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New RNC ad: “Guilt by participation”

posted at 8:10 pm on October 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Politico, another attempt to jump-start the meme. They’ll push it out wide tomorrow morning. The brief clip of Ayers is new to me, the rest is old hat, although the tagline at the end is interesting in how it suggests The One’s motives in gladhanding Ayers had less to do with radical sympathies than with sheer mercenary ambition. Maybe that’s Maverick’s sop to toning down the rhetoric.

Exit question: On a scale of 1 to 10, how enraged will conservatives be if it turns out after the election that Wurtzel was right, that the media knows more than it’s saying about Obama’s relationship with Ayers but decided to let him lie to the public about it in the interest of seeing him win? 15? 23?


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Maybe that’s Maverick’s sop to toning down the rhetoric.

If that’s what it takes, I’m fine with it.

Honestly, the threads that connect them aren’t as important as putting all his associations out there and letting people come to their own conclusions.

Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM

1:20? This ain’t no tv spot

lorien1973 on October 12, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Haha…Grumpy Obama at the end.

Too much reading though. People who haven’t made up their minds yet are going to put in the effort to read that much.

Vigilante on October 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Exit question answer: ∞

Bob's Kid on October 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Better than the old Ayers adds, it explains more of who he is for those who don’t know much if anything about him

KBird on October 12, 2008 at 8:18 PM

On a scale of 1 to 10, how enraged will conservatives be if it turns out after the election that Wurtzel was right, that the media knows more than it’s saying about Obama’s relationship with Ayers but decided to let him lie to the public about it in the interest of seeing him win? 15? 23?

I’d continue to say that McCain didn’t lose because of this. McCain lost because he didn’t fight Obama hard enough. McCain left too much ammo on the ground.

lorien1973 on October 12, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Allah Pundit, you left out us libertarians.

HotAir.com is a conservative AND libertarian website.

Your question should have read:

“How enrages will conservatives and libertarians be if it turns out after the election…”

ericdondero on October 12, 2008 at 8:19 PM

ericdondero on October 12, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Allah probably should have said “America”

Cuz if there is stuff the media -is- hiding out of desire to get Obama elected; then this country would have lost.

lorien1973 on October 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM

He could no more throw him under the bus than he could his own Grandm…….oops. Nevermind.

oakpack on October 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Allah Pundit, you left out us libertarians.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.

Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM

If that’s what it takes, I’m fine with it.

Honestly, the threads that connect them aren’t as important as putting all his associations out there and letting people come to their own conclusions.

Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM

I totally agree, but it seems “we” are the only ones putting anything out, the MSM continues to stay very cool to any of this.

foxone on October 12, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Good ad. But when are they going to start focusing in on Raila Odinga.

Remember:

Bill Ayers – Responsible for the murders of 7 people

Raila Odinga (Obama’s cousin, friend and close political ally in Kenay) – Resonsible for the murders of over 3,000 people

ericdondero on October 12, 2008 at 8:22 PM

A comparable video on Wright would be good. Obama is an opportunist who hides his radical sentiments, but they are there for anyone that cares to look.

EMD on October 12, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Bill Ayers would be proud.

PORTLAND, Ore. – Authorities have arrested two men after a Molotov cocktail was thrown at a 4-foot by 8-foot campaign sign for Republican presidential candidate John McCain in a southeast Portland yard.

Karen Scrutton said she was asleep inside her home at 7956 S.E. 17th Ave. in the Sellwood neighborhood when she saw her sign go up in flames after 1 a.m.

“I screamed upstairs to my husband, ‘Jean! Jean!” she said.

A neighbor heard a crash and chased off one of the suspects. Jean Scrutton said his son-in-law found another suspect not far away.

Not long after, investigators picked up Leslie Brockette Leudtke and Kevin Carl Robinson, both 23. After interviewing them, the pair was charged with four counts each of manufacturing and possession of a destructive device. In addition, Leudtke was charged with a single count of reckless burning.

Witnesses said the suspects threw a Molotov cocktail at the sign and used another as a torch.
The Scruttons worried that their home could have caught on fire.

“Our whole house could have burnt down,” Karen Scrutton said while thanking her neighbor for intervening.

Despite the ordeal, she said they won’t take the sign down. It suffered only minor damage from the fire.

NeoKong on October 12, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Odinga being related to Obama is questionable and even if it wasn’t I dont see that it’s all that relevant. Odinga at best does show how naive Obama is regarding foreign policy and how dangerous that can be, even for a junior Senator.

aikidoka on October 12, 2008 at 8:26 PM

IF he loses I hope we, both Conservative, Libertarian, or PUMA/Blue Dog Democrat are mad enough to give him the gift of a Congress that will nuke his last two years in office. For those of us upset about the Country Club Blue Blood Establishment types in control of the GOP, I hope we are mad enough to take our party back in the name of the Base.

