CNN: Thousands of fraudulent ACORN registrations in Philly
posted at 10:50 am on October 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
CNN keeps its focus on ACORN voter-registration fraud this morning with another Drew Griffin report. Kiran Chetry hosts this segment, and don’t miss the part where Griffin confronts an ACORN activist:
KIRAN CHETRY: A group that claims it signed up more than a million new voters is now facing allegations that many forms may be fake. Drew Griffin from the Special Investigations Unit is in Philadelphia. He’s looking at the facts for us this morning. Hi, Drew.
DREW GRIFFIN: Good morning, Kiran. You know, ever since the voter registration deadline ended for this November 4th election, I feel like I’ve been on a national tour looking at voter registration fraud across the country. In Philly, it’s no different. And here in Philadelphia, they say it’s the same group as everywhere else. The good news, there have been hundreds of thousands of new voter registrations processed in Philadelphia, including a vast majority of good, clean registrations from ACORN. The bad news, Philadelphia has already sent 1,500 obvious fraudulent registrations to the U.S. Attorney to be investigated. Every one of them from the same group, ACORN.
GRIFFIN: Is ACORN a group that has been problematic in its organizing of these voter registration drives?
FRED VOIGT: Sure.
GRIFFIN: Have you tried to work with them to explain to them?
VOIGT: Absolutely.
GRIFFIN: Why is –
VOIGT: I don’t have an answer for you, okay?
GRIFFIN: All right.
VOIGT: We originally — this has been going on for a number of years. We have met with them. We’ve talked to them.
GRIFFIN: According to city officials, close to 8,000 applications turned in by ACORN are problematic, including the 1,500 already sent to the U.S. Attorney, and officials expect the number to climb. Greg Voigt says so far his office is catching them, making sure no bad registrations lead to bad votes, but admits he has limited staff.
VOIGT: Are there going to be bad votes? Sure, there are going to be bad votes. There are always bad votes. Am I concerned this is a close election? Of course, I’m concerned it’s a close election. But, you have to weigh everything in terms of your capacity to find things out.
GRIFFIN: Voigt says the problem is ACORN hires people desperate for money, including drug addicts, homeless, recovering alcoholics, even recent parolees who only get paid if they get signatures.
VOIGT: You just look at them and it was all in the same hand. You know, if you see some where they used a phone book, including the apostrophe. You know, some of the –
GRIFFIN: Went down in the phone book and just copied it verbatim right now.
VOIGT: Kitchen petition.
GRIFFIN: Kitchen petition? Sitting around the kitchen, fill out the petition.
VOIGT: Fill out the petition. This happens.
GRIFFIN: We went to ACORN’s Philadelphia headquarters where a rally was taking place, telling volunteers the recent news about voter fraud was just another attack by the right wing and the media on the poor.
ACORN SPEAKER: That is fraud! That is voter suppression. That is not news.
GRIFFIN: Jeanette Marcano is the local ACORN chairperson who acknowledges ACORN hires the less fortunate, but says there is nothing wrong with that. Why is the Deputy City Commissioner of Philadelphia telling me that ACORN is hiring recovering alcoholics, drug addicts, homeless people, who are so desperate to get money that they know that they don’t make their quota, they just fill in any old name, that’s what he’s telling me?
JEANETTE MARCANO: That is not the point.
GRIFFIN: That’s not the point?
MARCANO: No, that is not the point.
GRIFFIN: What is the point?
MARCANO: They are not deliberately go out there and say — you are homeless, you are a recovering alcoholic. You are –
GRIFFIN: But has it presented itself as a problem to ACORN? Wouldn’t ACORN like to run a nice, clean, smooth voter registration drive?
MARCANO: We have — we have done that. Because if we had been able to register 85,000, above 85,000, good registrants compared to 5,000 suspect cards, we have done a good job.
GRIFFIN: Kiran, last week I was in Indianapolis, or actually, Gary, Indiana, where they had dead people being registered to vote. ACORN insists it trains its workers and doesn’t have a big problem, but city officials here in Philadelphia beg to differ with that. Kiran?
CHETRY: Yeah, and in its defense, ACORN has said it is actually identifying these problematic registrations in advance and trying to notify authorities. In Philadelphia, ACORN said it flagged, I guess, 5,000 applications before the officials found them. Is that true?
