WaPo poll: Obama rated a “safer” choice for president than McCain
posted at 1:40 pm on October 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Three caveats off the bat: (1) Whereas WaPo has Obama up 10 among likelies, other polls like Rasmussen show the race tightening; (2) Tapper’s hearing from people inside Team Barry (perhaps trying to lower expectations) that Obama’s doing worse and McCain’s doing better than recent polls indicate and that it should be within three or so on election day; and (3) with the Dow up big today and further government action coming to put out the financial fire, the calmer things get economically, the better Maverick’s chances are.
Even so, we’re all wondering how well the Ayers attacks are working and this is the best measure I’ve seen so far. It’s true that the sample’s skewed more heavily towards the Dems than usual — 39 D, 30 R — but for perspective, note that the June 15 numbers were based on a sample of 38 D and just 26 R. The good news, I guess, is that Obama’s not any “safer” now than he was on September 29, but that’s a cold comfort for the Ayers strategy.
Either McCain’s not pushing it hard enough or it’s backfiring. The trend in favorables:
A separate question found that 68 percent think Obama’s addressing the issues versus 26 percent who think he’s attacking his opponent; for Maverick, the numbers are 26 percent and 59 percent (up 11 points since August), respectively. The debates aren’t helping either, with opinions of The One having improved 32 percent afterwards versus declined by just eight percent while for McCain it’s almost the opposite: 12 percent improvement versus 26 percent decline.
Here’s Kristol on Fox News Sunday anticipating this morning’s column by ranting about the state of Maverick’s strategy. Exit question: What’s McCain’s way out? He’s not going to push anything new on the economy, which 53 percent rate as their number one issue. Among that 53 percent, The One is favored — 62/33. Oof.
Update: The new Gallup’s just out. After showing the lead shrinking yesterday to seven points, it’s back to 10. Cue the warnings about weekend polls of conservative voters who are busy at church.
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I can see the signs at the border now “Welcome to the Allied States of America”
Viper1 on October 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Stay quiet, keep your head down, look confident, wait for your opponent to fail. That’s Obama’s strategy. Looks like it’s working.
Too bad that won’t work once he’s in power.
spmat on October 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Only to go competely nuclear at the debate.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Frankly, if anyone was watching the Ohio ACORN hearing, it’s quite obvious what the IQ is of Obama supporters.
Connie on October 13, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I just want to walk down the street and grab every fellow American I can and shake them violently until they grow a freaking brain!
aero on October 13, 2008 at 1:43 PM
So would a President Obarfo build walls to keep people inside the workers paradise?
Bishop on October 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE!!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Obama rated a “safer” choice for president than McCain?
Someone explain to me how it is a “safer” choice to be under the rule of President B.O. for four years, as opposed to having McCain calling the shots.
And I suggest you make it one heck of a convincing explanation.
pilamaye on October 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Our paper interviewed people on the street today asking them what their favorite Halloween costume was. Some guy said he is going to wear an Obama mask because he’d be popular. If he shows up at my door with friends, I’m going to give everyone but him candy. I’ll just tell him to ask his friends to redistribute theirs.
Connie on October 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Obama rated a “safer” choice for president than McCain
I looked outside my window just in time to see 4 strange looking dudes ride by on horseback.
Seriously, I can see many reasons why someone might pick Barry over Maverick, but this one defies belief. It’s like someone took reality and shoved it through some funhouse mirror.
Physics Geek on October 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Palin should be on the next plane to Alaska and Juan Mccain should stop wasting our time. This is the lamest candidate we could have nominated, and we know it. You can thank *uckabee for all this, I hope his show on Fox tanks. I cant believe that we are stuck with an inarticulate senator who should be in a retirement home, rather than in the whitehouse. Im just sick and tired of this bullshit and feel like throwing up.
texaninfidel on October 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Why do I care what Al-WaPo says?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Seriously. Here’s McCain’s only path:
Tie Obama to Acorn
Call for congressional resignations re the financial disaster.
promise a balanced budget within 2 years.
