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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-plan-tax-cuts-or-demogrants/comment-page-1/#comment-1551717</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-plan-tax-cuts-or-demogrants/comment-page-1/#comment-1551692</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;JiangxiDad on October 22, 2008 at 9:00 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh no, I wasn&#039;t accusing you of plagiarism at all....I&#039;ve certainly said such a thing in the past, but so have you and a few others. I was just glad to see you raise the issue :)

I&#039;d go even further, in fact....make all &#039;taxes&#039; voluntary. If you choose to participate in a standardized gubmint revenue-generation scheme (flat 10% or whatever), then yuo get to vote - if you buy in, you get a say in how your money is spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>JiangxiDad on October 22, 2008 at 9:00 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh no, I wasn&#8217;t accusing you of plagiarism at all&#8230;.I&#8217;ve certainly said such a thing in the past, but so have you and a few others. I was just glad to see you raise the issue :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d go even further, in fact&#8230;.make all &#8216;taxes&#8217; voluntary. If you choose to participate in a standardized gubmint revenue-generation scheme (flat 10% or whatever), then yuo get to vote &#8211; if you buy in, you get a say in how your money is spent.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Spread the wealth around&#8221; &#171; What&#8217;s Arugula</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Spread the wealth around&#8221; &#171; What&#8217;s Arugula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] prefers to call it &#8220;refundables.&#8221; Even though you&#8217;re not being &#8220;refunded&#8221; anything, you&#8217;re just being sent a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Public Secrets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public Secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;For once he&#039;s being honest...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Obama campaign has tried to deny that their tax plan is really a disguise for massive wealth redistribution, with the IRS taking phenomenal amounts from those who do pay taxes and giving it as welfare tax credits to those......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>For once he&#8217;s being honest&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Obama campaign has tried to deny that their tax plan is really a disguise for massive wealth redistribution, with the IRS taking phenomenal amounts from those who do pay taxes and giving it as welfare tax credits to those&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reverse_Vampyr » Obama: Marxism is good for all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverse_Vampyr » Obama: Marxism is good for all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama: Marxism is &quot;good for everybody&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

My main issue with Barack Obama doesn&#039;t get any clearer than this. He wants to confiscate more from those that are productive and give more to those who are not. It&#039;s a page right out of the Karl Marx playbook: From each according to his ability, to ...</description>
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<p>My main issue with Barack Obama doesn&#8217;t get any clearer than this. He wants to confiscate more from those that are productive and give more to those who are not. It&#8217;s a page right out of the Karl Marx playbook: From each according to his ability, to &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AMERICA Comands You To Stand Up And Fight McCain. Will the real McNasty please stand? &#171; Mcnorman&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMERICA Comands You To Stand Up And Fight McCain. Will the real McNasty please stand? &#171; Mcnorman&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] well, a government handout. It&#8217;s a welfare check.  Gimme! Not so.  Obama prefers to call it &#8220;refundables.&#8221; Even though you&#8217;re not being &#8220;refunded&#8221; anything, you&#8217;re just being sent a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] well, a government handout. It&#8217;s a welfare check.  Gimme! Not so.  Obama prefers to call it &#8220;refundables.&#8221; Even though you&#8217;re not being &#8220;refunded&#8221; anything, you&#8217;re just being sent a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Rainmaker &#187; The Audacity of Socialism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Rainmaker &#187; The Audacity of Socialism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed points out, &#8220;Six of the seven listed in the Obama plan are these “refundables”, money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Those Obama &#8220;tax cuts&#8221; explained &#171; The Daley Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Those Obama &#8220;tax cuts&#8221; explained &#171; The Daley Gator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what he means by &#8220;tax cuts&#8221;. Not really tax relief but, well, more, how can I put this, Marxism! Six of the seven listed in the Obama plan are these “refundables”, money people get from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what he means by &#8220;tax cuts&#8221;. Not really tax relief but, well, more, how can I put this, Marxism! Six of the seven listed in the Obama plan are these “refundables”, money people get from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On the Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-plan-tax-cuts-or-demogrants/comment-page-1/#comment-1523595</link>
		<dc:creator>On the Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Taking Your Success And Giving It Away...&lt;/strong&gt;

Video: Obama&#8217;s redistributionism
Fox and Friends featured this exchange between Barack Obama and a
plumber on the campaign trail this weekend. Want to hear a
redistributionist explain his policy?

