he isn’t – and I want to say this to your face: someone who palls around with, who has a twenty year history of being friends with people who advocate, who continue to advocate, the violent overthrow of American democracy is unfit to be president of this great country -and yes I mean Wright, I mean Kalid, I mean Ayers.
Paul Murphy on October 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Which will make November 5 all the more amazing.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Stop stifling my pessimism!
Racist.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Absolutely agree. Obama is as high in the polls as he is only because people have not thought this through. If they really grasp that we can end up with the ultra liberals Obama/Reid/Pelosi in power with a filibuster-proof majority, with absolutely no checks-and-balances, unmitigated power. Some will start getting cold feet.
neuquenguy on October 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Which will make November 5 all the more amazing.
As they say in China, “Jawohl.”
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM
McCain’s best hope is that Superman appears miraculously and flies around the earth counter-rotation so it will spin in the other direction, and time will run backward, so McCain can start all over again, again, and figure out why in hell he want’s to be president in the first place, ’cause nobody else knows.
Oh, and then he can kiss Lois Lane.
trailboss on October 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Being a proud, scarred veteran of Browser War I, I hate to admit I use Firefox half the time these days. Maybe I should have stayed in the fight. I could’ve written much more sublime bugs than we get now.
DarkCurrent on October 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Off to work. I’ll check back in at midnight to see how many Eeyores threw themselves out of the window. Later…..
Limerick on October 15, 2008 at 2:02 PM
DarkCurrent on October 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM
What do you use the other half? I use FF but am always on the hunt for a decent alternative. Someone else here recommended ‘Maxthon’.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 2:03 PM
I don’t think I could use a browser that sounds like a condom.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM
He needs to call him on his $#!%.
I’d say, why are people being charged with donations to Obama, that haven’t donated to Obama?
Why are they being harrassed?
After he denies it and says we should behave civily I’d ask him why he asked people to get in the faces of others.
Ask him if he’s a socialist.
If not, how does he differ.
spacekicker on October 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I don’t think I could use a browser that sounds like a condom.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM
But supposedly it protects you from viruses when used as directed.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM
-rimshot!-
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Way ahead of you…
/licks last remaining drop of bourbon from bottom of empty shot glass…
Wyznowski on October 15, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Talk at length about B Hussein’s cousin RAILA ODINGA!!!!
Talk about Hussein’s sponsorship into the harvard law review via the Saudi Prince Al-waleed and the fact that he was raising money for Hussein when he was in his twenties!!
Talk about Louis Farrakhan calling Hussein the muslim messiah!!!
Talk about how Farrakhan has repeatedly said throughout the years that the muslim messiah(with the help of allah in a space ship) will come to global power and kill all the white devils!!
SaintOlaf on October 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Is that all? Why not find a cure for cancer while on stage too?
I’m not as pessimistic as some about how McCain will accquit himself tonight, but lets be honest here- McCain has phoned it in the last two debates. If he’s going to do something about all these little issues surrounding Obama, he really needs to man up and do it tonight. Otherwise, this debate will end with a selection of patriotic tunes from combined chorus of Rosie O’Donnell, Roseanne Barr, the chubby Dixie Chick and Barbara Streisand.
highhopes on October 15, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Bunch of frikken winos on this site. No wonder O is winning!
trailboss on October 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM
What’s wrong with FF? It’s what I use when not at work (all the work computers have IE), I prefer it if at all possible.
Although I haven’t gotten to try Chrome yet.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM
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