really wish Morissey would avoid commenting on issues of which he is largely ignorant. Catholicism being one, Canadian politics being another. The self-satisfied spewage of quarter-baked ideas that results is just embarassing.

“The Liberal Party stumbled to only 77 seats…”
76. Is it that hard to quote the numbers correctly?

“Dion’s Grits lost almost 20 seats in Parliament…”
Try 27. 103-76=27. Really, it’s not that hard.

“This also represents an endorsement of Harper’s policies in Afghanistan…”
No, unfortunately the campaign had pretty much nothing to do with Afghanistan. The Grits lost because of a piece of idiocy called the “Green Shift” and because Canadians prefer to stick with the devil you know during financial turmoil. Also Dion comes across as a semi-coherent moron.

“[The Grits]’ll likely lead the opposition while Bloc Quebeçois completes the Conservative government.”
What?? The Bloc Quebecois (spelled with a hard ‘c’ incidentally, not an accent cedille) will be in the opposition, along with the Liberals and NDP. They will not “complete” the Conservative government, whatever that means. They are a hard left party that also advocates the separation of Quebec from Canada so there will be no coalition between them and the Conservatives. The Conservatives will govern alone with supporting votes from the Liberals on confidence matters since the Libs are in no position to face another election.

Helps to know what the eff you’re talking about, eh? Try it before belching this tripe.

Gaunilon on October 15, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Hey Gaunilon,

Why have not the other provinces in Canada thrown Quebec out of Cananda?

If I lived in Canada outside of Quebec, I’d be so enthusiastic to get Quebec out.

Is there any support to kick them out?

I know in the USA I would love it if we kicked Massachusetts out along with CA, NY, RI, MI out of the union.

?

You should give a sh*t because you now may have two options, instead of one, if Obama wins on Nov. 4th.

You can flee too Texas to join the Independence movement, as was originally available to you, or you can go North to Canada. Either way, you’ll be safe from the coming Fascism/Socialism of Obama.

ericdondero on October 15, 2008 at 8:41 AM

I’d take my chances in Texas.

“The Liberal Party stumbled to only 77 seats…”
76. Is it that hard to quote the numbers correctly?

“Dion’s Grits lost almost 20 seats in Parliament…”
Try 27. 103-76=27. Really, it’s not that hard.

“This also represents an endorsement of Harper’s policies in Afghanistan…”
No, unfortunately the campaign had pretty much nothing to do with Afghanistan. The Grits lost because of a piece of idiocy called the “Green Shift” and because Canadians prefer to stick with the devil you know during financial turmoil. Also Dion comes across as a semi-coherent moron.

“[The Grits]’ll likely lead the opposition while Bloc Quebeçois completes the Conservative government.”
What?? The Bloc Quebecois (spelled with a hard ‘c’ incidentally, not an accent cedille) will be in the opposition, along with the Liberals and NDP. They will not “complete” the Conservative government, whatever that means. They are a hard left party that also advocates the separation of Quebec from Canada so there will be no coalition between them and the Conservatives. The Conservatives will govern alone with supporting votes from the Liberals on confidence matters since the Libs are in no position to face another election.

Helps to know what the eff you’re talking about, eh? Try it before belching this tripe.

rplat on October 15, 2008 at 8:25 AM

I think it would be UASS – Union of American Socialist States
or more profoundly “The u-ASS”

Well Krydor, I am a Canadian & an Israeli with 33 years of observation and I don’t know where you came up with this, it is total hyperbole and leagues away from true. There’s not a single part of that statement that is anywhere near accurate

saus on October 15, 2008 at 12:58 PM

First off, CPC social policy is light years away from the Republican party. We had, as you recall, a free vote on gay marriage and then it was over. The country, somehow, survived.

Canadian conservatives do not invoke God to pretend to take the moral high ground. If a Canadian politician decides to wedge religion into his/her politics, it ends badly. Seriously.

The Canadian conservative party is far more open. There are ELECTED MUSLIMS who are a part of the CPC. In Quebec, there was an openly gay dude running last election. Abortion is off the table, as is Capital Punishment. If these issues are brought up (as in, let’s ban abortion and reinstate capital punishment) the party bringing them up will be lucky to remain a party at the end of it. Gun control is acceptable to the CPC, just as long as it’s done in a fiscally responsible way.

Krydor on October 15, 2008 at 9:23 AM

I live in the Detroit area and have many Canadian friends and relatives. I must take issue with your statement.