GRIFFIN: Not according to the city officials, not true. They say that ACORN came in with a bundle of 1,100 that they thought were suspect. Actually, it turned out a couple of hundred of them were actually good voter registration cards that they processed and sent voter cards out to. So, there are a lot of disparities between the number that ACORN is getting and what city officials checking the actual records are getting, and that number, Kiran, is only going to grow as they continue to process more of these for this election.
Bad registrations aren’t the point? Of course not. Providing work to the less fortunate is the point, and who cares about whether they’re fraudulently submitting fake registrations? In essense, ACORN is saying that it doesn’t mind getting cheated, because the real point of their exercise isn’t to support democracy, but their own agenda.
Kudos to CNN and Griffin for their work in covering this story. We often have complaints about CNN’s editorial direction, but their work on this story has been surprisingly tenacious.










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In Philly? I’m shocked!
forest on October 15, 2008 at 10:52 AM
FIFY
Editor on October 15, 2008 at 10:53 AM
OT: Cheney having trouble with his ticker.
abinitioadinfinitum on October 15, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Atlas Shrugged.
ctmom on October 15, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Said it before… hope I can say it in the future:
Drew Griffin: Journalist.
Abby Adams on October 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I just discovered from a reliable source that the Democrats have had the current election campaign basically on auto-pilot ever since they succeeded in getting McCain nominated by organizing their rank-and-file to crossover in the early Republican primaries.
The Democratic Party has just finalized their plans for 2012. They are going to get McCain nominated AGAIN by doing the exact same thing they did this year.
jay12 on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I think that every registration by ACORN, whether good or bad, shouldbe thrown out, since they do not know if all are correct. Check out the story on the Boss site
ConservativePartyNow on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Behold the future Obama enforced volunteer corps.
This is the the kind of quality work you get from people who aren’t interested in the job they’re doing and can’t be fired.
This is what Obama wants to foist on colleges across the nation so people can get their $4000 college credit.
MayBee on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I gotta wonder how much this affects the polls. PA has a million more Democrat registrations than Republican, and the polls are weighted accordingly. How many of them are bogus? I don’t know, but I think it helps explain these outlandish polls that show Obama with a 12-15 point lead in PA.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I wonder how many of the “good registrations” are just better quality fakes missed by the authorities.
zmdavid on October 15, 2008 at 10:59 AM
This is ridiculous.
The government should be in charge of voter registrations from end to end, not obviously partisan political organizations.
Why do leftists think the government should take on more tasks, when it rarely is able to competently handle the few tasks it really should be doing? Like this one?
NoDonkey on October 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Kudos to CNN and Griffin for their work in covering this story. We often have complaints about CNN’s editorial direction, but their work on this story has been surprisingly tenacious.
Yeah, wow, gee, thanks for waiting two years before reporting any of this crap.
So when does CNN plan on being as tenacious about the boatload of other incriminating garbage attached to Jesus Hussein Christ?
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Didn’t the dems want fund this group with bailout money?????
Didn’t Obama donate $800,000 to these fools in the last eight months.
If this isn’t addressed in tonights debate, in a real way then I’m pretty sure I’m gonna have a stroke and die!!!!
Oh well, at least some homeless guy can vote for me after I’m dead!! Even if it’s not the way I would vote.
tottoritodd on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I though ACORN was non-partisan, their words. So why are they wearing Obama shirts?
fleiter on October 15, 2008 at 11:02 AM
THERE IS A DEAD GIVEAWAY IN THIS VIDEO!!!!!!
At 2:50, watch the WHITE GUY inciting the troops, then he gets up and leaves when he sees the camera, leaving the black woman to do the talking. I almost fell over when I saw this.
This is how ACORN operates. It’s a plantation of white organizers who are manipulating poor black people. I’ve seen this over and over again. ACORN comes to local and state hearings on foreclosures or lending practices. You always see a young white kid orchestrating the whole thing, handing out talking points, telling people where to sit, and sometimes even sitting at the witness table with the too-obviously-coached witness. It’s a joke. This is not a grassroots minority organization; it is a Marxist “popular front” with well-educated, highly trained (and I’ll bet highly paid) white organizers behind the so-called grassroots black folks.