The election was not yesterday, or today, and is not tomorrow. Until the returns are in, the lawsuits are concluded and there is an absolute end; I AM NOT CONCEDING McCAIN HAS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!

freeus on October 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM

The association that would win the day is Fannie, Freddie , ACORN, afirmative action loans that were bundled, sold as sound investments and took the whole economy and the citizens retirement funds down the tubes. The citizernry is mad at D.C. and has a right to be.

The would be leader of the country had better have some answers and name the names, something McCain seems loath or too ignorant to do. This is wrongly being laid on Republicans and the leader of the party is silent? He had better get on it Wed. as it will be his last chance with a national audience. Call for investigations of Frank and Dood and for Reid and Pelosi to step down from leadership postions for playing politics at a time of great national financial crisis. The public is pissed and this could turn them around to the party that tried to put some oversight in place. To the Republicans who are not guilty but being tarred and feathered by the Dems and hung out to dry by their nomineee for POTUS.

dhunter on October 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Ayers and Odinga are Baracks’s leadership models.

econavenger on October 12, 2008 at 8:30 PM

It’s too late to bring in a new character, Americans aren’t quick enough to get the connection. I think McCain has to focus on the truth that Obama climbed to power over the backs of every criminal he came across- He’s got to tie him to ACORN- Americans don’t like cheaters. He’s got to explain who all those tax “credits” are going to benefit- Americans don’t respect people on welfare. He’s got to make America understand that the Deocratic party is at fault for the financial disaster we’re in- to give the Criminals the key to the jail is insanity. Those Dems will NEVER be prosecuted if Obama is elected.

anniekc on October 12, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Cut to clip of Obama talking about how Louis Farakhan is a mentor and hero to him with quotes from his book…cut to clip of Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama hugging and Wright giving award to Farakhan at his “church”….cut to clip of Farakhan and Wright talking about how evil America is on their trip to Libya to meet Qadaffi(when it was illegal for Americans to go to libya)…….cut to clip of Farakhan talking about how Barack Hussein Obama is the muslim Messiah…….cut to clip of Louis Farakhan explaining that the muslim messiah comes with allah on a space ship and KILLS ALL OF THE WHITE DEVILS ON THE PLANET.

Flood the networks with this ad and ONLY this ad until election day..

SaintOlaf on October 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

This is just more wasted time. The only people who care a lot about Ayers are probably already voting for McCain anyway. This ad is one minute and twenty seconds that McCain could have used to outline something about the economy, or about Obama’s economic plans. Fail.

Big S on October 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

All these videos are good but they aren’t getting out to the public via TV ads. All I see, and I see them saturating the networks and cable channels in prime time, are Obama ads, well done and of course with his top articulation. Is there no money to put these out or are the networks refusing them?

wepeople on October 12, 2008 at 8:34 PM

They will never be prosecuted if McCain is elected either.
It appears he doesn’t prosecute his Dem friends only throws Repubs under the bus in order to pander to the Dem party and media who gives him attention for doing so!
I hope he has the chance and guts to prove me wrong after all it is his DUTY to name names, hold them accountable, make them famous, fight, fight, fight!

Or were those just words? Country First? Or McCains friends first?

dhunter on October 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM

As long as we are questioning judgment, which in Obama’s case there seems to be no doubt. Obama is like some crack head that gets caught with the crack pipe but no drugs.

Then claims he should not be guilty of doing drugs because of being associated with drug paraphernalia.

It may be 9/10th’s of the law, but that 1/10th weighs a lot.

Kini on October 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM

McCain has picked up a point or two in the latest polls. Obama may have peaked too soon. McCain needs to come out hard against Obama’s idiotic plans to fix our economic woes by more gov’t borrowing and spending — the same kind of irresponsible behavior that got us into this mess in the first place. McCain needs to start drawing the big picture for the public — Ayers, ACORN, and all the rest of Obama’s troublesome alliances all have one thing in common: anti-American radicalism. All these bad actors have been trying for years to infiltrate and/or tear down our institutions so they can replace them with their own Socialistic/communistic form of gov’t and impose their version of “social justice” on the rest of us.

Americans have now seen just how well that type of “social justice” works. Government meddling in the mortgage markets to try and make sure that everybody (including millions of illegal aliens) received a mortgage — regardless of whether they could afford one or not — has brought our economy to the brink of ruin and caused millions of Americans to see the value of their savings and investments plummet. It’s time for McCain to connect the dots. If it makes people angry, great. Righteous anger can be a wonderful motivator.

AZCoyote on October 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Here’s the ad I would like to see:

A brief listing of Ayers and his wife’s crimes, and then the announcer says: But that is not why we should fear Obama’s association with Ayers, it is because of his socialist educational philosophy that undermines free market capitalism in America by indoctrinating our youth. And then list the salient points about their relationship to the Annenburg Project and the amount of money that was SQUANDERED on political activism, and not serving the children of Chicago.

I’d also like to see an ad detailing Obama’s granting of money to Rezko’s company to build low income housing as detailed by the Boston Globe a few years ago, which was merely a scam for Rezko and others to get rid of low income housing and acquire the land for more expensive condos.