Many Canadian conservatives are not far from what we would consider a libertarian conservative in the United States. Since I have observed this to be the core of the conservative movement in the U.S. as well, your statement is probably not accurate even in a general sense. You probably have read too much media propaganda that tries to portray the conservative movement in the U.S. as wackos.

What happened to the Reform Party or the Libertarian Party of Canada?

The Reform Party merged with the Progressive Conservative Pary to become the Conservative Party of Canada, the party led by PM Stephen Harper. This merger eliminated the vote split on the right which…because of a vote split that has now developed on the left…has allowed the Conservatives to win two elections.

This governemt may last 18 to 24 months, depending on how eager the Liberals will be to have an election sooner rather than later. Due to opposition disarray, PM Harper was able to govern as though he had a majority, even though he had a minority situation…we will see if he does that again.

That all said, the Liberal are likely to have a leadership change within the next year or so. The likely winner will be Michael Ignatieff…I cannot imagine Bob Rae, the former NDP (socialist) premier of Ontario whose government was a complete disaster, becoming Liberal leader. Ignatieff is hard to pin down ideologically as his views have changed over time on many things.

Once he is leader, however, the election will be very fascinating because it present a choice between two highly intelligent leaders.

And for America — Prepare yourselves for the “Union of Soviet Socialist America” (USSA). I hope these fools understand what they have done.

rplat on October 15, 2008 at 8:25 AM

You speak for me, and make me cry for my country, and for the world. ‘Humanity’ is regressing.

Prior to the vote polls showed the liberal and conservatives within 4 points of one another: Conservatives 34%, Liberals 30%.

The actual result:Conservatives 37.6%, Liberals 26.2%.

That’s one poll, but the tracking poll done over the weekend had it exactly right. Also, at no point during the entire campaign were the Conservatives ever behind.

Finally, Canadian conservatives are to the left of your Democrats. Actually, US conservatives are the rightest right wingers in the world.

Krydor on October 15, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Well Krydor, I am a Canadian & an Israeli with 33 years of observation and I don’t know where you came up with this, it is total hyperbole and leagues away from true. There’s not a single part of that statement that is anywhere near accurate actually no offense intended.

Canada stays Conservative

Will Hollywood conservatives threaten to move to Canada if BO wins?

Any reports on their accuracy?

America is bankrupt in that area.

Something about the Canadian election that might give my American friends reason for quiet optimism.

Prior to the vote polls showed the liberal and conservatives within 4 points of one another: Conservatives 34%, Liberals 30%.

The actual result:Conservatives 37.6%, Liberals 26.2%.

bongo on October 15, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Good to know. I think the only poll here that has Obama with a commanding (15 pt.) lead is that CBS/NYT poll, and that poll simply isn’t very credible. CBS and NYT are both ultra-liberal organizations which don’t even bother to try and hide their bias (or their Obama cheerleading) anymore, and both also have histories of less-than-ethical behavior to push their liberal agenda. The other polls have McCain within 5 points or so, which (even if accurate) is not an insurmountable lead by any means. I’m still very optimistic about a McCain win, but with expectations for an Obama win as high as they are among certain groups, I’m also anticipating some violence if McCain does pull it out.

Anyway, congratulations to Canadian voters for demonstrating some good sense in these trying times. It does give us hope here that we can do the same.

Finally, Canadian conservatives are to the left of your Democrats. Actually, US conservatives are the rightest right wingers in the world.

Krydor on October 15, 2008 at 9:23 AM

How far to the left? Can you give examples?

Finally, Canadian conservatives are to the left of your Democrats.

Bullshite. While we Canucks have always had a little bit more of a liberal bent to our governments, conservatives are conservatives there.

I can guarantee that Steven Harper won because we are sick of watching the liberals in the Liberal party play it fast and loose with our money, our policies, and our rights. Steven Harper is a step in the good direction. But considering our recent governments of the Libs, that don’t take much.

They just elected the most Liberal candidate since Kennedy.

You-Eh-Vee on October 15, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Are you referring to Bobby or John? You might have something of a point with Bobby (not really), but John was certainly not a liberal. He was the first president to cut taxes since FDR, and he was a staunch anti-communist. He was no Goldwater, to be sure, but he was hardly a liberal in the same Marxism-with-fries way as Obama.

The Democratic Party has just finalized their plans for 2012. They are going to get McCain nominated AGAIN by doing the exact same thing they did this year.