Do not be fooled, America.
rockmom on October 15, 2008 at 11:04 AM
And you know what I heard on the news this morning from Democrat pundits?
“This is just a distraction from real issues because McCain is down in the poles and doesn’t have a health plan.”
Obama’s paving the way for socialized medicine and nobody’s confronting that. If Obama wins, they’ll say it’s because people voted for their campaign of socialized medicine (which is the ONLY thing he’s advertising about) and ramrod it through.
Skywise on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 AM
THAT CNN? The fraud surround ACORN must really be rampant if even CNN can’t ignore it.
Big Exit Question: What’s being done to ensure none of these bogus registrations nationwide get translated into a vote on November 4th? We know ACORN and other groups are spamming the system with fradulent registration so, while we wait for the leaders to go to jail, what is being done to ensure that Snow White and all seven dwarfs don’t vote for Obama in Cleveland, Detroit, and El Paso?
highhopes on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I remember before the last election even started 60,000 Democrat votes we cast in Philly.
It’s reprehensible. And year after year we tolerate this stuff so we aren’t called racists I suppose.
Jesus help us.
lisalj on October 15, 2008 at 11:05 AM
This election is a farce . . . your vote is being cancelled out by bogus voters and it simply doesn’t count anymore.
rplat on October 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Drew Griffin is a breath of fresh air at CNN.
carbon_footprint on October 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM
what is being done to ensure that Snow White and all seven dwarfs don’t vote for Obama in Cleveland, Detroit, and El Paso?
So far only Dopey has come out for Obambo.
Bishop on October 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM
We’re new media, right? Here’s the opportunity: as Acorn has had trouble like this for years, a video of their spokesmen making the same lame excuses from the last five elections back to back would be interesting.
Doug on October 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Call me whatever you like but stop, this voter fraud and the violation of my civil rights first.
rplat on October 15, 2008 at 11:09 AM
FTFY
YellowDawg on October 15, 2008 at 11:12 AM
There is something that a lot of people seem to be missing, but I don’t think it will be lost on others.
I don’t know if it was on here or not, but I remember seeing a headline that said that the people tie voter fraud to the GOP. Well, in this video the ACORN guy said that it was a right wing smear job on ACORN. Hmmm… if all of this voter fraud is going on by a group that complains about a right wing smear campaign, then how exactly can this be tied back to the GOP?
I think the media may be starting to realize that the mask is coming off and is panicking (which would explain the See-BS/NYSlimes garbage poll).
MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Because… The One is Post-Partisan. It’s a new era. There are no more parties… only The One.
P.S. For what it’s worth, if I want to get a pass to my uber-lib community’s rec center, I need to show a photo ID and proof of residence in the form of two utility bills showing my name and home address. That’s to use the rec center.
To vote? What the #$(* ever.
saint kansas on October 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM
DRUDGE: OBAMA TALKING POINTS TO MEDIA AHEAD OF DEBATE… DEVELOPING…
I smell rope-a-dope.
FiveWays on October 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM
That’s just massa riling up the field workers to fight against the folk who are trying to free them from slavery.
csdeven on October 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Who is John Galt?
hippie_chucker on October 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Are you paying attention, McCain debate prep team?
EnglishMike on October 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM
There is an Easy way to solve this Goverment Photo Id to vote.
GatewayMac on October 15, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Day three of the Drew Griffin
reassignmenttermination watch.spmat on October 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM
At the debate, McCain should bring up the $100 million slush fund for ACORN that was in original bailout bill, and then take credit along with Republicans for getting it taken out. It’s an example of true reform.
It’s a slam dunk issue for McCain.
Kenrod on October 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Whoa… you’re right. And we both posted this on October 15, which is WHITE Cane Safety Day. White cane? Why’s it always have to be white? We’re racist too for posting on a shameful, bigoted day like today.
Abby Adams on October 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM
And during the 90s and 2000s ACORN and the Dems were saying, bad mortgages, bad credit? that’s not the point. Affirmative Action is the paramount goal. Voter fraud that’s not a problem as long as it gives democrat control of government so that ACORN can get more money to do its dirty work.
eaglewingz08 on October 15, 2008 at 11:24 AM
What, Obama’s going to rope-a-dope McCain on ACORN? Maybe. Doesn’t need to, though.
spmat on October 15, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Funnily enough, I read this piece at Pajamas just now, which explains all…
EnglishMike on October 15, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I fear the only way we could get the majority of the left to join us in fighting voter fraud would be to engage in large scale voter fraud that benefited the right instead of the left.