I don’t think he’ll do any of it though. Now that conservatives are whining that McCain’s rhetoric is causing racism and falling for the traditional liberal trap; he can’t do anything. Good job guys.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM
It all depends on what the meaning of safer is….
The fifth definition @ dictionary.com indicates, “5. careful to avoid danger or controversy….” If one eliminates danger, Nobama clearly is careful to avoid controversy!
Oxybeles on October 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Dude, quit talking in such self-help mantras. If he gets elected, we’re screwed, as is our party for the next decade or so.
To suggest Obama will merely make speeches as POTUS is just stupid. This is not a cartoon.
The Race Card on October 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I’m listening to Obama decide how to take all my money away and give it to other people.
Connie on October 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Ha. That’s awesome.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Yeah right….. he is about as effective as a one armed man in a wall paper hanging contest…..
Randy1968 on October 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
“pilamaye on October 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM”
mebbe we should ask KP …
:-)
Buckaroo on October 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH That’s awesome.
Let us know how many times you get called a racist. :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Fox News is covering Barry’s bloviations now. I had to turn the channel. Watching Barry spew lies is not a way to enjoy my day off.
What’s this I hear about Barry having a girlfriend (allegedly)? Hmmmmm…
Philly on October 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Actually, it’s the A.S.S. (American Socialist States).
Zo from Machosauce Production share his comments for the next debate prep.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Obama is soothing. Like a big whiff of ether.
Mr. D on October 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Won’t work for me… I live on the gulf coast in south Florida with great gulf access. All I have to do is gas up my boat and head for some Carribean island where hot DNC financial type babes hang out and enjoy myself….
CC
CapedConservative on October 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM
If democrats (I hate calling them that, they’re really not democrats anymore) get the numbers in the Senate and House, along with Obama winning … they’ll game the system to their favor along with pouring massive taxpayer money into groups like ACORN. The chances of Republicans winning another election fairly is probably slim to none.
In addition, by the end of four years I wouldn’t be surprised to see major industries nationalized and unions strengthened to the point of near invinceability.
In other words … we won’t win again, regardless of how many votes we get.
darwin on October 13, 2008 at 1:52 PM
And those 3 caveats are exactly way Obama took out the 30 minute spots, and why they would feel compelled to do so. Wizbang looked at the polls from 2004 and found they were wrong more often and mostly because of wrongly weighing the polls with more Dems. And I NEVER, EVER believe any polls taken over the weekend. There are usually the MOST heavily weighed Dem versus Republican.
The polls cannot factor in the OS moment some will have in the last private moment most voters are going to have in the voting booth. They also are not factoring in the sheer fear a large number of Americans have either. I believe a good number of people are lying to pollsters just to mess with the polls. Some just do not want their private views made to a stranger.
freeus on October 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Because you would be quoting them if they made a positive statement about McCain. You anti-MSMers are starting to sound like flat-Earthers.
If Wapo poll is so flawed, why would AP refer to it? If all polling and MSM reports are so flawed, why ever blog, comment or refer to them. Why not just let the lies lie where they are?
Instead, the standard Republican response is to discount any MSM report as inherently biased. This posturing basically forces you to pick and choose facts. Funny thing is that once you start citing facts in favor of McCain, they should be equally ignored based on your prior logic.
Whatever. You know what you’re doing. You know that you’ve been bitten by the Barkoutloud Bug and just can’t help yourself. You are as passionate and party p*ssy-whipped as your most lunar moonbat.
The Race Card on October 13, 2008 at 1:54 PM
RICO indictments against Acorn to be handed down in Ohio!
J.J. Sefton on October 13, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Go to Michelle’s site. McCain has ACORN ties as well.
God dammit. I hate McCain.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Look, McCain pulled the plug on the Ayers attack by declaring Obama a decent and honorable man who should not be feared . . . .blah blah blah. People have taken McCain at his word, no need to worry about Obambi. Hence, your poll #s. In short, McCain has himself torpedoed the fear/trust/how well do you know him attack. Ayers, Wright, New Party…it all comes to naught, because of what knothead said in MN on Friday.
james23 on October 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Obama is engaging… McCain represents government and corporate buerocratic managerialism … that’s the big difference at least style wise… we need policies which promote individual empowerment and power distribution… not trickle down/investor class/jobism… if McCain wants a good theme to build new policies around then go with “Service, Not Servility”
ninjapirate on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I never knew mental illness was contagious. That’s the only thing that explains the Obama phenomenon.
sheesh on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Obama is now repeating the Palin mantra and passing it off as his own.
