Debate: Live chat and open thread
posted at 7:05 pm on October 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Tonight we have the final presidential debate for the 2008 cycle, and if you’re in the Twin Cities area, we have some party ready for you! AM1280 The Patriot will host a debate party at Trocadero’s in Minneapolis tonight. The Northern Alliance Radio Network will emcee an evening of fun and politics, including my radio partner Mitch Berg, Power Line, SCSU Scholars, and Fraters Libertas. We’ll have free appetizers and a cash bar. The debate goes from 8pm CST to 9:30pm CST and doors will open around 7:30pm. Admission is free – but please RSVP at the handy AM1280 RSVP Page so we can plan accordingly.
You won’t miss anything at Hot Air, either, if you’re not able to make it to the party. We’ll have a live chat room running during the debate, with Jazz Shaw and Lady Logician moderating a cast of thousands — literally! Since the live streaming has interfered with the operation of the blog for some Hot Air readers, we’ll skip that and stick with the chat room.
I’ll also make a post-debate appearance on the Hugh Hewitt show at 10:30 CT to discuss the night’s events and their implication for the election. And yes, I shamelessly recycled the first two paragraphs of this post from my pre-debate analysis. I’m all about efficiency, baby!
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And a new nylabone
clnurnberg on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I shifted a George Will in my toilet.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Most independents are liberals in disguise. So it’s not surprising that these focus groups go for Obama.
johnt on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I’m so depressed. I’m going to bed.
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Only trying to preserve the “Fair and Balanced” brand. You have to break eggs to make an omelette, dear.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 PM
OBAMA WAS UNRUFFLED???
WTF
The guy was laughing nervously!!
Screw you CK
Ugly on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Obama sez, “I don’t mind be attacked for the next 3 weeks.”
THE LINE FORMS TO THE RIGHT, PEOPLE
NightmareOnKStreet on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I think the fact that most of us are political junkies and see the nuance in every attack John makes certainly colors our overall objectivity.
I still think John totally kicked his ass though.
hot-heir on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Easy test: are his lips moving?
yo on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Most independents are candy asses.
pugwriter on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I wrote to Fox and told them they’re nuts.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Now give Barry a pee test.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Total Mammoth Load of BS from ABC commenter: If you liked McCain, you are unchanged. If you like Barry, you are unchanged. If you are an undecided, you will go back and compare their plans and you will conclude the only choice is Obama.
They call this pap journalism??
electric-rascal on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Don’t be depressed. McCain did just fine.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Luntz were in the hell did you find these people ?None were suportes of Obama ? I was born at night but not last night.Give me a break!!!!!
thmcbb on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I used to really LIKE Krauthammer!
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
SourKrauthammer its a draw so McCain Looses!
Bulls… Fox is in the Obamabot bag. Mc mopped the floor with the big earred dufus.
dhunter on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
what is with charles?
blatantblue on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
The commentators on FOX are out of their minds. It is as if someone from the top came down with an order to favor Obama in the post-debate discussion, perhaps concernd about Obama’s charge that he has lost points ion the polls due to FOX. The truth is that McCain clearly won this debate.
Phil Byler on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
McCain was better tonight. It was his best debate of the three. He didn’t close the deal though. He had two or three really good opportunities to smack Obama with the “big right hand” and let them go by with nothing but a jab.
I think McCain missed his best chance to rattle Obama in their first debate. If he would have come out this strong in that debate he might have gotten BO to crack some. But now BO has gained confidence and parried well.
Hawthorne on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Yeah johnt, I know what you mean about the whole “liberals in disguise” thing . . . they’re more like confused anarchists who equate voting Republican with conformity.
Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
I was born at night but not last night.Give me a break!!!!!
thmcbb on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
LOL
Fires1 on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Most of us “Joe the Plumber” type Americans saw that McCain won tonight. The fact that the elitists think that Obama won does not mean shit!
carbon_footprint on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
McCain missed the chance to put he election away….
When talking about EDUCATION, he should have brought up the MILLIONS spent by the Annenburg foundation, that supported POLITICAL education, vice English and Math…
Romeo13 on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
(Did my last post not get through due to some kind of language filter? If so, I’ve taken a few minutes to cool down and change it.)
