In how many jurisdictions can one vote either by mail or in person without having to show ID? Because, as we have all been instructed, having to show ID is, well, racist.

Explain to me how ACORN’s supposedly planning to convert these bogus registrations into actual bogus votes on a mass scale.

In how many jurisdictions can one vote either by mail or in person? How many hundreds of thousands of members does Acorn have? If they can hire canvassers, couldn’t they hire voters as well?

By way of Drudge, we have our first confirmed case of fraudulent voting:

Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.

The vote of Darnell Nash, one of four people subpoenaed in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN’s voter-registration activities, was canceled and his case was turned over to local prosecutors and law enforcement, Board of Elections officials said yesterday.

It seems to me based on the reports from Lake County, Indiana (indicating that the first two thousand registrations ACORN turned in were all invalid), suggest that if ACORN was contracted on deliverables, they are in breach of contract. If O!’s campaign does not ask for at least a partial refund, then one wonders if the real deliverable was something other than “good registrations,” ie: was ACORN hired to create chaos?

In fact, ACORN generally categorizes the forms they receive as “good”, “incomplete”, and “questionable”, and turns them in in separate bundles with cover sheets indicating that. Most of the ones they are being accused of fraud on are ones they themselves categorized as “questionable”.

Every parent knows the difficulty in determining a fair distribution of a limited supply of candy, ice cream, cakes, and other assorted treats. Wise parents generally allow one child to cut the cake and the other to choose which of……

Explain to me how ACORN’s supposedly planning to convert these bogus registrations into actual bogus votes on a mass scale.

Ohio is changing up their voting machines in key districts. Geeze, I don’t know how would someone steal an election? No transparency maybe? Brunner won’t let anyone see who is accepted on the Ohio Voter Rolls Database. Why can’t there be transparency?

Look if Obama is such a strong Candidate like the CNN propaganda machine would leave you to believe. Why would the Playing Field need rigging? CNN and NBC, MSNBC know Obama is a paper tiger. CNN is blaming the Financial Meltdown on Phil Graham come on, give me a break who do they think they are fooling? CNN what color is the sky in your WORLD. This is why I don’t watch CNN or NBC or MSNBC. They are Lame, who do they think they are fooling only their very Liberal demographic. That isn’t who Obama needs to Win. Lou Dobbs is the only one left on CNN with any amount of credibility.

I heard Bill Maher say, on Imus in the Morning, this Morning. He said, he thinks it takes a economic crisis like the one we have, for Americans to do the “Right” thing, and elect a Black Man. First off I don’t vote Based on Race for the Leader of the Free World How is that RIGHT? And Second Barack Obama is bi racial, he isn’t Black. That is how twisted Liberals see Race. Bill Maher – Got White Guilt Much?

Serious exit question: How, precisely, do people think ACORN’s going to influence the election?

Are you kidding? In the 2000 election, thousands of votes in Cook County were again thrown, leading to speculation that hundreds of thousands of votes cast were fraudulent. It’s a one-party state, run by Democrat crooks.

How, precisely, do you fanatasize that massive Democrat vote fraud doesn’t exist, since it’s found everywhere it is looked for?

As the ‘activist organizations’ flood the system close to or at the deadline for registration, they swamp the internal controls to verify applications. Those then get put on the rolls as voters. Someone shows up with some form of ID that will pass muster and votes.

As mentioned many of the voter rolls are out and names crossed off as people show up. If you have a database of individuals you have registered or a block of addresses from which phony voters applications were put in, you can then have either a real voter or an ‘observer’ contact someone on the outside to then do a database look-up. If there is not a strict accounting of the actual photo ID, such as taking the driver’s license number or other identifier off of the ID, then you can have someone show up with an ID that looks valid. The cost of cardstock and laminating equipment is low in such a large operation and we have already seen fake ‘press passes’ derived from original source ones via this methodology.

This allows a small number of individuals to then do this Chicago phenomenon of ‘vote early, vote often’.

By the time the actual verification gets to an individual on the rolls, it may be weeks or months after the election, with the latter more likely due to the approaching holiday season.

This could be negated by a requirment for a valid State ID, such as driver’s license or other ID in which the polling station has a read-out for that block of individuals who live in that district. Enter the number, get the name, hand verify the name on the paper rolls, initial and time stamp it. But then you get ‘civil libertarians’ crying about how such databases can be abused, and that cross-checking is, somehow, a nefarious activity. And yet the public’s need for clean elections should have massive criminal penalties in place when such databases are compromised to undermine local democracy…. unfortunately that is not the case.

Thus criminal activity gets a slap on the wrist, civil libertarians decry cross-checking databases, organizations push in a mass of late registrations that can’t be checked and small numbers of individuals ‘vote early, vote often’ because they do not show up at the same polling places but drive from place to place. “Small” being anywhere from a handful to a few tens of people… and if the election doesn’t come out as wanted, then those individuals are sacrificed to call the election into question and claim it was ’stolen’. How many individuals in a given area would it take to convince *you* that this would represent a larger number doing this activity? Two? Three? Ten? Twenty State-wide? Fifty? And just how will you be able to discriminate between just a few individuals doing this and a larger push of which these would be a ‘representative sample’?

There is also, of course, taking a large number of blank ballots, and filling them in and crossing the names off of the rolls after the election, but that ham-handed way usually shows up due to the block of ballots involved. That is if you have a paper-trail ballot.

Really, one can be inventive with this to get to a desired result… which is undermining representative democracy.

Explain to me how ACORN’s supposedly planning to convert these bogus registrations into actual bogus votes on a mass scale.

It’s called community organizing.

What makes you think that only the national election is at risk? A few hundred phony votes could determine who controls a city, and it’s local control that ultimately gives parties their national clout.

But so far as the national election is concerned, once the ‘voter’ is created by a fradulent registration, his vote can be exercised by absentee ballot, by a ‘ringer’ showing up at the polls or by corrupt election officials simply certifying that he voted.