Connie on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I don’t know if we should really use the polls as a judge of negative ads. After McCain released the Celeb ads the polls overwhelmingly said that people didn’t like it. But as time went on and the message sunk in the polls moved.
Its only been a week since McCain rolled out Ayers, he needs to have a series of ads questioning Obama’s character, associations and judgment. They should include Rezko, Ayers, Acorn and even Wright if McCain dares. At the beginning of this campaign people were uncomfortable with Obama, now they seem to be settling into the idea of Obama as president. McCain needs to reignite that skepticism and unfamiliarity. When he does that, let’s hope that it will last until election day.
Complete7 on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
(** Nov 4th… inside the voting booth **)
Selection for President of the United States of America
Republican – John Sydney McCain
Democrat – Barack Hussein Obama
(** Clint Eastwood voice in you head says: “Go ahead… pull that lever”**)
CC
CapedConservative on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I told you so.
And oh what about quoting this fact:
I know that you are trying, Allah. Keep trying.
Mcguyver on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Absolutely Brilliant!!!
cannonball on October 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Vera Baker alleged Finance Director (wink, wink)
Hurricane Michelle has swept her off to a cozy spot………………………………..in Martinique.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM
The word safe is subjective.
When people say safe, they might not be thinking of anyone like Ayers. They might be thinking of no war or they might be thinking of extended unemployment benefits or they might be thinking that all the media people just love Obama so he must be the safe bet.
Then there is the bandwagon effect. People assume the guy most people want, must be the safe, accepted candidate.
I know Kristol is railing about strategy and all that, but the truth is when the stock market started going into its nose dive McCain was either ahead or tied. And I think that has more to do with the slip in the polls than any strategy or lack of strategy.
The markets are hope and if people are feeling more secure about the economy in coming weeks that might help McCain.
I guess we will find out.
I posted this in the Gallup thread in the headlines, but I thought it was worth another post. AJ over at Strata-Sphere did this earlier today:
So let me get to the next poll out recently, the newly schizoid Gallup Daily Tracking Poll. I am being very cheeky here because Gallup is doing what I have been asking pollster to do for a while now – show us a range of turnout model predictions. Just like a storm track cone, different turnout model assumptions give different trajectories. So Gallup as done the nation a favor here and shown how turnout assumptions are driving Obama’s tilted numbers in many polls. Here’s their data:
Now we can see as fact how turnout models are twisting the polls (like the Newsweek joke we discussed above). First, note how Obama’s support is very large in the general pool of ‘registered’ voters. This is the standard tilt to the left of the general population, who don’t all vote. When you focus down on ‘likely’ voters we see the classic 3-5% shift to the right (which will be there all the way to the final voting day). Obama’s lead goes from +7% down to +4% using the classic polling model.
Now Gallup tries to inject some momentum in the race by attempting to relate the willingness to talk to pollsters as momentum for one side. As long as the willingness to talk to pollsters is directly tied to willingness to get out and vote, this is could measure any momentum for Obama. But given the fact Palin attracts the same or bigger crowds, even on national TV, I seriously doubt Obama has the edge in momentum anymore. Sarah Palin was a risky gamble, but she may well prove decisive. If you look the Gallup Numbers related to ‘intensity’, Obama jumps back to a +6% lead.
I think there are some really strange things going on with the polls.
Terrye on October 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM
McCain has a solid case to make against Obama.
However, he doesn’t have the debate/salesmanship chops to make it stick.
Thune on October 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Grue, you said it for me.
johnnyU on October 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I was thinking chloroform, but ether will do nicely, too.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Dude, when the ACORN thing hits, its a gamechanger.
But McCain is going to have to have the guts to hit them with this.