1) McCain hit all the right notes with me tonight. He stuck it to Barack “Violence Against Wimmenz” Obama on everything from Barry’s Bush-McCain screed to wealth redistribution.
2) Speaking of Obama . . . I’ve always believed that the best indicator of how someone really feels about an issue is the first thing that comes out of their mouth under pressure. That classless little piece of trash said a thousand words to me by responding to McCain’s statement about Lewis, the comparison to George Wallace, and how it hurt him with first defending it and then attacking Gov. Palin.
3) Who the heck does Barry think he’s fooling by saying he never agreed to meet with Ah’manutjob without preconditions?
Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM
“unruffled”???
BHO had a nervous smirk going for most of the time.
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
He did! Obama looked amused? I thought he looked embarrassed and angry. McCain smiled when he knew Obama was hyping and McCain had the facts to back it up.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Unruffled? Obama practically had his face in his hands.
Guardian on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Best line of the debate was unintentional: “senator government” or was it?
neuquenguy on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Krauthammer loves Obama, hes’ cool and stoned!
He lied like a bedwetter, against partial birth abortions?
dhunter on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Krauthammer is going to have sex with BO next week……what is with these tools at FOX?
David in ATL on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
The panel sounds like AP.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
How can so many of us here; regular people, see the debate so different from the Fox guys? I don’t get it. I’ve been frustrated with McCain, but I was proud of him, tonight. Yeah, I would have liked him to smack Obama around a little more, but he did a great job!
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Commentators should focus a little more on Joe the Plumber.
Over30 on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Okay America. Commit suicide. fuck it
carbon_footprint on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Yeah, So-called conservative commentators have given up on the party. On us, as if they were embarrassed of us. I would love to prove them wrong.
hawkdriver on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Fox pundits are giving it to Senator Government.
I don’t know what debate they were watching because I thought it was a clear win for McCain.
powerpro on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Luntz knows better, so he is being a real sell out. In fact, all the FOX people tonight are being sell outs.
If FOX keeps this up, I will move to another channel for news or just rely on the internet.
Phil Byler on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.
But it’s wrong 1438 times per day.
Clock, meet Krauthammer.
Ugly on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Yup. They’ve got to say something nice about the old dear before they dump him in the soiled linen utility closet and wait for the election results.
Laura in Maryland on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Krammerhammer in the tank…
Hey Yanks, Canada has a Conservative government (mind you, a high minority). When Bambam gets in, come on up and give us the Majority we so desperately need…
pcbedamned on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I think it really was unintentional, but it was funny.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
These Fox clowns won’t discuss what the candidates said, they just marvel at how “calm” Bambi was. Tools.
pugwriter on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Plumbers for McCain.
Toilets for Obama.
profitsbeard on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Well, the Fox Tools seem more full of sh*t than the toilets at a chili cookout…
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
That’s what they want…..that’s the whole idea. Depress the base and force undecided over to Obama via groupthink.
Is it 1984 yet?
No let up until 12:01am November 5th. And if it’s a Barry win I’m gonna enjoy kicking the sh*t out of the liberals for 4 years and undermining every single issue they raise.
No more taxes payments either. No mortgage payments. Free everything courtesy of Oprah Winfrey and her ilk (yo, O, I’ll take the big bedroom).
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
“McCain missed the chance to put he election away….
When talking about EDUCATION, he should have brought up the MILLIONS spent by the Annenburg foundation, that supported POLITICAL education, vice English and Math…
Romeo13 on October 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM”
Romeo13 (military?),
I hear ya, but I’m sure he had a billion things going through his head. I’m sure I couldn’t have remembered everything I should have hit on.
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Wait! If were clocking Krauthammer, I want in.
Laura in Maryland on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Here, let me scatter a little conservative good-feelings mojo on all you whiners:
*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ *·¸.¸.·*´ *
There, feel better now?
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
This whole thing has been eerie. Halloween effect?
Guardian on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
And perfectly appropriate. I’m going to use it from now on. Senator Government …
progressoverpeace on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Let’s prove the commentators wrong. Elect Mccain-Palin. The Left will go nuts. The commies will be stoopped. The commentators will be embarrassed. Its’s a win-win-win situation all around.
Phil Byler on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
David in ATL on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Obama having sex with Krauthammer . . . I think I’m about to puke. That’s wrong on so many levels that I’m not even going to bother going through them all.
Lol.
Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Senator Government. I loved it. Socialism at its best.
McCain did what he needed to do tonight. He made Obama a big government liberal. I know the media thinks that liberalism is yesterday’s point but to the majority of /Americans I think it will be a major point when they go into the voting booth. I think since McCain didn’t lose he won. He was the underdog he just needed to raise fears in the minds of /Americans. and he did.
unseen on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Is there a full moon tonight?
atxcowgirl on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
My mother is Canadian….maybe there’s hope yet. I hear western Canada still enjoys some liberty?
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
I’ll watch no more than 35 minutes of Fox News…..I’ll grab the remote when it comes to the “All Stars”
ohiorebel on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Perhaps we all see a win for Senator McCain because we know who and what Obama really is: a marxist who wants to redistribute the wealth of people who work 12 hour days to people who either don’t work of only work 2 hours a day.
Take solace in THIS: the IBD poll predicted the actual result of the 2004 election to within 4/10 of 1%, and they currently have McCain behind only by 3% with 13% undecided.
If we FIGHT to the bitter end, it might not be the end…not this time.
JustTruth101 on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
“Senator McCain – is your Vice-Presidential Candidate, Sarah Palin QUALIFIED to be President?”
(crickets)
“Senator McCain, I ask you AGAIN – IS your Vice-Presidential Candidate, Sarah Palin QUALIFIED to be President?”
(crickets)
“Well then, Senator McCain – who IS a qualified candidate for Vice President?”
McCain: “Uhhhh – Joe Biden is, ABSOLUTELY!!”
grtflmark on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Average Joe Six pack Plumber voter will vote McCain. I don’t care what these talking heads say. I just spent a week travelling through some of backroads America and if bumper stickers and yard signs mean anything, McCain had 10 to every 1 Obama sign.
Fires1 on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Correct. If the election is truly decided by those who watch the debates to make their decison, then Obama wins.
JiangxiDad on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Like I said, I wrote to Fox, including Hume, and told them they were absolutely nuts – that conservatives thought McCain won hands down. Fred Barnes wrong again.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Nothing matters: unless the market skyrockets in the next few weeks the economy puts Obama in the White House, where he’ll take his advice from the people most responsible for tanking the economy.
michaelo on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM,
I hear ya. I know it is not the “high road,” but if Barry wins, I’m going to do to him and Democrats exactly what they have been doing to Bush for eight years. Not nice? I don’t give a s**t!
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Am I living in a different dimesion? McCain won hands down.
AnthonyK on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
LOL My conservative Canadian friend. I’m sure you’re proud. (Leave a light on for me)
hawkdriver on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
So now will you please go add your name to the 6,748 signatures on the petition demanding the Federal Election Commission verify Obama’s eligibility? It may turn out to be the best chance we have. It doesn’t cost a penny either.
The way he is stonewalling the lawsuit against him, trying to buy more time for discovery- UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION the guy is HIDING SOMETHING.
NightmareOnKStreet on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
HECK YEAH!
Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
This is so surreal I’m half-expecting to see Krauthammer and Kristol at the polling places wearing red ACORN tees.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Barry’s antiperspirant failed as bad as his b.s.
profitsbeard on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Fred Barnes is crap, Bill Kristol just a snob that got his ass kicked his entire childhood, Juan Williams; which ways is the wind blowing, Nina – anybody got a t-shirt? Fox News elitist all.
These people are tiresome.
But CNN, poor Bill Bennett. That group at CNN remind me of bad Hollywood Square retreads!! And they are tough to look at in HD!! OMG!
McCain rocked! I have never thought he was behind. He’ll win the vote handily enough to make ACORN a distant memory. Patrick Fitzgerald will make them extinct!
OSUBuciz1 on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Quit clowning around Bozo.
Guardian on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
McCain did better tonight, but he’s not a strong debater. He tripped up and got tongue-tied too much, and he didn’t follow-through and nail down the facts on some of the issues.
In all honesty, Romney would’ve ripped Obama apart.
McCain was better, overall, than I thought he’d be. His best line of the night was about Obama running against Bush. It was his strongest delivery of the evening. I’m glad “he went there” on some topics but he should’ve had better follow up for those topics and better preparation…
eanax on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Yep. They’re pissed because Joe-Sixpack approves of Sarah Palin and she is just not gentrified enough for the Hahvad snobs.
