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		<title>By: Debate: Live chat and open thread &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debate: Live chat and open thread &#171; Top Daily Digest Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AdrianS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdrianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2nd lawsuit challenges Obama&#039;s citizenship
Man demands state verify birth records or remove senator from ballots

Note: It is incumbent on ALL Secretaries of State in all of the United States to BOTH accurately verify Voters AND candidates.  Barack Hussein Obama has sealed his &quot;Hawaiian&quot; birth records and also records in Kenya.  

Failure to verify and certify qualification for ALL candidates in a general election by any Secretary of State may be a cause of action (dereliction of duty) and criminal charges may be filed.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=78111

Also:

The Video that could cost Obama the election

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd lawsuit challenges Obama&#8217;s citizenship<br />
Man demands state verify birth records or remove senator from ballots</p>
<p>Note: It is incumbent on ALL Secretaries of State in all of the United States to BOTH accurately verify Voters AND candidates.  Barack Hussein Obama has sealed his &#8220;Hawaiian&#8221; birth records and also records in Kenya.  </p>
<p>Failure to verify and certify qualification for ALL candidates in a general election by any Secretary of State may be a cause of action (dereliction of duty) and criminal charges may be filed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=78111" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=78111</a></p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p>The Video that could cost Obama the election</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68" rel="nofollow">http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68</a></p>
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		<title>By: NightmareOnKStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>NightmareOnKStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m afraid I frightened the neighbors when I shreiked in rage as &lt;strong&gt;Obama laughed at McCain’s ACORN references and voter fraud.&lt;/strong&gt;
At the train stop this morning, I was recounting this, and the lady I was talking to sai: “What’s ACORN”?

pseudonominus on October 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, where&#039;s the screen shot of that? Remember when Bush Sr. checked his watch or &quot;W&quot; smirked? Those images are scorched into the public memory. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if &quot;Dear Leader&#039;s&quot; unfavorable moments like that aren&#039;t scrubbed from the tape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m afraid I frightened the neighbors when I shreiked in rage as <strong>Obama laughed at McCain’s ACORN references and voter fraud.</strong><br />
At the train stop this morning, I was recounting this, and the lady I was talking to sai: “What’s ACORN”?</p>
<p>pseudonominus on October 16, 2008 at 10:34 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, where&#8217;s the screen shot of that? Remember when Bush Sr. checked his watch or &#8220;W&#8221; smirked? Those images are scorched into the public memory. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if &#8220;Dear Leader&#8217;s&#8221; unfavorable moments like that aren&#8217;t scrubbed from the tape.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonominus</title>
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		<dc:creator>pseudonominus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I frightened the neighbors when I shreiked in rage as Obama laughed at McCain&#039;s ACORN references and voter fraud.

At the train stop this morning, I was recounting this, and the lady I was talking to sai: &quot;What&#039;s ACORN&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I frightened the neighbors when I shreiked in rage as Obama laughed at McCain&#8217;s ACORN references and voter fraud.</p>
<p>At the train stop this morning, I was recounting this, and the lady I was talking to sai: &#8220;What&#8217;s ACORN&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: pambi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pambi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where ELSE to post this:
new RNC ad ... likin&#039; it !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZXQfEAHts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where ELSE to post this:<br />
new RNC ad &#8230; likin&#8217; it !<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZXQfEAHts" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZXQfEAHts</a></p>
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		<title>By: ManlyRash</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533762</link>
		<dc:creator>ManlyRash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;in the end I think we both passed out relatively pleased. - Willie on October 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So I guess the debate wasn&#039;t the only thing that featured a Big O, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>in the end I think we both passed out relatively pleased. &#8211; Willie on October 16, 2008 at 9:57 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>So I guess the debate wasn&#8217;t the only thing that featured a Big O, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am late to the discussion as I don&#039;t have access to computer in the evening, but have been reading the pre-debate thread. Just so you know, my drink of choice is vodka &amp; tonic and I watched the debate on the phone with my best conservative friend, who had her cocktail of choice and in the end I think we both passed out relatively pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am late to the discussion as I don&#8217;t have access to computer in the evening, but have been reading the pre-debate thread. Just so you know, my drink of choice is vodka &amp; tonic and I watched the debate on the phone with my best conservative friend, who had her cocktail of choice and in the end I think we both passed out relatively pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: ManlyRash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManlyRash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe all is not lost. - tru2tx on October 16, 2008 at 7:38 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It most certainly is not lost. McCain will win in November. Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe all is not lost. &#8211; tru2tx on October 16, 2008 at 7:38 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>It most certainly is not lost. McCain will win in November. Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: wepeople</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533536</link>
		<dc:creator>wepeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain did well but he needed better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In such a controlled environment with a moderator what could he do beside stand up, grab Obama by the collar and deck him? One of Luntz sheep made a wise statement. Obama is articulate McCain not so much however, he wasn’t voting for a debater but a president. A smirky, shifty man who has questionable associates, distorted campaign ads and a vague or unknown background does not a president make. Sadly far too many of our people, and some who aren’t legal or alive, will pull the leaver because they are not informed but indoctrinated or have a sinister agenda.

