McCain: I’ll “probably” hit Obama on Ayers tomorrow night
posted at 12:20 pm on October 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Politico’s trying to make it sound like McCain feels his masculinity’s been impugned and now he has no choice but to go after The One to defend his honor. Judge for yourself; the part about Ayers comes a little more than halfway through. To me, it sounds like he’s simply saying he expects the subject to come up now that it’s a topic of national discussion (sort of) and that, if it does, he’ll happily follow through. But he’s still repeating the line about Ayers being a “washed-up old terrorist,” which suggests that if he does attack, it won’t be in the context of a larger point about Obama’s radical associations but a narrow point about his truthfulness on this subject. If he’s not willing to paint a picture — Ayers, Wright, Rezko, ACORN, etc. — then all he’s arguing, really, is that Obama’s embarrassed about the fact that he used to work with Ayers and trying to downplay it now. Are a million votes going to flip because of that?
He does sound mighty chipper in the clip, though, as if he’s raring to go. Tomorrow’s debate might just be watchable. Exit question: If Bob Schieffer doesn’t bring up Ayers, will McCain force the issue?
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Advice to Mac – Please do not telegraph your debate strategy!
Y-not on October 14, 2008 at 12:23 PM
What the heck is McCain going to hit BHO with? Mac already said that BHO is a swell guy who will only make a little worse President than McCain, but nothing to worry about.
Sheesh.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I’d love for when Obama deflects the Ayers question by talking about how they just worked together on “education”, McCain hits him with how nut-ball/Year Zero their education proposals were… but I’d also love to ride unicorns to work.
Pasalubong on October 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Obama will have his pat answer, they have had a week since the throw down to determine the best retort. It should be a good one.
right2bright on October 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM
And if McCain doesn’t talk about Ayers.. then what? Wright? Rezko? B.O.’s odd way of saying “present” while in Session?
McCain grow a pair already! Talk about it… WTF is it going to do other then show the Nation you are concerned!!!
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Please bring up Ayres’ ghostwriting of Hussein’s Dreams of my Polygamous Father!!!
Akzed on October 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM
finished we are. He won’t f*uckin do the deed. I give up supporting this guy.
blatantblue on October 14, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Right after McCain just berated his own supporters and telling them that there is nothing to fear about a BHO Presidency.
McCain is killing us.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I am praying for Bob Schieffer. He could make history for himself as exposing Obama for who he really is.
surfer girl on October 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM
The media is actually covering Acorn. People already associate Fannie and Freddie with the economy and it’s troubles. I hit those and throw in Ayers by way of Annenberg. He apparently wont throw in Wright but he really should.
1. Fannie Freddie
2. Acorn
3. Redistribution comments
4. Ayers Wright Rezko
Dash on October 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Enough with Ayers, he’s second string next to Wright and Calypso Louie.
This man would bomb Egypt to bring Iran to its knees.
Hening on October 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM
NICE!
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Honestly, I hope it just doesn’t come up. Every mention of it is an excuse for the media to ignore McCain’s economic policy. He needs to hit Obama on the economy, relentlessly. He needs to convince Americans that his tax policies will lead to more abundant and stable jobs, whereas Obama’s tax policies will send more jobs overseas. That’s what will sway voters in crucial swing states. Nobody cares about a lefty bombthrower who’s managed to stay on the right side of the law for 30 years.
Caiwyn on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Oh please. McCain will do his usual bipartisan crap.
lodge on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Because McCain views Ayers as just a washed up terrorist (like a terrorist is comparable to an old ball player or something) and only seems concerned about Obama’s truthfulness about the relationship it’s clear that McCain does not understand or does not see the relevance of all the radical associations.
CanadianGuy on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
McCain is playing some head games with Obama right now. Whether or not he brings it up, it will play on Obama until the debate.
carbon_footprint on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
The only thing that is killing us is the Media, the people who believe it and the people who don’t know how to speak out about it.
Which one are you?
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM
That McCain took the bait on Ayers isn’t surprising, given his considerable ego. If he really does follow through, it will just reinforce the negative associations that McCain’s campaign already has, which has worked to Obama’s advantage among independent voters.
starfleet_dude on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Oh and after McCain goes after Obama on Ayers, he’ll give him a present.
CanadianGuy on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I think it’s funny how everyone is so steamed with McCain because he won’t do what we want him to do.
