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Maliki to Brits: You can go home now

posted at 11:45 am on October 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told the Times of London that Iraq had no further need for British combat troops in Basra or the southern region of the country.  Maliki said he looked forward to a strong diplomatic partnership with the UK, but did not hide his disdain for British commanders who conceded the South to the Mahdi Army.  Unlike his attempt to formalize a strong military presence with the US, Maliki seems happy to wave good-bye to the British Army:

British combat forces are no longer needed to maintain security in southern Iraq and should leave the country, Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, has told The Times.

In an exclusive interview in Baghdad, Mr al-Maliki also criticised a secret deal made last year by Britain with the al-Mahdi Army, Iraq’s largest Shia militia. He said that Basra had been left at the mercy of militiamen who “cut the throats of women and children” after the British withdrawal from the city.

The Iraqi leader emphasised, however, that the “page had been turned” and he looked forward to a friendly, productive relationship with London. “The Iraqi arena is open for British companies and British friendship, for economic exchange and positive cooperation in science and education.”

Of Britain’s presence in southern Iraq, Mr al-Maliki said: “We thank them for the role they have played, but I think that their stay is not necessary for maintaining security and control. There might be a need for their experience in training and some technological issues, but as a fighting force, I don’t think that is necessary.”

The British also scheduled talks on a status-of-forces agreement, but they haven’t followed through on the discussions.  Maliki expressed some surprise at this, suggesting that the financial crisis may have distracted the Brits.  However, unless Maliki goes back to the UN for an extension of the current mandate — which would be politically disastrous in Iraq — the British will have to leave without a new SoFA.  (So will the American forces, which is why the Bush administration wants a SoFA this year.)

Clearly, Maliki has not forgiven the British for their actions in Basra.  Instead of acting with more assertiveness, the British basically conceded Basra to the Shi’ite militias and let them use the southern region for a massive and deadly turf war.  Stephen Vincent warned about the danger of this policy in 2005, before the militias assassinated him for it.  Maliki makes clear that the Iraqi government did not get consulted on those decisions, which explains his breezy dismissal of the value of British troops there now.

To some extent, that’s unfair.  The British stuck with this mission long after it became a detrimental political issue in Europe and the UK.  They deserve credit for that, even if their command decisions in both Iraq and Afghanistan leave a lot to be desired — and we need to remember that some of ours turned out to be badly mistaken as well.  Fortunately, though, the Iraqi Army has grown strong enough to correct those mistakes, and Maliki is correct to note that these conditions make it possible for the British troops to leave — and they should.


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OBAMA TO MALIKI:

COMMIT TREASON AND WORK WITH ME, NOT BUSH

battleoflepanto1571 on October 13, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Thank Gordon Brown and the pen-pushers for the “deal”. As soon as he was elected he wanted a political win and began pulling troops out prematurely.

lodge on October 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Good call by Maliki.

One must also remember that
a) Iraq was for a time part of the British Empire, so feelings run raw on that score
b) Gordon Brown is simply no Tony Blair (read courageous, charismatic and articulate leader) nor will he ever be.
c, d & e) This blog post fills in these.

HotAirJosef on October 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM

When the Brits sold everybody out by making agreements with the enemy, who can blame him? The Brits willingness to consort with the Mahdi Army wasted more lives than will ever be known. They need to go home and adjust to Sharia Law like most of their politicians.

volsense on October 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM

The British do not deserve respect for it because they didn’t do their damn jobs and instead cowered in their bunkers because they were afraid of offending the terrorist groups duking it out. And then it was revealed they had tacit agreements with those same terrorists groups to both not interfere and provide support in case the big bad Americans came towards them. Frankly the US and Iraqi Armies should’ve just cleaned out the British too while taking care of the Mahdis.

Defector01 on October 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Go back to your own country in turmoil and fight jihad, losers. I am willing to bet that Iraq will resemble a Western democracy far more than UK in ten years.

The UK remains consistent for not stepping up to the plate and Americans lives being lost over their lack of honor during wartime and them as a so-called ally.

Hening on October 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM

So will the American forces, which is why the Bush administration wants a SoFA this year

Like this makes a difference?

We can’t even get South Korea to abide by their half of the SoFA we have with them. Why would Iraq have any reason to do so if we even created one?

Like I said when I stepped foot in that fecal hole of a country for the first time, PARKING LOT!

leetpriest on October 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM

“We thought they were the French until we smelled their cooking!”

AubieJon on October 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM

That is okay, the Brits have plenty of Jihadis to fight at home.

Mr. Joe on October 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Sir Winston is rolling over in his grave. What has happen to the Brits?

tdavisjr on October 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Once I actually thought France would be the first country to lose their sovereignty to the esacalating Muslim population in their country. Now that France has returned to a more conservative government Brown will have the distinction of serving over the transition of putting the Brits under Sharia Law.

volsense on October 13, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Fortunately, though, the Iraqi Army has grown strong enough to correct those mistakes, and Maliki is correct to note that these conditions make it possible for the British troops to leave — and they should.

But apparently after 5 and a half years the Iraqi Army is still not strong enough for U.S. troops to leave or to even get down to pre-surge levels. Great.