I think the right, for the most part, respects the law more than it respects winning, so it’s unlikely to happen.
JadeNYU on October 15, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Why did you send me to a website with a picture of a portable noose? Obivously you’re threatening me. racist.
on a side note, i cannot wait for this election cycle to be over. the amount of stupid race coding investigators in both the media and DC has made me lower my opinion of the left even more than I thought possible.
YellowDawg on October 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM
I REALLY like the “ACORN VOTES OBAMA” T-shirt! We need a few million bumper stickers that say just that!
Star20 on October 15, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Is it me or do you wonder why it’s always someone else’s fault (GOP- rightwing etc).. yet had they (ACORN) done their f-king jobs correctly.. this wouldn’t be an issue..
theblacksheepwasright on October 15, 2008 at 11:31 AM
I saw this firsthand in Philly in 2004. I was part of the RNC’s 24 Hour Legal Task Force assigned to monitor the election in Philly. Of the 100,000 new registrants, roughly 10% were confirmed bogus immediately.
And if you don’t think “registration fraud” can lead to “election fraud”, read my whole post about how Democrats tried utilizing the bogus registrations to cast bogus ballots.
Based on the results in just the couple of precincts I monitored, I can only imagine the significance of the current crisis involving Democrat-endorsed fraud.
Texas Rainmaker on October 15, 2008 at 11:34 AM
The only way to get national attention is for the Republicans to start sending in thousands of fake registrations and encourage multiple voting.
They need to adopt the ACORN strategy times ten.
The DOJ will all of a sudden wake up.
mylegsareswollen on October 15, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I see black people being lied to and manipulated by whitey.
Let’s just call it a microcosm of the coming Obama presidency.
Right Mr. Soros?
fogw on October 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Lovely thought, but you’d need a conservative administration and filibuster-proof majority in Congress to pass it. And even if McCain somehow manages to win he probably wouldn’t go for it, given his fondness for reaching across the aisle and for illegals.
If Obama wins and the Dems gain seats, they’ll make voter fraud even easier than it is now. They are nothing without their key constituencies of dead people, the homeless, criminals and illegals. Acorn will probably become a government freakin’ department.
Conversely, if that Government photo ID requirement ever happens… permanent conservative majority.
It’s nice to dream.
EnglishMike on October 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Expecting people to properly identify themselves before voting is…drumroll…Raaacist!
Every time some Democrat starts prattling on about “voter suppression”, they need to be countered with the disenfranchisement argument. It’s real simple. Every time a bogus vote is cast in Philly, one of us legitimate voters gets disenfranchised.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 11:36 AM
I’m utterly failing to understand why this is important. Unless there is some plan to follow up this fraudulent registrations with votes, our democracy isn’t being subverted. ACORN’s great evil is its responsibility for the CRA and our current economic crisis. In comparison, these voter registration is like running a red light after you have already stopped and looked around at 3:00 in the morning.
thuja on October 15, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Funnily enough, I read hipper_chucker’s post not as an actual question but as a Jeopardy-esque response to the CNN piece.
Trabek: For $400, Democrats would like to fraudulently take over the WH and Congress.
GOP responder: Alex, who is John Galt?
That’s my one Pynchon-esque ramble for the day, I promise.
LastRick on October 15, 2008 at 11:38 AM
At least CNN is stepping up to the plate with Drew, I just feel it is too late to save Democracy in America. Welcome to the Welfare State comrades.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Kevin in Washington State on October 15, 2008 at 11:44 AM
That’s not the point?
As a matter of fact, that IS the point of ACORN! And of course they vote for Obama, a former druggie!
I liked that line about the “kitchen petition!”
Mac will have to bring this up BIG TIME in the debate! How the Obama campaign spent $830K promoting election fraud! Also that Obama was a lawyer for ACORN, not only trying to pass the “motor voter” law, but also suing banks to make risky loans to people who couldn’t pay them back. The cause of the current financial mess? “That one!”