Plumber to Obama: &#8220;Your new tax......</description>
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<p>Video: Obama&#8217;s redistributionism<br />
Fox and Friends featured this exchange between Barack Obama and a<br />
plumber on the campaign trail this weekend. Want to hear a<br />
redistributionist explain his policy?</p>
<p>Plumber to Obama: &#8220;Your new tax&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Obama&#8217;s redistributionism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Obama&#8217;s redistributionism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really doesn&#8217;t get any clearer than this, although a close look at Obama&#8217;s tax policy makes it almost as obvious. He doesn&#8217;t want to penalize your success! He just wants to take a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really doesn&#8217;t get any clearer than this, although a close look at Obama&#8217;s tax policy makes it almost as obvious. He doesn&#8217;t want to penalize your success! He just wants to take a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spread The Wealth Around &#171; The Reluctant Optimist</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-plan-tax-cuts-or-demogrants/comment-page-1/#comment-1523255</link>
		<dc:creator>Spread The Wealth Around &#171; The Reluctant Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Okay, here&#8217;s some. One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Okay, here&#8217;s some. One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama:  &quot;Spread the Wealth Around&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Economic justice,&quot; I think they call it in the radical consciousness-raising schools he funded. How does he intend to spread the wealth? By increasing the size of federal programs? Well, that&#039;s a start. But I&#039;m afraid he&#039;s going to spread......</description>
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<p>&#8220;Economic justice,&#8221; I think they call it in the radical consciousness-raising schools he funded. How does he intend to spread the wealth? By increasing the size of federal programs? Well, that&#8217;s a start. But I&#8217;m afraid he&#8217;s going to spread&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Same old Change? &#124; Delusions of Grandeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Same old Change? &#124; Delusions of Grandeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MSM (main stream media) and Others are finally taking note. So yes, while he would &#8220;cut&#8221; taxes, the truth is that just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 29Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>29Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless the USSR.

By Obama&#039;s reckoning, they had almost no taxes whatsoever.

He can go on to define freedom of speech as allowing us to write in to the government newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless the USSR.</p>
<p>By Obama&#8217;s reckoning, they had almost no taxes whatsoever.</p>
<p>He can go on to define freedom of speech as allowing us to write in to the government newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: hillbillyjim</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/13/obama-plan-tax-cuts-or-demogrants/comment-page-1/#comment-1522134</link>
		<dc:creator>hillbillyjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Rather than go to all of the aggravation involved with Obama’s proposal, why not just get to the bottom line quickly by sending China a check?

hillbillyjim on October 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, I forgot about the Constitutional right to a big-screen TV for all &quot;under-served&quot; individuals.</description>
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<p>Rather than go to all of the aggravation involved with Obama’s proposal, why not just get to the bottom line quickly by sending China a check?</p>
<p>hillbillyjim on October 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM
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<p>Of course, I forgot about the Constitutional right to a big-screen TV for all &#8220;under-served&#8221; individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: hillbillyjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>hillbillyjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than go to all of the aggravation involved with Obama&#039;s proposal, why not just get to the bottom line quickly by sending China a check?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than go to all of the aggravation involved with Obama&#8217;s proposal, why not just get to the bottom line quickly by sending China a check?</p>
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		<title>By: On the Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>On the Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama’s “Tax Cuts” Explained...&lt;/strong&gt;

Obama plan: tax cuts or Demogrants?