He’s a Maverick, people. He demonstrated during the immigration fiasco that he really doesn’t give a damn about what the base wants him to do – he’s going to do whatever he damn well wants because he, not us, knows what’s good for the country.
I’m as depressed about it as anyone, but I fail to see how everyone is so surprised by this whole thing. It’s what he does – he doesn’t give a crap about what we want him to do.
World B. Free on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Hey McCain, why don’t you just send Obama a transcript of what you are going to say, along with tips on how to respond effectively.
Jeez Louise … it’s like I was saying a few months ago … this guy wants to lose.
thirteen28 on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
“Probably”, if it comes up and the time is right and Obama doesn’t get too angry…LOL!
Fletch54 on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Explain how ayers is the “bait”.
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM
It seems a little odd that McCain periodically talks about Obama voting “Present” when it seems like that’s all McCain is prepared to do in this upcoming
debacledebate.nocomme1 on October 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM
If not on Ayers, please Senator Mccain, at least hit him on ACORN and antionalization of banks, Fannie/Freddie etc. They should be legitimate targets even in your view. Please don’t let the free world down.
promachus on October 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
In addition to Ayers he also needs to hit Obama hard on the ACORN voter fraud highlighting Obama’s close relationship through his “community organizing” work with ACORN (Obama trained their staff) and how ACORN was also instrumental in the current FM/FM meltdown due to ACORN’s strong arm tactics against banks (forcing banks to make risky loans).
Then McCain needs to tie it all up with a nice neat bow at the end by reminding people how he tried to warn of the impending financial meltdown several years ago, yet no one listened, and furthrmore how he had co-sponsored a bill to provide stricter government oversight on GSE’s yet the dems voted it down!
If he does this it will expose THE ONE as having no clothes, but he needs to make the case with all of the above, connect the dots that prove that Obama is an empty suit, that he’s not ready to lead, and that Obama’s agenda does not place America and country first!
Liberty or Death on October 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
The question that needs to be asked to BHO is quite simple:
What do you think the appropriate punishment is for someone who wages war on the US and bombs the US Capital and the Pentagon?
Let B Hussein say that that behavior deserves 5-10 and let America hear that. Then we can talk about how BHO will be friends with Bin Laden in a few years, after all the hullabaloo about 9/11 recedes into the past (as the idiot libs have been trying so hard to do, on their own).
There is no difference between Ayers and Bin Laden, save the scale of the acts. But Ayers did all he could. That is a fact.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Hey, it’s finally worked. All of the negative news and commentary finally pushed me over the edge. I agree. We need to lose this election and lie down and let Obama win.
I agree with Yoda here, mister Juan McAmnesty betrayed us he has. Need to stop supporting him we do. Democrats win the whitehouse they shall. because support not what giving to GOP anymore I am.
Accomplished is your mission padawan astroturfer. Heruumm??? Ah he he heh aha ha hah hah!
Like my Yoda impression?
wise_man on October 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
There’s too much of Bi-Partisan John in there to bring this up in a skilled manner, tying the association with Ayers and Ayers’ beliefs about America into an indictment of Obama’s judgment and questions about what Obama would really want to do once in office. If he broaches the issue it will be just a glancing blow with little or no context, which Barack will be able to easily swat away (especially since the moderator isn’t going to push the issue).
jon1979 on October 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Does McCain really want to come across as the “angry” guy again like he was viewed in the first 2 debates?
cornfedbubba on October 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
The “bait” is actually Obama double-dog daring McCain to have the guts to bring up the issue of guilt-by-association with Ayers to Obama’s face, and McCain bit. Not smart on McCain’s part, given his rising negatives with voters.
starfleet_dude on October 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Seriously, the Ayers issue has been completely whitewashed and barely scratched over… I wonder if it comes up if he’ll just puss out or play the judgment card…
Here is how I would play it…
McCain: “Well, senator you’ve been playing guilt by association between me and Bush.. yadda”
Obama(if he takes the bait): “Do you honestly think I share Ayer’s views”
McCain: “Well, how should we discern your true views? From the rhetoric on the campaign trail or who you granted money to?” Bang Bang Bang….
ninjapirate on October 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I have my own candidate fighting with me at every turn and constantly talking about what a great guy BHO is. Call it what you want, but I know what it feels like. And, given the exceedingly weak situation of our financial system, I also know how much power is going to be given to the next President and how fearful people should be about that.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Your MDS is causing you to hallucinate. McCain has been defending his supporters – for example:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/mccain_ayers_still_wants_to_de.asp
When a disturbed and frightened woman started talking about what she had “read” about Obama, and tremblingly began to talk about his being an “Arab,” McCain calmed her down. He didn’t “berate” her, or anyone else.