Steve Z on October 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM
thuja,
You really don’t see how fraudulent registration could lead to fraudulent votes? The registrations getting the press are the most ridiculous ones like “Mickey Mouse”, but how many slightly better forgeries are getting through? Busing on election day? Same day voting in Ohio?
And ACORN using public money to engage in partisan voting drives would be an outrage even if they did only legitimate registrations.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 11:48 AM
If CNN is really the Clinton News Network, it might explain why they’re covering this–bring Obama down, and they’ll set up Clinton vs. Palin in 2012.
Steve Z on October 15, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I’d really like to know wht the definition of a “good voter registration is”? Is that a registration that is not in the name of a cartoon character or football team? I don’t buy for one minute that these election officials are catching most or the majority of fraudulant registrations. The mickey mouse and jimmy john’s are probably attempts to divert attention away from the fraudulent voters who will in fact vote. This is a travesty.
bloggless on October 15, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Absentee ballots!!! One person registers under several fraudulent names, has several absentee ballots mailed to him, votes several times from the same address. If the registrations are accepted and agree with the information on the mail-in envelope, the multiple votes count. Which is why this must be stopped at the registration stage.
Steve Z on October 15, 2008 at 11:53 AM
How Acorn goes from voter registration fraud to voter fraud. I find this very chilling!!!
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_101408/content/01125113.guest.html
reshas1 on October 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM
And busing of voters.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Anyone can show up at the polls and give a name that has been registered and then vote. No ID, no problem. Mail it in, fax it in, email it in. No fraudster left behind. One man, many polling places. Vote early and vote often.
bloggless on October 15, 2008 at 11:58 AM
I just went to CNN’s web site, on their header page, no mention of Acorn and the problems in the 12+ states that is currently going on, it’s pathetic…
reshas1 on October 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Not! They are on the destructive end of democracy by 3 to 1 over responsible journalism. That statement is as bad as McCain endorsing Obama when people vent their outrage at all the corruption and shannigans going on to steal our freedom and voting rights.
CNN as been a major destructive force for freedom in America. Slanted unfair and way out of balance!
wepeople on October 15, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Bingo. Obama’s just another sellout to this Marx-Alinsky popular front, one who skillfully uses his words and skin color for effect. He’s their perfect tool.
Is it that voters don’t see this, or that they just don’t care?
petefrt on October 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Proper registration is the first line of defense against fake votes. I don’t see how anyone can think it’s not important.
Those who dismiss it are being disingenuous. I just don’t believe most of them are so stupid as to not see the significance of the problem.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 12:07 PM
“the real point of their exercise isn’t to support democracy, but their own agenda”
Wait until they lose in Nov. When the ‘agenda’ goes down in flames, the rage over ‘stolen elections’ will be deafening. Hypocrites.
“there have been hundreds of thousands of new voter registrations processed in Philadelphia”
Hundreds of thousands? The voting age population of Philadelphia is appx 1.1 million. Is there a contest to outdo Indianapolis? I smell a new winner at 110%!
Nikita on October 15, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Raaaaaacist!
Black Adam on October 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM
While CNN is close by, they need to stop on down here in Delaware and check things out also.
Both of my parents received brand new DE voter registration cards in the mail, registered Democrat. I believe they were previously registered Independent.
What’s the problem with that?
My dad’s been dead for seven years and my mother for four.
Supposedly the election committee verifies that people are actually alive before issuing a voter card.
Apparently they only check the Republican voters.
dinobalz on October 15, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I actually think the number is lower than that Nikita. I think the total population of Philadelphia County/City is less than 900,000. The number you quote is probably the eligible voters in the Philly metro area – some of whom live in reputable municipalities.
It makes the claim of hundreds of thousands of new voters in Philly proper even more outlandish.
forest on October 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Wouldn’t it be interesting if it was discovered that the registrations that ACORN flagged as fradulent were primarily from people who registered Republican??
kurtzz3 on October 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Time to buy more ammo for the coming civil war
bill30097 on October 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Impossible. They throw those in the trash before heading back to HQ.
Texas Rainmaker on October 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM
What, pray tell, do you think is the purpose of registering to vote if not to allow time to verify that someone is entitled to vote? Why not just let people walk in on election day to any polling place and cast a ballot?