Let’s be honest, its gotta be alot closer than the MSM says, otherwise the Dems wouldn’t be working so hard on Voter Fraud to steal the election.
Iblis on October 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
So McCain removed his negative ads about Obama from his website and has ordered all TV and radio to cease & desist?
Really? Got a link to this news or press release to that effect that backs up your claim that McCain pulled the plug?
I’ll be waiting here for your response.
wise_man on October 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Chili & beer based methane…
CC
CapedConservative on October 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
In other words … we won’t win again, regardless of how many votes we get.
darwin on October 13, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Sure we will but it will depend on the south. I’m a full-blown Minnesota yankee myself, and I can point proudly to the 1st Minnesota regiment sacrificing itself at Gettysburg, but those type of men seem to be long gone.
We up here are on the verge of perhaps electing Al Goddam Franken, of all people, to the senate, that shows you just how far the north has regressed. A reconquering of the Congress won’t come from the northern states but I have trust that the south won’t be so easily swayed by an Odummy adminstration.
Bishop on October 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Maybe my granchild will be able to buy a business, he says? Well, great and then because of my policies, he will be taxed out of business.
Connie on October 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
You know what we need right now? An ad from Iraqis saying THANK YOU George Bush to the US.
Just a thought.
On the other hand we should send Obama’s ad complaining about the Iraqi surplus and why aren’t we getting that money to the Iraqis…
Skywise on October 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Who do they poll? Maybe this video will scare them.(yes,I know I’ve already posted it)
Welcome to SOCIALISM!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x72626_wealth_news
christene on October 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Chili & beer based methane…
CC
CapedConservative on October 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I thought more along the lines of cyanide.
Bishop on October 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? I’m beginning to consider most of our uh, citizens are fools. VOTE McCain! At least we’ll get a few more years of freedom.
marklmail on October 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Damn Ace is right about this site, sheesh nothing but news to keep us away from the booth on the 4th.
I think I will hang out there until the election is over so I can read about things that will at the least keep me in this fight.
Its the beginning of the friggin 4th quarter and HotAir is pretending like there is 30 seconds left and we are down 2 touchdowns.
broker1 on October 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Hey, I’ve got a great idea. Why not freak out over every little shake and shudder of every little poll?
I don’t know about anybody else, but if they made a positive statement about McCain, I’d be trying to figure out how Bush was running again.
We should run around like chickens with their heads cut off? I just remember the polls in ‘04, and I’m skeptical that these guys have gotten any better at it since then. Is it okay to be skeptical?
I’d answer that, but he’s my friend.
Sounds like you’re taking out your frustrations on people who can’t see things your way even though you’re so much smarter than them. If you’re really this angry that we won’t give up just because you think we should, maybe you should take the afternoon off, go see a matinee. I’m being totally serious. Campaign fatigue, man.
Jim Treacher on October 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
The Washington (com)Post and their illegitimate child, MSNBC, have only one purpose in life and that is to publish as many negatives on McCain as is humanly possible. Those two fabricating rags are among the worst of the left wing propaganda machines and truth has no bearing on their published garbage.
rplat on October 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Well… Comrades Bush and Cox are already heading up the Socialized Economic Collective (SEC!).
As to Halloween? I’m thinking about getting the Girlfreind, put on business suits… Punch out a Fannie May and Freddie Mac nametag, get a BIG Bag full of candy marked US Tax Dollars, and GIVE AWAY the goodies instead of taking them..
Romeo13 on October 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Which makes absolutely no sense. But it’s true. Oy.
jgapinoy on October 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Wasn’t that McCain’s message at that rally on Friday. Well done.
CanadianGuy on October 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM
It now appears that McCain is friends with Acorn. Don’t look at me. Look at Ed and AP’s boss.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/13/sigh-mccain-and-his-friends-atacorn/
I don’t recall a candidate who has done so much to shoot himself in the foot, actually both feet.
This Acorn situation is foundational. You know Obama will not remedy it. I was hoping McCain could fuel concerns about the character and integriy of rock-bed institutions, but he can’t effectively attack this group. I’m fed up with him.
BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I mean, a bad economy ought to mean “reject the socialist!”
jgapinoy on October 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
The Gallup poll is 10 among RVs. Among LVs, it’s nearly within the MOE.
rightwingprof on October 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Jim, you know you’re a genius, right?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
First nail in the coffin of the free market.
Link
Personal responsibility is always the first to die.
Nice job, America.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
“February 2006″
The democrats must absolutely love some republicans/conservatives to death. If Obama wins, I hope they can arrange to send a fruit basket to everyone who helped with the cause.
wise_man on October 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
OMG Obama supporters interviewed on Stern. Too stupid.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983
marklmail on October 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Cue Taps.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Skywise on October 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM
_____________________________________________
http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mrbushthankyouforourfreuu7.jpg
: o )
christene on October 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Sorry but I don’t buy it. I’m not trying to be blind or anything but it seriously just does not compute. I was willing to believe that McCain’s supporters were no longer excited and maybe that he was losing but this would just be insane.
Sorry, I simply cannot buy this.
Kronos on October 13, 2008 at 2:11 PM
You’re partly right. Trying to dissect the MSM news to get at some objective truth is nothing new. Moreover, it’s necessary and prudent. Most of the time you can be reasonably sure that something happened, but rarely what.
If there is a positive item about their opposition (us), we know they tried the best they could to not report it/delay reporting it/spin it to look irrelevant. That means accepting facts from the MSM that are in McCain’s favor is more reasonable than the reverse. (If you said not to take every negative about Obama from a right-wing site as gospel, I’d accept your point.)
We need news and polls. Generally speaking, the best we can do on the right is analyze it, but rarely produce it. So we need the MSM, just like a civilized society needs any of its institutions. But needing them, and referring to them, doesn’t diminish their nearly utter corruption. Even in the darkest days of the USSR, people read their Pravda. They learned how to divine the truth from what wasn’t said, or how it was said. So now do we.
JiangxiDad on October 13, 2008 at 2:12 PM
I’m not going to pay my mortgage anymore. Why bother? Dear Leader will absolve me.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:14 PM
D’AAAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:14 PM
The single most significant statement in your entire post, Allah. My gut is telling me that Team Barry is nearing panic mode. They have access to polling data we do not and the numbers have them scared witless. As we get coser and closer to elction day, the polling organizations – at least the reputable ones like Rasmussen – will reflect this fact in their national polling.
Obama is not NEARLY as far ahead in the polls as the Drive By media is desperately trying to make everyone believe. It would not surprise me that, by the time he appears on his half-hour infomercial, he is actually behind in the polls. I suspect that this is the reason his campaign purchased the broadcast time in the first place.
ManlyRash on October 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Remember the old Soviet Union, it didn’t fail as many thought, they just ran out of money.
tarpon on October 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
When did you become mr positive? Man, I don’t wanna be the only gloomy gus.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
So McCain spoke to ACORN, or was he a “community organizer” too?
Though I’m unhappy about this (and it explains why McCain isn’t going after this the way we want him to), it’s not really the equivalent of Obama’s deep ACORN roots, is it?
capitalist piglet on October 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Here’s an explanation for ya: “You think Obama’s scary because he’s black?! You’re racist!”
forest on October 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM
I never understood how McCain got to be our candidate. I know I didn’t vote for him.
ballz2wallz on October 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM
open primaries. poor strategy by guiliani.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
These truly are Orwellian times we live in if Barack Hussein Obama (Socialist – Illinois) is considered to be the safer choice over John “reach across the aisle” McCain.
Hilts on October 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
rplat on October 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
The vast majority of official Republicans these days are apparently not conservatives. Both parties have drifted to the left… the Dems nearly off the deep end, and the Reps into the middle.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
No, he’s not as bad as Obama on this issue, but it’s another issue that is off the table because the Republicans have McCain as a candidate. The idea that Rev. Wright’s not in attack ads at this moment is insane.
CanadianGuy on October 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Don’t blame me. I voted for Kodos.