If you think that a winning strategy – not to mention a responsible one – would be to whip up partisan anger into a froth and have crowds screaming for Obama’s blood, you’re nuts.
We may elect someone who is in fact or effect a democratic socialist who is comfortable with radicals. Our system allows for that unfortunate possibility. The only alternative is civil war and/or authoritarian government.
CK MacLeod on October 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
And if he does bring it up? What say you then… and being the fact you actually BELIEVE polls is another matter altogether.
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
McCain should bring up “You judge a person by the company they keep”… bring up how he hardly gets along with Bush…
ninjapirate on October 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Gimme a break wise man. We can support him all we want but if he doesn’t support HIMSELF it’s done!
You can’t win by disliking the other guy a lot and not liking your guy much. The dems tried this with Kerry.
How did that end up?
blatantblue on October 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
I think Mac should lose his temper a bit…and say he’s angry at congress and fears that the same clowns in congress (Pelosi, Frank, Dodd) that got us into this mess to begin with, will now have complete power to steamroll any legislation they want.
I also think it may be possible that McCain does not want to be seen as the guy who brings down the election of the first black president (apologies to Bubba Clinton)…which is why he is so reluctant to attack…
joepub on October 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
MCCAIN is a boxing fan as well as other sports. Will you tell your opponent what the hell you will do?
McCain is either stupid or very confident.
jencab on October 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM
and you think B.O. is going to make it better? Or the fact that the economy is going to tranform?
The only people whom made the economy “weak” are the rejects that were elected to SEAT the people in that position. And the people trading stock like it was baseball cards, and the people whom wanted to get one over on the dumb consumer, and the dumb consumer. FYI idiot, it was many people in the situation we are in… not just 1 damn person.
Go vote for B.O. and STFU!
Wow you do live in a delusional world of imagination. Gone to Disneyworld’s Epcot and see Figment much?
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Note to McCain:
Please call Stanley Kurtz before tomorrow night.
Even better, just print out Ed’s post
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/14/kurtz-wright-matters/
and read a bit of it at the debate and be sure to give announce the dubya-dubya-dubya hotair dot com address so everyone can read it all for themselves.
Brat on October 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Thats okay Mac, I’ll “probably” vote for you next month. ; )
Angry Dumbo on October 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Since Saddleback–and with the exception of sucking the air out of Obama’s Invesco Field sermon and the RNCC–McCain’s been exceedingly disappointing. But maybe he’ll surprise us, bookend the debates, and finish strong. I’m wondering if he learned a little bit about mind games in that POW camp 40 years ago.
Figuratively speaking and solely in a rhetorical sense, of course, I’d really like McCain to take it to Obama the way Capone (Robert DeNiro’s character) took it to a screw-up underling with a baseball bat in The Untouchables.
BuckeyeSam on October 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM
If McCain follows through, it will reinforce the perception that he’s an angry old man. All Obama has to do in response is be calm and reasonable, which as we know he can do despite any provocation on McCain’s part. As for the polls, they work and you can be sure both campaigns pay attention to them as well as their own internal polling.
starfleet_dude on October 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Hardly.
McCain replies, “Well, I don’t want him to be president, either. I wouldn’t be running if I did. But,” and he pauses for emphasis, “you don’t have to be scared to have him be President of the United States.”
Anyone with a brain SHOULD be scared of BHO as President.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM
(** Wednesday night at the debate **)
McCain: Senator Obama, I think your association with William Ayers needs closer inspection.
Obama: Well John, as I have always said, this has been discussed endlessly and there is nothing to see.
McCain: Oh, okay.
Vote McCain anyway.
CC
CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM
It doesn’t matter what McCain does. He has zero credibility, even among contributors to HotAir. If he self-immolates at tomorrow night’s debate, everyone will yawn and fall asleep. Nobody believes anything McCain or the GOP says. It is obvious that McCain doesn’t even believe what he himself says. He’s reading from an Oliver Stone script.
jay12 on October 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Yeah, right… I’ll hold my breath. NOT!