wepeople on October 16, 2008 at 8:39 AM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>McCain did well but he needed better.</p></blockquote>
<p>In such a controlled environment with a moderator what could he do beside stand up, grab Obama by the collar and deck him? One of Luntz sheep made a wise statement. Obama is articulate McCain not so much however, he wasn’t voting for a debater but a president. A smirky, shifty man who has questionable associates, distorted campaign ads and a vague or unknown background does not a president make. Sadly far too many of our people, and some who aren’t legal or alive, will pull the leaver because they are not informed but indoctrinated or have a sinister agenda.</p>
<p>wepeople on October 16, 2008 at 8:39 AM</p>
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		<title>By: MrLynn</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533491</link>
		<dc:creator>MrLynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama is not Kerry this guy is the real deal. Obama is not embarrassed of his Socialist ideals he is proud. Obama with a Democratic congress and senate is going to run pure Nitro into US engine and turn right into the wall. -Regulation (we exhale carbon dioxide to give you a clue to the unlimited options of carbon regulation)
-Taxes (Hey government don’t cut back they just take a raise)
-World welfare (remember poverty=terrorism argument?)
-defense gutting (who needs baby killers anyway or lets say it PC we need to give more welfare and buy more votes)
-helplessly watching allies get plowed in during useless negotiations (Georgia, Iraq, Stans, Ukraine, Lebanon, Israel, Baltics, Tiawan, Dijbuti, Gulf States)
- etc……

C-Low on October 16, 2008 at 12:28 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is indeed what we&#039;re in for, and I kept waiting for Sen. McCain to say so.  Instead the doddering old fool couldn&#039;t even define his own policies succinctly and clearly, much less tell the American people where Obambi was pulling the wool over their eyes, and how he&#039;s such a danger to the Republic.

Those here who are point-counting and saying Sen. McCain &#039;won&#039; are grasping at straws.  The average viewer has no idea who is telling the truth and who is not.  He&#039;s going to pull the lever for the most convincing and articulate.  John McCain is almost as stumble-tongued as George W. Bush.  Makes me wonder what I&#039;m doing risking vandalism with McCain/Palin bumper stickers and a yard sign.

I wish we had a better candidate. . .

