Debate: Live chat and open thread
posted at 7:05 pm on October 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Tonight we have the final presidential debate for the 2008 cycle, and if you’re in the Twin Cities area, we have some party ready for you! AM1280 The Patriot will host a debate party at Trocadero’s in Minneapolis tonight. The Northern Alliance Radio Network will emcee an evening of fun and politics, including my radio partner Mitch Berg, Power Line, SCSU Scholars, and Fraters Libertas. We’ll have free appetizers and a cash bar. The debate goes from 8pm CST to 9:30pm CST and doors will open around 7:30pm. Admission is free – but please RSVP at the handy AM1280 RSVP Page so we can plan accordingly.
You won’t miss anything at Hot Air, either, if you’re not able to make it to the party. We’ll have a live chat room running during the debate, with Jazz Shaw and Lady Logician moderating a cast of thousands — literally! Since the live streaming has interfered with the operation of the blog for some Hot Air readers, we’ll skip that and stick with the chat room.
I’ll also make a post-debate appearance on the Hugh Hewitt show at 10:30 CT to discuss the night’s events and their implication for the election. And yes, I shamelessly recycled the first two paragraphs of this post from my pre-debate analysis. I’m all about efficiency, baby!
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McCain: own hard. Pwn often
blatantblue on October 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM
I don’t even want to watch lol
spacekicker on October 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM
I’m totally prepared to watch McCain accept his non-racist, honourable defeat tonight.
CanadianGuy on October 15, 2008 at 7:08 PM
I’m not going to watch. I will do a lot of praying, however. I hope Mac takes a Palin pill before he goes out there, because he needs to put up a good fight.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Don’t be a hoser, eh?
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Hi Manly! Glad to see you’re here.
So, what’s everybody drinking this fine evening?
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Ed: I really wish you would separate the live chat and the open thread into different units.
The live chat delay on page refresh really screws up things for those who prefer to comment in the regular fashion.
LegendHasIt on October 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Slightly OT
ACORN embraces diversity, or something.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e43_1224086229&p=1
eyesky on October 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM
McCain can tell Obama you can put lip stick on and you are still a pig Ha Ha Ha
Denniscat on October 15, 2008 at 7:14 PM
LaRaza caught on tape committing voter registration fraud. The MSM hasn’t caught on to them yet.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0d_1223585808
roninacreage on October 15, 2008 at 7:14 PM
One vote for a parallel thread w/o Ustream!Knock, knock.
“Who is it?”
“ACORN. Wanna register to vote multiple times?”
Seventy-two votes for a parallel thread w/o Ustream!
innominatus on October 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Mac, explain why “tax cuts for the rich” is a good thing!
jgapinoy on October 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Given the proclivities and mood of this crowd? Human blood.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 7:16 PM
I expect McCain to do his wussie act again and flame out. Why should any of us expect a win when the candidate will not fight.
JIMV on October 15, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Don’t mean to be a hoser, but if McCain gives another performance where he treats Obama more like his friend than his opponent then I’m going to be spending the next 3 weeks watching my NHL Centre Ice Package and probably the World Series.
CanadianGuy on October 15, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Excerpt from the movie, “Patton” (1970):
RBMN on October 15, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Now I know how Custer felt.
swami on October 15, 2008 at 7:20 PM
didnt you pay attention last debate??
DO A SEPARATE THREAD FOR COMMENTING!! THE LAME-ARSE CHAT APP SLOWS COMPUTERS TO A CRAWL!!
chasdal on October 15, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Shoot………. I’m still at work an will have to catch up to you all once I make it home.
Go ahead and start the drinking game without me, I will catch up later………….
Seven Percent Solution on October 15, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Tonight is “dart league” for me, therefore I will miss the debate. I look forward to reading this thread upon my return home.
For me, the most important topic for McCain tonight is naming the names responsible for the financial markets meltdown that is still taking place. Name the names and back up the claims with facts.
Number (2) for me, is the ACORN disaster. McCain must talk about how ACORN has registered tens of thousands of fraudulent voters, in several states, thus compromising our Democracy. Then he must tie Obama directly to ACORN and force the piece of shit Liberals in the media to cover this attack on our free election process. I must also give credit where credit is due; CNN is covering the ACORN story while the rest of the print media refuses to do so.
If that is all that takes place by McCain, I will be a happy camper.
Keemo on October 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM
McCain is going to throw Palin under the bus tonight and apologize for her comment about him “paling around with a former terrorist”.
Mark my word. He wants to be in the medias good graces far more than he wants to be in the White House. Palin is expendable in his eyes.
roninacreage on October 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Tomorrow’s Drudge headline:
- The Daily Kos along with MSNBC want to have Bob Schieffer fired for not standing up John McCain in last night’s debate.