ErinF on October 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Polls are crap. Anyone can say anything concerning polls and it will be published.
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Huh? You don’t understand what I am saying. I am saying that BHO is clear threat to the US and all we have stood for and McCain is lying down and let BHO walk away with the Presidency, which will kill the US. BHO is a MAJOR threat and McCain needs to get his mind around that concept.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Advice to McCain on Ayers
Release this ad …
—-
I’m John McCain, and I approved this message – it’s about
my opponent and his relationship to Bill Ayers.
You’ll see a lot newscasts describing Ayers as a 1960s radical; Obama himself has said he was only eight when his friend bombed the Pentagon and bygones should be bygones.
In November of 2006, after helping Obama get his start in politics, after helping Obama get on various boards, Ayers appeared on stage with Hugo Chavez – to publically damn America, damn Americans, and declare his personal commitment to violent revolution and the overthrow of American democracy.
Ayers: not just a mellowed out 1970s radical: a rich kid turned traitor, and a formative influence for Mr. Obama.
Paul Murphy on October 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
all I can say is
http://www.getdrunkandvoteformccain.com
I’ll be having a few cocktails before I go to the polls.
HotAirExpert on October 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
He should also read the conclusion from the report on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from August 2003 (available online, unless scrubbed).
Bottom line: $161 million spent; no academic improvement achieved.
Keep in mind, that’s Obama only executive experience. And he’s the guy people want to be in charge of “spreading wealth”?
BuckeyeSam on October 14, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Is he going to come armed with specifics (pointing to CNN’s repot that Obama’s connection is deeper than he admits) or is he just going to give a generality that Obama will refute and call him a liar\distractor for and the conversation will move on?
amerpundit on October 14, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Well, crap. I misunderstood what you said. Sorry.
upinak on October 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM
If he says one more freakin’ time that he’s going to “reach across the aisle”, I’m voting for Barr. Sick of McCain.
If he somehow grows a pair by tomorrow night and puts up a Palin-style fight, he can win me back.
ErinF on October 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Will McCain ever rebut Obama’s tax proposals? Still waiting …
lorien1973 on October 14, 2008 at 12:51 PM
No problem. I try to stay away from complaining about McCain as much as I am able, but I feel like Lincoln watching McClellan piss it all away, for no reason. And a BHO Presidency will be far worse and more dangerous than most even have an inkling of.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Be nice if he would also ask about Frank Marshall Davis. Scroll down to second piece. http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/
a capella on October 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM
The first two were unbearable- One guy safely holding on to his lead while the other guy too clueless and senile to realize he still has to give America something to vote for.
Valiant on October 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM
You know, I wasn’t really thrilled with that response either, but I believe it is a two pronged defense.
One, I believe McCain is operating under the principle that the media will be influential with the “centrist independents” and he doesn’t want to alienate them. We’ll know if he was right on Nov 5th for that one.
Two, he knows that he and everyone who voted for him will be called a racist on Nov 5th if he wins. With little sound bites like this in the mix, it provides a fairly good way of washing that notion away. (After the dusts settles from the riots)
Anyway, I’m hoping to be called racist on Nov. 5th.
Marine_Bio on October 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM
You will in either outcome… it’s just that one may also result in a jail term to go with it.
CC
CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Don’t worry, you’ll be a called a racist, no matter what.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM
McCain needs to not only talk about Ayers as an unrepentant terrorist, but also that Ayers appointed Obama as Chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Board, whose ostensible purpose was to help Chicago schools. Then McCain should say that Obama worked on the Board for 6 years and spent $160 million, but the Board’s own report says that the schools receiving the money showed NO improvement in test scores. This is Obama’s ONLY executive exerience–six years, $160 million wasted, ZERO results. Obama can’t be trusted with $3 trillion in taxpayer money!
This argument needs to be framed not only as “guilt by association” but also as Obama’s failure to obtain useful results using other people’s money, which is a legitimate issue for someone wanting to be President.
Steve Z on October 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM
If he promises to “reach across the aisle” to grab hold of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd so that he can kick them in their groins, that would be a sure vote getter.
I also say that he should take the opportunity to do one (or both) of the following: (1) identify some prospective cabinet members (and have them posed at mikes immediately after the debate) and announce that Rudy G. as AG will be hunting down dogs in Congress and elsewhere over Freddie and Fannie, and (2) announce that he’ll appoint some kind of a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of the Fannie and Freddie mess–not sure who to suggest…Fred Thompson?