Given Barack Obama&#8217;s relentless populism this cycle, the Wall Street Journal analysis
of his tax cuts should surprise no one.  They find that Obama relies
less on actual cuts in tax rates and more in......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama’s “Tax Cuts” Explained&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Obama plan: tax cuts or Demogrants?</p>
<p>Given Barack Obama&#8217;s relentless populism this cycle, the Wall Street Journal analysis<br />
of his tax cuts should surprise no one.  They find that Obama relies<br />
less on actual cuts in tax rates and more in&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DFCtomm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DFCtomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a nice argument Ed, and the correct one, of course. &lt;strong&gt;But the problem with it is that such a scheme can work in the short and intermediate term&lt;/strong&gt;. The political and economic policies that have destroyed so many American cities, (and as you suggest now threaten whole states and even the US) took decades to achieve their aims. Only now do those places no longer have any revenue to re-distribute. I’m afraid that in a perverse way, the horrors you describe are seen by many others as sublime. They don’t care that in the long run, it brings ruin. Looting and ruin is the aim. Barack’s words are winners.

JiangxiDad on October 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


We are well past the &quot;short&quot; and close to the end of the &quot;intermediate&quot; terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s a nice argument Ed, and the correct one, of course. <strong>But the problem with it is that such a scheme can work in the short and intermediate term</strong>. The political and economic policies that have destroyed so many American cities, (and as you suggest now threaten whole states and even the US) took decades to achieve their aims. Only now do those places no longer have any revenue to re-distribute. I’m afraid that in a perverse way, the horrors you describe are seen by many others as sublime. They don’t care that in the long run, it brings ruin. Looting and ruin is the aim. Barack’s words are winners.</p>
<p>JiangxiDad on October 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>We are well past the &#8220;short&#8221; and close to the end of the &#8220;intermediate&#8221; terms.</p>
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		<title>By: The Monster</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To most people, &quot;tax cut&quot; really means &quot;tax &lt;em&gt;rate&lt;/em&gt; cut&quot;; like the Reagan tax cuts which lowered marginal rates.  A tax credit doesn&#039;t touch those rates.  In fact, if the credit is limited based on income, as the EIC is, it can actually &lt;em&gt;raise&lt;/em&gt; the effective marginal rate.  Once the taxpayer earns the maximum EIC, earning additional income reduces it until it reaches zero.

Mix in other programs where eligibility is based on income, and you will find points on the income spectrum where earning an additional dollar results in the person having &lt;em&gt;less&lt;/em&gt;  money to spend after factoring in the taxes and programs.  I once had a single mother who worked for me that told me she didn&#039;t want more than a certain number of hours a week, because it would cause her to be pushed into a higher bracket for her Section 8 housing, Medicaid, etc., and would actually cost her money.

It is as if the marginal tax rate in those income ranges is over 100%.  And that seems awfully regressive to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To most people, &#8220;tax cut&#8221; really means &#8220;tax <em>rate</em> cut&#8221;; like the Reagan tax cuts which lowered marginal rates.  A tax credit doesn&#8217;t touch those rates.  In fact, if the credit is limited based on income, as the EIC is, it can actually <em>raise</em> the effective marginal rate.  Once the taxpayer earns the maximum EIC, earning additional income reduces it until it reaches zero.</p>
<p>Mix in other programs where eligibility is based on income, and you will find points on the income spectrum where earning an additional dollar results in the person having <em>less</em>  money to spend after factoring in the taxes and programs.  I once had a single mother who worked for me that told me she didn&#8217;t want more than a certain number of hours a week, because it would cause her to be pushed into a higher bracket for her Section 8 housing, Medicaid, etc., and would actually cost her money.</p>
<p>It is as if the marginal tax rate in those income ranges is over 100%.  And that seems awfully regressive to me.</p>
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		<title>By: AZCoyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZCoyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama’s unsound theories of wealth redistribution will now get a tailwind from Europe with Krugman’s Nobel prize.