CanadianGuy on October 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
I’m growing slightly less gloomy. I live in Maine 2nd and during the football games there were quite a few Obama ads. This district can give one electoral vote to the winner of the district even if the statewide vote goes for the other candidate. This is a district Kerry won with 53% of the vote in a state he carried by 9%. Obama shouldn’t need to spend that kind of money here for the chance at one electoral vote.
We also have a Democrat congressman, but one who is pro-life and pro-gun rights. While I’m still pessimistic about McCain’s chances, my gut tells me Obama has yet to win the trust of the bitter-clingers that make up this rural district.
Palin’s going to be here Thursday. So the media’s insistence that McCain has given up on deep blue parts of the country is simply not true.
Slublog on October 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
The media run these polls for the same reason politicians do: do see how well their campaigns are doing – and to demonstrate that to others.
The last two weeks, the media have been harping on the “McCain is a maniac” meme, so they run this poll tailor-made to check how well they’ve gotten that message accross. And a lot of people just reflect what they’ve heard without thinking about it.
The good news is that, as it gets closer to election day, people DO think about who they’re going to vote for. Push-polls like this one aren’t designed to reflect what that real decision will be; they’re only designed to help influence it.
logis on October 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
I did not vote for him. I wanted to vote for Rudy but he dropped out before the NY primaries. McCain got it because the GOP primary voter (one of the stupidest creatures out there) is wedded to the concept of a “next-in-line” primogeniture. That is why we wind up with boobs such as George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush and now McCain. I 2012 they will foist RINO Jeb Bush on us.
Hilts on October 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM
The other AP :)
JiangxiDad on October 13, 2008 at 2:23 PM
No. It’s not. No where near.
wise_man on October 13, 2008 at 2:23 PM
No.
*thinks*
Yup, still a “No.”
Well, if the MSM sticks to their pattern, it’ll turn out that McCain once had a corn on his toe.
Jim Treacher on October 13, 2008 at 2:23 PM
“No. It’s not. No where near.”
Of course, not, but some people just can’t miss a chance to bash McCain. They’re the unhinged right.
rightwingprof on October 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Obama effectively and fully uses Acorn to change the social face of America and as a platform for personal political power.
McCain’s aim is ?
JiangxiDad on October 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I really don’t understand why the same small group of people who allege that they are conservative have to continually post how much the hate McCain in every d*mn thread.
Just admit you want Obama to win and shut up.
Blake on October 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Hell no… revolt and raise up someone reasonable. Palin’s at the top of the list right now but there’s several others, wherever that list wandered off to.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
ManlyRash on October 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM
You ahole, I was basing my bunker-budget on your dire and gloomy broadcasts of the future, now you’re saying that Obapo is going to lose this thing?
What in the hell am I going to do with 1,000 pounds of freeze-dried soy meal and a state of the art chemical toilet?
Bishop on October 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Believe none of the polls.
Oink on October 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Really? McCain is going to Maine? That’s kinda interesting. Guess he thinks that possible EV is doable and necessary.
To be honest, I’m still totally frosted by Ace yesterday giving into the “republicans are racists and need to tone down their rhetoric” bullcrap from yesterday. I was doin’ okay before that. I think Ayers, etal was having poll effects (contrary to my belief of what would happen). Now that cons and McCain have caved to the idea that “criticism of obama = racism” bullcrap, I’m more gloomy than ever.
Anyways. I’ll watch the debate on Weds. If McCain goes nuclear on Obama, then that $160 million in 2 weeks could pan out. Otherwise, welcome our new socialist overlords.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Or perhaps they are not as confident that all their imaginary friends will get their ballots validated.
Spirit of 1776 on October 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Obama “safer”? Safer? Bwahahaha! WaPo pollsters have jumped the shark.
petefrt on October 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I should not bash McCain but I would love to bash him for his (quoting Krauthammer) “personal rectitude” of not bringing Wright into the campaign debate.
Hilts on October 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
A really elaborate, really messy practical joke?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Also.
Did you see someone’s idea the other day? You should prepare to make that “mission accomplished” banner with the MSM in front of it.
Cuz they are the 12th man for Obama here. Without their cover fire, Obama would be toast.
lorien1973 on October 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM
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