Queen0fCups on October 12, 2008 at 8:41 PM

All these videos are good but they aren’t getting out to the public via TV ads. All I see, and I see them saturating the networks and cable channels in prime time, are Obama ads, well done and of course with his top articulation. Is there no money to put these out or are the networks refusing them?

Don’t be discouraged – I only see ads on the web when I choose to watch them. Who really watches TV anymore without using a DVR to skip through commercials? Seriously.

I honestly think the way campaigns should get bang for their buck is to buy billboards along crowded freeways. That’s the only place there is a captive audience any more.

Queen0fCups on October 12, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Today watching NFL, I saw AT LEAST 20 Obama Ads…and a total of ZERO – NADA – NONE for McCain…

deedtrader on October 12, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Another terrorist pal of O!:

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30. Mr. Odinga was a member of Parliament representing an area in western Kenya, heavily populated by the Luo tribe, and the birthplace of Barack Obama’s father.

Hyman goes into Obama’s coordinated support for Odinga:

Initially, Mr. Odinga was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 to campaign on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama were nearly inseparable throughout Mr. Obama’s six-day stay. The two traveled together throughout Kenya and Mr. Obama spoke on behalf of Mr. Odinga at numerous rallies. In contrast, Mr. Obama had only criticism for Kibaki. He lashed out against the Kenyan government shortly after meeting with the president on Aug. 25. “The [Kenyan] people have to suffer over corruption perpetrated by government officials,” Mr. Obama announced.

“Kenyans are now yearning for change,” he declared. The intent of Mr. Obama’s remarks and actions was transparent to Kenyans – he was firmly behind Mr. Odinga.

Mr. Odinga and Mr. Obama had met several times before the 2006 trip. Reports indicate Mr. Odinga visited Mr. Obama during trips to the U.S. in 2004, 2005 and 2006. Mr. Obama sent his foreign policy adviser Mark Lippert to Kenya in early 2006 to coordinate his summer visit. Mr. Obama’s August trip coincided with strategizing by Orange Democratic Movement leaders to defeat Mr. Kibaki in the upcoming elections. Mr. Odinga represented the ODM ticket in the presidential race.

here

mred on October 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM

At this point I don’t care about “ads”. I can not believe a person isn’t in one camp or the other. McCain has to get it through his head that from here on out, it’s motivating his people to get to the polls. If Obama wants to get people sick of him, fine.

Marcus on October 12, 2008 at 8:49 PM

This is just more wasted time. The only people who care a lot about Ayers are probably already voting for McCain anyway.

Big S on October 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

Yes, exactly.

I do understand that negative advertising can work. But negative ads must be paired with a positive message that people comprehend and relate to. And though the RNC paid for this ad, it merely reinforces McCain’s major theme: I’m not Barack Obama. This is a tacit admission that McCain has nothing important to say about the country’s future. That won’t cut it.

I’ll call it now: 54-46 Obama, and he takes more than 350 electoral votes. House Republicans are reduced to 180 seats, and Democrats pick up nine in the Senate.

paul006 on October 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Ayers must be getting some well deserved pressure from these ads. I don’t even know how this creep can show his face on the street.

Hening on October 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM

I liked the ad. “Country second” though? I would guess it’s further down his list than that.

capitalist piglet on October 12, 2008 at 8:58 PM

 
edit:
 
Barack Obama
 
Career First
 
Country Party Second
 
Country Third
 
Inconvenient Relationships Under the Bus …until elected.
 

ignatzk on October 12, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Today watching NFL, I saw AT LEAST 20 Obama Ads…and a total of ZERO – NADA – NONE for McCain…

deedtrader on October 12, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Seriously, I can’t remember the last time I saw a McCain ad on TV. I see a ton of Obama ads every day, though.

holygoat on October 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM

OT but still sucks. 1st graders are being bussed into SF to throw rose petals at gay weddings.

Some of the kids were even made to wear political buttons.

Guardian on October 12, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Ayers must be getting some well deserved pressure from these ads. I don’t even know how this creep can show his face on the street.

Hening on October 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Only in Chicago.

I wish he would take a stroll down my street.

Guardian on October 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I like it, but I think the Ayers angle is getting close to saturation at this point. He should be going after Dodd, Frank, and the rest of the do-nothing Congress.

Conservative anger at the press needs to be translated into something useful. Internet journalists should be going after the editors of the major papers the same way their papers go after our candidates.

WisCon on October 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Obama’s IQ is 124, see if you can beat it

Click “get results” at end rather than entering cell phone number. Anyone who does not get 140 should never comment on this web site again.

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM

Seriously, I can’t remember the last time I saw a McCain ad on TV. I see a ton of Obama ads every day, though.

holygoat on October 12, 2008 at 9:00 PM

It’s 20:1 Obama ads here. I’m in a red county, too.

lorien1973 on October 12, 2008 at 9:09 PM

I am extremely angry with the media over its political bias in favoring the Democrats. They spent more time and money in two weeks digging into Palin’s background than they did over two years with BO. Nothing about Ayer’s, ACORN, Odinga, ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, illigal contributions, or his Socialism.