IrishEi on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Good one :D
Ugly on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
McCain had a fantastic first 1/2 hopefully people stopped watching after that. Obama needed to be totally flustered to hurt himself and he wasn’t.
I wish McCain had attacked Obama’s education experience because his record on approving money to help education was a dismal failure. Obama actually has a record here and it is awful. But apparently McCain doesn’t know his record.
I think McCain was afraid to attack too hard. That is too bad.
petunia on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
CNN instapoll:
Obama 58%
McCain 31%
40%D – 30%R sample
YYZ on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
CBS has “undecideds” giving it to Oahole in a runaway.
CBS? Shocking.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I really expected after the debate that the Fox guys would say McCain did not do what he needed to do. But the outright glowing review in favor of Obama is blowing my mind. It absolutely was Obamas worst debate and McCains best. I have no idea what they are talking about. Senator Government won because he was calm? He was asleep he was so calm.
jazzmo on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Yep, Senator Government is here to help. ;)
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I guarantee Joe the Plummer is going to vote for McCain.
lavell12 on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
That’s what I’m sayin’. If you vote for him, you deserve him. McCain/Palin ‘08
uncivilized on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I’m sorry Star, but I don’t think I will find it in my heart to be that nice….
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I cannot believe what the commentators on Fox News are saying after the debate! I totally thought McCain was kicking butt! Now of course, Obama was lying in his rebuttals and there wasn’t enough time to point it all out, but from MY end, I thought it was John McCain’s best outing so far. But then again, I’ve been a geek for months reading about all of this stuff so I smelled Obama’s BS where someone else may not have.
I LOVED every time that McCain would raise his eyebrows and his eyes would get big when Obama was CLEARLY making crap up!
I know there’s a saying that we get the politicians we deserve…but I’m not “we”…I’m ME…and I don’t think I deserve Obama!
I don’t think there’s enough Guinness to get me through if Obama wins. (Sobs in Guinness…gets ready for bed)
Linlou on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I think, polls will move this week.
hawkdriver on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Olbermann as usual being fair and balanced and not mentioning any mistakes Obama made.
Speedwagon82 on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Thanks, Bishop
phineas on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Fuck this election, everytime McCain does great Obama is declared the winning.
lavell12 on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
This fox crap doesn’t even make sense neither does the Obomber campaign response its’ as if they know they lost.
Lowering abortions? Lyin his ass off.
Brit seems astonished how in the tank these guys are.
dhunter on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
While watching the debate I stayed away from any outside influences. I also did any post-debate coverage. I wanted to comment purely based on my impressions.
We first need to understand that how we see this debate will likely be through rose-colored glasses compared to most Americans. We are hardly unbiased.
I felt McCain won the debate on points. He drew a little blood on:
Not being George Bush
Joe the Plumber
Taxes
Senator Government (intentional or not)
He also missed opportunities on education and abortion that could have been big hits.
So overall I hope to see McCain gain a couple points in the polls.
Hawthorne on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
and
Krauthammer has NEVER liked McCain, the end!
YankeeinCA on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Fox is talking about Obama’s take on Joe the Plumber – but the problem is that Joe the plumber is NOT an Obama fan. After Sunday he said he was less of an Obama fan, and when he comes out this week and says he is STILL against Obama it will not play well.
Govgirl on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
CNN almost invariably ends up 33% to 66%.
Connie on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Be sure to go to Druge & vote…
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
What is the percentage of “undecided” voters nowadays?
21%-31%
They’re Mccain voters.
Who wants Ubama and the pollsters to call YOU RACIST?
If they haven’t been brainwashed by 2 long years of full time MSM obamalove….then they never will be.
SaintOlaf on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Funny you talk about holes, his campaign’s “O” emblem reminds me of Goatse.
Ryan Gandy on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
As George Will once said:
“White guilt is a form of self-congratulation, where whites initiate ‘compassionate policies’ toward people of color, to showcase their innocence to racism.”
The Lutz focus group and their ‘compassionate’ support is symptomatic of this obvious trouncing by McCain.
hot-heir on October 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Indeed. Voting for a Chicago Democrat sounds like a good idea, until you actually get them into office.
yo on October 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Juan Williams is getting the tingle in his leg.
carbon_footprint on October 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM
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