BuckeyeSam on October 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Well what do you know. “Senile” is the one of the running anti-McCain lines from the democrats. But I am sure it’s just a coincidence.
wise_man on October 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM
That’s your prerogative, but a vote for Barr is a vote for Obama.
Maybe I’m misinterpreting your posts from earlier this summer, but it seems as though you like(d) Palin, which is a little contradictory to your objections to McCain’s bi-partisanship since she has touted in her speeches how she has reached across party lines in some of her appointments. I understand the frustration with McCain not being conservative enough, but I don’t see why that would drive someone to vote in a way that helps Obama win.
Y-not on October 14, 2008 at 1:01 PM
The time to fret about the collapse of McCain is coming to an end.
Now we have to think about what might have been and we have to start learning for the future.
First off, how to keep the Dems out of GOP primaries.
Then, consider the other contenders and how they might have fared. Huckabee? Romney? Giuliani? even Jindal, or even Palin. How could any of these been worse than what we are seeing now?
Next, how are we going to overcome the Obama juggernaut against talk radio and even Conservative blogs? What are our options re new media?
Finally, strategize for 2012. We must do this now.
jay12 on October 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM
The last two debates were instructive. McCain, supposedly old, was the more energetic, intelligent, better-spoken of the two. Timid and gawky Obama got smaller and smaller in each debate.
Don’t let anyone spin the debates for you. If you didn’t watch them, watch the clips and judge for yourself. People who complain about McCain didn’t watch the debate, or had their own agenda. Some conservatives want McCain to speak directly to them, and are appalled that McCain would reach to independents and undecideds. And trolls want to encourage the lie that McCain lost the debates, when he absolutely whipped that young punk.
bonnie_ on October 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Just give it a break, already. Your time would be better spent writing to McCain and trying to get him in gear instead of using his tactics of attacking his own voters.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Seeing’s believin’
I’ve given up on Mav. If he wins, it will be because he’s been dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line.
I’d like to see him open up on the little squirrel with both barrels, Ayers and Wright. But in tomorrow’s debate I expect him to help himself little, and I’ll probably be capping off the show with a hemlock toddy.
petefrt on October 14, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Good God, here we go again:
McCain: “Okay my friends, here’s what I’m going to do…(don’t worry, Obama can’t hear us)…..first; I’m going for his jaw, then I’m going for his mid-section, then I’m going to rope-a-dope for exactly 2 minutes, and then I’ll hit him with a round-house and then I’ll finish with a hay-maker.
Now, the element of surprise is everthing. We don’t want Obama to know what’s coming……so keep this under your hats.”
FiveWays on October 14, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Wise: I think Ed forgot to spray this morning… trolls and astroturfers are thick today.
CC
CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Well isn’t that special. I’m sure the NYT, LAT, CNN, ABC, CBS and DNCMSNBC are swarming all over this story.
Brat on October 14, 2008 at 1:04 PM
I just heard on Fox that McCain was very tough {their words} on Obama and his economic plan…and McCain came up with his own plan today. Tax cuts among other things.
I imagine that in the last debate more things will come up than did the last time in that silly socalled town hall.
Terrye on October 14, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Are you talking about the time he took the microphone from the woman in the town hall who just called Obama a Aye-Rab?
So McCain should have agreed with that woman and everyone else that he is?
wise_man on October 14, 2008 at 1:08 PM
OT:
PALIN ON RUSH IN 30!!!
Carry on.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 14, 2008 at 1:09 PM
If he SOMEONE (527 / RNC) doesn’t hit WRIGHT, McCain is doomed.
marklmail on October 14, 2008 at 1:13 PM
She was voicing legitimate concerns. BHO supports the arab view of the world – as well as many of the other anti-American views that float around the idiocracy of the world. That should be enough for a reasonable person to be deeply concerned.
McCain’s lack of concern concerns me.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Even my 70 year old mother who never has any idea what’s going on has been hearing about ACORN. ACORN should be number one because it’s the perfect way to tie Obama to the subprime debacle as well all the election fraud that’s going on.
But again, McCain has to have the balls to go after Obama on this. And I haven’t seen him really go after Obama in either of the previous two debates. He should at least be making those points at every campaign stop he makes.
eyedoc on October 14, 2008 at 1:15 PM
There is a shot.
