Video: Voters testify before Ohio elections board that ACORN registered them multiple times
posted at 2:35 pm on October 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The star witness: Freddie Johnson, whom Michelle wrote about on Friday. The Cleveland Plain Dealer picks up the story:
Cuyahoga board of elections members learned recently that many ACORN canvassers had quotas and often had to scramble to meet them. Board employees had flagged a number of registration cards handed in by ACORN that showed the same names, but with different addresses or birth dates.
After testifying, both men were led to a private office and were interviewed by Cuyahoga County sheriff’s deputies. The board decided during its meeting that it would turn over the ACORN investigation to the sheriff and county prosecutor’s office.
A sheriff’s deputy said neither Johnson nor Barkley have been charged with a crime, but could be used as witnesses later.
Coincidentally, Ace hears through the grapevine that ACORN could be looking at RICO charges in Ohio as early as tomorrow. A campaign coup for McCain to coincide with The One fine-tuning the language about ACORN on his anti-smears site?
Perhaps. But, says the boss, not as much as it might have been.
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I thought it was the republicans who cheated in Ohio?
Tommy_G on October 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM
If this election is at all close, considering the liberals always assume that if the right wins it was by cheating, this could make the 2000 debacle look like a tea party.
MadisonConservative on October 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
And McCain’s just as bad!!! HURRR~!!!
wise_man on October 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
This is a great campaign issue. I wish Barack’s middle name was “ACORN.” Maybe then we would push it.
The Race Card on October 13, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Ok, so when does the ACORN perpwalk parade begin?
Akzed on October 13, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I have a feeling this is racist, and of course trying to highlight Odippy’s relationship with ACORN is racist.
I’m racist for even viewing that vid and so are you people.
In fact, if your dog is in the room while you view the video or read AP’s synopsis, then it is racist too.
Bishop on October 13, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Can we at least stop with the moral equivalence please?
Iblis on October 13, 2008 at 2:39 PM
With McCain, is it two steps forward and one back, or one step forward and two back?
At this point, it’s our steps because he’s shot himself in the foot (both feet) so many times, Palin is dragging him to November 4.
BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2008 at 2:40 PM
I couldn’t help it! Allah put it on Autoplay!!
/iSarc
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM
For release on November 4, 2008:
‘Good morning. It is now 9:30am Eastern time, and NBC News has just declared Barack Obama the winner of the 2008 Presidential election. As a public service, NBC news asks potential voters who have not yet voted to please stay home, and not vote. The election has already been decided by early voting.’
Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Is that the “thug thizzle” guy?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM
He seems to have been quite willing to use them to advance his shamnesty agenda. Is this one of those conditional integrity things?
a capella on October 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Word on the street is that RICO charges are around the corner in Ohio.
titus_pullo on October 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Could the pre-election atmosphere become so tainted by this mess created by OBambi and ACORN that Bush comes out and suspends the election”
I know it’s a crazy question, but after perusing left wing blogs this morning, they’re already kicking this idea around.
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Hey, its been a week since the FEC complaint about Obamas financing…
Anyone have any comment from the FEC?
Romeo13 on October 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM
This is too sweet. I hate voter fraud and Obama has his fingerprints all over this.
That community organizing line on the resume doesn’t look so good now: ACORN workers who approached him while he was reading on Public Square that he already was registered. But the workers would persist. Hm, willful violation.
Regardless of who wins this election, I hope Acorn is smashed.
Spirit of 1776 on October 13, 2008 at 2:45 PM
O/T,
Happy ThanksGiving Day,America.:)
From your concerned neighbour!:)
canopfor on October 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Eric Shawn interviewed one of these men on FOX this morning.
Disturb the Universe on October 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM
I think that do-nothing Secretary of State out there in Ohio should be doing the perpwalk right behind ACORN officials.
pilamaye on October 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Does this also extend to other states where they have been caught? I don’t know how RICO ties different elements together.
a capella on October 13, 2008 at 2:48 PM
RICO? About time.
MB4 on October 13, 2008 at 2:48 PM
If we had a Congress that wasn’t corrupt, lazy, and worthless, that would have already happened.
m064404 on October 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Good to see you’re in top form.