Hope for a Bradley Effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama is not Kerry this guy is the real deal. Obama is not embarrassed of his Socialist ideals he is proud. Obama with a Democratic congress and senate is going to run pure Nitro into US engine and turn right into the wall. -Regulation (we exhale carbon dioxide to give you a clue to the unlimited options of carbon regulation)<br />
-Taxes (Hey government don’t cut back they just take a raise)<br />
-World welfare (remember poverty=terrorism argument?)<br />
-defense gutting (who needs baby killers anyway or lets say it PC we need to give more welfare and buy more votes)<br />
-helplessly watching allies get plowed in during useless negotiations (Georgia, Iraq, Stans, Ukraine, Lebanon, Israel, Baltics, Tiawan, Dijbuti, Gulf States)<br />
- etc……</p>
<p>C-Low on October 16, 2008 at 12:28 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>This is indeed what we&#8217;re in for, and I kept waiting for Sen. McCain to say so.  Instead the doddering old fool couldn&#8217;t even define his own policies succinctly and clearly, much less tell the American people where Obambi was pulling the wool over their eyes, and how he&#8217;s such a danger to the Republic.</p>
<p>Those here who are point-counting and saying Sen. McCain &#8216;won&#8217; are grasping at straws.  The average viewer has no idea who is telling the truth and who is not.  He&#8217;s going to pull the lever for the most convincing and articulate.  John McCain is almost as stumble-tongued as George W. Bush.  Makes me wonder what I&#8217;m doing risking vandalism with McCain/Palin bumper stickers and a yard sign.</p>
<p>I wish we had a better candidate. . .</p>
<p>Hope for a Bradley Effect.</p>
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		<title>By: CherokeeJack</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533479</link>
		<dc:creator>CherokeeJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t let anyone try to tell you that John McCain did not win the last debate. John McCain did clearly win. It was the reaction on this site as the debate progressed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s obvious that McCain bested Obama, but the real problem is that it won&#039;t last. If McCain had gone for the jugular on the economy, he would have made an impression on voters that would stay with them until November. Unfortunately, he held back, which renders his victory in the debate virtually meaningless in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don’t let anyone try to tell you that John McCain did not win the last debate. John McCain did clearly win. It was the reaction on this site as the debate progressed.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that McCain bested Obama, but the real problem is that it won&#8217;t last. If McCain had gone for the jugular on the economy, he would have made an impression on voters that would stay with them until November. Unfortunately, he held back, which renders his victory in the debate virtually meaningless in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Byler</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533475</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Byler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To JiangxiDad on October 16, 2008 at 7:49 AM, you make a good point about what matters to voters.  As for the debates, I think that Karl Rove is right that there is so much you can do given the debate format.  What John McCain could do, he did last night.  All voters needed to do was listen to the substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To JiangxiDad on October 16, 2008 at 7:49 AM, you make a good point about what matters to voters.  As for the debates, I think that Karl Rove is right that there is so much you can do given the debate format.  What John McCain could do, he did last night.  All voters needed to do was listen to the substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Byler</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/15/debate-live-chat-and-open-thread/comment-page-21/#comment-1533458</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Byler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let anyone try to tell you that John McCain did not win the last debate.  John McCain did clearly win.  It was the reaction on this site as the debate progressed.

John McCain was rightly aggressive in going after certain issues with Obama, such as the partnership with Ayres (about which Obama lied) and Obama’s intended increases in Government spending that will inevitably result in higher taxes. It was a nice approach by John McCain to refer to Joe the Plumber to emphasize McCain’s pro-family policies. 

Overall, in a debate dominated by issues that are considered issues for Democrats, the Republican candidate John McCain showed himself to be in command on those issues with policies that are not the kind of bigger Government and higher taxes approach of Obama and the Democrats. However smooth Obama talks, McCain was superior on substance and controlled what was being said — for example, the discussion of vouchers and school choice in education. Imagne how much more knowledgeable John McCain would have shown himself to be had there been foreign policy issues on the table. 

In contrast, I don’t know which was worse: listening to Obama’s effort to cast himself as something other than the rqadical socialist he is, or listening to FOX regular commentators after the debate saying what they did. Kristol has gone stupid after starting to write for the New York Times. Juan Williams is letting his skin color lead him to shill for Obama. Krauthammer was in an alternative universe. John McCain’s excellent performance deserved far, far better reviews.  More sensibly, Drudge Report has 72% voting for McCain as the winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let anyone try to tell you that John McCain did not win the last debate.  John McCain did clearly win.  It was the reaction on this site as the debate progressed.</p>
<p>John McCain was rightly aggressive in going after certain issues with Obama, such as the partnership with Ayres (about which Obama lied) and Obama’s intended increases in Government spending that will inevitably result in higher taxes. It was a nice approach by John McCain to refer to Joe the Plumber to emphasize McCain’s pro-family policies. </p>
<p>Overall, in a debate dominated by issues that are considered issues for Democrats, the Republican candidate John McCain showed himself to be in command on those issues with policies that are not the kind of bigger Government and higher taxes approach of Obama and the Democrats. However smooth Obama talks, McCain was superior on substance and controlled what was being said — for example, the discussion of vouchers and school choice in education. Imagne how much more knowledgeable John McCain would have shown himself to be had there been foreign policy issues on the table. </p>
<p>In contrast, I don’t know which was worse: listening to Obama’s effort to cast himself as something other than the rqadical socialist he is, or listening to FOX regular commentators after the debate saying what they did. Kristol has gone stupid after starting to write for the New York Times. Juan Williams is letting his skin color lead him to shill for Obama. Krauthammer was in an alternative universe. John McCain’s excellent performance deserved far, far better reviews.  More sensibly, Drudge Report has 72% voting for McCain as the winner.</p>
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		<title>By: bloggless</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloggless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you cut out all of Obama&#039;s &quot;filler&quot; words, you could cut his answers short by two thirds.  The man uses filler words to make his answers appear more &quot;folksy&quot;.  There is very little substance to his answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you cut out all of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;filler&#8221; words, you could cut his answers short by two thirds.  The man uses filler words to make his answers appear more &#8220;folksy&#8221;.  There is very little substance to his answers.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Maybe all is not lost.

tru2tx on October 16, 2008 at 7:38 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sometimes you read those articles looking at past elections, and what mattered to voters. Often they say the VP pick and the debates didn&#039;t really matter that much.

Let&#039;s hope that in regard to the debates that people have already come up with sufficient reason not to vote for Obama, and didn&#039;t need McCain to supply the reason for them.

In other words, there&#039;s hope only if the majority of Americans can recognize &lt;em&gt;for themselves&lt;/em&gt; the real Obama and the danger he poses. McCain is not able to do that for them, for reasons which are subject to debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Maybe all is not lost.</p>
<p>tru2tx on October 16, 2008 at 7:38 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes you read those articles looking at past elections, and what mattered to voters. Often they say the VP pick and the debates didn&#8217;t really matter that much.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope that in regard to the debates that people have already come up with sufficient reason not to vote for Obama, and didn&#8217;t need McCain to supply the reason for them.</p>
<p>In other words, there&#8217;s hope only if the majority of Americans can recognize <em>for themselves</em> the real Obama and the danger he poses. McCain is not able to do that for them, for reasons which are subject to debate.</p>
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		<title>By: tru2tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>tru2tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JellyToast on October 16, 2008 at 7:34 AM

Exactly - what you said.

After Krauthammer&#039;s remarks I turned off the TV, computer and lights and went to bed super depressed.

This morning, looks like much different opinions all over the news orgs and regular folks.  Maybe all is not lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JellyToast on October 16, 2008 at 7:34 AM</p>
<p>Exactly &#8211; what you said.</p>
<p>After Krauthammer&#8217;s remarks I turned off the TV, computer and lights and went to bed super depressed.</p>
<p>This morning, looks like much different opinions all over the news orgs and regular folks.  Maybe all is not lost.</p>
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		<title>By: JellyToast</title>
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		<dc:creator>JellyToast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tonight was the first night McCain connected to the people. Of course the talking heads don’t get it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I watched Fox and was just dumbfounded at the talking heads summation of the debate. I felt there were a couple times McCain could have knocked Obama out of the park,, but with that said,, I thought he was great. Sure,, I wasn&#039;t expecting much,, but he was still great. Some say McCain got weaker as the debate went on,, he may have,, but then I read too that a lot of  people will turn it off after half way through.
As for Fox,, once again,, I don&#039;t know what debate these people were watching. It wasn&#039;t the one I watched. I actually heard Krautheimer say something like &quot;Obama was very smooth as he always is,, McCain needed Obama to slip up and Obama never does that&quot;   Krautheimer said something very close to that,,, That was so factually wrong my jaw dropped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>tonight was the first night McCain connected to the people. Of course the talking heads don’t get it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I watched Fox and was just dumbfounded at the talking heads summation of the debate. I felt there were a couple times McCain could have knocked Obama out of the park,, but with that said,, I thought he was great. Sure,, I wasn&#8217;t expecting much,, but he was still great. Some say McCain got weaker as the debate went on,, he may have,, but then I read too that a lot of  people will turn it off after half way through.<br />
As for Fox,, once again,, I don&#8217;t know what debate these people were watching. It wasn&#8217;t the one I watched. I actually heard Krautheimer say something like &#8220;Obama was very smooth as he always is,, McCain needed Obama to slip up and Obama never does that&#8221;   Krautheimer said something very close to that,,, That was so factually wrong my jaw dropped!</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t really care if McCain likes it or not. He has a hreater responsibility than just his sensitivities.

drjohn on October 16, 2008 at 7:22 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what I thought when he was patting himself on the back again for his years of public service, and I&#039;m not referring to his military service.

Note to pols.: Don&#039;t praise your sacrifice in service to the public. You have jobs/benefits that any American would gladly take. You and other pols. live privileged lives at our expense as our representatives.  Thank &lt;em&gt; us&lt;/em&gt; for giving you the privilege of governing.

If McCain wants to serve America, beat Obama, with whatever it takes. Otherwise, you&#039;re just serving yourself. 