BO has gotten a free ride and America will suffer regardless if he wins or loses. The Socialists have always been angry and resentful. Now the Right is justifiably angry over the possible stolen election due to extensive Democrat voter fraud and a main stream media that has abandoned any semblance of fairness.

Even if BO wins, his Presidency will be illigitimate because Americans will know that the election was stolen through voter fraud.

Ragnarok on October 12, 2008 at 9:15 PM

I’ll call it now: 54-46 Obama, and he takes more than 350 electoral votes. House Republicans are reduced to 180 seats, and Democrats pick up nine in the Senate.

paul006 on October 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Obama 51, McCain 47, Other 2, and Obama takes about 330 electoral votes. House Republicans are reduced to 190 seats, and Democrats pick up six in the Senate.

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Obama 51, McCain 47, Other 2, and Obama takes about 330 electoral votes. House Republicans are reduced to 190 seats, and Democrats pick up six in the Senate.

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Sounds about right to me.

Big S on October 12, 2008 at 9:18 PM

“The Exact Word”.

BallisticBob on October 12, 2008 at 9:23 PM

I’d continue to say that McCain didn’t lose because of this. McCain lost because he didn’t fight Obama hard enough. McCain left too much ammo on the ground. (lorien1973 on October 12, 2008 at 8:18 PM)

A comparable video on Wright would be good. (EMD on October 12, 2008 at 8:24 PM)

He had better get on it Wed. as it will be his last chance with a national audience. (dhunter on October 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM)

McCain needs to come out hard against Obama’s idiotic plans to fix our economic woes by more gov’t borrowing and spending …. McCain needs to start drawing the big picture for the public — Ayers, ACORN, and all the rest of Obama’s troublesome alliances all have one thing in common: anti-American radicalism. … It’s time for McCain to connect the dots. (AZCoyote on October 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM)

McCain has to get it through his head that from here on out, it’s motivating his people to get to the polls. (Marcus on October 12, 2008 at 8:49 PM)

McCain: Could have, should have, wouldn’t, didn’t, and, most likely, won’t. He’s too busy defending the One’s honor.

Blackacre on October 12, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Good, but it should be shorter, tighter, and kick more you know what.

indythinker on October 12, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Exit question: On a scale of 1 to 10, how enraged will conservatives be if it turns out after the election that Wurtzel was right, that the media knows more than it’s saying about Obama’s relationship with Ayers but decided to let him lie to the public about it in the interest of seeing him win? 15? 23?

Why would just conservatives be outraged? Every American should be enraged if the media is hiding things.

highhopes on October 12, 2008 at 9:26 PM

IF he loses I hope we, both Conservative, Libertarian, or PUMA/Blue Dog Democrat are mad enough to give him the gift of a Congress that will nuke his last two years in office. For those of us upset about the Country Club Blue Blood Establishment types in control of the GOP, I hope we are mad enough to take our party back in the name of the Base.

The election was not yesterday, or today, and is not tomorrow. Until the returns are in, the lawsuits are concluded and there is an absolute end; I AM NOT CONCEDING McCAIN HAS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!

freeus on October 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM

damn straight

funky chicken on October 12, 2008 at 9:35 PM

IMPEACH OBAMA~ it’s never too early before it’s too late!

Pre-emptive impeachment, now!

Why should MOVEON.ORG have all the fun!

profitsbeard on October 12, 2008 at 9:36 PM

On a scale of 1 to 10, how enraged will conservatives be if when it turns out after the election that Wurtzel was right, that the media knows more than it’s saying about Obama’s relationship with Ayers but decided to let him lie to the public about it in the interest of seeing him win? 15? 23?

Fixed.

Everyone who who isn’t 100% in the tank for Osama Obama probably has felt from his responses to each question about his history — including his birth — and his associations that one reason he is lying so blatantly is to hide the One Big Skeleton.

We don’t know what it is, but I’m certain many in the Messiah Media do.

And if it’s as bad as I suspect, he — and his suck-up enablers — should do time for it.

MrScribbler on October 12, 2008 at 9:39 PM

wasn’t Hannity going to have a Corsi interview with new stuff on Odinga tonight?

jp on October 12, 2008 at 9:39 PM

profitsbeard on October 12, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Yeah, we can call it MooveAlong.Org

Kini on October 12, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Asian Markets overall up

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:48 PM

The crazy thing about all of this is that Obama has SO MANY things to make you question his judgment/character/honesty (Ayers,Wright,Rezko,Kenya,clinging to religion and guns,Michelle not proud of our country, not putting his hand over his heart for the pledge,socialist party member,campaigning on foreign soil, ACORN, illegal contributions,…. and I know I’m forgetting some) that it’s overwhelming. It’s like Joe Biden saying so much crazy crap that you have trouble focusing on just one thing.
I still think one of the most effective ads would simply be a scrolling list of the numerous things about The One that make you go, “Hmmmm.”