MB4 on October 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Sir Winston is rolling over in his grave. What has happen to the Brits?

tdavisjr on October 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I really doubt that Winston Churchill would approve of Islamic Nation Building and Koran kissing.

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
- Winston Churchill

MB4 on October 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM

The Brits have some of the best trained soldiers around, but without a proper strategy or leadership, Iraq became like watching Eddie Griffin behind the wheel of a Ferrari.

BohicaTwentyTwo on October 13, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Iraq will be the crowning achievment of the Bush presidency.

Bank it.

Afghanistan on the other hand, with the anti-war types declaring it the “good” war and promising escalation, may be another Vietnam.

mylegsareswollen on October 13, 2008 at 1:10 PM

It’s not the soldiers and officers fault. The guy some Americans call a brave and courageous ally, Tony Blair is responsible for their dishonor. Blair is the leftard squish that turned Britain into the nascent Islamic toilet it is becoming. Give the credit where it is due, Bush’s poodle.

BL@KBIRD on October 13, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I wish Maliki would issue a similar invitation to U.S. forces. He won’t, because he and his cronies are making too much money stealing from the American taxpayer.

Bugler on October 13, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Afghanistan on the other hand, with the anti-war types declaring it the “good” war and promising escalation, may be another Vietnam.

And it looks like it will be Obama’s lost war. McCain could win it, Obama has the least diplomatic chops since Carter, and that would be a near thing.

billhedrick on October 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM

SBS and SAS are critical to the tactics they are using now combining surveillance and targeted high tech killings. They are not going anywhere.

lexhamfox on October 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM

b) Gordon Brown is simply no Tony Blair (read courageous, charismatic and articulate leader) nor will he ever be.

Blair is an effete, limp-wristed, little girl – he has always found power glamourous and is a galactic-class ass kisser. He followed Clinton and Bush the same because he was awed by the power of their offices.

Courageous? I think not.

Ares on October 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM

I’ve known many British fighters over my career and I can say that the average Tommy is a determined and fierce warrior. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about their leadership. It’s too bad that those leaders were allowed to bring shame and dishonor on the fighting man. Never sell the Brit soldier short.

Big John on October 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Once I actually thought France would be the first country to lose their sovereignty to the esacalating Muslim population in their country. Now that France has returned to a more conservative government Brown will have the distinction of serving over the transition of putting the Brits under Sharia Law.

Sarkozy is not conservative and Brown will be gone soon.

aengus on October 13, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Remember, our policies in Vietnam made us look pretty bad, even though it was not the military’s fault. I have proudly worked with many fine British military personnel, and they are a proud group of warriors, so let’s not throw them under the bus for the decisions their government made. They can put down some serious beer too!

gator70 on October 13, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Actually I fail to see the issue. I’m not overly concerned as to why the British are being dismissed, the fact is they are being told they are no longer needed. This is Great News. The Iraqi government and military taking control of their own country and security. I can’t wait for the day they tell the U.S. “pack your trash and beat it, we got this”. It’s been the objective all along, a democratically elected government that run’s it’s self. Today is a good day for the Iraq effort and another step closer to total victory for the U.S. and subsequent retrograde.

Hog Wild on October 13, 2008 at 5:21 PM

I fully agree with commenters regarding Blair and his narcissism, but Iraq will not be a Democracy in ten years. It will be Islamic.

OldEnglish on October 13, 2008 at 6:23 PM

OldEnglish on October 13, 2008 at 6:23 PM

wow! Hey who’s gonna win this year’s SuperBowl?

billhedrick on October 13, 2008 at 7:03 PM

billhedrick on October 13, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Sport is a game of chance, religion isn’t.

OldEnglish on October 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM

The Brits, a once great nation are now ” executive transvestites “.

bigmike on October 13, 2008 at 9:06 PM

OldEnglish

Please refrain from talking about reality until after the election…;)

BL@KBIRD on October 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM

BL@KBIRD on October 13, 2008 at 11:58 PM

LOL. That’s what the missus often says – without the time limit. :)

OldEnglish on October 14, 2008 at 2:25 AM

As someone in the U.K who has lost a god-son in Iraq i am disappointed by these vicious comment’s.

This American led brillently conceived and executed plan for the Iraq war.

‘Treated like liberater’s’,'cake walk’,’slam dunk”will take 6 days,six weeks not six months.’

Bush goading ‘bring it on ‘,abu graib,blackwater, uses chemical weapons against civilians in fallugah.Rendition.
The U.S is arming para-militaries in Baghdad.

One million iraq’s dead,millions displaced,millions suffering from the effects of depleted uranium.

My god-son died in vain by standing shoulder to shoulder with Americans that don’t recognise or respect our losses.

Some seem unable to reflect the U.S role in this nightmare.
When an american soldier gets killed we report it ,he/she has a name a face and a family.Does the U.S?
Besides blood and treasure as an allie,we have shared intelligence,we have more arab speakers and informers.We co-operate with details of who is crossing our borders from air and sea.

It should be us walking away as an allie the sooner the better i think.

mags on October 14, 2008 at 9:42 AM

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