- McCain seen as the Bully for pointing out Obama’s past.
Mcguyver on October 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM
CanadianGuy on October 15, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Amen brother! Likewise here.
Keemo on October 15, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I thought Obama was awesome! He was cool under fire from the hot headed McCain and really new what he was talking abou…what?…the debate hasn’t even started?…well, I’m sure he’ll do well.
jawbone on October 15, 2008 at 7:26 PM
What? did you get an advance copy of tomorrow’s NYT?
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM
I’m not giving up yet, so before the debate, I’ll saturate my pea brain with cheap red wine, instead of hemlock toddies.
Chug a lug!
petefrt on October 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM
In that case, puck it. McCain will be no different tonight than he was…well…ever before.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Everybody who thinks Shepard Smith is obnoxious, raise your hand-
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 7:29 PM
oh no ..not this unworkable post/chat combination…it’s useless.. I think I’ll go over to Aces’s place ..later.
redrock on October 15, 2008 at 7:29 PM
*YAWN* Been there and did that in my own inimitable style many, many, many threads ago.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Obama hates being mocked, Senator McCain.
Mock this petty, crypto-Marxist weasel and call him out as the lying, shilling, pandering Empty Suit-for-the-socialistic / crackpot extreme left that HE IS.
SCORCHED EARTH UPON BARRY’S REAR QUARTERS… for Country First!
profitsbeard on October 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Well, you’ll have to wait on that world series- Dear Leader is going to postpone the opening game with his first propaganda speech- all 30 minutes of his brilliance….gag.
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM
LOL! Ah, yes, evil does have the tendency to give the slick, clean, personable facade when it’s trying to lure the masses.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 7:32 PM
lepanto’s Daily Election-Sign-on-the-way-to-work-count
Pennsylvania for McCain/Palin: 9
Pennsylvani for Obama/Biden: 2
battleoflepanto1571 on October 15, 2008 at 7:33 PM
He damn well better not!
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 7:34 PM
McCain better step up or I’ve got 35 hours of Matrix Bluray content to get through over the next 3 weeks.
I’m a Romney guy and I want to see the McCain I almost jumped through my TV set to strangle!!!
He wouldn’t let up, he kept going at Romney and did it smiling the whole time…of course Romney held his own but,…
:)
GET HIM! I said in the beginning that I thought McCain was a Bob Dole choice…I HATED THAT ELECTION!!! Please prove me wrong Maverick.
jawbone on October 15, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Took the dogs for a walk after the big rain this afternon, picked up three McCain Palin signs tossed by the side of the road- our KC-Obama Fraud Group hard at work via YOUR tax dollars.
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 7:39 PM
I want to hear McCain:
-slam Dems on Freddie/Fannie
-slam Obama on Ayers
-slam Obama on ACORN/vote fraud
-clarify that Obama will raise taxes and hurt the economy
-talk about abortion and guns (which hasn’t come up once)
my expectations of any of that actually happening are low
brak on October 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM
I still say McCain should sing an aria. I recommend the Russia one about the million roses. It’s always a tearjerker, and it’s the only game-changer left.
paul006 on October 15, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Of course, that was true when Patton said it in 1944. Sadly, our next
warconflict was a tie (though one of our greatest Generals was forced into retirement by the Democratic President at the time) and the nextwarconflict was a loss, because two Democratic Presidents refused to win it.Prediction: Putin runs wild if Obama wins.
VastRightWingConspirator on October 15, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Got my mail in Ballot here in sunny San Francisco. Promptly voted for McCain / Palin.
So on 11/7 when California shows Obama wins this state 20,000,000 to 1.
I’m the ONE!!!
It’s lonely at the top!
skree on October 15, 2008 at 7:43 PM
I’d like that too. But, I’m terrified it’s going to be a “my friend” evening again.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 15, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I have a nice imported beer and some good cheese and crackers…I need my comfort food in times of stress.
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I just saw that on FOX. Kind of good and yet kind of lame at the same time….
They don’t HAVE to delay the game for this. They want to. I would assume that the baseball organization has some sort of contract, they COULD enforce against the network.
And they could move to another network due to breach of contract, if they had the will to do so.
But the (bread and circuses) baseball will do even better under 0bama, as the populace’s options are further limited. So, they don’t mind providing a captive audience for 0Bama’s warm-up act.
LegendHasIt on October 15, 2008 at 7:45 PM
It’s not too late for a game-changer, though I don’t see that happening in this debate. Maybe a scandal (ACORN, Rezko, etc.) so big that the media can’t ignore it.
jazz_piano on October 15, 2008 at 7:46 PM
i got a ballot in the mail too. i don’t trust mailing it in. I’ll show up on the 4th to vote.
lorien1973 on October 15, 2008 at 7:46 PM
George Bush to become Spokesman for Compound W after election?