And slowly, it&#039;s becoming apparent that your &quot;maverickness&quot; and &quot;stubbornness&quot;, and inability to march in step with your own side are examples of self-serving, not serving us. 

Cut the crap John. I wish your father was here to smack you. Stop pulling your punches!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t really care if McCain likes it or not. He has a hreater responsibility than just his sensitivities.</p>
<p>drjohn on October 16, 2008 at 7:22 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what I thought when he was patting himself on the back again for his years of public service, and I&#8217;m not referring to his military service.</p>
<p>Note to pols.: Don&#8217;t praise your sacrifice in service to the public. You have jobs/benefits that any American would gladly take. You and other pols. live privileged lives at our expense as our representatives.  Thank <em> us</em> for giving you the privilege of governing.</p>
<p>If McCain wants to serve America, beat Obama, with whatever it takes. Otherwise, you&#8217;re just serving yourself. </p>
<p>And slowly, it&#8217;s becoming apparent that your &#8220;maverickness&#8221; and &#8220;stubbornness&#8221;, and inability to march in step with your own side are examples of self-serving, not serving us. </p>
<p>Cut the crap John. I wish your father was here to smack you. Stop pulling your punches!!</p>
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		<title>By: drjohn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has to run against Bush.

McCain has to feature Joe the Plumber.

McCain has to run an ad in which Obama says Obama&#039;s knowing Ayers makes Obama qualified for the Senate.

IT&#039;s the taxes, stupid.


McCain HAD to ask OBama how he can give tax breaks to those who pay no taxes now.

He did not.

If Obama ties Bush to McCain, then McCain should tie Wright to Obama.


I don&#039;t really care if McCain likes it or not. He has a hreater responsibility than just his sensitivities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has to run against Bush.</p>
<p>McCain has to feature Joe the Plumber.</p>
<p>McCain has to run an ad in which Obama says Obama&#8217;s knowing Ayers makes Obama qualified for the Senate.</p>
<p>IT&#8217;s the taxes, stupid.</p>
<p>McCain HAD to ask OBama how he can give tax breaks to those who pay no taxes now.</p>
<p>He did not.</p>
<p>If Obama ties Bush to McCain, then McCain should tie Wright to Obama.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care if McCain likes it or not. He has a hreater responsibility than just his sensitivities.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyU</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeha am seeing post doom and glooom reviews. Well, it was all or nothing and bacing Obama a cake wasnt necessarily going to work, so I differ with the reviews.  Obama had nothing to say that was new, and was stumbling the whole time. MCcain kicked his ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeha am seeing post doom and glooom reviews. Well, it was all or nothing and bacing Obama a cake wasnt necessarily going to work, so I differ with the reviews.  Obama had nothing to say that was new, and was stumbling the whole time. MCcain kicked his ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Tazz 55</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tazz 55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe the Plumber speaks  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdLPWfTczM4  I think his message could resonate big in swing states and middle America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe the Plumber speaks  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdLPWfTczM4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdLPWfTczM4</a>  I think his message could resonate big in swing states and middle America</p>
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		<title>By: dmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;which appear to be required by the usual doom-and-gloom post debate pundits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yea...what&#039;s THAT all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>which appear to be required by the usual doom-and-gloom post debate pundits.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yea&#8230;what&#8217;s THAT all about?</p>
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		<title>By: CherokeeJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>CherokeeJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;John McCain won the debate, in spite of the fact that there were no clever “gotcha” moments, which appear to be required by the usual doom-and-gloom post debate pundits. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We didn&#039;t need &quot;clever gotcha moments&quot;. We needed a strong offense on the economy, which was far and away the most important issue in this debate, and he failed to provide one. He had one golden opportunity to get a solid lead over Obama, and he blew it. Don&#039;t fault the &quot;doom-and-gloom pundits&quot; for being angry with him, because he deliberately held back on connecting Obama to FM/FM. If he loses this election, it&#039;s going to be partly because he didn&#039;t convince voters that the Dems are the culprits in this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John McCain won the debate, in spite of the fact that there were no clever “gotcha” moments, which appear to be required by the usual doom-and-gloom post debate pundits.
</p></blockquote>
<p>We didn&#8217;t need &#8220;clever gotcha moments&#8221;. We needed a strong offense on the economy, which was far and away the most important issue in this debate, and he failed to provide one. He had one golden opportunity to get a solid lead over Obama, and he blew it. Don&#8217;t fault the &#8220;doom-and-gloom pundits&#8221; for being angry with him, because he deliberately held back on connecting Obama to FM/FM. If he loses this election, it&#8217;s going to be partly because he didn&#8217;t convince voters that the Dems are the culprits in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: albill</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disappointed by McCain&#039;s performance.
McCain just lacks the killer instinct when going after Obama.