MadisonConservative on October 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
What was that I heard from the reporter, that it’s not “technically voter fraud” because no one has voted yet?!?! What the hell kind of illogic is that?!?!?!
Fraud is fraud and if you as an individual or as an organization (ACORN) knowingly have people registering to vote more than once (numerous times in manycases) or you are registering dead people, or you are registering people not eligible to vote then YOU ARE COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD…no if’s, and’s, or but’s about it!
Throw them all in jail…NOW!
Liberty or Death on October 13, 2008 at 2:50 PM
You’re getting into martial law territory. I don’t think Bush could do it or for that matter why would he? Except for the express purpose of a do-over vote, which would be unprecedented to say the least. How to determine the fraudulent voters? Do we do an Iraq purple ink deal? The litigation would go on for decades.
This is blood-in-the-streets talk here. Wow.
J.J. Sefton on October 13, 2008 at 2:50 PM
RICO Sauve.
carbon_footprint on October 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Time to go back over Bambi’s early days as an ACORN trainer under Katz. I imagine his spin room is buzzing about now.
a capella on October 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Corrupt.
Wish someone would name names. ;)
Spirit of 1776 on October 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
You’re about a month and a half early …
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Uhm, it’s Columbus Day.
Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2008 at 2:54 PM
The Cleveland Plain Dealer picks up the story:
Lest anyone be misled for even a second that the Plain Dealer isn’t in the tank for Obama, check out their recent “visual editorial” put together by a staff illustrator.
Not to mention this was on a full page on the outside back cover of the Sunday “Forum” section; that is, not on the editorial or op-ed pages.
saint kansas on October 13, 2008 at 2:55 PM
But if all those people that signed multiples registrations get the idea or come to the conclusion that they could be arrested when they vote (for Obama) then maybe they won’t vote at all…
…However, I doubt most would vote anyway.
albill on October 13, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Oh, I know it is. With McCain telling everyone OBambi should not be feared, I just wonder what else could happen to make it more weird or frustrating.
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 2:55 PM
It’s thanksgiving day in Canada. Just saw it on the calendar this morning.
MadisonConservative on October 13, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Not in Canada!
saint kansas on October 13, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Please edit the code so that every time we refresh, the video doesn’t start playing. Thanks.
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM
The government today announced that it is changing its national symbol to the CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government’s political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you’re actually being screwed.
Murphy9 on October 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Did McCain pay ACORN to register voters for him?
Queen0fCups on October 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM
That is not a crazy question. It’s an asinine question, and the fact you encountered it on moonbat websites should have been your first clue.
ManlyRash on October 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Why can’t this group be barred from going near voter registration forms?
Kind of like the states that have to bend over backwards to prove their elections are fair, Acorn should have to bend over backward to prove they should be allowed to handle sensitive voter information.
MayBee on October 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I’m not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV, although I do like watching Perry Mason…
How long will it take to go from ACORN being indicted under the RICO statue to an indictment relating to the the $800,000 hushed up “donation” from the Obama campaign to ACORN?
Conspiracy?
turfmann on October 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I was looking at the Indiana voter ID case yesterday and I noticed that ACORN.org was gone. Today it is back, wonder what they scrubbed.
Here is more on the case.
Link
mad saint jack on October 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Aah, my mistake.
Move along, Nothing to see here…
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Thbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbppppptttttt.
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Yeah, promises were made, weren’t they? Come to think of it, almost everyone running for office promises to go in as a reformer, but past associations usually get in the way.
a capella on October 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
I’m surprised giving thanks to anyone but the government is tolerated in Canada any more.
fourstringfuror on October 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
This crackdown on ACORN is just another example of The Man keepin’ the people down … or something like that.
Tony737 on October 13, 2008 at 3:01 PM
What the fark are they thankful for? A whacko liberal socialist government? A healthcare system that embodies the efficiency of the U.S. postal service, the compassion of the IRS and the customer-friendliness of the Division of Motor Vehicles? Winter 10 months out of the year? Mayonnaise on everything? Ann Murray and Gordon Lightfoot all day, every day?