Sugar Land on October 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Excuse my ignorance but what is PUMA?

texasgirl on October 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM

This is way better than most, but the key is still to connect
Obama to Ayers and ACORN at the same time. Like this.

Obama is clearly lying when he claims ignorance about Ayers’s terrorism, but even if you wanted to pretend otherwise, it is impossible that he was in the dark about Ayers’s revolutionary leftism: Ayers has never made a secret of it and can’t seem to help himself from mentioning it about every 30 seconds. Obama not only knew about Ayers’s views in this regard; he obviously subscribed to them: was a member of the Chicago New Party begun by the Democratic Socialists of America; he worked closely with Ayers on “education reform” for years, he approved of Ayers’s similarly fringe-Left views of the criminal justice system’s treatment of juvenile crime, and, we are learning; and he was tightly aligned with ACORN, which he and Ayers funded and whose practices fit comfortably with the Ayers view of “participatory democracy”).

I have no idea how you do that in 60 seconds :)

Buy Danish on October 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM

This is just more wasted time. The only people who care a lot about Ayers are probably already voting for McCain anyway. This ad is one minute and twenty seconds that McCain could have used to outline something about the economy, or about Obama’s economic plans. Fail.

Big S on October 12, 2008 at 8:33 PM

Acutally you are wrong, the only people who matter right now are so called undecided or independents. This kind of stuff is dead on. These people apparently vote on stuff like they like the way somebody looks or he seems like nice guy etc.
If policy mattered to these people they would have decided already. These two canadates are from two different ends of the spectrum, about as far as you can get.

kangjie on October 12, 2008 at 9:55 PM

I think the best way to bring this issue up in the debate, is for McCain to ask Nobama why he has not forcefully called on Ayers to apologize to the nation for his past crimes.

mtbunji on October 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Imagine how the media would be going bonkers if someone found out McCain had launched his political career out of Timothy McVeigh’s living room.
I remember how the media and the Clinton government, back then, were doing a lot of guilt by association. I remember some spokesman reading a letter Tim McVeigh wrote to somebody about something, and when he finished reading the letter, he said “..and on the envelope he placed a sticker “I Am the NRA.”
Anybody anywhere that had been in a militia were all branded radicals. The libs love guilt by association.
A good commercial would be images of Timothy McVeigh and Ayers together. They both blew up government buildings. One got off on a technicality.

JellyToast on October 12, 2008 at 10:11 PM

If this doesn’t convince people, then God help us all.

faraway on October 12, 2008 at 10:19 PM

IF Wurtzel was right? IF the media knew more than they were telling? Are you serious?

rrpjr on October 12, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Good ad but they also need to run one compairing Obama useing the words Hoodwinked & Bambozzel with a side by side of Malcom X saying the same thing and asking the ? of Obama do you agree with Malcom X on other things Sentor Obama?

thmcbb on October 12, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Obama led Project Vote in the 90’s. PV, ACORN & The New Party all shared the same mailing address: 88 3rd St. in NY. It is sickening that the Times sits on this, and people still quote them for anything.

rhodeymark on October 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM

This should be looped on all the alphabet channels. C’mon John!

Mojave Mark on October 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Obama’s IQ is 124, see if you can beat it

Click “get results” at end rather than entering cell phone number. Anyone who does not get 140 should never comment on this web site again.

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM

The upper range of normal is 110, so Obama is barely above average.

I am not affected by your cutoff, and beat Obama easily but disagree with the concept. Highly intelligent people say stupid things, too. And average people make significant contributions in many fields.

Besides, we would not have any trolls at all if we enforced such a rule!

Right_of_Attila on October 12, 2008 at 10:33 PM

The one line that isn’t being drawn in any of these ads is key. If he has this many radicals in his network, who do voters think he is going to appoint? Who will make up his cabinet? Who will be appointed to federal and supreme benches? THAT is what needs to be at the end of these ads.

Again, the only difference between Bill Ayers and Tim McVeigh is the body count.

TugboatPhil on October 12, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Obama led Project Vote in the 90’s. PV, ACORN & The New Party all shared the same mailing address: 88 3rd St. in NY. It is sickening that the Times sits on this, and people still quote them for anything.

rhodeymark on October 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Hmmmmm. That is very interesting, indeed. Off to see where you got it :)

Buy Danish on October 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM

I like his commercials…but as Barry himself asked…”Will he say it to my face?” During the last debate, McCain may want to consider that question as a challenge…and give some “Straight Talk”…and if he can’t, then this is just a meaningless political ad.

AUINSC on October 12, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Excuse my ignorance but what is PUMA?

texasgirl on October 12, 2008 at 9:53 PM

It stands for Party Unity My A**. I think a lot of Hillary supporters started it, after Obama won the Democratic nomination and Hillary said everyone should unite behind him, or something like that.