For example, Obama gave him several opportunities to talk about Ayers and McCain whiffed it.
Where was the Ayers is a left-wing Socialist, he picked you because you are also left-wing, Socialist? Here are some of the things you and Ayers funded....(include $250,000 to help Rev. Wright&#039;s Marxist Black Theology work...)
Where was the &quot;You are the most far left, liberal in the United States Senate; Senator Obama do you think the voters understand how far left you are? &quot;
Where was the you got elected for State Senate because you ran unopposed, you had a henchman get the others kicked off the ballot. 

&quot;Its all about character Senator Obama. You say that your mother spent the last days of her life fighting the insurance company for health care. You were a Harvard trained lawyer working in a big Chicago law firma at the time, why weren&#039;t you fighting the insurance companies for your cancer-ridden mother? Instead you spent your time working with Bill Ayers and running for political office.&quot;

Where was the you are the most inexperienced person to ever run for President. Did you know that in the last X years that you have been in political office, the X newspaper calculated that you spent over half of it running for the next office? All you have ever done is mark yourself as &quot;present&quot; then start running for the next office. You have never done anything but run for political office.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;To quote Mark Steyn of the National Review:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&quot;His reluctance to whack the Democrat wound up, by default, elevating Obama. When a veteran Republican who&#039;s been on the national scene for a quarter-century and a Democrat whom nobody had heard of 20 minutes ago appear to be equal in stature, then by definition the Democrat wins.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;
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Maybe I missed the good parts while visiting the bathroom or getting a beer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disappointed by McCain&#8217;s performance.<br />
McCain just lacks the killer instinct when going after Obama.</p>
<p>For example, Obama gave him several opportunities to talk about Ayers and McCain whiffed it.<br />
Where was the Ayers is a left-wing Socialist, he picked you because you are also left-wing, Socialist? Here are some of the things you and Ayers funded&#8230;.(include $250,000 to help Rev. Wright&#8217;s Marxist Black Theology work&#8230;)<br />
Where was the &#8220;You are the most far left, liberal in the United States Senate; Senator Obama do you think the voters understand how far left you are? &#8221;<br />
Where was the you got elected for State Senate because you ran unopposed, you had a henchman get the others kicked off the ballot. </p>
<p>&#8220;Its all about character Senator Obama. You say that your mother spent the last days of her life fighting the insurance company for health care. You were a Harvard trained lawyer working in a big Chicago law firma at the time, why weren&#8217;t you fighting the insurance companies for your cancer-ridden mother? Instead you spent your time working with Bill Ayers and running for political office.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where was the you are the most inexperienced person to ever run for President. Did you know that in the last X years that you have been in political office, the X newspaper calculated that you spent over half of it running for the next office? All you have ever done is mark yourself as &#8220;present&#8221; then start running for the next office. You have never done anything but run for political office.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>To quote Mark Steyn of the National Review:</strong><br />
<em>&#8220;His reluctance to whack the Democrat wound up, by default, elevating Obama. When a veteran Republican who&#8217;s been on the national scene for a quarter-century and a Democrat whom nobody had heard of 20 minutes ago appear to be equal in stature, then by definition the Democrat wins.&#8221;<br />
</em><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Maybe I missed the good parts while visiting the bathroom or getting a beer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tazz 55</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tazz 55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fox All Star Panel should be sent to the minors or released. Nina Easton isn&#039;t going to have Fortune magazine or readership if Obama spreads the wealth. Barnes said McCain should have said &quot;I&#039;m a conservative and he&#039;s a liberal. McCain isn&#039;t a &quot;conservative&quot; and would have been chewed apart for saying so. Kristol is done and Juan Williams was the fairest of all, so that says something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fox All Star Panel should be sent to the minors or released. Nina Easton isn&#8217;t going to have Fortune magazine or readership if Obama spreads the wealth. Barnes said McCain should have said &#8220;I&#8217;m a conservative and he&#8217;s a liberal. McCain isn&#8217;t a &#8220;conservative&#8221; and would have been chewed apart for saying so. Kristol is done and Juan Williams was the fairest of all, so that says something.</p>
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