By his conciliatory little oratorio about BO’s decency, McCain has proactively and publicly taken some of the wind out of the sails of those who would call him a hate-manger if and when he brings the Ayers matter up. The fringies, of course, will never be swayed. But those who are still amenable to reason will be forced to face the fact that McCain’s own words contradict the scurrilous memes being promulgated about his campaign (to the considerable chagrin of his own supporters!).
McCain: “Look, I made some people upset by saying that Senator Obama is a decent person who they should not fear. I meant that. Now to turn around and say that I’m promoting some kind of hateful propaganda is the worst kind of spin, and frankly is pretty insulting. If these are the tactics being employed by Sen. Obama’s campaign, then the American people need to ponder what that says about how an Obama Administration would conduct itself in Warshington, my friends…”
Noocyte on October 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM
You can tell when you hit a nerve with the Obambi campaign, and when certain issues scare them. The little Obambi trolls come out in force to try to beat down any enthusiasm a Conservative might be feeling. Happens here. Happens in the msm in general.
And for those of you pissing and moaning and giving up… feh.
Grow a pair and stop letting the media control you. McC isn’t a Republican. He’s merely the best democrat in the race, and the only viable alternative to an Obambi/Pelousi/Reid triumvirate that will decimate this Nation. He’s not trying to get your vote. He’s going for Independents and Centrist Democrats, of which there’s enough out there for him to win this thing.
Go spend some time on a PUMA site and see just how closely they’re aligned with Conservative Republicans right now. None of this is being covered in the msm, because it would work against getting the chosen one elected.
That’s the bottom line and the ONLY thing that matters at this point in time. We go to war with the leader we have, not necessarily the leader we want.
But go ahead and feel sorry for yourselves all you so-called rock-ribbed Conservatives, and drain energy better spent on educating the ignorant about just how dangerous Obambi actually is. Yeah, that’s smart.
I cannot believe how defeatist so many of you are. C’mon. Do you actually believe any of these polls, or any of the news specifically designed and engineered to produce just the kind of effect it’s having on you?
Don’t be suckers. America is still 60% Conservative and people are starting to pay attention. The only things that will give Obambi the victory are Conservative apathy and illegal ACORN votes.
techno_barbarian on October 14, 2008 at 1:17 PM
?
I’ll take terrorists I’ve served on boards with for $500, Bob.
The trolls lurking below the HA bridge don’t want to hear it but McCain’s debate performance needs to be coherent and express a theme. The reason why the man is losing badly in this election’s final weeks is because of his tendency to flitting from issue to issue without really drawing a clear distinction or making a decisive point.
On Ayers, the message should be something along the lines of not electing a man who associates with extremists and terrorists at a time when our troops are in harm’s way protecting the nation from extremists and terrorists. I don’t expect McCain to come anywhere close to a statement like that. After all, McCain has already declared that Obama would make a pretty darned good President too.
highhopes on October 14, 2008 at 1:17 PM
And what exactly is a “hate-manger?”
Please discuss…and no hate-mongering, please.
Noocyte on October 14, 2008 at 1:18 PM
+8.5
“My Muslim faith”
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CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Not that I have confidence this is going on but the RNC needs to be organizing an entire regiment of lawyers to challenge each and every outbreak of voter fraud that gets exposed to the point of demanding special observers in districts/states where ACORN is being investigated.
highhopes on October 14, 2008 at 1:21 PM
No, BHO is not a “clear threat to the US and all we have stood for.” If he’s a Hitler or an Osama bin Laden or some combination of the two, it’s hardly “clear.”
Indeed, one of the major things the US “stands for” is the right to make political (and other) mistakes – serious ones – without resorting to violence or giving in to panic.
When McCain was talking against being “scared,” he was exactly right. Being scared doesn’t help. I think the people he was talking to were literally afraid of Barack Obama as some kind of monster – not just as someone with bad policies and some unsavory friends, but as the end of democracy and the agent of a reign of terror. I take McCain at his word that he doesn’t see Obama as a monster.
As conservatives we may face a generation in the political wilderness. The country may be transformed for the worse from the point of view of human freedom – conceivably even to a pont of no return. It will take a lot more than one election and some bad laws, but the surest way to bring that about is through panic and uncontrolled anger – the kind of thing that leads the broad, pragmatic, innately conservative and skeptical populace to see the left as the guarantors of order, freedom, openness, and public peace, and the right as consisting of fearful weaklings going out of their friggin minds at the prospect of losing power.