ManlyRash on October 13, 2008 at 3:03 PM
I could be wrong but I believe that Congress determines the date of presidential/vice presidential election. Therefore it would up to Congress to change the date and it would have to allow for time to make the transition to the new administration on January 20th. Moving the date more than a few weeks would make it next to impossible for the states to certify their votes and the electors have to meet in mid-December to cast their formal vote in the various state capitals. Don’t see much of a chance of a date change being done by Congress. Just have to muddle through, prosecute the ______ out of ACORN, and try to fix the mess before the next election. Exit question: What do you think the chance of that is with Dems controlling the WH and the Congress?
sdd on October 13, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Zippola
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Racist.
wccawa on October 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM
It’s actually thanksgiving day there today. And they are thanking that the conservatives will get in again
ConservativePartyNow on October 13, 2008 at 3:06 PM
ACORN,registered them multiple times!
This must be the work of,the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy
Kabal,in which,only in America,the Left’s version of
their America that is,can you buy,votes!
Since the DNC,has altered the rules,and are fraudulently
buying votes,spook’s and ghosts(Lib troll’s,thats I see
dead people voting!)and every other Tom,Dick,and Harry
that are voting multiple times,
its time to spin zee tables,and I suggest,that a new
voting card get made,picture ID,and a bullit proof,
fraud proof new system,me thinks!!
canopfor on October 13, 2008 at 3:07 PM
So does ACORN then provide people who are going to vote under the multiple names? Or do they do this to skew polls? If id was required to vote all of this would be avoided. And to think that they receive taxpayer dollars to perpetrate this fraud!
I read where ACORN complains that they try, but they don’t have enough staff to catch all the fraudulent registrations. So we are supposed to feel sorry for them, that they can’t catch all the fraud they create. Maybe we should send them more tax dollars!
ctmom on October 13, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Wonder what the liberal witch wanted to talk to the two guys about. Maybe she wanted her cigarettes back?
AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM
WOW!
RICO charges? They are going for ACORNs guts. I wonder if the scope of the charges will include the on going ACORN investigations in other states?
Theworldisnotenough on October 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Yeah, I wish McCain had credibility on this issue, but only Palin has shown me record of a reformer. The longer this election goes, the more I wish Mitt or Rudy had headlined the ticket. Outsider or prosecutor. Oh well.
But I loved the idea coming out of convention of a reform ticket, but no names in the bailout, etc. Not to be off-track, but I really think we need reform on gerrymandering desperately.
Spirit of 1776 on October 13, 2008 at 3:10 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
RICO. YES!
BKennedy on October 13, 2008 at 3:10 PM
All this is is setting the stage for the Dem’s post-election charge of Republican voter suppression.
subbottomfeeder on October 13, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Nope, they just stick some kids in matching T-shirts, hand ‘em clipboards and tell ‘em they get paid $X for each registration they bring back.
Just sign up on the clipboard right under the fake guy above you. You can use the trashcans in Public Square for a desk if you need to. I’ve thought about signing up a few times myself just as a proof-of-concept, but I just know I’ll be the one guy they investigate and they’ll find a way to trash my legitimate registration. Republican tries to register twice: then you’d see ACORN in the headlines.
saint kansas on October 13, 2008 at 3:12 PM
No damn wonder the Democrat Ohio official refused to allow observers at the polls. The gig would be up.
She won’t get a bonus out of the fraud like Raines and Johnson did, hiding the failure of affirmative-action lending, but fraud is fraud.
What are we coming to?
Will a tied election be settled by whose Freikorps is better armed and more ruthless?
Harry Schell on October 13, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Huh? Not that I’ve ever heard, besides why would McCain want help from ACORN since ACORN has already endorsed “THE ONE” (despite in news interviews ACORN touting they are bi-partisan)that and ACORN would probably just throw away any voter registrations they suspect would vote for McCain, e.g., any voter registration that the registrant declared themselves as a Republican!
Liberty or Death on October 13, 2008 at 3:15 PM
A quick way to do this is to rule all registrations filed through ACORN or any of its subsidiaries invalid. States could then allow one week for any person who was registered by ACORN to re-register at a legitimate registration site. Close all registration after one week…followed by massive lawsuits from the ACLU claiming discrimination and disenfranchisement by the ultra-right wing conspiracy trying to steal the election for the One.
sdd on October 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Mind your tongue when addressing a Wisconsinite.
MadisonConservative on October 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM
It’s important for us conservatives to focus on this, but the truth is that Ohio probably isn’t going to matter in this election. Obama probably will win by over 320 electoral votes, in which case Ohio is irrelevant.
But if Ohio IS the lynch pin of the election, pay careful attention to what I call the “margin of fraud.” In 2004, Ohio went for Bush by 110,000 votes. The Dems cried foul because of (alleged) irregularities or discrepancies that may have affected 10,000 votes. Even assuming, contrafactually, that the Democrats stole no votes and the Republicans stole 10x that number of votes, the alleged “fraud” would not have affected the outcome.
In this election, I’d say the “margin of fraud” is probably going to be 30,000 to 40,000 votes. If this election DOES hinge on Ohio and the race is within that margin, I’d cry foul were I McCain. I hope his Ohio legal team is ready to rock & roll.
Outlander on October 13, 2008 at 3:17 PM
November 4th? NBC has called the election already!
Oink on October 13, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Your a month and half early….
Grue in the Attic on Oct 13,2008 at 2:53PM.
Grue in the Attic: Sh#t,now that I feel like an idiot,
let me say, my heart was in the right
place!
Okay,me make mistakey,its a month and
half to go,Ugh!!:)
I will now flog myself!!
canopfor on October 13, 2008 at 3:18 PM
It is very simple. You make people provide picture identification and proof of citizenship at the voting booth. As soon as you require that the big majority of the fraud goes away.
Hawthorne on October 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM
For the most part most of this doesn’t matter aslong as all the BS in the voter logs are still there. If they don’t clean them out every so many years then all the old illegal registered voters will still be on the rolls.
Rbastid on October 13, 2008 at 3:23 PM
That’s Wisconsinese for “Don’t French kiss a metal flagpole in Green Bay in January.”
ManlyRash on October 13, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I had breakfast with my Dem Dad and step mom. Neither had heard ANYTHING about all the ACORN fraud. My Dad seemed very concerned.
McCain HAS to get the word out!
gmoonster on October 13, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Who is Ace? I tried to find anyone else in the entire universe who backs up that story and everyone links to Ace of Spades. The other night someone promised that Obama was going to be indited in on the basis of Rezko testimony. Still waiting…
I hope this is a correct grapevine rumour but… I’m not counting chickens and if it can’t be proven that Obama knew and sanctioned it it probably isn’t going to effect anything.
Also, clearly the judges in Ohio are in the bag for Obama as well.
petunia on October 13, 2008 at 3:30 PM
MadisonConservative on October 13, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Our dog’s name is RICO. He is an 8lb holy terror minpin. I think I should unleash the hounds of hell on those rat bastards in Ohio.
Shackle them all up, including Bruner
Kevin in Washington State on October 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM
I really need to watch the video first. I sent this in thinking Allah didnt know this story
William Amos on October 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Lately on late-night talk radio,the caller moonbats,
are floating this conspiracy theory that,sumpin bad
might happen!
So,the Liberals are already lining up the excuses,so
if the Democrats fraud voting goes south,and they lose,
they think,President Bush will suspend the elections!
They have every excuse covered!!
canopfor on October 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
I know I have talked to members of my family and very few have heard anything negative about Obama at all.
If everyone in America has heard all the dirt on Obama and still vote for him well, that is that. But when the truth is being suppressed and Obama is so popular on the basis of incomplete information that is just wrong. So wrong and there doesn’t seem to be anyway around the failure of the media to investigate him.
petunia on October 13, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Vote early, vote often: don’t forget to add multiple registrations to Ohio’s early voting, giving you weeks to get all your votes in. And check out this “expert analysis” from the Plain Dealer’s Washington bureau:
See, it’s harder for blacks to get to the polls; they can’t be expected to vote on Election Day.
RAAAAAAACIST!
saint kansas on October 13, 2008 at 3:34 PM
PURPLE INK !!
Once and for all.
sigh
pambi on October 13, 2008 at 3:37 PM
If that is true they have no business doing what they do. They are not doing a public service if they allow fraud no matter the excuse. Either get the fraud out or stop running your business.