(Just had to have a CHANGE of pace.)
profitsbeard on October 15, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Take control John, bring a napsack of acorns and toss them to the crowd. Hand a couple to Oburka as well and tell him, ‘I got your acorns right here pal!”
ohiorebel on October 15, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Like wise skree, from up here in SacTown.
What should I do now I wonder?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 15, 2008 at 7:47 PM
He won’t.
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Eeen if McCain wants to hit Obama on any of that, Bob Schieffer won’t let it happen, or will bail Obama right out.
brak on October 15, 2008 at 7:48 PM
I have a bad feeling in my stomach. Maybe its because I’m hungry, but I believe McCain is walking into a trap tonight. They want Ayers to be discussed, but why? Obama has to have a comeback line ready, so it’ll probably make McCain’s attack mute.
McCain needs to attack, but he needs to attack Obama’s policies first. He needs to explain why higher taxes will hurt everyone from top to bottom. He needs to ask Obama how he plans to pay for anything, especially considering how we have no money. He needs to point out that the price of oil has dropped, and Obama simply can’t tax the oil companies to death to pay for his crap.
Then, he needs to attack Obama’s ideology. This is where Ayers, Wright, “spread the wealth” and “cling to their guns” comes out. He might need to go over the head of the moderator to do this, but he needs to talk to the American people, not to the moderator.
El_Terrible on October 15, 2008 at 7:48 PM
McCain doesn’t need to be angry or nasty, just show that ornery, feisty, snarky side that came out against Romney. Remember this line? “I’ll give you this: You are the candidate of change.” When did McCain stop grinning? He seems rattled now.
jazz_piano on October 15, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Where are my free appetizers and no-host bar?
:)
Bob's Kid on October 15, 2008 at 7:50 PM
The cheapest beer I can find. We’re in a depresstion, haven’t you heard?
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 15, 2008 at 7:50 PM
you mean moot?
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Lots of gin and a little tonic–watching XXX right now; McCain needs to take a page from Vin Diesel.
m064404 on October 15, 2008 at 7:51 PM
I can NOT watch this thing tonight. Impossible.
I’ll just cruise the blogs and catch the vibes.
Oh, and drink wine. LOTS of wine.
wccawa on October 15, 2008 at 7:51 PM
McCain will do something that “outrages” Olbermann and the rest of the leg-tinglers at PMSNBC. Do I win anything?
Speedwagon82 on October 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Remember that look he would give Ron Paul during the primary debates? Completely incredulous at how lame the man could be. That could come in handy.
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Have any of you with kids considered moving somewhere else if Obama wins this election? No? Oh, neither have I–just speaking hypothetically. (:
jazz_piano on October 15, 2008 at 7:53 PM
First McCain will rail against Obama regarding Ayers and other of his associates, then when the moderator questions McCain on his attacks McCain will then call Obama a decent family man whom we should not be scared if he became the President.
albill on October 15, 2008 at 7:53 PM
For a second, I thought the title said “Debate: Live chat and open dread.” Johnny Mac had better not be flat again if he wants to pull this one out.
Blackacre on October 15, 2008 at 7:54 PM
McCain could hit a home run if he would just utter these words against Obama tonight:
Socialist
Alinsky
Infanticide
ACORN
G.D. America
Reparations
Spread-the-wealth
(He especially has to bring up the infanticide. America needs to be reminded of O’s stance on late term abortions and “4th trimester” abortions.)
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 7:55 PM
The same will happen if Obama preempts an attack by bringing up Ayers. McCain will grab the mic from Obama’s hand and tell Obama he has nothing to fear from a President Obama. There will also be heaps of praise for his accomplishments and then McCain will give Obama a gift wrapped box of chocolates.
CanadianGuy on October 15, 2008 at 7:55 PM
No, I haven’t considered moving, but the next time I’m at Disneyworld or any place where American tourists gather, I will be thinking, “Oh so these are the idiot American pigs that voted Dear Leader into office”.
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 7:55 PM
I’ve got a Hawaiian pizza, General Tso chicken, Coke, and ice cream for dessert.
Bring it on John! Smack that socialist right between his eyes.
csdeven on October 15, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Governor Paterson on Fox News says Americans just need to “do more with less.” That just about sums up Obama’s economic plan for successful Americans.
Viva la revolución!
m064404 on October 15, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Heck, no…if I have to put up with my kids/grandkids, so does HE.
uncivilized on October 15, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I got a big bag of salt and vinegar Lays and a 12 pack of Pepsi and a pack of smokes. I fully expect to throw up watching McCain tonight so I figured why not.
CanadianGuy on October 15, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Forget Socialist go with Communist.