Glynn on October 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

If only we had…

A media that didn’t lie to us,

A candidate that was willing to bleed for us,

An opposition candidate that wasn’t a joke,

An opposition party that cared even slightly about the Americans that don’t vote for them,

An electorate that understood enough about basic economics to know when they’re being lied to,

A civilian leadership that had half the courage of our military men and women,

A popular culture that wasn’t controlled by people that hate their country,

A collective sense of history that went farther back than six weeks,

And someone to seriously enforce our election laws…

… we’d be in pretty good shape.

Doctor Zero on October 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM

In keeping with the current trend of unhinged liberals:

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That ad is RACIST!!!

Why? I don’t have to explain why, if I scream that it’s RACIST loudly enough then it must be true!

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Expect that sort of response from a liberal near you.
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Carl on October 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM

If only we had…

A media that didn’t lie to us,

A candidate that was willing to bleed for us,

John McCain has bled more for you than you ever will for him.

Get up off your ass and fight for him, if you are such a big, brave man.

funky chicken on October 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM

John McCain has bled more for you than you ever will for him.

I sure hope so. ‘Cause if not, that would be extraordinarily creepy.

In reality, John fought for his country. Not his party, not his ideology, not his political future. And for that he deserves all the respect as a warrior he has earned.

Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Gotta love the Paultards calling the election for Obama right now. Just like RS McCain and David Freddoso.

Guys? Your loser crank couldn’t even pull 10% in the GOP primaries.

funky chicken on October 12, 2008 at 10:57 PM

MB4 on October 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM

Anyone who posts links that resize your browser shouldn’t comment either.

spmat on October 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Looks like the battle for Middle Earth has just begun. Gird your loins, friends…I hear the Orcs are a tough bunch.

ManlyRash on October 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Texas girl, PUMA=Party Unity My Ass from the Hillary voters that firmly believe, and that I have not doubt is true, that Obama stole the election from Her Majesty. PUMAS are working themselves silly trying to help us drag Yosemite Sam over the finish line. We MUST be very nice. They are doing work normal Conservatives and LIBERTARIANS would do if we were in control of the GOP. It is called fighting the opponent.

Funky Chicken, it never occurred to me that the Paultards could be behind some of this mess. They could be those pesky little negative trolls running from site to site saying it is over. Very observant! Very possible!

wasn’t Hannity going to have a Corsi interview with new stuff on Odinga tonight?

jp on October 12, 2008 at 9:39 PM

I thought something big was suppose to be dropped tonight. It was partially a rerun and the rest was Beckell telling us Ayers and negative ad do not work. Which means in code speak means, Ayers is gaining traction and the negative ads are contributing to the shifting in the polls. Maybe Hannity will reveal what happened on Monday? Weird.

freeus on October 12, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Next debate, McCain needs to tell the country that with friends like Obama has, he couldn’t even get an entry level security clearance.

RushBaby on October 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM

He noted gleefully.

Connie on October 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Just a random (very) thought.

Obama says that running this juggernaut campaign of his (smelly plane and all) is a testament to his executive experience. Of course, that’s debatable because he just shows up where he’s told. But for the sake of this thought, let’s assume it to be so.

Aren’t FEC figures available for what Obama has flushed down the toilet in campaign expenses during the primaries and the general election. I remember laughing to myself during the PA, WV, and Kentucky primaries when I heard reports of how much money he poured into those states–at least for a time–only to get beat soundly in PA and creamed in the other two.

Given Obama’s spending on his campaign and looking at what a flop he was blowing through $160 million with Ayers and some tag-along board members, is Obama really someone Americans want controlling tax dollars?

BuckeyeSam on October 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Next debate, McCain needs to tell the country that with friends like Obama has, he couldn’t even get an entry level security clearance.

RushBaby on October 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Somebody made this point on a cable news program I saw this weekend. Sorry, can’t remember who it was.

BuckeyeSam on October 12, 2008 at 11:29 PM

This is only partly related to this thread, so please excuse me if I seem off topic, but I wanted to pass along a posting I place on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch website, today, after they issued their endorsement of Barack Obama. I’ve had it with this “newspaper.” We need to do what we can to smack these liberal propaganda machines upside the head;

“I believe it is safe to say that the “elephant (or more likely “donkey”) in the room, is that this space is more populated with those in agreement with the editorial than those who disagree with it, not because there ARE more people who agree with it, but because this editorial, for the most part is preaching to its target audience choir.

Much of the derision aimed at the “Post-Disgrace” is from conservatives who do not feel that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch is not a newspaper for the St. Louis region. It is a newspaper for the St. Louis region’s liberal Democrats. That would be fine if the paper was labeled the St. Louis Democrat, but it is not. It is simply our only major newspaper.