CK MacLeod on October 14, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Oh, I get it. You’re actually a McCain supporter, are you?
wise_man on October 14, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Yes, but it needs to be taken a step further. The argument must be made that the reason Ayers selected Obama to run the Annenberg Challenge was because Ayers understood that Obama had the same political philosophy that he did. All McCain really needs to do in the next 3 weeks is increase Obama’s negatives by about 5% and it’s a new ball game. and I really don’t think it would be difficult to do that if McCain would grow a pair of cohones.
eyedoc on October 14, 2008 at 1:22 PM
McCain is a shmuck. Obama is knee deep in $hit over ACORN, Wright, Ayers, all the racist foundations he and his racist wife have worked for. McCain has failed to call him out on any of it, and the MSM is even more derilict.
What kind of Comander in Chief won’t attack when the cirecumstances scream for it. Obama is dripping with show stopper issues, and the Republicans and McCain are just standing around like a bunch of cows.
Like I said, McCain is a shmuck.
saiga on October 14, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Short of surrender, it’s the only choice there is.
petefrt on October 14, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Since I already voted for the man absentee, yes you worthless troll and arrogant prick, I support McCain but it is the qualified support that something like you can’t possibly fathom in your black/white world where McCain is without fault because he has an “R” behind his name.
It’s a little thing called critical thinking. Try that once you master the whole thinking stuff that will only happen when you STFU long enough to listen to something but your own echo chamber of RNC talking points.
highhopes on October 14, 2008 at 1:27 PM
If he does not phrase it right, forget it.
None of this pals with a terrorist, he has to frame it using Obama’s standard reply of being 8 years old when Ayers was bombing and terrorizing.
Such as “Obama says that when he was 8 years old his friend and associate Bill Ayers was bombing the Pentagon….”
And then he has to tie in that Ayers picked Obama because they share the same political agenda – a far-left socialist agenda and give some examples of the things they funded.
And it would be nice if McCain had some new photos or video of Ayers and Obama together that he will be releasing after the debate showing that Ayers was more than some guy that lived in the neighborhood.
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But I doubt McCain brings it up in the debate and I doubt he can hammer it home so everyone understands the seriousness of the possible future President and his socialist agenda.
albill on October 14, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Heh, whatever you say, battered wife.
wise_man on October 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM
It’ll never happen, but I sure wish someone would ask Obama about reparations.
“I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged,” the Democratic presidential hopeful said.
“I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it’s Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds.”
capitalist piglet on October 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM
What McCain ought to say is
“Look. Neither of us is really who we claim to be in this campaign. I am the one who often makes his own party angry and crosses party lines to work with others. Senator Obama is not the person he claims now to be either. He is the big spending, big taxing super-liberal who has never stood up to his own party and cannot work across the aisle. That’s the truth.”
drjohn on October 14, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Grownups live in a black and white world…. they look at shades of grey (positives and negatives) and do the adult thing… MAKE A DECISION. Nuance… shades of grey… just liberal BS.
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CapedConservative on October 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Problem. McCain can no longer attack Obama as being a Socialist, because he has supported, and proposed, Socialist policys for his own administration.
Hard to attack you opponent on a point, when its just a matter of degree, not a really opposing viewpoint.
Romeo13 on October 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Well, we disagree on how much of a threat BHO is. I would think, seeing the recent financial disaster and the massive moves by our government (without having any idea what they really wanted to do) I would think that reasonable people would understand the powers that are likely to be in the lap of the coming President.
But, I guess I’m just a loon. After all, that’s what I’ve been called for years as I railed against our insane monetary and socio-fiscal policy. But, maybe Paulson was just joking when he talked about “financial collapse” (and most people have no idea what financial collapse really means or what follows it).
Weak monetary systems bring heavy-handed leaders. The weaker the monetary system, the more power in the leader. That’s a lesson of history that all would be advised to look at, again. Take BHO’s economic plans and then think about what shape our monetary system will be in.
If you’re not scared, that’s great, but I am. This is one of the most dangerous times America has ever seen.
progressoverpeace on October 14, 2008 at 1:37 PM
nothing like giving BHO plenty of time to come up with just the right snarky response.
kirkill on October 14, 2008 at 1:43 PM
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