whitetop on October 13, 2008 at 10:11 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With the Nobel &quot;peace&quot; prize having been awarded to people like Arafat and Al Gore, does anyone take the Nobel prizes seriously anymore?  They have become nothing more than a public confirmation that the recipient adheres to the loony Leftist line of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama’s unsound theories of wealth redistribution will now get a tailwind from Europe with Krugman’s Nobel prize.</p>
<p>whitetop on October 13, 2008 at 10:11 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>With the Nobel &#8220;peace&#8221; prize having been awarded to people like Arafat and Al Gore, does anyone take the Nobel prizes seriously anymore?  They have become nothing more than a public confirmation that the recipient adheres to the loony Leftist line of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is that old saying about democracy lasting until people finding out that they can vote themselves someone elses money?
This is only the Roosevelt corallary of that theory.
Promise to give people someone elses money to buy votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is that old saying about democracy lasting until people finding out that they can vote themselves someone elses money?<br />
This is only the Roosevelt corallary of that theory.<br />
Promise to give people someone elses money to buy votes.</p>
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		<title>By: anniekc</title>
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		<dc:creator>anniekc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter WHAT John McCain says in a debate- Obama will respond that he&#039;s a lying racist and the MSM will back him up. The average American can&#039;t underdstand a two minute debate explanation on taxes! They need to see and hear it on the MSM, over and over. If the truth of Obama&#039;s plans, all of them, were fully vetted, the public would be horrified at what they were getting! But alas- this is but a dream that our liberal media might actually play fair and tell the American public the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter WHAT John McCain says in a debate- Obama will respond that he&#8217;s a lying racist and the MSM will back him up. The average American can&#8217;t underdstand a two minute debate explanation on taxes! They need to see and hear it on the MSM, over and over. If the truth of Obama&#8217;s plans, all of them, were fully vetted, the public would be horrified at what they were getting! But alas- this is but a dream that our liberal media might actually play fair and tell the American public the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: thePajamaPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>thePajamaPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since when have Democrats become all about tax cuts? For that matter, since when have they been all about prayer and God and religion?

ballz2wallz on October 13, 2008 at 9:11 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very good questions.  Another: Since when did Republicans become all about government bailouts and increased regulations?

That&#039;s where McCain is right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since when have Democrats become all about tax cuts? For that matter, since when have they been all about prayer and God and religion?</p>
<p>ballz2wallz on October 13, 2008 at 9:11 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Very good questions.  Another: Since when did Republicans become all about government bailouts and increased regulations?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where McCain is right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Polical Bankruptcy - A real fair tax plan for America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polical Bankruptcy - A real fair tax plan for America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A real fair tax plan for America...&lt;/strong&gt;

This plan removes Federal income tax for the benefit of all Americans and makes sure the bills get paid....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A real fair tax plan for America&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This plan removes Federal income tax for the benefit of all Americans and makes sure the bills get paid&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: calguyintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>calguyintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or Texas. Texas is the only state that has a legal right to secede. Of course, then we’d have to worry about “illegals” from the other 49. (Or is it 56? :)

obladioblada on October 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM

That is an urban legend that has been thoroughly debunked.  Secession is not in the Texas Constitution!  However, Texas can divide into 5 states, but good luck on that also.

Anyway, come on down, but leave your liberal minded teenagers in their home state!

There are no moose to hunt, but deer are a major pest in the Hill Country because the only top of the food chain predator is the hunter with a deer license, and we are not giving up our guns, bibles, or tax dollars to the USSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Texas. Texas is the only state that has a legal right to secede. Of course, then we’d have to worry about “illegals” from the other 49. (Or is it 56? :)</p>
<p>obladioblada on October 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM</p>
<p>That is an urban legend that has been thoroughly debunked.  Secession is not in the Texas Constitution!  However, Texas can divide into 5 states, but good luck on that also.</p>
<p>Anyway, come on down, but leave your liberal minded teenagers in their home state!</p>
<p>There are no moose to hunt, but deer are a major pest in the Hill Country because the only top of the food chain predator is the hunter with a deer license, and we are not giving up our guns, bibles, or tax dollars to the USSA.</p>
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