As a conservative, I can’t even have a discussion with most of my like-minded friends about something in the Post, because most of them stopped reading it, long ago. The problem isn’t necessarily that they disagree with the news that is IN the paper, it is that they don’t see the news IN the paper that they have to get elsewhere. It is astounding that a newspaper that carries the proclaimed “Platform” that it will “never belong to any party” ALWAYS belongs to one party. Today’s edition makes this clear. “Barack Obama for president,” is the headline of the editorial. Is there ANYBODY in St. Louis that is surprised? Most of us would have place bets on you endorsing the Democratic nominee four years ago! Basically, you have spent four years, writing this editorial! The Matson cartoon adds to the expected liberal position of the Post. The selection of “Your Views” letters to the editor, reinforces the editorial

The headlines of the articles within the Post come as further reinforcements to the editorial. Republicans are often accused of drumming up votes by instilling “fear” in the populace. Today’s headline below the fold is “FEAR. Worrying about the economy is MAKING THINGS WORSE.” Other headlines include;

“Tim Robbins gets star on Walk of Fame.”

“Did Palin promote religion on state’s dime?”

“Obama gives rival nod, lets optimism show.”

“McCain halts attacks, focuses on policy issues.”

“Todd Palin applied pressure, report says.”

“U.S. influence is declining in Latin America.”

“Worrying about economy makes things worse.”

“Democrats may call back Congress after election.”
This breathless Obama ad, disguised as a story for this headline is that “After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless benefits, money for food stamps and perhaps a tax rebate, officials said Saturday. The bill’s cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said.”

Of course, the issue isn’t simply what the Post DOES say. It is also what it DOESN’T say. In an article last week, the Post did a hit piece on Kit Bond, noting that he ranked 8th in receiving donations from Fannie and Freddie. While it did note that Senator Dodd was #1, it failed to mention that #2 was Barack Obama.

A conservative reader knows that the Post-Dispatch is not going to cover many of the issues about Barack Obama that are of concern to them. We know that you will fully cover his associations with William Ayers, or his radical views on partial birth abortion, or a “post-birth fetus.” We know that you will not allow his Marxist, socialist past to be fully explored, but that’s O.K. We have other places to get that information now.

Meanwhile, your readership keeps going down.”

Star20 on October 12, 2008 at 11:38 PM

rhodeymark on October 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Okay, I see originated with ACE.

I would just add this which I found elsewhere:

Little Rock New Party
http://www.newparty.org/
Suite 313
88 Third Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11217
Phone: 800-200-1294
Email: inforequest@newparty.org

Same phone # as at ACE’s, but different email address (email: newparty@igc.org) and this one is called the “Little Rock New Party”.

So, ACORN was started in Arkansas, and they share an address with The “Little Rock New Party”…

ACORN® National
88 3rd Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11217
1-877-55ACORN – 718-246-7900
fax 718-246-7939
email: natexdirect@acorn.org

Fittingly,
Ben & Jerrys
gave $15,000 to Project Vote at the same addresss.

Buy Danish on October 12, 2008 at 11:39 PM

715

Defector01 on October 12, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Regarding email address – newparty@IGC.org.

IGC.ORG

The tentacles are everywhere. Who needs a military when you’ve got all these boots on the ground? Positively creepy – It’s like the Invasion of the Body Mind Snatchers.

Buy Danish on October 12, 2008 at 11:47 PM

1:20? This ain’t no tv spot

Maybe they’re leaving room for commercials within the commercial.

HotWeaver on October 13, 2008 at 12:05 AM

What’s with Red Eye? It’s like watching Bill Maher. They’re trying to compare Murtaugh with Ayers now?

capitalist piglet on October 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM

I apologize in advance for the long post, but I’m afraid I have to preface this with some bona fides, as it has become too common on this site to respond with “TROLL! TROLL!” any time anyone says what I’m about to say. I am a long-time commenter at LGF, especially about Islamic issues, under pretty much my same user name, except when I signed up there, I lived in Istanbul, not Amman. I have commented here in the past, and on Michelle’s and Ace’s site as well.

I am one of the few conservative academics I know of, and am the most vocal as well. In fact, I was interviewed for an Amman newspaper about the election, my name having been given to them by my colleagues at the university here as the only American conservative in the country. But there are a good many undecideds in academia, most of whom were Hillary supporters, and many of whom, both in the U.S. and abroad, ask me for reasons to vote for McCain. My fiancee is an Albanian Moslem, who herself comes from an academic family. Most Albanians love the Clintons. Her family has asked me on numerous occasions why I am voting McCain.

In the past, I have directed them to this site and to Michelle Malkin’s and to LGF, but too often they come back with comments such as, “Even Republicans don’t like McCain,” or “Even your own people think McCain is a coward.” Comments like the ones above–the undecideds are either too stupid or too lazy to understand an ad that requires reading, or are too stupid to vote if they don’t already know who they are voting for, are also, to put it mildly, unhelpful.

Look, I was a Fred Thompson supporter, and I understand that in a perfect world, we would be fielding a dream team of Thompson/Romney/Huckeabee/Guiliani/Palin/Jindal, tag-team style, against Obama/Biden. But the world is as it is–McCain is our candidate, and there is a huge pool of undecided Hillary voters out there that we can reel in, if we could simply accept that fact–and I’m not talking about blind devotion to the guy–but accept the fact that McCain is the Republican candidate, and that to prevent Obama we have to support our ticket. We simply can’t afford to have those PUMAs come here, hear that we despise our own candidate because we believe that if he’d only listen to Hot Air commenters, he’d be pushing 90% in the polls, and his failure to do so is a failure of courage and/or honor, and leave with that impression in their heads.