Ayers
Wright (about time)
Infanticide
“Clinging to guns and religion”
“Punished with a baby”
“above my pay grade”
ACORN
Endorsements by Castro Brothers, Hamas, North Korea.
lavell12 on October 15, 2008 at 7:59 PM
I used to kick azz at darts. Someday, maybe….
RushBaby on October 15, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Will be peeking through my fingers with my hands over my face.
McCain needs to take a ‘mean’ pill. He’s too friggin honest and nice. Thats why he’s not winning.
johnnyU on October 15, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Hey…I just remembered…I have TEQUILA!!!
Maybe this debate won’t suck after all…or at least I won’t remember if it did…
uncivilized on October 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Well, if Hussein steals the election like I think he will, I am wondering if Alaska will finally secede from the states? If so, we’re moving to Alaska. They don’t pay income tax, they get money refunded to them from the state government yearly, and they have an awesome leader!
The way I see it, I live in Maine right now, so the climate wouldn’t be that much different.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Yes. Identify the candidate endorsed by the Communists, terrorists, and Hollywood. Then vote for the other guy.
jazz_piano on October 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM
McCain could ask:
“Senator Obama quoted Ronald Reagan— who I’m damned sure would not endorse Barack’s recent Marxist sentiment to ’spread the wealth around’— about “‘Are you better off than you were four years ago?’ Well, since the Democrats came into control of both the House and the Senate in 2006, I;’d like to ask the American people: ‘Are you better off than you were 2 years ago?’. Because, since November of 2006, this has been a Democratic Party-controlled game. And the results have been spectacular, haven’t they? You want more of the same, given them control of the Preidency on top of the House and the Senate and go whole hog with this socialistic, tax and spend, no accountability folly. That’s CHANGE… but let’s HOPE people are smart enough not to risk such a disaster for our country, our economy and our liberty.”
Hit the weasel where it hurts: in the judgment!
profitsbeard on October 15, 2008 at 8:01 PM
How about Preparation H? I know it lacks the alliterative panache of “W” but it is so much more apropos.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:01 PM
That’s funny, JohnnyU, that’s how I’ve watched this whole election. And to think at one time, my biggest fear was that Hillary would get the nomination- whattadummy.
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I’m having tequila anda beer chaser!
ohiorebel on October 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM
good choice!
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM
In some parts of NJ that’s a hanging offense.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Hey cs…I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time since I’ve seen you back.
Fred Thomson….
/;}
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Hey- did anyone see O’Reilly show the full page ad asking Schaeffer, (sp?) to ask Obama about wealth redistribution?
How’d I miss that today?!
anniekc on October 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Does anyone else think O’Reilly has become a giant blowhard? “McCain must convince America he feels their pain”?. Are you kidding me?
m064404 on October 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Hosehead.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Noooooo! He needs to take a Palin pill! This gives the ability to unapologetically go for the jugular while looking cute and sweet at the same time. And the only side effect to the Palin pill is that you might see an increase in your poll numbers.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Sarah Palin in my hometown today honoring the troops and taking a liking to the New Hampshire state motto:
Palin in NH 10-15-2008
MrC_5150 on October 15, 2008 at 8:05 PM
You mean, “the folks”?
What a cornball.
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 8:05 PM
No, the “A” answer would have been to send Palin in to “pinch hit” for McCain.
uncivilized on October 15, 2008 at 8:05 PM
She’s coming to my state (Maine) tomorrow morning. I can’t go… I have to work.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Or your bust size.
*crickets*
You know…like bra cups? I mean she IS blessed by nature.
*crickets*
[wipes brow] Is this microphone working? Tough crowd…
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Does anyone know why Hillary will be in the debate audience tonight? (Drudge has the story.) Weird.
jazz_piano on October 15, 2008 at 8:07 PM
I’m feeling optimistic….I think there is something to this “silent majority” thing. And I think this silent majority has it’s mind made up, regardless of what happens tonight…they just can’t in all good conscience pull the lever for Obama.
But they have to be vewwy vewwy quiet.
surrounded on October 15, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Somebody get the hook…
uncivilized on October 15, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Aw come on… you can do much better than this, Manly.
ErinF on October 15, 2008 at 8:08 PM
No brainer: she’s fucking with Barry’s head.
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Dude, I am like SO all over that. Where do these First Dudes FIND these women?
wccawa on October 15, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I’m telling ya…it ain’t easy being me. I don’t get respect.
Okay folks, how about this: a midget gynecologist walks into a lesbian nightclub…
ManlyRash on October 15, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Would we all be wringing our hands trying to advise to our candidate if it had been Mitt instead of the Democrat, Blueblood Repub., Mainstream media pick?
No! OBomber would be afraid to show his punk face on the same stage after the beat downs he would have taken on the economy by now!
dhunter on October 15, 2008 at 8:10 PM
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