This is all planned a calculated. It effects the race already because it inflates the democrats numbers and changes the weighting of parties in calculating the poll numbers. Then it creates false momentum, which in turn increases the likelyhood of band wagon voting for Obama. This is evil and calculated.
petunia on October 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM
ACORN, the new tip of the Cloward-Piven spear
In 1970, one of George Wiley’s protégés, Wade Rathke — like Bill Ayers, a member of the radical Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) — was sent to found the Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now. While NWRO had made a good start, it alone couldn’t accomplish the Cloward-Piven goals. Rathke’s group broadened the offensive to include a wide array of low income “rights.” Shortly thereafter they changed “Arkansas” to “Association of” and ACORN went nationwide.
Today ACORN is involved in a wide array of activities, including housing, voting rights, illegal immigration and other issues. According to ACORN’s website: “ACORN is the nation’s largest grassroots community organization of low-and moderate-income people with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in 110 cities across the country,” It is perhaps the largest radical group in the U.S. and has been cited for widespread criminal activity on many fronts.
Kevin in Washington State on October 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM
I give up. McCain is without controversy the least likable Republican presidential candidate in my lifetime. It’s impossible to support him without reservation.
Amnesty, cap and trade, crippling of political speech, and now we see he’s buddied up to ACORN in the past…
spmat on October 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM
McCain is an ‘outsider’ here, while Obama is the ‘insider’ here. Insider Trading = jail time.
Kevin in Washington State on October 13, 2008 at 3:53 PM
They act like this is a new thing. ACORN has been doing this forever, and getting caught; they were caught here in Washington state, the year “Chris” Gregoire magically produced enough votes to “defeat” Dino Rossi after multiple recounts.
This is just what they do, then they tell the authorities it’s an aberration, that it’s some rogue employee doing it, unbeknownst to the organization – but there’s nothing accidental about it.
capitalist piglet on October 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Don’t blow it out of proportion.
capitalist piglet on October 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Those four Republicans they registered must have been the fraudlent ones after all everyone is for the Messiah just like it is the Repubs fault that Fannie and Freddie are takin the financial markets down the drain.
What say you Mccain?
dhunter on October 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM
LOL!
AZCoyote on October 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Actually, if McCain didn’t have his own connections to ACORN we’d probably be able to push this harder.
And to be fair, it was McCain who didn’t want Obama’s middle name used, and it’s McCain who’s not making a bigger deal out of this. Plenty of conservatives are, just not him.
Esthier on October 13, 2008 at 4:03 PM
In view of the problems in several states with ACORN registrations, the obvious solution is to void ALL ACORN registrations in every state, and put them out of business. There are other venues to use for voter registration, that are far more credible.
GFW on October 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM
WORD
Acorn
RICO
HornetSting on October 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
The video is possessed. How do you get it to stop?
HornetSting on October 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Add my LOL! to that post as well! HotAir people have such a way with words! LOL! again.
freeus on October 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Survival.
That’s what the holiday is all about.
For the record, I didn’t know Canada had a Thanksgiving Day. Happy Thanksgiving, Canadians!
Esthier on October 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
For release on November 4, 2008:
‘Good morning. It is now 9:30am Eastern time, and NBC News has just declared Barack Obama the winner of the 2008 Presidential election. As a public service, NBC news asks potential voters who have not yet voted to please stay home, and not vote. The election has already been decided by early voting.’
Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Starlink on October 13, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Yep, and as the article linked by Kevin in Washington said (he beat me to it) ACORN has been doing this for some time.
I also posted this earlier as an answer to the following Queen0fCups post:
Below is an excerpt from the article (Cloward and Priven Strategy) Kevin of Washington posted that I believe bolsters my claim that McCain wouldn’t pay ACORN to register voters for him, that in fact ACORN would probably destroy any voter registrations from registrants that declare they are Republican! Take a minute to read the entire article, it’s worth it:
A note to the lefty in-the-tank-for-Obama media: Voter fraud is voter fraud regardless if anyone does or does not vote using fraudulent registrations!
Liberty or Death on October 13, 2008 at 4:47 PM
ACORN doesn’t matter if McCain isn’t willing to connect the dots.
moxie_neanderthal on October 13, 2008 at 4:56 PM
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