Y-not on October 15, 2008 at 12:41 PM
It would be interesting to interview those 200 valid registrees about their political leanings. ACORN is generating a tsunami of bad registration cards with a multi pronged strategy. As others have pointed out, it’s classic Cloward-Piven Strategy, attack the system by bringing it to a halt and then using that breakdown as an excuse to litigate 11th hour solutions like keeping the polls open late and allowing dubious voters to vote. Also, obviously there are fraudulent voters that can’t be properly vetted because of overstressed election officials plus partisan Democratic officials like Brunner in Ohio, so there is an opportunity for real voting fraud, not “just” registration fraud. In addition to sneaking bad registrations in the flood of supposedly good registrations, ACORN takes some obviously fraudulent cards and does the Kabuki dance of flagging them as bad and adds good registrations (I’m sure they have some kind of coded flag that canvassers put on registration card so the ACORN offices can identify ethnicity and political leaning) to the bundle of “flagged” registrations, hoping to have some of their political opponents removed from the rolls.
ACORN has been perfecting their scheme for decades now.
I think ACORN gives McCain a rich target in tonight’s debate. McCain must come equipped with all the wonky details of Obama’s alliance with ACORN (including suing a bank over housing aka risky mortgages) and how Obama disbursed millions of dollars to groups like ACORN and other radical left wing and racialist organizations through his work at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund. This lets him riff on Ayers, ACORN, dirty Chicago style politics, and Obama’s unsavory friends without ever having to mention the words “Jeremiah Wright”.
rokemronnie on October 15, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Does CNN even know that Drew Griffin is on the payroll?
His reports are uncharacteristically solid and levelheaded, I just wonder if he’s the intern that everyone forgot about.
moxie_neanderthal on October 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM
DRUDGEREPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mommypundit on October 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM
A good way to prevent these bad votes is… GASP!…. ID!
ToddonCapeCod on October 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Pure scum.
Claypigeon on October 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM
QFT!
liquidflorian on October 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I’m still registered in Delaware too, although I gave up my Delaware residency a few years ago and have voted legally in Virginia twice. Luckily, my mom burned the card they sent me, so no one else could use it – it was in my maiden name and everything. I wouldn’t doubt that someone’s using my name in Maryland too – I’m pretty convinced the fraud appearing in the news is just the top of the iceberg.
I hate to be pessimist (okay, no I don’t), but I don’t see anything significant happening anytime soon. And personally, I’m just glad my identity has only been (possibly) stolen to vote with – that’s why I keep an eye on my credit.
As an aside, I remember reading about how elections were stolen or rigged all over the world, and I always thought that this country would be the last place something like that could happen. Not only was I wrong, but I underestimated the skill of Americans when it came to under-handed election manipulation. How can we continue to think we’re the best nation on Earth if we let them get away with this again and again?
Anna on October 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Respectfully, thuja, the reason it’s vitally important is because it inflates the voter rolls with potential ballots. After the polls close on election day, ACORN representitives go ahead and run those ballots themselves, thus giving the dems the advantage.
You make great additional points, but the voter fraud is a very big deal. At least it is to me, since it negates my legitimate vote.
techno_barbarian on October 15, 2008 at 1:53 PM
I’m betting that the voters DO see this. The media is just doing their best to cover up the truth. But I’m expecting them all to be gobsmacked when the dust from the election settles and McC/Palin pull this out, despite the ACORN voter fraud efforts.
techno_barbarian on October 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM
This is a great point that seems to get lost in the noise somehow.
hillbillyjim on October 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Look for Drew Griffin to be reassigned to CNN’s outpost at the South Pole if Obambi wins.
Physics Geek on October 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Some see it, and don’t care. Some don’t see it. Some don’t want to see it. Some see it and rejoice. Most of the major media tools see it and purposefully ignore it .
And then there is us.
hillbillyjim on October 15, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Good Lord, I hate useful idiots. Everyone of those people in red shirts are useful idiots helping to get us into the rice fields.
Tim Burton on October 15, 2008 at 3:03 PM
i know it makes me a monstrous bigot but that ACORN spokeslady can barely speak english. ACORN is so arrogant to accountability that they let their story be told in pidgin english?
billypaintbrush on October 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM