Video: Subject of Obama’s “spread the wealth” comment warns of socialism
posted at 8:30 pm on October 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Oddly enough, he thinks The One plus a filibuster-proof Democratic Congress could mean serious redistribution. Get this man on the phone with Christopher Buckley, stat.
Exit question: Has Team McCain put this guy in an ad yet or are we now relying on Neil Cavuto to do the heavy lifting?
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Oh, I doubt this plumber went to Harvard… and he probably goes to Church… so, you know…
Y-not on October 14, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Can I nominate this guy for president?
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:35 PM
If Bob Schieffer is doing his homework, this would be a nice debate question for the Messiah. If McCain is doing his homework, this deserves a nice mention. Not holding my breath.
Marcus on October 14, 2008 at 8:36 PM
McCain is too busy. Sleeping.
Or whatever he’s doing. I have no idea anymore.
This is the 3rd most awesome thing to happen to McCain just this month. Could he please !@$%!@# capitalize, once?
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak
Hannibal Smith on October 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM
if we lose this, we lost it when obama won the primary. i think the american people simply refuse to believe that the democrats could have nominated a radical america-hating marxist, i mean it does defy belief, ergo any claims of that nature about him must be republican smears.
please, let’s make card check an issue. i think that could resonate better than all this other stuff. yes, obama is a marxist, i know it, you know it, but americans simply refuse to believe it could be possible, so we’re wasting our time with this, I think. i’m probably wrong, though!
AdrianG on October 14, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Palin/Wuerzelbacher08
ConservativePartyNow on October 14, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Um… doy?
Weebork on October 14, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Well said Joe. Maybe you should consider politics instead. Its a lot dirtier than plumbing but you seem like you could handle it. And good point about the American Dream which is basically what you stated. Work hard and you achieve, that’s America.
But under socialism, which is what Obama represents, the government will decided all paths for you. And of course only those who lend full support to the establishment will be chosen for the path of plenty.
Maxx on October 14, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Tapper had more on what Obama said to this guy.
It’s interesting.
MayBee on October 14, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Buttcracks and Moose Hunters ‘08!
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:41 PM
LMAO
A plumber has a better political antenna than a blue blood.
CanadianGuy on October 14, 2008 at 8:42 PM
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Don’t you sometimes wonder if ‘the other side’ wanted McCain because they knew he didn’t have it in him to fight? It seems as if Frank Davis and Bill Ayers have been grooming Obama since high school for this.
You’re correct, how many balls is McCain going to let go past him before he decides to swing?
red131 on October 14, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Average American not overwhelmed by his “presence”; yet Peggy Noonan is.
Average American thinks his answer was scary, labeling it socialist; don’t let Moran see this clip. Heartache.
Spirit of 1776 on October 14, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Well this 5 step plan sounds familiar!
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20081013IslamTargetsAmerica
christene on October 14, 2008 at 8:42 PM
I’ve said for months that McCain is a democrat plant.
There is no other explanation.
Link?
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM
A plumber! How declasse!
Christopher Buckley wouldn’t let such a lumpenproletariate lug in his house.
(Unless, of course, the servant’s toilet started overflowing into the maid’s pantry.)
PALIN-WURZELBACHER!
profitsbeard on October 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Get this guy in an ad McCain!
McCain really needs to hammer Obama on this and call it what it is: socialism.
jencab on October 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM
ButtHeads and Moosehunters 08
Fixed that for ya!
FloridaBill on October 14, 2008 at 8:44 PM
What a bitter clinger. /sarc
Seriously, this guy is right on!
CP on October 14, 2008 at 8:44 PM
It would be cool if McCain brought up the event during the debate….
“Just the other day a plumber asked Senator Obama about his tax plan…you know what his response was….”
that would be soooooo cool.
mindhacker on October 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM
……….. By the way, Robin Hood stole from the Government and then made it available to the people that the Government had just taken it from by higher and higher taxes.
Barak Obama is no Robin Hood………
Seven Percent Solution on October 14, 2008 at 8:48 PM
LMAO
A plumber has a better political antenna than a blue blood.
CanadianGuy on October 14, 2008 at 8:42 PM
dhunter on October 14, 2008 at 8:49 PM
From Jake Tappers interview with this plumber:
Correct me if I’m wrong; but what Obama was explaining to this guy was the Fair Tax not the Flat Tax. I wonder if Obama’s knows what he is talking about.
tdavisjr on October 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM
its not like Obama was a member of the New Socialist Party in the 90’s or anything, or schooled by Frank Davis, William Ayers and other Marxist.
of course not, it can’t be. A man like simply could not be nominated, this is all republican smears. Obama seems decent, I’m voting for him.
/idiot voter
jp on October 14, 2008 at 8:52 PM
sounds like he got his talking points mixed up in his head. since huckabee didn’t get nod probably hasn’t boned up on these in awhile
jp on October 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM
MEMO:To Team McCain/SarahCuda.
Get this Joe guy on the next ad,Expedite,ASAP,please!:)
Speaking of Socialism,I nearly fell over at the voting
booth tonite,they actually had a candidate for the
Marxist Lenin Communist ticket!
I joked with the election babette,I said,it must be an
Obama supporter,she laughed!
canopfor on October 14, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Link to Tapper for lorien.
MayBee on October 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM
I’da been happier with Plumber Joe on the ticket than McCain. He can at least make the case against Obama in a clear, simple way.
VolMagic on October 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Obama’s negligent public housing policies lead to a child’s death:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-willie-h.html
Let’s roll!
ex-Democrat on October 14, 2008 at 8:58 PM
I second that!
Cr4sh Dummy on October 14, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Obama is presupposing that there would be exemptions similar to today. If remove all exemptions (lawyer fees, churches, etc), the tax rate does drop to around 20% or so.
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 8:59 PM
So it is a war on success, isn’t it?
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Actually keep McCain away from this guy. He might admonish him for his comments and remind him that “Senator Obama is a decent family and citizen. You have nothing to afraid of by Obama as president.”
CanadianGuy on October 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Not if you have a time machine, lorien. You can go back 10 years, elect Obama, and start saving your money.
MayBee on October 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Gov Palin’s running mate?
tarpon on October 14, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Obama fails to address what magic happened to make this guy successful when there was apparently no opportunity for anyone else.
MayBee on October 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM
In any other election this moment would be forever known as “The plumber Joe moment” studied in polisci classes forever, like the “Ponytail guy” and all these other things but no… not with Obama-san 08′.
Cardiganfox on October 14, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Yet, average Americans are voluntarily going to vote to destroy themselves.
7%, Obama is the wolf, who fools the sheep to vote for wolves, who will then devour the same sheep.
The sheep are the stupid ones.
Entelechy on October 14, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Does Obama think he’s convincing us of the failure of a flat tax with this scary number?
When I add up all the taxes I’m paying now; fed, state, local, property, school, sales, I think I’m already giving up 40% of my income. With Obama running the show, I guess we’ll just fork over everything we earn.
Vote Obama. Get Forked Over.
fogw on October 14, 2008 at 9:09 PM
profitsbeard, to repeat, to read your comments is a joy. Thank you for all, and for being here.
To the plumber, one of my favorite professional jokes – a doctor calls a plumber to fix his pool. $900 later/per hour, he tells the plumber “I never get this much per hour and I’m a doctor”. The plumber “I didn’t either, when I was a doctor”.
Entelechy on October 14, 2008 at 9:12 PM
fogw, the answer is to not work so much any longer. I’ve done my part and under his reign, I’ll take it easier. Time to get something for nothing. Why give, give, give? Being good gets you to be a fool, from both sides.
Why do we reward, from the left to the right, the 535+ morons who represent us, by reelecting them?
Entelechy on October 14, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Lets roll….
ex-democrat on Oct 14,2008 at 8:58PM.
ex-democrat:Its going to be interesting how they spin it!
On Pamela’s site also,while Rezco was handing
over money for Obama’s campaign,an apartment
complex that Rezco owned had to go to court,
to force Rezco to turn the heat on,I think,
this last January!
canopfor on October 14, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Yes along with every other person that is scared to death of an Obama Presidency.
Theworldisnotenough on October 14, 2008 at 9:16 PM
And because the “rich” give more charitable contributions (except for Greasy Joe), the more taxing that Obama does, the less they will have to give to charities. And we all know that charities do the bulk of the humanitarian work in our communities.
If McCain understood economics, he pounce on this stuff. As it is he has to rely on others to point it out to him.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 9:17 PM
It seems to me he is saying “small business creates jobs” (say that in a Tina Fey accent and see how stupid it sounds), but he’s going to tax small business and give that money to the people on the bottom so the people on the bottom can afford to hire the small business.
It’s his bottom up model, as opposed to thinking the small business creates jobs that pay people, so that people who have jobs can afford to pay for goods and services.
MayBee on October 14, 2008 at 9:17 PM
I love you! (in the platonic sense) Too many of us are complaining about what will happen if Obama is elected. We need to just go with the flow and get ours. The sooner the country hits rock bottom, the sooner we can get back to having real conservatives running.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 9:20 PM
I third the motion for the Plumber and demand he is made Secretary of the Treasury! I think he would be far better than Paulson and anyone McCain would pick, other than Romney.
Is it not just wonderful to see normal Americans being truly American! This made me believe not all Americans need to be boxed up and air dropped into some socialistic country in order to understand why this country is so great.
freeus on October 14, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Right after this event, Obarfy fired a staffer or two for letting Mr. Plumber get close enough to ask a question in front of the cameras.
Super Messiah isn’t used to being closely questioned, he likes the dolts who ask questions such as, “So can I like name my baby after you and stuff?”
Bishop on October 14, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Yeah, maybe the sheep are stupid. I get that. But the sheep shouldn’t have to frisk everyone in the herd. The damn sheepdog should do that.
The media has covered up for this joker. I don’t blame people who don’t know who BO really is, who’s telling them? Sure not John McCain, and Palin’s only been on the job a few weeks.
Yeah, the people get the government they deserve; I agree, I say that myself. And some of the government is better then the rest. Some representatives are working hard for the people.
Spirit of 1776 on October 14, 2008 at 9:23 PM
We need to just go with the flow and get ours.
If you have kids, don’t let them see you doing it. If anything, the younger generations who can still be saved must be.
Bishop on October 14, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Obama’s plan doesn’t encourage growth or create sustainable wealth. He takes money from the plumber and gives it to his customers. They in turn give it back to the plumber. The government in turn takes it from the plumber and gives it back to his customers. It’s a vicious cycle that never ends.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Exactly.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Ad I’ve said before…
The Rally cry of the Second American Revolution will be…
No Representation without Taxation!
Romeo13 on October 14, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Team McCain. Plumbers rock. Employ this guy. Get a clue.
Disturb the Universe on October 14, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Gonna be a lot of cash under the tables,
and Obama won’t get his greedy socialist
paws on the ‘Tax money’s’,'Wink,Wink’,a hem!!
canopfor on October 14, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Congressmen are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason.
Murphy9 on October 14, 2008 at 9:28 PM
He’s gonna need a bodyguard. And I’m shocked they haven’t called him a Republican plant/spy/racist who is NOT the plumber Obama thought he knew!
tree hugging sister on October 14, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Don’t know the guy – but I like the guy.
Why?
Cuz standing side by side with an average American small business owner, Obama looks like the nancy-boy elitist we all know him to be.
I honestly don’t think Obama gets this country. I really don’t. And it is exhibited here.
BTW – what’s been left out of the video is Obama’s long-winded attempt to sell this guy on his Presidency. And if you actually see the whole converation – the impression you’re left with is a short discussion between a DOER and a TALKER.
And the plumber ain’t the talker.
dugan on October 14, 2008 at 9:29 PM
this guy knows more than Obama. And people like Allah wonder why we love Gov. Palin. Havard does not make a person smart. It is a school that you only get into because you have money. Like being a knight. Nothing more nothing less.
unseen on October 14, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Well, I guess that guy just disqualified himself from joining a Frank Luntz undecided focus group. His IQ is way to high.
John Doe on October 14, 2008 at 9:31 PM
LOL… yeah, Plumbers know how to deal with human waste…
Romeo13 on October 14, 2008 at 9:31 PM
It’s like cutting a foot off one end of a rope and tying it to the other end to make it longer. Every time you do this the rope gets shorter.
None of this is worth talking about… no one’s getting a tax cut. Clinton promised the same thing in 1992 and we all know how that turned out.
The deficit was a record $455 billion for 2008 (the fiscal years ends Sept 30). 2009 is projected to be over $700B.
There’s not going to be any money for much of any thing Barry’s promising.
Chuck Schick on October 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM
All my kids are grown. One in Iraq (comes home Nov 11) and one headed to the North Arabian Gulf in January. The other two are living in town. I taught them to be self sustaining and internally motivated. Also, I taught them to be pragmatic and not complain about that which they cannot change. If the situation arises (God forbid!) and they are in position to legally take advantage of Obama’s spread the wealth programs, I will encourage them to do so and instead of living high on the hog, they should scrimp and save so that when the opportunity presents itself, they are in a position to take advantage of it.
This is the best way to defeat Obama’s socialism. Instead of putting every dime into more consumption (which he thinks people will do), you save it for the day that you are able to create wealth for yourself by taking advantage of others misfortunes.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Wow, Joe is not only “clean and articulate,” but he is a self-starter, he knows what the American Dream means, and he has a fundamental understanding of economics. He needs to tutor Obama on the facts of life.
onlineanalyst on October 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM
And it is the governments bureaucracy that is the knot.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I love liberals like Obama. ” I just love the middle class….just don’t ask me to actually meet any of them.”
I’m conviced that most of these people really are clueless about our modern economy and how much of it is driven by small businesses. Obama’s unscripted answer betrays his inaccurate view of where jobs come from.
But this really is classic “progressive” economic theory. Left wing economists really believe that putting a few more bucks in the pockets of lots of people making $40,000 a year will drive enough consumer spending and demand to create more jobs. I guess we are about to find out if they are right.
rockmom on October 14, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Even simpler, the guy works for a living. Obama’s rarely worked an honest day in his life, if ever. The same can most likely be said for OBiden.
AubieJon on October 14, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Wait till THIS hits the airwaves. The Obamanuts are going to go completely insane! Bwahahaha! At least somebody’s out there fighting!
TheBigOldDog on October 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
This guy best watch it… The Dems will be investgating him, and whether he actually makes 250. You watch.
kevinkristy on October 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Using this election cycle as a point of reference, we Republicans re-elect them through fear of living in a socialist state.
I suppose the Democrats do the same through fear of having Republicans putting a stop to their socialist agenda.
So to answer your question, it is out of fear. Republicans fear the end of America as we know it. Democrats fear the end of America will not come soon enough.
fogw on October 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Short, to the point, and punchy. I like it!
Spirit of 1776 on October 14, 2008 at 9:45 PM
They can’t air this on TV can they? Cuz of CFR?
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
“I’m going to take away your money and give it to other people, but they might give some of it back to you, so you should be grateful!”
How about no? Can we say no at this point?
Merovign on October 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I couldn’t help but notice the body language. Obama first touches the plumber’s arm confident that he was going get another softball question, or the usual gushing idol worship. When Obama tried again, the guy locked his arms folded in front of his chest like fortress–essentially demonstrating, ‘Don’t touch me again, dude.’
Urban Infidel on October 14, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. Unless things fall apart at which time we reserve the right to get on our knees and beg for a taxpayer funded bailout of our ponzi schemes. During such times, gommit run socialism is the best path.
Murphy9 on October 14, 2008 at 9:50 PM
This the kind of people we all hope show up at the polls.
thmcbb on October 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM
<blockquoteI couldn’t help but notice the body language. Obama first touches the plumber’s arm confident that he was going get another softball question, or the usual gushing idol worship. When Obama tried again, the guy locked his arms folded in front of his chest like fortress–essentially demonstrating, ‘Don’t touch me again, dude.’
Urban Infidel on October 14, 2008 at 9:47 PMYES!!! I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I even commented to my husband after the second laying on of hands by Obama and the gentleman crossed his arms, that this guy didn’t like the touching at all.
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Glynn on October 14, 2008 at 9:56 PM
This the kind of people we all hope show up at the polls.
thmcbb on October 14, 2008 at 9:53 PM
They will, it’s why Obarfy is pulling out every last smear, lie and slur they can to keep us away, the writing is on the wall.
I have confidence that enough people will reach the booth and refuse to pull the lever for Obabmo; it will be a nationwide gut check.
Bishop on October 14, 2008 at 9:58 PM
These are the kind of people who WILL crawl through broken glass to show up at the polls . . .
IF. . .
Tomorrow night McCain will show the common sense & old-fashioned American spunk of millions of Joe the Plumbers from all OVER the US.
Marybeth on October 14, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Maybe the Republicans should have run this guy for President. He’s making the case against Obama better than McCain does.
nocomme1 on October 14, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Neil wanted to know why he wasn’t shaking and star struck in the presence of Obama. Answer is because this plumber is a real American. He’s not looking at Obama or any other President as some kind of messiah sent from heaven who holds the answer to every problem in the world!
That is the way Americans should look at their Presidents!
This plumber has a better grasp on the economy than 300 hundred Harvard elites and a room full of community organizers!!
I agree! Get this guy on a commercial!
JellyToast on October 14, 2008 at 10:06 PM
AMEN!
Glynn on October 14, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Would be interesting to listen to the whole video. Obama is certainly lecturing the guy.
JellyToast on October 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Is it too late to get this guy to prep McCain for tomorrow’s debate?
nocomme1 on October 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Gore
Kerry
Obama
They KEEP nominating radical America hating Marxist!! AND, they keep losing….as they will this year.
OSUBuciz1 on October 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
And where, o where are you voting, pray tell?
oldleprechaun on October 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
This is also the kind of people that are a threat to the messiah and liberals in general! Ordinary hard working smart Americans who don’t feel the least like falling down to worship with the rest of the numbskulls! Not only did this guy refuse to fall at Obama’s feet, he actually asked a real question and told Obama his tax plan was stupid!
They gotta get control of these events more! No more real Americans at the rope line!
JellyToast on October 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM
That’s right. I couldn’t believe Obama actually touched him. That’s grounds for fist to nose and knee to nads. I would have promptly beat him good for making a pass at me. Sick bastard.
Of course, I couldn’t blame Obama for turning gay since we know what his wife is like.
Seriously, you don’t freakin touch another man like that. You are just asking for trouble.
Sapwolf on October 14, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I guess this will be the end of letting Obama take any more unscripted questions.
csdeven on October 14, 2008 at 10:23 PM
The laying on of the hands is one of Obama’s trademarks. I guess he thinks that the gesture is supposed to inspire an empathy. Joe’s locked arms reinforced his skepticism. Way to go, Joe. Don’t let the Amway salesman lure you into his pyramid-Ponzi scheme.
onlineanalyst on October 14, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Some one help me with a cartoon, I can’t draw….
Scene opens with a boy chopping wood and a bunch of other boys just watching…
The boy finishes the arduous task and the man who hired the boy pays him 10 bucks.
The other boys stand up and start to follow the boy who was just paid; asking him what he is going to do with the money. The boy says he wants to buy a new ax.
Observing from distance, a man from Chicago over hears one of the boys wishing he had some money. He says to himself as he ducks into a nearby port-a-potty, “This is a job for Obamaman!”
The boy who received the ten dollars for his hard work is accosted by a tall masked man with a giant “O” on his chest. “Stop, in the name of fairness!” Obamaman shouts. Obamaman grabs the ten dollars from the boy and hands him one dollar giving the rest of the money to the other boys.
“This is what is fair.” Obammaman says. Now they have a chance to be successful too.
Obammaman runs away, yelling “Tax tax and away.”
end.
mindhacker on October 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Robin Hood? The Dems always leave out that in most incarnations of the tale, the poor had been taxed into poverty by the king, and Robin Hood was actually stealing from the coffers, incurring the wrath of the tax collector, the Sheriff of Nottingham.
angelat0763 on October 14, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Alexes Glick FOXBuisness is making excuses for Obama. I had a feeling she was a lefty.
KBird on October 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Did they loop that video or was Obama talking that whole time? Talk about Hot Air!
Mr_Magoo on October 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Maybe you need to understand his “father figure Frank” from his teen years in Hawaii… maybe you might find clues as to this touching stuff….
CC – BHO: “my Muslim faith”
CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Spirit of 1776 on October 14, 2008 at 9:23 PM
MDS, nice complement writing. Agree, sadly.
csdeven, love you too. My very best to you, family, especially the special ones.
I disagree with you, politely, on the “hitting bottom”. It’s better to stop the wreck now. Country first.
Murphy9, indeed, on the diapers.
Entelechy on October 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM
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