I can’t in good conscience send people to this site anymore, or to Michelle Malkin’s. I send them to Ace instead. Sending them here has done more harm than good, and has, trust me, turned genuine undecideds–people who can read, by the way–into Obama supporters.

mikeinamman on October 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM

into Obama supporters.

mikeinamman on October 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM

Any moron who becomes an Oslime-a supporter after reading HA, was simply a closet liberal waiting for any BS excuse to come out of the closet.

csdeven on October 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM

John McCain has bled more for you than you ever will for him.

Get up off your ass and fight for him, if you are such a big, brave man.

funky chicken on October 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM

I meant “bleed” in a political sense, probably should have said “bleed for us now like he bled for us in Vietnam.” I have nothing but respect for McCain’s personal courage. That’s what makes this sad little whimper of a campaign so hard to understand. I don’t think you can say he’s “afraid” of running a tough campaign, or suffering media slings and arrows… so how do you explain what he’s doing? Did his sense of Senate collegiality prevent him from talking tough against Obama and Biden, until (maybe) this late hour? Does he basically agree with them on everything except foreign policy, so he only came ready to fight over Iraq, and that just isn’t a fight anyone wanted to have? Did he think his previous good relations with the boys in the press would earn him some fair treatment – has he been flipping on the news every day, waiting for critical analysis of Biden’s unbelievably stupid debate performance, or big MSM exposes of ACORN, Bill Ayers, and Tony Rezko? Was he unwilling to do anything that would cost him those long-cultivated media friendships, and is he surprised by how much they’ve been willing to turn on him to get Obama into office?

Hurling insults at each other and backbiting isn’t going to get us anywhere, in the little time we have left. It has an unpleasant sinking-ship quality about it.

As for “fighting for McCain,” I was an early and frequent defender of his around these parts, after he won the nomination. I live in an area that will vote overwhelmingly for McCain, in a state he looked like he would carry, until this week. I’ll certainly vote for him myself. What, exactly, am I supposed to do, to fight for him and prove my bravery to you, mighty Achilles? Lead a strike team against an ACORN office? Try to goad Ayers into a cage match? (I’d do the latter if I could, believe me. Heck, I’d get rich selling the pay-per-view rights…)

No, we’re long past the point where it does any good to demand people fight for McCain. He should have been fighting for us, starting a long time ago. It’s called leadership. He’s got a few weeks left to show some. If he doesn’t, we all get to start bleeding, in a variety of unpleasant ways.

Doctor Zero on October 13, 2008 at 1:16 AM

Here’s something that offers what you’d like to hear McCain say, but know he won’t. It’s an article on Monday’s Townhall.com by Burt Prelutsky.

Treat yourself. You deserve it.

http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage.aspx?g=2539043f-7046-44c6-bc0a-00042839cbb7&t=c

BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2008 at 1:35 AM

turned genuine undecideds–people who can read, by the way–into Obama supporters.

mikeinamman on October 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM

(Political) literacy is indignant.

Entelechy on October 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM

Meanwhile, your readership keeps going down.”

Star20 on October 12, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Tomorrow, I’m calling to cancel my subscription to The Cincinnati Enquirer. In mid-March, right when Jeremiah hit the fan, it ran a great article about character and its importance in evaluating candidates. I was really impressed.

But it’s been downhill ever since. It’s kind of a second-rate paper to begin with, but it’s op-ed pages have become tiresome. Most of its news comes from AP. It collaborated (using that word in an intentionally pejorative sense) with other papers in other to run reviews of the candidates ads, and the verdicts are always the same: McCain lies, Obama stretches the truth a little. One screwball said the sex ed ad was a lie. I’ve read the legislation; McCain was right. Anyway, they like picking up NYT columnists (Gail Collins hails from Cincinnati, so she usually gets picked up) and other liberal columnists for balance. And the conservatives that they get are Kathleen Parker and David Brooks. And I’ve notice where they make the HLs more critical of the conservative that may be featured.

I’ve had. Local news during the week and Walter Williams on Sundays aren’t enough. It’s my consumer vote.

BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM

It is dumb.

People are worried about many things, this just is not one of them.

I’ve grown to like McCain more and more as time goes by this election season, but I fear he will be steamrollered by the economy.

Where are the Republican ads tying Obama to Pelosi, Reid, Congress and Fannie & Freddie? Those should play nonstop in the swing states.

Sheerq on October 13, 2008 at 2:34 AM

OBAMA’S EXTREMISM IS NOT “DUMB.”

Two very well articulated explanations as to just WHY NOT:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_three_strikes_1.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/why_obamas_socialism_matters_1.html

Lockstein13 on October 13, 2008 at 4:49 AM

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